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Miki
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I was born to Muslim parents, and I'm a descendent of 'ALI IBN ABU TALIB the cousin
of Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, and the fourth Caliph (i.e., "ruler").

At an early age, I was one of the Muslims believers who performed all of the
religious duties, from praying to fasting and everything in between. I was
planning to be an Imam of a mosque, like my grandfather. I started to study
the Fiqh and the Quran (Islamic sacred scripture), but after some time, I felt
bored reading similar books and essays. I recognised that there are a lot
of differences in Islam. For instance, in Iraq (my country), there are a
lot of Shia, and it was strange for a Sunni like me to know that there
was someone different from his faith but claiming to be Muslim, so I
decided to study the various Islamic schools of thought.

After a lot of reading in this field, I become more familiar with Mu'tazilah
than any other school of thought. Mu'tazilah is more reasonable than the
rest of the schools, in the sense that it involves argumentation and philosophy.

I began to be open-minded for the first time in my life. Gradually, I
decided to study other religions. I tried to preach the Quran, starting in
Da'wa (i.e, evangelizm) with some young Christians, using my good knowledge of the
argumentative tools, and I created many faith problems for them. Because of this,
their families appealed to the priest of their church and asked him to invite me
to visit him.

Arguing with him was very difficult for me because he always answered all my
doubting questions. After I had known him a year, he died, but he had changed
a lot of my thoughts about Christianity. However, I still didn't believe in it.

After this, I started to see Islam with new eyes, seeing the contradictions in
it, studying it in comparison to Christianity.

One night in a dream, I saw a vision of a man with a beard talking to me:

"Son", he asked me, "why do you attack my sheep?"
I replied, "Who are you sir?"
He answered, "Jesus Christ"
So, I answered his question, "I'm not attacking your sheep, sir, I'm trying
to bring your lost sheep back to the straight path."
He said, "You are the one who is lost; I'm the straight path."

I woke up asking myself a number of questions: Did I really see Jesus? He
said that I'm lost. What did he mean? Does that mean that the Christian is
right and that I'm on the wrong path? But it was only a dream. Still,
Mohammed said in one of his Hadith that if you see a prophet in a dream, you
see him truly because Satan could not act like a prophet in a vision. Obey him,
and follow what he says. That is what Mohammed said.

After some time being a little confused, I left the two religions and became
a non-believer.

Around that time, my father (a high-ranking officer) died in a car
accident, which we assumed was a natural accident. So, I kept carrying on
with my life, and because I had inherited from my father a good fortune, I
was able to do a lot of wicked things-wasting money on sex, alcohol, drugs,
whatever I could find for pleasure.

After a period of time, I heard again a voice (which I knew was
Jesus's voice), saying, "Run away from your country NOW!"

This voice was firm with me, so I woke up, I bagged my things, and in a few
hours, I was outside Iraq and heading for my mother's home in another
Arabic country.

When I was in the airplane (that was 1990, and Iraq was not under the
siege), I began to doubt my actions and started to blame myself for the
stupid thing I was doing. But then, I told myself, "Well, let's have an
early vacation. I can at least thank Jesus for that". And I smiled at the
evil thoughts about what I was going to do for pleasure on my trip.

When I landed in the Arabic country that I was travelling to, I went to my
grandfather's house. There, I called my mother back in Iraq saying, "Mom,
don't worry-I'm visiting here for a while, and then, I'll return home".

She replied, "Don't ever think about coming back-there was a police unit
seeking you!"

Knowing that I had never broken the law or even been involved in any
political opposition, I answered in shock, "What??!! What you are talking
about?!"

She said, "They were seeking some military documents that they think that your
father hid, and for this (they had told her), he was assassinated. Thank
God that you left-they thought that you had the documents. They took your
brothers (from another mother), too, to investigate them".

[Note: My mother was protected during all of this because she was an Arabic
journalist working with her country's embassy, so nobody could hurt her or
arrest her for investigation without permission from the ministry of
foreign affairs.]

I was shocked. I felt dizzy. I could not imagine what would happen! But if
I were there in Iraq, they would torture me to confess what I had not done,
and maybe they would kill me. What an unexpected danger I had escaped from!
I had never imagined that I would have to flee for my life. I had never had
a thought that I could ever be in such danger.

Who could have known such a future for me?! God alone could have known it!
So, was Jesus God?!! I really became confused, shocked, dizzy, and-in this
condition-passed out. After a few hours, I woke up from my comatose state,
and I start to pray to God, sincerely asking Him to show me the way, the
truth.

After that, I dreamed again of Jesus, and he said to me, "I love you. Why
you don't love me likewise? Come to me because I have a plan for you". I
woke up crying. He was looking for me, and I was trying to escape from him.
He wanted me to be with him, and I was not. He had saved me from the hands
of the Iraqi torture machine, so I told him, "I'm coming to you, Jesus,
even if this costs me my life".

At that moment, He entered my life, and become my Lord and Saviour. I really
was washed in His pure blood, becoming another person, one reborn in His grace.

Local Christian churches refused to help me at first, and for a period of
time, I felt that I was very alone and that only God was with me.

The only real worry that I had, however, was about my means of living, for
I had left my wealth behind me, and unfortunately for me, the Iraqi
authorities had confiscated all my property.

But the Lord showed me that I couldn't rely upon material wealth anyway,
for a few months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the Iraqi Dinar, which was
officially 3 dollars and in the black market merely 30 cents, fell
enormously in value. Most of the wealth that I had inherited from my father
had been in Iraqi currency, and I had it in the bank while I was living
in Iraq. If I had still been living in Iraq during the Gulf crisis, then
instead of having $800,000, I would have had only $800!! Thanks be to Jesus
for showing me that I can only depend upon him, not upon worldly things.
From this, I derive comfort.

After a long period of time in my mother's country, where I was witnessing
for Jesus, extremist Islamic groups there discovered my apostasy from
Islam. They held a faith court about me, and commanded me to repent and
renew my faith in Islam, or they would kill me for being a Murttad (i.e.,
"apostate"). They gave me 2 days to make my decision.

I tried to go to the police for protection, but the police arrested me for
inciting activities against Islam and disturbing community security. They
put me in jail and started to investigate me, asking about other converts
and about missionaries. I was lucky that I had not been baptized yet
because they emphasised the following questions: "Have you ever been
baptized?!" "Who baptized you?!" "Which church do you attend?!" "Who
evangelized you?!".

My being a foreigner helped me, for they eventually released me and
commanded me to leave the county, giving me only a very short period in
which to do so. God provided me a visa to an Eastern European country, and
I left my mother's country within the time they had demanded.

Now I live in the USA.
Humble Bob
I do pray for this individual, may the Christ cover him in love and protection, amen.


there is so much mistrust in the world today
Miki
The other day I heard the testimony of three terrorist who God saved. It was awesome!!!

One of them said...I am a dead man living every day on borrowed time from God...Wow.

We should sacrifice so much...But they are required to give much for the Lord...

One of them, after being saved said "Lord l will do anything you ask. I will die for You".

The Lord answered him back and said " No l don't want you to die for me...I died for you!"

How awesome is our God!
NoFool
Beautiful. Just beautiful. smile.gif

Thanks for sharing.
Jack Lavictoire
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I do pray for this individual, may the Christ cover him in love and protection, amen.


there is so much mistrust in the world today


Amen, may God's Christ protect him!

