Israeli jets fire over German navy ship off Lebanon Wednesday October 25, 06:21 PM
BERLIN (Reuters) - Two Israeli warplanes have fired over a German naval vessel patrolling off the Lebanese coast, the Defence Ministry in Berlin said on Wednesday.
The daily Der Tagesspiegel quoted a German junior defence minister as telling a parliamentary committee that two Israeli F-16 fighters had flown low over the ship, firing twice.
The jets also activated infra-red countermeasures to ward off any rocket attack, the paper quoted him as saying, in an advance release from Thursday's edition.
The minister did not say when the incident happened or what had caused it.
"I can confirm that there was an incident," a ministry spokesman said on Wednesday. He declined to give further details as an investigation was under way.
An Israeli military spokeswoman said she was checking the report.
Germany assumed command of a United Nations naval force off Lebanon 10 days ago, and has sent eight ships and 1,000 service personnel to join the international peace operation in the region.
The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
Full Version: Israeli Jets Fire Over German Navy Ship Off Lebanon
Can y'all see any reason why Israel should do this or why they should not know that this ship was part of the peacekeeping force?
Germany assumed command of a United Nations naval force off Lebanon 10 days ago, and has sent eight ships and 1,000 service personnel to join the international peace operation in the region.
The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
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I don't believe THIS a minute!
The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
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I don't believe THIS a minute!
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Germany assumed command of a United Nations naval force off Lebanon 10 days ago, and has sent eight ships and 1,000 service personnel to join the international peace operation in the region.
The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.
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I don't believe THIS a minute!
Me neither...
the following headline ran *yesterday*, 10/24/06, on the Drudge Report:
"GERMANY'S MILTARY TO TAKE ON GLOBAL ROLE"
the artice linked, from the FT (Financial Tmes) reads, as follows:
Germany in radical shake-up of military
By Hugh Williamson in Berlin
Published: October 24 2006 22:17 | Last updated: October 24 2006 22:17
Germany will on Wednesday adopt the most radical restructuring of its military since 1945, turning the Bundeswehr into an international intervention force, according to an internal cabinet strategy paper obtained by the Financial Times.
The paper, which will be endorsed at a special cabinet meeting in the defence ministry, is the product of a review – the first of its kind since 1994 – begun by Angela Merkel, chancellor, after she won office last November. It will see Germany’s military officially abandon its primary postwar task of defending the country’s borders in favour of a more robust role for German troops on international missions.
The military’s most sensitive international deployment since the second world war came this month when the German navy took control of patrolling Lebanese waters to stop weapons smugglers. The military has taken part in other international missions in Afghanistan and Kosovo, for example, but has largely avoided direct involvement in war zones.
The 133-page strategy paper argues that the capacity of the Bundeswehr must be expanded to allow for the deployment of a total of 14,000 troops to five international missions simultaneously.
This will be achieved by drawing troops previously deployed on national defence into units involved in staffing or supporting overseas missions.
The Bundeswehr has about 250,000 military personnel, including about 50,000 conscripts. About 9,000 troops are currently overseas in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Congo and elsewhere.
The paper confirms conscription will be retained.
Henning Riecke, European security specialist at Berlin’s DGAP foreign policy institute, said the paper will “give German policymakers a way of handing increasing international pressure to join overseas missions”.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2006
"GERMANY'S MILTARY TO TAKE ON GLOBAL ROLE"
the artice linked, from the FT (Financial Tmes) reads, as follows:
Germany in radical shake-up of military
By Hugh Williamson in Berlin
Published: October 24 2006 22:17 | Last updated: October 24 2006 22:17
Germany will on Wednesday adopt the most radical restructuring of its military since 1945, turning the Bundeswehr into an international intervention force, according to an internal cabinet strategy paper obtained by the Financial Times.
The paper, which will be endorsed at a special cabinet meeting in the defence ministry, is the product of a review – the first of its kind since 1994 – begun by Angela Merkel, chancellor, after she won office last November. It will see Germany’s military officially abandon its primary postwar task of defending the country’s borders in favour of a more robust role for German troops on international missions.
The military’s most sensitive international deployment since the second world war came this month when the German navy took control of patrolling Lebanese waters to stop weapons smugglers. The military has taken part in other international missions in Afghanistan and Kosovo, for example, but has largely avoided direct involvement in war zones.
The 133-page strategy paper argues that the capacity of the Bundeswehr must be expanded to allow for the deployment of a total of 14,000 troops to five international missions simultaneously.
This will be achieved by drawing troops previously deployed on national defence into units involved in staffing or supporting overseas missions.
The Bundeswehr has about 250,000 military personnel, including about 50,000 conscripts. About 9,000 troops are currently overseas in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Congo and elsewhere.
The paper confirms conscription will be retained.
