Its just been flashed on TV over here...any news????

Thank you praying... I am sure there will be News on this.

I hope its just an accident and not deliberate, I feel sick and pray for the poor souls who have lost their lives in this accident.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash.ap/index.html


October 11th....September 11th....hummm

Blimey.....wonder if the actual date has any significance with the Muslim calender?? I hope not and we are clutching at straws here....

per CNN : FIGHTER AIRCRAFT ARE BEING PUT INTO THE AIR OVER SEVERAL US CITIES

Well, they have just put out a statement saying that theres no indication of it being a terrorist activity??? Putting military aircraft in such a position tells me something completely different

Ive got to go and wont be coming online until tomorrow morning, God Bless you all and hope when I wake up in the morning that it will just be a simple accident and nothing else.

I love you all.

Your sister in Christ

Sarah xxxxxxx

They have posted an article on New York times apparentally it was a small aircraft or helicopter. It hit the 40th floor of a large condominium complex. There have not been a lot of injuries reported from the crash.

New York times link:
http://www.nytimes.com/?excamp=OVGNcurrentnews

The prophesy said by prophet Yaweh in that UFO video is more important than you know.
It happened a little early to NYC.

What UFO video???

Plane was flying too low...800 feet...and made a radical turn right into the building...Thinking back didn't the terrorists go to flight schools to learn how to fly small planes before 9/11? And...then I just read that these small planes are not being kept in contact with Air Traffic Controlers....makes you wonder why?

Here is the article I just read.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15223650/

prophet Yaweh's UFO video:

http://www.beholdhecomes.net/ufo.html

Compliment go out to Jack

Turns out it was a disgruntled NY Yankee pitcher.

interesting..

per cnn

Pitcher believed dead; passport found in street, sources tell CNN


The passport of Mohammad Atta, one of the hijackers who was on one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center, was also found in the street, undamaged....

and that is not the only similarity...
NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) said it had put fighter aircraft into the air over numerous U.S. cities, though they said they had no reason to believe the event in New York was anything more than an accident, sources told CNN's Barbara Starr. NORAD did the same thing after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.




the plane banked to the right before it hit the building...
I understand that at least of the planes on 9/11 had to do a hard right before slamming into one of the buildings..I could be wrong...

Oct 11th / Sept 11th


No doubt the Republican will use this to stir fear so they can re-elected during this very important election year and gear up for the next...they claim to represent Christians, yet both parties use fear as a tatic...GOD DOES NOT GIVE US A SPIRIT OF FEAR....

According to: http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15223650/ If you watch the News clip some of the scenes of the building are blurry... I know its hazy out... but they have professional cameras...they should be working well enough to get a clear picture.. Censorship? Hmm..

Now there are some saying that there was 2 aircrafts, others that saw just a plane, others that saw a helicopter. Hmm something is not right here. Since Manhatten has lots of aricrafts all the time inlcuidng helicopters. I would think that those that did see the crash would know the difference between the two. Wouldn't you?


NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) said it had put fighter aircraft into the air over numerous U.S. cities.

Yet, there was an airplane crash in New Hampshire that was an accident and this happened after 9/11. It crashed into Wal-mart on 11-8-05, and did take off from Manchester Airport, which is nearly an International status airport. Did NORAD issue fighter aircrafts into the air over numourous US Cities just in case it was terror related. Nope.

http://aviation.motleyrice.com/AviationNewsStory3.asp

Here is a list of the top 25 airplane crashes of the world many are terror related, some where just horrible accidents. The one I want to point out is a month after 9/11. On November 12, 2001 at Belle Harbor, New York an airplane bus crashed. Did NORAD issue any fighter jets just in case? Nope, and this on the top 25 list of all time ariplane crashes and one month after 911??!!!

http://www.joegriffith.com/Top_25_Aviation...ane_Crashes.asp

How many other plane crashes have happened in the US after 911 where NORAD did not issue fighter jets over every major US city? Hmm.. I smell a rat here.