Man that was a beautiful read... I'm gonna have to share it!

Thank you Jesus!!!

Edit:

I wrote the guy and he told me the following.

"I am one of the directors of the biggest apologetic web site regarding Islam on the web www.answering-islam.org"
AngelaNPraise
That was inspiring, to say the least! Thank you for sharing. It also reminds me to pray for the lost among our enemies, because as long as they have breath, they can come to Christ.

Your sister in Christ, Angela
Islam
even though very well written, unfortanetly its not true. the man says he works in the site answering islam yet the site clearly makes deliberate lies against the prophet Mohammed no ex Muslim would do. For ex they say he had a sex slave called Maria, they lied and still do, she was his wife! All Muslims know that, why would he deliberately lie? I know lying isnt allowed in Christianity.
anyone can write an article and say i converted from so and so to so and so. Ive never saw a Muslim on tv say i converted to christianity, yet daily we see tdens of christians converting to islam. 50,000 americans in 2003 only. Plus these books of ex jihadist or terrorists who converted to christianity, what makes you so sure they actually arent written by Christians?

Maybe you folks could help me.


"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs." - 4:171
C
I thank God that through Jesus Christ, He opened the way for all who will come, into His presence. Jesus said "I am the way, and nobody comes to the Father, except through Me"
Today we do not have a religion, but a relationship. God can again walk with man, because He paid the penalty for us, through His broken body on the cross. Through His eternal love, He calls men to repentance (to change their minds) and to agree with Him.
Once you have tasted the goodness of God through the Holy Spirit, you can never go back to the world. His eternal love surrounds us and His grace supports us. He cleansed us from all unrighteousness and placed our feet on the Rock to stay. He translated us from darkness into the marvelous Kingdom of Light.
Once the Word takes root in your heart, it changes you. Christ in us, the hope of glory. He is changing us from glory to glory.The Word , the Truth above all truth. All things will pass away, but that will always be, for it has always been. He Who lives in the eternity of eternities, Who now lives in me...He is all in all and always has been.
He made me free, I can never go back into bondage. What a marvelous freedom from self and self-righteousness...nothing to do with me...He did it all for me. He forgave me , He sanctified me, He started a good work in me and will finish it.In my weakness, His strength comes to my aid. He heals my body and restores my soul. He is my Alpha and my Omega, He is my beginning and my end...His love is like a fire that goes before Him.No unrighteousness is found in Him. He is Light and in Him is no darkness.
His name is Jesus, He is the One I serve and none other. For Him I live and for Him I die.I belong to Him, because He bought me at a price...His precious blood.
He even died for you, because He loves those whom He created.
Praise His Holy Name
C
AngelaNPraise
"the man says he works in the site answering islam yet the site clearly makes deliberate lies against the prophet Mohammed no ex Muslim would do"

Islam,
how do you know what an ex-muslim would do? Perhaps it's because his mind is now able to see the truth for what it is that he can say such things. Who was it that was supposed to have a sex-slave? The man testifying spoke of no such thing, therefore it must have been Mohammed, right? Mohammed's first wife was a very wealthy woman, or so I've been learned (from a muslim), and Mohammed also had others"wives" if you want to call them that, which included a SIX-YEAR OLD wife, which makes him a pedophile in any rational mind. We know the worth islam places on women, from this I am inclined to believe this.

Angela

P.S. Still praying for you. In the name of the Jesus the Christ, from the Father, with the Holy Ghost.
hannah fievel
Hello family,

What a wonderful testamony to our Lord! HE can and does "always" provide a way" for those who He calls unto Himself, Praise be His Holy name...JESUS!

Then, I'll add in a little testamony of a young muslim girl whom I was priviledged to teach the Love of Jesus to...She was born and raised in Saudi Arabia. She came here just before "her biological father" was about to "sell?" her to a man into marriage...she was 12, her mother became aware of what was about to happened and took herself and her three children and "RAN" back to the USA to raise them. The mother herself was of no particular faith and had taught the daughter "nothing". All she had ever learned about faith of any kind was what she was "forced to learn in schooling". sad.gif

One day we had a chance to talk, at this point she had become engaged to my son. So, you know I HAD to ask...Was she christian and did she know of Jesus? She "of course" knew the name of Jesus from her studies, but had "no idea" of why and what HE had done for her and the rest of us....When I told her...that HE died for "her sins" and if she had faith in the Lord, He could save her too! So....later on as the weeks progressed and we had spent much time together "She thanked me....why?....Because "No one had ever told her His Truth"...and now she was full of love, faith and rejoicing in her "new" life in Christ, amen! And, her mother even thanked me...she said "It was like she had gotten a "whole new daughter and one that was much easier to love and receive love from, amen! smile.gif PRAISE THE LORD FOR HIS FAITHFULNESS! wub.gif to all, your sis, hannah smile.gif

PS Angela I am praying in agreement with you too, in Jesus' name I pray, amen. (((hugs))) 1dsz5h3.gif
Islam
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Mohammed's first wife was a very wealthy woman, or so I've been learned (from a muslim), and Mohammed also had others"wives" if you want to call them that, which included a SIX-YEAR OLD wife, which makes him a pedophile in any rational mind. We know the worth islam places on women, from this I am inclined to believe this.


Yes his first wife was a wealthy women, yet he lived in poverty at the time he married her. He ate leaves for three years since the pagan Arabs refused selling him any food.

Yes he had other wifes, according to the Bibe Solomon had 600 wives, am I wrong? maybe 300? I cant remember the number.

A 6 year old wife? No no. She was 10 according to some, 12.

What about Mary, Jesus's Mother peace be upon both of them? How old was she when she got pregnant?
According to the "Oxford Dictionary Bible" commentary, Mary (peace be upon her) was was 12 years old when she became impregnated.
According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36. Mary was only 13 when she married Joseph. When she first was arranged with Joseph she was between 7 to 9 years old."

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Okay, lets have a look at the psyche of a typical pedophile, and see how much of it fits Muhammad shall we? Quoted text is taken from Understanding the Pedophile Psyche, courtesy of the Police Federation of England & Wales:

http://www.polfed.org/magazine/08_2001/80_..._paedophile.htm

"Low self esteem. Many pedophiles, although by no means all, do not have a great sense of capacity for adopting a sexual demeanor towards adults or those of their own age or older. They feel unhappy and fearful at the prospect of sexual behaviour with adults and hence turn to children due to the fact that they are unable to have the strength of personality to seek adults for sexual demeanor. When considering treatment therefore it is important to establish and develop a higher sense of self-esteem in such individuals."

As well as being married to Aisha, he was also married to many other women during his life. He wasn't certainly suffering from low self-esteem. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad.

"Lack of impulse control. Many pedophiles find it extremely difficult to deal with the impulsive nature which inclines them towards sexual behaviour to children. They simply cannot control their need for engaging children in sexual practices. They might be said to suffer from an obsessive-compulsive condition. Here again treatment would involve developing better impulse control and of course redirecting the sexual inclinations."

As has been mentioned before, Muhammad waited for at least two years before consummating the marriage. Therefore, this point of 'lack of self control' does not apply to Muhammad. Also, fasting during Ramadan requires abstention from sexual relations. Why would Muhammad practise this if he had no self-control?

"Denial. Many pedophiles deny there is anything wrong with having sexual relations with children and many will in due course paradoxically deny having carried out such practices should they be confronted. It is vital to change the attitudes of such individuals much as in the lack of empathy with their victim."