Henning Riecke, European security specialist at Berlin’s DGAP foreign policy institute, said the paper will “give German policymakers a way of handing increasing international pressure to join overseas missions”.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2006
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/25/0...3.vjnw06sz.html
more information. more sources:
Israeli warplanes in 'incident' with German ship off Lebanon: military
Oct 25 3:00 PM US/Eastern
Two Israeli warplanes were involved in an armed incident with a German ship patrolling Lebanon's waters as part of the UN force in the Arab country, the German military told AFP.
A spokesman for the command of the German mission in Lebanon said it was investigating the incident which took place on Monday.
According to Thursday's edition of the Tagesspiegel newspaper, two Israeli F-16 warplanes fired shots as well as anti-missile defence flares while flying low over the German vessel.
The newspaper said the incident had been reported to parliament on Wednesday by a state secretary in the defence ministry, Christian Schmidt.
In Israel, Defence Minister Amir Peretz denied his country's planes had opened fire near a German ship, in a telephone call with German counterpart Franz Josep Jung.
"No Israeli plane opened fire at a German ship and Israel has no intention of attacking the German forces," Peretz said, according to his spokesman.
The defence minister also proposed closer cooperation between the Israeli military and the German naval force to Jung, whom he is due to meet in Israel next week.
France and the United Nations this week warned Israel that it was endangering the multinational peace mission in Lebanon by sending its fighter planes into Lebanese airspace.
Police in Lebanon have claimed that there were more Israeli flights over their country on Monday than on any other day since the end of the Jewish state's 34-day war with Hezbollah.
Peretz said at the weekend that the flights through Lebanese airspace would continue because of alleged arms smuggling to Hezbollah since the end of the war on August 14.
Germany is heading the naval component of the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon but has refused to contribute ground troops in a bid to avoid clashes with Israeli forces because of lingering sensitivities over the Holocaust.
more information. more sources:
Israeli warplanes in 'incident' with German ship off Lebanon: military
Oct 25 3:00 PM US/Eastern
Two Israeli warplanes were involved in an armed incident with a German ship patrolling Lebanon's waters as part of the UN force in the Arab country, the German military told AFP.
A spokesman for the command of the German mission in Lebanon said it was investigating the incident which took place on Monday.
According to Thursday's edition of the Tagesspiegel newspaper, two Israeli F-16 warplanes fired shots as well as anti-missile defence flares while flying low over the German vessel.
The newspaper said the incident had been reported to parliament on Wednesday by a state secretary in the defence ministry, Christian Schmidt.
In Israel, Defence Minister Amir Peretz denied his country's planes had opened fire near a German ship, in a telephone call with German counterpart Franz Josep Jung.
"No Israeli plane opened fire at a German ship and Israel has no intention of attacking the German forces," Peretz said, according to his spokesman.
The defence minister also proposed closer cooperation between the Israeli military and the German naval force to Jung, whom he is due to meet in Israel next week.
France and the United Nations this week warned Israel that it was endangering the multinational peace mission in Lebanon by sending its fighter planes into Lebanese airspace.
Police in Lebanon have claimed that there were more Israeli flights over their country on Monday than on any other day since the end of the Jewish state's 34-day war with Hezbollah.
Peretz said at the weekend that the flights through Lebanese airspace would continue because of alleged arms smuggling to Hezbollah since the end of the war on August 14.
Germany is heading the naval component of the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon but has refused to contribute ground troops in a bid to avoid clashes with Israeli forces because of lingering sensitivities over the Holocaust.
more:
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....=rss&rpc=22
remember?
USS LIBERTY incident. 1967. google it.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....=rss&rpc=22
remember?
USS LIBERTY incident. 1967. google it.
I don't understand Israeli agenda in doing this. It looks like they just need another war. All i say his they just being so stupid in doing this.
And for USS Liberty:-
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_%28AGTR-5%29
I wonder why they doing this stuff.
And for USS Liberty:-
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_%28AGTR-5%29
I wonder why they doing this stuff.
Whiteknight........ 
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.
By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
Appalling dismay... 
Now iam so confused. Did they or did they not fire. I hope they did not. I don't want to see a war from European union.
Miki
. I hate wars. Ah well. Humans are so greed for power and revenge that is what they want. Oh i wish father comes soon. Iam seeing violence everywhere
Miki
. I hate wars. Ah well. Humans are so greed for power and revenge that is what they want. Oh i wish father comes soon. Iam seeing violence everywhere
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 26 2006, 06:54 AM) [snapback]89388[/snapback]
Whiteknight........
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
Miki... this is NUTS.
Here is the link to the Gestapo boots thread...
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...ic=8572&hl=
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 26 2006, 05:54 AM) [snapback]89388[/snapback]
Whiteknight........
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
LOVE THE SONG!!!
SOOO TRUE!
Another thing (using French, the "Language that reveals"):
The Nazis were marching the GOOSE STEP.