Fox new is reporting that new information has just two dead. There does seem to be the possibility that there was a mechanical problem. The plane belonged to Cory Lidle and Ny Yankee pitcher. They believe he was on the plane because his passport was found on the street. They still have not confirmed that he was actually on the plane.
The figher planes were scrambled just because the current security plans say that if any plane hits a building they are scrambled just in case.
We will have to wait to get the final story.
j

Me too...A rat that smells like Republican grand standing...making every effort to remind people of 9/11 so Republicans can again use fear to get re-elected...a staged pysch ops operation for political purposes! At some point people will have to say ENOUGH and vote neitheir democratic nor republican, everyone should register as an independent, and this will tell them we are not at all pleased with gov't performance....we don't like being manipulated by fear and 'false flag' terror threats for political reasons...we're tired of all the proproganda and selling us out to big corporate interests and selling our infrastructure to our enemies while claiming we are safe from terrorism....!

I have question... Why in all the film taken of the building is there no debris directly on the street below? I fully expected to see airplane debris...large chunks of airplane since there's no way an airplane could fit throught the apartment window, yet CNN website said "most of the airplane fell outside the building" ..if that's true...why just minutes after it happened, we are shown images of the side of the building from top to bottom, all the way down to the sidewalk, and there's no debris at all at the bottom, not even trash on the sidewalk? I was shocked...because there's always trash....so if it didn't land on the sidewalk, did it land in the street? The street was clear.

Nothing will ever satisfy you.

whatever

I work with some very sensible people, most in their 60's, they've seen it all, and they believe something is really 'screwy' about this whole thing..they are also asking,
Why in the world would the flight instructor who was with the pilot allow him to fly so low? Wouldn't had been better to hit the river to make sure no one in the city would get hurt?

I respect my elders and since they've seen a lot of history and have accumluated lots of wisdom and understanding from experience...all their years of experience tell them, this is fishy..I have to sit up and take notice when they say something like...because sooner or later, they are ususally shown to be correct...

No one will get a clear picture till all the facts are in...To clarify, I don't believe the crash itself was a psych ops operation, putting fighters in the air was....

I think we all hope that it is a terrible accident...but I do no think we are wrong to think there are somethings amiss. I just pointed out some airplane accidents that happened after 9/11 and how NORAD never issued any fighter jets over US cities just in case it was terror related. One of these crashes happened a month after 9/11 and was also in New York, and even more interesting it is on the top 25 list of airplane disasters in history.

There are conflicting eyewitness accounts. There is some that say that it was a helicopter crash, other say it was an airplane, others say they saw both. You know I am reminded that these witness's are used to seeing helicopters, and airplanes alike in Manhatten airspace all the time. You would think that they would know the difference between an airplane and a helicopter. Both are aircrafts, but look completely different... and what of those that saw both? Are we to believe that because they are regular people and not experts that they can not tell the difference between a helicopter and an airplane? Please a child can tell the difference...

These days we never get the entire truth of a matter on the NEWs it always slanted to the their perspectives and agenda. If this isn't propaganda than I do not know what is. But we have been so conditioned here in the US that we have virtually no propoganda but "freepress" and "freedom of speech". Yet, you can find more in depth reports in Europe on things that are going in the US that we are clueless about.

Ultimately, my guess if it really was an accident, the NORAD issue is for show that we are being protected in the airspace above us from possible terror attacks even at the smallest accident level. Not that this is a bad thing in of itself...but the motivation behind it maybe because elections are just around the corner. Given that it was a large condominium building the fact that no one else was hurt or killed beside those in the aircraft we can at least praise God that not more where hurt or injured.

right on, 1likedeborah!

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/06_G...12.NY.acct.html
New York Eyewitness Account



October 12, 2006
By Robin

I finally spoke to my sister that lives within a block of the plane crash in Manhattan yesterday. She is on the 30th floor of a nearby building. She went onto her balcony and was doubled over by a putrid smell in the air which caused her to leave the Apartment.

She told me that she was on the street within 3 mins. of the crash and as she walked out she was scared out her wits. Explained that it was unbelievable all the emergency teams that had magically arrived so quickly. There were Special teams, Fire-fighters and Police seen running toward the scene. She was told by an officer that she would not be allowed to enter her building again for several hours as 72 and 73 were cordoned off. She got back in via a 71st back-street door. She added that the odor was not at street level just higher. She also told me that 73 around the bldg. is still off limits as it is a crime scene.