Muhammad never once denied having sex with his wife. Also note the use of the term 'victim'. Aisha could not be described as a victim. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad.

"History of previous pedophile activity. Many pedophiles have carried out minor or major acts of pedophile behaviour in the past and this has led to habit as well as the obsessive-compulsive nature of the act towards children. It is vital here to promote alternative habits i.e. in attitudes and demeanor of sexual behaviour with adults."

Muhammad has no history of pedophile activity whatsoever. Also, as I pointed out, all of Muhammad's other wives were adult, and there is no evidence of him being obsessed with children. Therefore, this doesn't apply to Muhammad.

"Poor family relationships - many pedophiles have come from families that are in chaos or are lacking in stability. This has led them to view sexual behaviour with children rather than adults as acceptable especially if this has been practised upon them by a member of the family in the past. Although it is difficult to reverse what has happened in the past through discussion or attitude changes it is vital that insight must be gained by the individual into how his/her pedophile activity originated and was developed through the family dynamics."

Although he was orphaned at a young age, Muhammad was always very close to all his family members, and advocated that whosoever cuts the bond of kith and kin, he/she would be denied paradise. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad.

"Low IQ - there are pedophiles who have low intelligence but by no means all are in this category. Where this is the case appropriate therapeutic efforts must be made to develop understanding of what they are doing wrong and what they must do to change."

Despite being illiterate, Muhammad had a reputation for being a very bright young boy, an excellent trader, and an extremely wise man. Therefore, this point does not apply to Muhammad.

"Loneliness, depression and relationship needs - this particular trait is associated with low self-esteem and lack of empathy with the victim. Many pedophiles are lonely individuals who live on their own and have found it difficult to establish relationships with adults, especially for sexual purposes. Some suffer from psychological problems and even psychotic illnesses. Here intensive treatment and monitoring is in order."

Muhammad wasn't suffering from depression when he married Aisha. Also, low self-esteem, loneliness, and difficulty to establish relations could not be attributed to Muhammad.

"Having been themselves sexually abused - many pedophiles have themselves been sexually abused in the past by adults. They merely imitate what they experienced and continue their activity considering it as appropriate since it was done to them."

This certainly isn't true.

I have demonstrated that, despite the fact Muhammad married a 10-year old girl, he could NOT be considered a pedophile.

Womens rights? No relegion on earth gives women more rights then Islam. COntrary to what the media shows you of them being opressed, the number of women converts to Islam is twice the much of men.
Study Islam, then judge it, please.
Yet the Bible says about womens rights:

Exodus 21:7-11
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.

Please dont mention my relegion with no proof, because you misunderstand it and have a huge lack of knowledge about it.

AngelaNPraise
Hannah,

Thank the Lord for your daughter-in-law! I'm sooooooooo happy for you and her! Praise God she escaped her horrifying ordeal of marriage at that young age. Her mother is a coruageous woman, and I'll be praying for the wholle family. Thank you Lord Jesus!

Your sister in Christ, Angela
AngelaNPraise
That is OLD testament, the law from which we were freed, written thousands of years before mohammed tried to put people back under the "law". The Lord Jesus freed us over 600 years before islam hit the scene and really, what's the difference between 6 and 10, they are both the age of children. Mary was by all accounts 14 years of age AND YET UNMARRIED! Being bethrothed at a young age does not mean being molested at that same young age. She was impregnated by the Holy Spirit without intercourse to bear the Son of God.
You pointed out the very reasons why he should be considered a pedophile.

1)Low self-esteem. Why would he want children for "wives" otherwise. War-mongering as well, Napoleon and Hitler both were concluded to have low self-esteem and therefore their overwhelming drive to conquer others.

2)Lack of impulse control. See one.

3)Denial. He obviously didn't see anything wrong with molesting little girls and justfied it by calling them 'wife' i.e. victim. Just because he called them wife does not mean they were not also his victims.

4)Poor family relationships. Why else would he hide in a desert for three years?

5)Low IQ. Where did you come up with this one? The average child molester has over 100 victims before he is caught the first time. That would denote above average intelligence.

You proved my point for me.

Jesus the Christ set us free from the old law, by grace, through faith, in Him. I will continue to pray for you.

Angela
Islam
Where did I come up with this? Call the U.K police and ask them to email, fax, or send you a description of a pedophile. Thats where.
AngelaNPraise
I was referring to point number five when I asked that question.

Yes, they did such a fine job of apprehending another sexual predator, Jack the Ripper wink.gif, while underestimating his intelligence.

Angela
C
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Please dont mention my relegion with no proof, because you misunderstand it and have a huge lack of knowledge about it.

Islam, this cuts both ways. You might think that you know about Christianity, but you do not.In order to understand you have to first meet Jesus Himself.
Christians knows little (not all) about Islam, because we have no interest in it.This is a Christian forum and not a discussion board between religions. Christianity is not a religion, its a relationship, so do not confuse the two.True Christianity has nothing to do with religion.It also shares nothing with the religions of the world.
Some "Christians" (who are not) are perpatrating religion in the name of Christianity and those and true Christians are not on the same team.

C
chrio39
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Islam, this cuts both ways. You might think that you know about Christianity, but you do not.In order to understand you have to first meet Jesus Himself.
Christians knows little (not all) about Islam, because we have no interest in it.This is a Christian forum and not a discussion board between religions. Christianity is not a religion, its a relationship, so do not confuse the two.True Christianity has nothing to do with religion.It also shares nothing with the religions of the world.
Some "Christians" (who are not) are perpatrating religion in the name of Christianity and those and true Christians are not on the same team.

C

I couldn't agree more. wink.gif
Miki
Muslim Encounters with Jesus


‘. . . more and more stories are coming out of closed countries of God supernaturally evangelizing Muslims through dreams and visions. Of the estimated thousands of new believers in Iran in the last few years, over half of them became believers after Jesus personally came to them in a dream or vision.’ Wendell Evans of the Billy Graham Center’s Institute for Muslim Studies refers to ‘the frequency of reported dreams and visions of Christ among Muslims . . .’


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Hell
Abdullah was a faithful Muslim. He lived just an hour’s drive from Mecca, prayed in the mosque five times a day, practiced all the Muslim beliefs, and, of course, regularly visited Mecca. Like many Muslims, he was taught that Christians had evil spirits and that he must keep away from them.

One night Abdullah dreamed he was in hell, burning in a blazing fire. The next morning, very worried, he prayed to Allah, ‘I have done everything well; why would I go to hell?’ During the following days he grew increasingly troubled. One night he was sleepless because of fear, when at midnight a bright light lit his room and a voice said, ‘I am Jesus. Come to me. I am the way to heaven. Follow me and you shall be saved from hell.’ Abdullah fell on his face crying and said, ‘Please help me find you.’

Within days Abdullah found a Christian Bible and began reading it. He soon committed his life to Jesus. Filled with joy, he started sharing his new-found faith with his family and friends. By his country’s law, however, a Muslim who leaves his faith must be killed. Abdullah’s family turned him over to the authorities. He was jailed and tortured for months.

When Abdullah refused to deny Jesus, he was taken to the Sheria Court, where the most dangerous criminals are tried. The judge said to Abdullah, ‘Deny your new beliefs and you will walk out a free man; if you don’t, you will be beheaded.’