"GOOSE STEP" is in French "PAS DE L'OIE"
"PAS DE L'OIE" rings like
"P A S D E L O I" (NO LAW!!!!)
Has the forces against Israel confiscated any Israeli warplanes? Do the enemies have in their arsenal any F-16 fighter jets that they have painted to look like Israeli war jets? Does the Israeli air commanders have accounts from every jet that flew in that area that day?
The point is, I do not believe the jets were Israeli.
The point is, I do not believe the jets were Israeli.
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 26 2006, 06:54 AM) [snapback]89388[/snapback]
Whiteknight........
Reread what was just posted and then think for a second....
Who tried to exterminate the Jews in WW II? And who is supposedly protecting them?
Maybe these are the boots in my vision!? A song just came to mind.By Nancy Sinatra:
These Boots Were Made For Walkin
You keep saying you've got something for me.
something you call love, but confess.
You've been messin' where you shouldn't have been a messin'
and now someone else is gettin' all your best.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you´ll never get burnt.
Ha!
I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.
Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
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This was the vision: Shadows: I saw someone drop an empty coffee cup to the floor and crush it with resolve with a booted foot. Gestapo boots. I couldn't see above but could clearly see this leg.
I was in CVS buying a couple of items. Suddenly, as I was leaving the store- I realized that this song was playing. The Holy Spirit "made" me notice... another confirmation. This just keeps going and going.
Yes that is very odd because today at the Hospital with my Grandmother I was visiting a friend. I was telling her about the vision I had about the boots! When all of a sudden my 4 year old daugther started singing this song. My husband looked at me and said wow listen that is kind of creepy! I said yes some others were talking about this song on the forum.
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Are you SERIOUS Valerie? Oh my. CREEPY is right. Sounds like your little one might be a prophet! 
This shall come to pass. I don't know what it will look like- but the Lord is raising a HUGE red flag of warning.
This shall come to pass. I don't know what it will look like- but the Lord is raising a HUGE red flag of warning.
Ive just read everyones replies and all I can say is WOW.........
Was it the Israelies giving the Germans a little tap on the shoulder or was it the Germans telling lies to try and ignite conflict??
Was it the Israelies giving the Germans a little tap on the shoulder or was it the Germans telling lies to try and ignite conflict??
One thing i cant understand. What is the song about. Hmm.
Hmmm Hmmmm umpm rubatuptup . . . that one?
I would not go so far as blaming the Germans, though I know what you mean by the statement; but, still it brings in a Blame on a Confederacy. The Confederacy of Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Russia; just to name one. The main Confederacy is Israel and its protectorates; the United States being the chief protectorate and supplier. It seems that the United States has done some boomerang diplomacy. Just one side of the circle has different wind currents. Or, you could say that the winds of degradation have blown from here to their shores and they are sending it back.
We will just have to wait and see if any of this is going to have any effect on us. Be like the bible says, we're all going to wonder 'What is going to happen next?'
I would not go so far as blaming the Germans, though I know what you mean by the statement; but, still it brings in a Blame on a Confederacy. The Confederacy of Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Russia; just to name one. The main Confederacy is Israel and its protectorates; the United States being the chief protectorate and supplier. It seems that the United States has done some boomerang diplomacy. Just one side of the circle has different wind currents. Or, you could say that the winds of degradation have blown from here to their shores and they are sending it back.
We will just have to wait and see if any of this is going to have any effect on us. Be like the bible says, we're all going to wonder 'What is going to happen next?'
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2218466,00.html
Germany's defense ministry confirmed on Sunday there had been another incident between Israeli jets and the German navy patrolling Lebanon's coast. Defense Minister Jung plans to visit the Middle East this week.
The incident occurred on Thursday night involving a helicopter belonging to the German navy and Israeli F16 bombers. According to a report in the Bild am Sonntag newspaper, several Israeli jets had forced the German helicopter to give way.
Germany's defense ministry confirmed on Sunday there had been another incident between Israeli jets and the German navy patrolling Lebanon's coast. Defense Minister Jung plans to visit the Middle East this week.
The incident occurred on Thursday night involving a helicopter belonging to the German navy and Israeli F16 bombers. According to a report in the Bild am Sonntag newspaper, several Israeli jets had forced the German helicopter to give way.
Did Israel get tired of swooping down on Germans and have switched to harrassing the French?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061108/wl_mi...on_061108232346
French UN troops 'seconds' away from firing at Israeli aircraft over Lebanon
PARIS (AFP) - French
United Nations troops were "two seconds" away recently from firing at Israeli aircraft diving towards their position in southern Lebanon, Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said in parliament.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061108/wl_mi...on_061108232346
French UN troops 'seconds' away from firing at Israeli aircraft over Lebanon
PARIS (AFP) - French
United Nations troops were "two seconds" away recently from firing at Israeli aircraft diving towards their position in southern Lebanon, Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said in parliament.
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