In all that she told me the most interesting part was that she could not make any phone calls. The majority of the family live here in Va. and the cell phones were inoperable. She has since heard that all cell phones were taken down. She added that not being able to reach anyone was worse than what she was in and that was about as stressed as she could be. I found that interesting. She is guessing that the City (Govt.) has a system in place to interfere with the communications network as a part of emergency procedures.

...part of the current security policy. I saw plenty of debris on the street below the apartments, along with fire engines and other emergency personnel. I don't watch CNN.

The dip the right wing made was very indicative of a stall, apparently. I watched an interview with a very credible eye-witness who stated that it was a four seater fixed wing aircraft before this was "confirmed". She was right about that, and was quite sure and descriptive of the aircrafts' movements prior to the crash. They allow a ton of air traffic in that area, too.


Your sister in Christ, Angela

thanks, Angela

Perhaps there was a mechcanical failure

Seems a bit irresponsible to let a novice fly over a city, you cant exactly miss a tall building can you? Must have been either a mechanical problem or deliberate act.

The plane took off from an airport about seven miles away and it was following the VFR corridor that was along the river that the planes can fly in. It was clear he was trying to fly around the building to return to the airport. He was flying toward the west when he was trying to go around the building. The wind was blowing to the east. He banked up into the wind and it blew him into the building.

That's what happens with inexperience and I don't think that anybody experienced would try that. Sure the Yankees had just lost a major playoff game, but I think he had too many other things to worry about. Plus, I think he was pitching a curve ball and it curved too soon.

But, God works in mysterious ways. I'm waiting for the person they said was piloting the plane to walk in somewhere and say, 'The report of my demise was greatly exagerrated.'

I also heard that the sheer volume of phone calls being made overloaded the towers.

I don't know....Just been thinking about the Manhatten project...and the red cross...and x marks the spot.

Maybe l've been on the forum too long.



With Korea testing theirs and all...It made me reflect on it.

Hi everyone. I'm officially making my first post here since joining about a year ago. I must say that I enjoy reading this forum and have made it a daily routine. I feel more informed. Not only on World events, but also the Word. Thank you for that.

Here's what I would like to point out about this plane accident...

The date of the plane crash was 10/11/6. Now, if you imagine an axis on the first number and you rotate that date 180 degrees to the left you get 9/11/01.
Bizarre? Huh?

Blessings,
William

Hi discerningsoul,

Well...that's the turn they said he made but most of us need pictures. It is rather bizarre. The whole thing l mean. l don't think it was planned by the hand of man or God but he will use it anyway he wants. It's a reminder. Lay in your bed at night and fear God. Pull the pillow up over your head and cry out!

Save me from myself Lord. Tare down the walls around my heart so l can receive the word l read. Not just in my head but in my heart. Tare down the walls around my heart so l can really forgive those that have offended me. Not just in my head but in my heart. Teach me diplomacy Lord. Teach me to reason the way you do. Help me to see the wall right in front of my face. Forgive me for not forgiving. Forgive me for not receiving your forgiveness. You've torn the curtain now help me tare down the walls... In Jesus name.... and for your names sake! amen

Amen Miki! Thanks for that I needed it!


love ya,
Val

Messiahiscoming

Believe me... I have... this world is truly a mess...



Miki, this is a good prayer... you're intutive and wise... I'm not sure if you were directing this towards me, but I do have some walls... We're working on that... thank you for this prayer.

Thanks you guys.

To all of us. It's everyone of us. We all have walls.

Sometime we cliimb them and look over and realize that Mr Gorbachev is on the other side and we become Ronald Reagan and say, 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!'

Ahhh...If it were all that simple. Communism was a failure and everybody knew it. It was a long time coming with the prayers of many saints being offered up to God. He choose to blow through Regan to topple the crumbling wall down. And yet it's a temporary fix. Only so...

the oil of his spirit can spread across the land..healing and annointing many to bring the good news.
Then when the Gospel preached as a witness to the whole world the end will come.