‘I will never deny Jesus,’ Abdullah replied, ‘If you kill me I will go to heaven, but my blood will be on your hands.’ Abdullah was sentenced to be beheaded the following Friday.

He was returned to jail and bound hands and feet. On the day of his execution, however, no one turned up. Next Monday morning the guards removed his chains saying, ‘Run you demon, we do not want to see you again.’ Unable to believe his ears, Abdullah asked for an explanation. The guards said that on the day Abdullah was to be executed the judge’s son had suddenly died. As a result the judge reversed his decision.

Like most Saudis, Abdullah was from a wealthy family and had everything he needed. Not only was he rejected by his family, he had no source of income, and could not get a job because he was considered a betrayer. All of his identification papers were taken from him and he could have been arrested again at any time. And yet despite this pressure Abdullah continued to live for several years in Saudi Arabia, actively telling others about Jesus.






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Peace
Indian-born Ibrahim Yousef James moved with his family to Kuwait when he was six. While still in his teens he went into business with his older brother and by the time he was 20, he had amassed a fortune. He owned the largest television production facility in Kuwait. A devout Muslim, he studied the Koran and kept all the religious Islamic traditions. He gave money to the poor and made many pilgrimages to Mecca. There was only one thing Ibrahim had attempted and failed. He tried suicide four times. Why could he not find peace? He searched the Koran for answers but found none.

He went to England to study electronic engineering. In the month of Ramadan, during the last week of his fast, he developed insomnia. No matter what he tried, sleep eluded him. Prowling around in his hotel room he found a Bible. Flipping it open he read ‘Where to find help in time of need’. He read the list and found ‘needing sleep - Psalm 4.’ ‘If you are the God of this book, give me sleep,’ he prayed. He stretched across the bed and fell into a deep dreamless sleep. The next morning he forgot about the Bible and God. Later in the week he came across a man on the street preaching and claiming that Jesus was the only way to God. Ibrahim thought it was all rubbish and Jesus was not the son of God. He also came across an American couple who told him to ask God for the answer, and that God loves him and will speak to him. Ibrahim had never heard of anyone say that God would speak to them. Five nights later Ibrahim dreamed of a bright light in the form of a cross and a voice said, ‘This is my way. Jesus is my son. I give my peace to you. I leave my joy with you’.

He had heard from God, and spent the day counting the cost of following Jesus. He knew he would be rejected totally. But the more he thought about Jesus, the more he wanted to know. He met a Christian lady who told him about Jesus, and Ibrahim, weeping openly, gave his life to the Lord Jesus. The first thing he did was to tell his family. They were all very angry and told him that they never want to hear from him again.

Ibrahim began seriously studying the Bible and married a Christian woman. There was no reconciliation from his family. Then one day he got a telegram asking him to attend his sister’s wedding. ‘We forgive you, please come,’ said his father. As Ibrahim prayed about it, God told him not to take his wife. Upon arriving in Bombay, Ibrahim was warmly welcomed by his relatives and friends. Before long, however, his father attacked him, beating, kicking and punching Ibrahim until he was blinded with blood. Every member of Ibrahim’s family supported his father’s action. ‘I cannot deny Christ,’ Ibrahim kept saying. His father pointed a gun at him. Just seconds before he fired, Ibrahim’s uncle grabbed the gun from his father. Ibrahim was kept as a prisoner in the house. They destroyed all his wedding pictures, Bible, Christian books and tapes. As days passed Ibrahim’s father felt that he was coming around, but he still kept him prisoner, instructing guards to shoot Ibrahim if he ever tried to leave. Gradually he was allowed to go out to meet friends but not without a guard.

One day Ibrahim asked to see his school friend and his father took him out. God said to Ibrahim, ‘This is the day to leave your family.’ His father had to inspect something on the way, so he let Ibrahim complete the journey on his own. Seizing the opportunity, Ibrahim went straight to a Christian pastor, who helped him get away.

Recently Ibrahim spoke to his father by phone and his father admitted, ‘I know that your God is real because for ten years all our plans to harm you have failed.’

http://net-burst.net/hot/muslim.htm#ibrahim

senteami3
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even though very well written, unfortanetly its not true. the man says he works in the site answering islam yet the site clearly makes deliberate lies against the prophet Mohammed no ex Muslim would do. For ex they say he had a sex slave called Maria, they lied and still do, she was his wife! All Muslims know that, why would he deliberately lie? I know lying isnt allowed in Christianity.
anyone can write an article and say i converted from so and so to so and so. Ive never saw a Muslim on tv say i converted to christianity, yet daily we see tdens of christians converting to islam. 50,000 americans in 2003 only. Plus these books of ex jihadist or terrorists who converted to christianity, what makes you so sure they actually arent written by Christians?

Maybe you folks could help me.


"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs." - 4:171


You seem confused. Why is it so difficult to BELIEVE??? I believe! Let me tell you my story:
I was raised a Catholic and always believed Jesus was the son of God. One day, I asked out loud that I was ready to believe in him (Jesus) but if I just could see him I would really believe. As I was a scaredy cat, I asked to have a dream of him, not a vision smile.gif Soon after I dreamt I was going down some steps and on the landing stood Jesus, in the middle of a small group of people with raised hands. He pushed them gently aside and walked towards me, and said (he was very close!): "For your problem, it is not because I did not want, but I had no time; but now I am going to take care of you".
Jesus is tall, taller than all the hands raised around him. He is well built, slender, with a light skin and reddish blond hair, tucked in a pony tail. He has blue eyes and a face as in the Shroud of Turin. He was wearing a white robe with a rope around his waist and was barefoot. His beard is short.
For 3 days and 3 nights thereafter, I felt his loving, overwhelming presence. I was grieved when it departed from me. Now I have asked Jesus in my heart and I always feel his presence with me. I now know that the loving presence I felt then was the Holy Spirit. Since that time, I am no longer afraid, I have the peace that surpasses all understanding and the blessed assurance I will go to Heaven when I die.
One day, a year before I god born again, I saw an angel in the sky, holding a black sword, point up. I believe it was Michael (= "equal to God"); The end times are coming and Michael is getting ready to cast down Satan from Heaven (this will happen at mid-Tribulation according to the Book of Revelation.)
God gave me a book to write about the Bible and I can't tell you about all the signs he gave me, confirming to me that we are in the end times.Sometimes, God just blows my mind!
I used to believe that all gods were the same, but God showed me that these are false gods, because I asked him to give me the truth for my book. I now know that all other gods are lying demons; God is God; god is not divided because if he was, I would never trust him. The Bible says "I am your God; I change not. It also says : I am the same yesterday, today and tommorrow, and also "God is not a man that he should lie". God says to Moses: "I am that I am"!
I am glad to know my saviour Jesus Christ; only him has the authority to deliver man from demonic possession. The Bible shows that the demon possessed man in Gadarenes recognized Jesus as "the son of God", even though Jesus never told them who he was.
hannah fievel
Hey senteami,

I am going to put in my testamony here too! You may have been raised Catholic, but I was raised "Jewish", so Islam "you can see HE can reach anyone and under any circumstance", amen!

Here's a piece of my blog:

My name is hannah fievel and I was born in MA and have lived in MD for the last forty plus years. This is an unusual testamony as you shall see, I may have to write this adventure with Christ into chapters. I will start when I first became His child, amen.

Hurray, it was my birthday, it was Jan early seventies and cold that night, but I was determined to throw myself a party! And, I did and it was grand! Lots of drugs, rock and roll, alcohol and men, what more could a young girl want!? Well, I did it "all" and had loads of "what I thought was fun", well everyone left and I tried my best to sleep. But because of the drugs...I couldn't....so I sat in my bed staring into my dresser mirror....Where I saw a glowing greenish mist appearing in the mirror, and then a "handsome man's face was there" I was shocked...I asked "who are you?" and he replied "I am your father, you please me and you are my daughter"....well, even though I had no faith or religious upbringing I did know this....He couldn't have pleased with me(if it was God)...cause I was a total "heathen...who hated God and was doing my best to do all that would disgust Him! So I knew this was "His enemy in my mirror"!

Right then I jumped up, hit the floor and started praying for the first time ever "Please God don't let me go to hell", now why I thought of hell...no idea, but I knew I had heard of that...and didn't want to die like I was! As I sat there I noticed a breeze blowing around my room...I thought "this is weird" as the blinds, flowers, and feathers in my room where moving and I could feel it too, no window open, no door open, no reason for "bedroom wind"! Now, I know "who was in the wind" Hurray! So, as I sat there I either died or passed out (still not sure as I was alone) and saw "A whiteish golden glowing light forming at the foot of my bed, now I was still shaken from the first adventure in the mirror...so I asked again..."Who are you?" This time the reply was way different....This figure that I saw within the light said "I am Jesus, Son of the Living God and you are not living your life according to His will for you"! At that moment....it was "all different" I now knew there was a God and I loved Him, and even better He loved and cared for me! AMEN! Which all I had even "heard" was God was the punishing God of the OT. And, I also had never read one word of bible but had only heard "that if you are bad...God will punish you", I think this was "jewish thoughts about the Lord"! I still am amazed that jewish people try to live out the laws of Moses....they are totally "unkeepable"....that is why God sent His only begotton Son to us, so we could have fellowship with God once again, just like Adam and Eve did, amen!

Okay, next day...I go to work...totally "Hyped" as I had just met HIM, well, I wouldn't shut up about meeting the Lord and with two jewish parents...they thought me nuts! So, off to the hospital...where I was given "lots of meds"...funny thing about the meds...they didn't stop our Lord from showing and teaching me, I was fully aware, they tried different meds for the next 9 months, but when the Lord had something to say or show me...it didn't matter a lick! He could reach through "anything"! And, for that first almost year, we walked together! I didn't have any religious background, so He had much to teach me! While in the hospital, He showed me the rapture all the way into the trib...from "His righteous being taken all the way to the mushroom over DC", which the hospital was about 5 miles north of there. Now, I was taken back by these visions of horror and of love...so I spoke to one young man who thought he was an indian chief and told him what I had seen...like four horses coming from the heavens, the glowing balls of light that met the Lord upon the clouds, and even "disasters" that were coming! Well, he laughed and said "This is not new news, go to the nightstand in your room and read the last chapter of the bible...it's all in there"! First of all I had never even seen the New Testament, but read it anyway, and was stunned to see that all I had seen was right there in black and white! So, I knew all this was from Jesus! So, of course I told...well the more I told the more "insane" I guess I sounded...especially since the enemy was telling me crap that I was also expounding about "aliens were coming to get us" and more "junk" along those lines! It has taken me years to figure out what was "solid biblically" and what wasn't, but now I am "good" at recognising "wrong thinking" and that is "way good" and I can help others who are having difficulties! Praise the Lord!

Well, of course it just didn't stop there...I saw "many things that were heavenly in nature" and somethings that weren't so nice over the next nine months. I guess the Lord is bringing some of those "memories" back to me...so I can share them with all of you! Like I saw "the New Earth"....it was like the sky rolled back and I could see "what this old world would look like after the trib and HE is sitting on the throne in Jerusalem"!!!....You will be shocked at the beauty our Lord will provide for those who "overcome the trib", it was "more beautiful than anything one can imagine"....it was PERFECT, perfect loving people sharing, caring, living, laughing, and Loving...all with "yes, flying vehicles" and Perfect houses that ran on "light" energy that never pollutes, amen! And, then I saw "how people were sharing" I was in the grocery store, I looked around and everyone was "just taking what they needed" and the people at check out were doing just that "just checking" to see that you got what you needed! And, no money, just LOVE abounded! Everyone was sooo happy and joyful, I can't wait for Him to come and fix all this mess we made here, amen.

Then, I don't know if this was a priviledge or something for me to think about "I saw the other side" which is in control now...now remember this all happened more than thirty years ago, and I have studied "those in the dark" and understand "all this must take place first"....but the demonic ranks are dragging peoples eyes off of the Lord by making them look "hard" at what is going on in this world...I say "take your eyes off this world...And look towards the heavenly things and all will be well with you, amen!

Our Lord promises He will hold us all in the palm of His hand and keep us safe, if we let Him,amen. I don't think it "worth telling" about the darkness and demons as it does nothing to uplift the Lord, just know "they(evil)are wanting you to stop thinking about Christ and all that He promised" because if you have no fellowship with Him, how would He know you! You know that scripture "some will call out My name, and I will say I knew you not"...it's because "too many people are watching this world and not His world...which we are part of HIS KINGDOM, not this sickening place that man has made for himself" AMEN! He just wants us to focus on HIM and He will add all things to you! What more could anyone ask for....than OUR LORD? I try really hard to make Jesus the center of my life and He goes with me "everywhere" I go and I trust Him to care for me! Even when I don't think I feel Him around...I know He is there, and with all of us! THE LORD LOVES HIS CHILDREN ALWAYS! Praise Him for His sacrifice He gave us and how "He showed us how to love" and let us love one another as He loves us, and let us LOVE THE LORD WITH ALL OUR HEARTS, MINDS AND SOULS, AMEN! In Jesus' name I pray, amen. wub.gif In Him to all, Your sister, hannah smile.gif

PS I pray this happens to you Islam, In Jesus' name I pray! 1dsz5e4.gif
senteami3
1dsz5h3.gif 1dsz5e4.gif 1dsz5h2.gif [color=#CC66CC][size=4]Hey Hannah... How was the Rapture? Did we actually "go up"; could you see other people go up? Did you hear the SHOFAR blow like I did too (I too had a vision about the Rapture...)[/color=#CC66CC][/size=4]
jhamner
Here is my testimony Islam. I do not lie- God is my witness.

I was raised in a Christian church but never really allowed Jesus to radically change me. However, there was always a hole in my heart.

To keep it brief-

I got married and had a daughter. During the last year of college (training to become a teacher), I had to teach. The mentor who was training me (supervising teacher) was a very godly man. His relationship with Jesus was different than anything I'd ever seen. He "knew" God- and his heart was so gentle and he was full of life and peace. I wanted what he had.

One day, in the shower, I asked the Lord into my heart. I also asked to be baptised with the Holy Spirit. I almost expected something spectacular to happen in the shower with soap in my hair. Nothing did- but by faith alone I knew that I was in Jesus' family.

However, about a week or so later I was sleeping as usual. I was in bed, laying on my stomach. Suddenly, I became aware that there was a presence in the room. I was asleep- but my spirit was awake and aware. (I can't explain it better than that, I'm sorry). I suddenly felt two hands lay gently on my back. As soon as these hands touched me, I felt electric like bolts run throughout my body. I was stunned and a bit fearful- wondering what was hovering behind me. Slowly, I turned around- and above my bed was a "Being". It had penatrating eyes and looked like it was ON FIRE. I felt NO evil, but an overwheming sense of awe. I couldn't directly look into its eyes- but I "knew" they were there (again, that's the best way I can describe it). As SOON as I saw this Being, I jumped up awake. The electricity was still coursing through my body. I sat there- eyes wide open- almost paralized by what had just happened to me.

I knew that I had been baptised by the Holy Spirit- that God had answered my little prayer in the shower. biggrin.gif

Since then, God has become real. Period. I pray- and Jesus answers. My twin brother was very "in the world" when I was saved. However, 6 months after I started to pray for my brother's salvation, to Jesus' credit, he became an on fire believer. I barely even spoke to him about what was happening to me- the changes Jesus was making in my life, but my prayers were remembered in heaven- and he is now in God's family. He is in his final semester in seminary- going to be a pastor. NO ONE could have EVER believed that this would be his profession. Just about two months ago, Jesus moved in my mother's life. She is a totally different person- I cannot believe the transformation. Her heart is forever changed by the Holy Spirit.

Other miracles...

My one year old son Noah fell off of the bed and got a hair line fracture in his shoulder. We went to the emergency room- got an x-ray. My poor little guy couldn't move his arm. I called two of my sisters in Christ praying for healing- not more than five minutes later- he was healed and playing normally. My husband stood there dumbfounded and in shock.

My son had a fever of 103 one day. He was very very sick. I layed hands on him praying for healing. The fever left immediately and he was fine flashing his beautiful smile within minutes.

My daughter dreams prophetic dreams. My husband, who is not currently saved, is the subject of many of my prayers. Zoe (my daughter) who is too young to understand this stuff, had a dream. She dreamed that there was a family of fish. The daddy fish got separated from the mamma fish and her two baby fish. A monster was trying to eat the daddy fish- but the monster couldn't get to the mamma and baby fish because they were protected in a cave. Zoe was very afraid when she woke up. The bible calls us all fish- if you are a Christian, you are a fisher of men. Jason, my husband, WILL BE saved- and the enemy knows it. My prayers are being heard in heaven.

I could go on and on and on. Please oh please, my friend. Ask Jesus to make Himself known. He will. I promise. He LONGS to know you- to love you. He died for you to be able to spend eternity loving Him and others. You cannot earn your way to heaven, but you must simply believe in the One who gave you the gift of salvation.

Are you sure of your salvation? Do you have a life changing story to offer? Does Allah move in your life in such real and tangible ways?
jhamner
These testimonies make me want to weep with JOY!!!

Jesus, Holy Spirit, Father... what a miraculous thing You are doing!!! I praise You for EVERY single soul that is in Your family.

They were saved by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony.

AMEN! biggrin.gif
kim48
This topic has turn into something great. I have to read all the testamonies.
I too had been raise in a church. I thought I was saved. I went around saying I was. I was in the church everytime the door was open. Something was missing and I could feel it. There was no peace within.
A few years ago I went to watch the movie The Passion Of THe Christ and in the middle of it I started crying and could not stop because of all the sins I had commited. The power of the Lord came down on me and change me in less than a second. I knew all the empty feeling were gone. THe feeling of over powing love came down and feel me. It happen so fast and so much love it still overwhelms me thinking about it today. I had so many things to talk over with my savior that night. I thought I had the answer to everything. I knew nothing. All the sins I commited he totally washed them away with love. When I look at someone that thinks they know it all, well I feel sorry for them because they need to feel the love that I felt that night. My savior loves beyond our minds. I didnt have to doing anything but love him and say sorry God. There was no works involed just alot of love for me to have.
Kim
hannah fievel
QUOTE(senteami3 @ Oct 18 2006, 07:38 PM) [snapback]88488[/snapback]

1dsz5h3.gif 1dsz5e4.gif 1dsz5h2.gif [color=#CC66CC][size=4]Hey Hannah... How was the Rapture? Did we actually "go up"; could you see other people go up? Did you hear the SHOFAR blow like I did too (I too had a vision about the Rapture...)[/color=#CC66CC][/size=4]


Okay, senteami, I'll be "bold" and unafraid to share...I saw "families of glowing lights in circles acsending into the heavens", but those "left behind" could not see them, they could only see "HIM" standing on the clouds...those "cursed Him for they felt they had been cheated", sad but true! And, not only did "I hear the Shofar blow...I saw Gabriel sounding the call" it was all so beautiful...there are "no mere mortal words to describe it all"! It is really hard for people to tell me there is no "rapture" especially since...I had never read a Bible when I saw all that stuff!" excl.gif And, yet I saw the words that were written some two thousand years ago..come to life! It was glorious! AMEN! I can't believe I shared that, never have before, maybe a piece or two, but "not all"! happy.gif

Well, this thread did take a "Heavenly turn" didn't it? biggrin.gif Love it when God does that, amen! wub.gif to all, your sis, hannah 1dsz5h3.gif and 1dsz5e4.gif everyone! smile.gif
Jack Lavictoire
QUOTE(hannah fievel @ Oct 18 2006, 10:07 PM) [snapback]88497[/snapback]

Okay, senteami, I'll be "bold" and unafraid to share...I saw "families of glowing lights in circles acsending into the heavens", but those "left behind" could not see them, they could only see "HIM" standing on the clouds...those "cursed Him for they felt they had been cheated", sad but true! And, not only did "I hear the Shofar blow...I saw Gabriel sounding the call" it was all so beautiful...there are "no mere mortal words to describe it all"! It is really hard for people to tell me there is no "rapture" especially since...I had never read a Bible when I saw all that stuff!" excl.gif And, yet I saw the words that were written some two thousand years ago..come to life! It was glorious! AMEN! I can't believe I shared that, never have before, maybe a piece or two, but "not all"! happy.gif

Well, this thread did take a "Heavenly turn" didn't it? biggrin.gif Love it when God does that, amen! wub.gif to all, your sis, hannah 1dsz5h3.gif and 1dsz5e4.gif everyone! smile.gif


A lot of people have seen wonderful things and yet don’t understand them.
Also, a lot of these people read God’s word and think that they understand what they saw when in fact they don’t. If your theology doesn’t line up with God’s word your in error and therefore don’t understand what you’ve seen.

Let me add that I read a large number of your posts and you don’t come across as someone who handles the word of truth properly.

If anyone want’s to find out when the "rapture" takes place read Revelation chapter 20 and keep in mind that the scriptures tell us that we’ll not precede those who have fallen asleep (Their bodies). What you’ll find is that the antichrist is putting God’s people to death for not taking the mark and bang – the first resurrection takes place! In keeping with scriptures, then we who are left will be “raptured” and thus be with the Lord Jesus forever more...

You should have posted this in the "(Not Interpreted) Dreams and Visions" area of the forum since you obviously haven’t interpreted what you’ve seen properly.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (New International Version)
Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.


1 Thessalonians 4:15 (New International Version)
According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.

Revelation 20:4-6 (New International Version)
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.


First comes the resurrection and then comes the gathering, or if you prefer, the rapture.
Not the other way around.

Try to line up your interpretations with His word! cool.gif
Miki
This isn't about the timing of the rapture Jack. It's about what Christ has done in the lives of hungry souls.

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jhamner
Amen, Miki. Let's talk about what God has done for us- in order to SAVE the LOST. No debates... please.
hannah fievel
QUOTE(jhamner @ Oct 19 2006, 08:22 AM) [snapback]88533[/snapback]

Amen, Miki. Let's talk about what God has done for us- in order to SAVE the LOST. No debates... please.


Thank you Miki for your defense of what I saw...I never expect "everyone" to think like me...that was just what I saw before I read the word. smile.gif Did I make it all up for Jack's enjoyment and for him to debate with...NO! blush.gif It was as real as the word was "after I read it all"! So thanks again!

And, no I didn't write that for debate, but for encouragement, AMEN! smile.gif And, jhamner....Good point....this thread turned into something for the Lord, and I pray the enemy's hands off it! We are "honoring and uplifting" each other with words to inspire, not blow out lights! in His love for His children, your sis, hannah smile.gif


Jack Lavictoire
QUOTE(hannah fievel @ Oct 19 2006, 09:08 AM) [snapback]88541[/snapback]

Did I make it all up for Jack's enjoyment and for him to debate with...NO! blush.gif


I didn’t mean to cut in on your discussion but when ever I hear someone give an un-proper interpretation of what they’ve seen I’m moved to try to correct them. If not for their sake, for the sake of the readers.

There’s a school of thought out there that says that there are no absolutes. That no one can be 100% sure of anything, and I for one don’t subscribe to it.

In any case, while my God has me on this earth I’ll try to defend His word. I agree that I don’t always go about it the right way, but you can be sure that I’m doing it out of passion.

If I offended you I apologize, however, if you were offended by the truth (Word of God) then I obviously have nothing to apologize for.

Hope that helps to clear that up.

hannah fievel
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I didn’t mean to cut in on your discussion but when ever I hear someone give an un-proper interpretation of what they’ve seen I’m moved to try to correct them. If not for their sake, for the sake of the readers.


This was a point I tried to make on another thread...How do you know "FOR SURE" your interpretation correct?

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There’s a school of thought out there that says that there are no absolutes. That no one can be 100% sure of anything, and I for one don’t subscribe to it.

In any case, while my God has me on this earth I’ll try to defend His word. I agree that I don’t always go about it the right way, but you can be sure that I’m doing it out of passion.

If I offended you I apologize, however, if you were offended by the truth (Word of God) then I obviously have nothing to apologize for.


I was totally not offended by HIS truth, ever, but your truth, and you are 100% sure your right? I dunno, you are totally by His grace and mercy allowed to think as you do, and that is "all good with me"...but hey, I am allowed too...that is to have "a thought" or even a vision "BEFORE I READ THE BIBLE"! Nothing I saw was not in the Bible! blush.gif

BTW, here's testimony as to "How much He does love us"....I was for a time involved in the new age crap...well through "many trials" and horrors I cannot tell of blush.gif It didn't matter a lick to HIM....He totally pulled me out of the fire and into HIS loving arms...even though I fell totally off His path...HE IS FULL OF GRACE, MERCY AND COMPASSION for us all....HE LOVES US...even when we fail miserably! 1dsz5e4.gif AMEN! So, back to awesome testimonies of how He called us and how He has saved us from ourselves and brought us into HIS KINGDOM, which is at hand, amen. in His wub.gif , your sis, hannah biggrin.gif


+Shine4Him+
I loved reading this thread and hearing about people from other backgrounds, who God had called from darkness.

Islam, I think God has drawn you here and he is wishing to draw you further, he is wanting to be your heavenly father.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2mn86HdQFY...feature=related

He loves you deeply.
I pray that your eyes will be opened and that the truth (which will be very different to anything you have been taught before) will set you free.

Hannah, I loved reading your testimony, thanks for sharing it. I feel so sad you parents drugged you and sent you to the hospital but it looks like what the enemy meant for evil, God used for good. <<<<hugs>>>>
IAMlives
QUOTE (Miki @ Sep 28 2006, 05:25 PM) *
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/5591/testimony.htm

I was born to Muslim parents, and I'm a descendent of 'ALI IBN ABU TALIB the cousin
of Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, and the fourth Caliph (i.e., "ruler").

At an early age, I was one of the Muslims believers who performed all of the
religious duties, from praying to fasting and everything in between. I was
planning to be an Imam of a mosque, like my grandfather. I started to study
the Fiqh and the Quran (Islamic sacred scripture), but after some time, I felt
bored reading similar books and essays. I recognised that there are a lot
of differences in Islam. For instance, in Iraq (my country), there are a
lot of Shia, and it was strange for a Sunni like me to know that there
was someone different from his faith but claiming to be Muslim, so I
decided to study the various Islamic schools of thought.

After a lot of reading in this field, I become more familiar with Mu'tazilah
than any other school of thought. Mu'tazilah is more reasonable than the
rest of the schools, in the sense that it involves argumentation and philosophy.

I began to be open-minded for the first time in my life. Gradually, I
decided to study other religions. I tried to preach the Quran, starting in
Da'wa (i.e, evangelizm) with some young Christians, using my good knowledge of the
argumentative tools, and I created many faith problems for them. Because of this,
their families appealed to the priest of their church and asked him to invite me
to visit him.

Arguing with him was very difficult for me because he always answered all my
doubting questions. After I had known him a year, he died, but he had changed
a lot of my thoughts about Christianity. However, I still didn't believe in it.

After this, I started to see Islam with new eyes, seeing the contradictions in
it, studying it in comparison to Christianity.

One night in a dream, I saw a vision of a man with a beard talking to me:

"Son", he asked me, "why do you attack my sheep?"
I replied, "Who are you sir?"
He answered, "Jesus Christ"
So, I answered his question, "I'm not attacking your sheep, sir, I'm trying
to bring your lost sheep back to the straight path."
He said, "You are the one who is lost; I'm the straight path."

I woke up asking myself a number of questions: Did I really see Jesus? He
said that I'm lost. What did he mean? Does that mean that the Christian is
right and that I'm on the wrong path? But it was only a dream. Still,
Mohammed said in one of his Hadith that if you see a prophet in a dream, you
see him truly because Satan could not act like a prophet in a vision. Obey him,
and follow what he says. That is what Mohammed said.

After some time being a little confused, I left the two religions and became
a non-believer.

Around that time, my father (a high-ranking officer) died in a car
accident, which we assumed was a natural accident. So, I kept carrying on
with my life, and because I had inherited from my father a good fortune, I
was able to do a lot of wicked things-wasting money on sex, alcohol, drugs,
whatever I could find for pleasure.

After a period of time, I heard again a voice (which I knew was
Jesus's voice), saying, "Run away from your country NOW!"

This voice was firm with me, so I woke up, I bagged my things, and in a few
hours, I was outside Iraq and heading for my mother's home in another
Arabic country.

When I was in the airplane (that was 1990, and Iraq was not under the
siege), I began to doubt my actions and started to blame myself for the
stupid thing I was doing. But then, I told myself, "Well, let's have an
early vacation. I can at least thank Jesus for that". And I smiled at the
evil thoughts about what I was going to do for pleasure on my trip.

When I landed in the Arabic country that I was travelling to, I went to my
grandfather's house. There, I called my mother back in Iraq saying, "Mom,
don't worry-I'm visiting here for a while, and then, I'll return home".

She replied, "Don't ever think about coming back-there was a police unit
seeking you!"

Knowing that I had never broken the law or even been involved in any
political opposition, I answered in shock, "What??!! What you are talking
about?!"

She said, "They were seeking some military documents that they think that your
father hid, and for this (they had told her), he was assassinated. Thank
God that you left-they thought that you had the documents. They took your
brothers (from another mother), too, to investigate them".

[Note: My mother was protected during all of this because she was an Arabic
journalist working with her country's embassy, so nobody could hurt her or
arrest her for investigation without permission from the ministry of
foreign affairs.]

I was shocked. I felt dizzy. I could not imagine what would happen! But if
I were there in Iraq, they would torture me to confess what I had not done,
and maybe they would kill me. What an unexpected danger I had escaped from!
I had never imagined that I would have to flee for my life. I had never had
a thought that I could ever be in such danger.

Who could have known such a future for me?! God alone could have known it!
So, was Jesus God?!! I really became confused, shocked, dizzy, and-in this
condition-passed out. After a few hours, I woke up from my comatose state,
and I start to pray to God, sincerely asking Him to show me the way, the
truth.

After that, I dreamed again of Jesus, and he said to me, "I love you. Why
you don't love me likewise? Come to me because I have a plan for you". I
woke up crying. He was looking for me, and I was trying to escape from him.
He wanted me to be with him, and I was not. He had saved me from the hands
of the Iraqi torture machine, so I told him, "I'm coming to you, Jesus,
even if this costs me my life".

At that moment, He entered my life, and become my Lord and Saviour. I really
was washed in His pure blood, becoming another person, one reborn in His grace.

Local Christian churches refused to help me at first, and for a period of
time, I felt that I was very alone and that only God was with me.

The only real worry that I had, however, was about my means of living, for
I had left my wealth behind me, and unfortunately for me, the Iraqi
authorities had confiscated all my property.

But the Lord showed me that I couldn't rely upon material wealth anyway,
for a few months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the Iraqi Dinar, which was
officially 3 dollars and in the black market merely 30 cents, fell
enormously in value. Most of the wealth that I had inherited from my father
had been in Iraqi currency, and I had it in the bank while I was living
in Iraq. If I had still been living in Iraq during the Gulf crisis, then
instead of having $800,000, I would have had only $800!! Thanks be to Jesus
for showing me that I can only depend upon him, not upon worldly things.
From this, I derive comfort.

After a long period of time in my mother's country, where I was witnessing
for Jesus, extremist Islamic groups there discovered my apostasy from
Islam. They held a faith court about me, and commanded me to repent and
renew my faith in Islam, or they would kill me for being a Murttad (i.e.,
"apostate"). They gave me 2 days to make my decision.

I tried to go to the police for protection, but the police arrested me for
inciting activities against Islam and disturbing community security. They
put me in jail and started to investigate me, asking about other converts
and about missionaries. I was lucky that I had not been baptized yet
because they emphasised the following questions: "Have you ever been
baptized?!" "Who baptized you?!" "Which church do you attend?!" "Who
evangelized you?!".

My being a foreigner helped me, for they eventually released me and
commanded me to leave the county, giving me only a very short period in
which to do so. God provided me a visa to an Eastern European country, and
I left my mother's country within the time they had demanded.

Now I live in the USA.


Miki,
I have so much compassion for the Iraqi people and all they have endured. sad.gif What about your relatives, are they still living there? Your testimony is remarkable and beautifully shows our Savior's lovingkindness...thanks so much for sharing.

I pray for you and yours Miki, that you all remain protected by our Lord and all your relatives receive salvation as well.

God bless you,
Kim


damo7
QUOTE (Islam @ Oct 16 2006, 04:00 PM) *
even though very well written, unfortanetly its not true. the man says he works in the site answering islam yet the site clearly makes deliberate lies against the prophet Mohammed no ex Muslim would do. For ex they say he had a sex slave called Maria, they lied and still do, she was his wife! All Muslims know that, why would he deliberately lie? I know lying isnt allowed in Christianity.
anyone can write an article and say i converted from so and so to so and so. Ive never saw a Muslim on tv say i converted to christianity, yet daily we see tdens of christians converting to islam. 50,000 americans in 2003 only. Plus these books of ex jihadist or terrorists who converted to christianity, what makes you so sure they actually arent written by Christians?

Maybe you folks could help me.


"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs." - 4:171



Are you still hear Islam ?

the book or koran is seen as the book of war and its also seen as the hand book for terrosiem


mohammad was a mad man Islam very simple facts and when you have brothers who have given their testimonys saying how jesus turned their lives around you find it hard to believe islam but want us to respect your religon and want us to see mohammed as a true prophet which i wil not agree by what you are leaving in this forum


if you want to share your views go to a catholic forum since the catholic church has oppened up a forum on line were catholics and muslims can share openely you wil feel more at home on this false forum


i too can say i use to mock god once islam i am also from a war torn country islam and it was the serbs that were killing of the muslims in Bosnia not us croations but its amazing how you muslims like to lay the blame on us croations to were you hate us

also get your facts right before comming on a christian forum and saying these men could be christians

the serbians were also trying to wipe us croations out islam the reason they could not do this islam is simple we stood our ground and faught back we showed the serbians what a croation can do


when god convicted me i nearly killed a drug dealer i did not want to let go of this drug dealer i wanted to end his life god simply showed me how power full he is he convicted me in a red neck country town were the police officer did not do a thing i found out he was catholic he wanted me to end his life he said he would have turned a blind eye and would have not aressted me he questioned me and said why did i pull back to were i saw tears comming down the side of your face and it was not just him drilling me i was a stranger i was no local i only new one person in this red neck country town

my mate stole four dope plants from this dealer who was also a thug he would hit his girlfriend mug old ladys and he would not care he had the cop scared as their was only one cop running this town trying his best to do his job

i had the local publican drill me and a few other farmers everyone wanted me to do the dirty deed for them

i simply said i could not do what i wanted to do something was preventing me from ending this mans life


when i go back to the community and he sees me in the main street he runs and avoids me he no longer acts the thug he thought he once was

god is real islam your book the koran is false islam mohammed is not in heaven he is in hell


i wil pray that god opens your eyes and i will pray that he shows you how power full he is you dont want to mess around with god islam and say he is a flake



God bless from damo
Looking Up
God bless you for your testimony, sister.

My former neighbors were Muslims, and I enjoyed them very much. I used to drive the lady to work, and help her out because she was here staying with her cousins and her baby while she was waiting for her husband to join them. I had a lot of questions about the reality of the Muslim faith, and we would talk often about where we both stood spiritually. She educated me a lot about Islam (they were from Morocco, I think) and about the youth growing up casting off a lot of the stricter teachings and trying to reform their societies, because, just like in our country, the youth of many of those nations are not necessarily in agreement with the older generation and with the hard-line militarists, as they seak peace and prosperity instead of oppression and war. Islam is deeply split, and there are a lot of internal struggles going on that we don't often hear about.

I remember laying hands on the wall between our apartments and praying for them often.

One of her cousins and I would have spirited debates, all good-natured, about Mohammad and Jesus and Abraham and Isaac and Ishmael. He worked at a store down the road, and when I went to shop there, we would always make it a point to say hello to one another. I pray God is using those seeds that were planted back then, and I will always remember them fondly.
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