http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/29/...reut/index.html
Death demanded for Bulgaria nurses
POSTED: 10:08 a.m. EDT, August 29, 2006
TRIPOLI, Libya (Reuters) -- A Libyan prosecutor demanded the death penalty on Tuesday for five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor on trial for infecting more than 400 children with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.
A previous trial of the six ended with their conviction on charges of intentionally infecting 426 children with HIV when they worked in a hospital in Benghazi in the late 1990s

After their convictions in May 2004, President Bush said their lives should be spared and they should be freed.


( Don't know if they are guilty or not, why would anybody do this, and why would the President want them set free?)

Have any of you gotten the pictures from the girlzgroup.com about the caves made from skulls. There has been since the creation of man about 100 billion (100,000,000,000) deaths. During the time of the Egyptians in the bible there was so much death and they tried all they could to preserve these bodies. Even throughout China, Tibet, India, Sudan, etc. there were so many people who died by starvation, disease, and maltreatment. Hitler's holocaust cause millions to die and they were just thrown into pits and buried or burned. I wonder, is that why we have so much disease? We are confining the disease of death to the eastern countries of the world. How in the world do you intentionally infect 426 children with the virus that causes AIDS?
85% of people that die in the US die from visiting the hospital.
No person since 1951 that has died in the US has died from old age.
The major cause of polio in the US was from the vaccine.
That is why those nurses and doctors are innocent, because the children got the disease through the vaccine!

are you saying that there is a conspiracy to kill people with medicine and vaccines? IS there a conspiracy to keep from anybody except Western and European nations from having access to good medical care? my grandparents died of old age, I know, I was there...so I am not sure what you mean that no one dies of old age since the '50's? What do you mean by that? What happened before the '50's? I thought vaccines were developed a lot earlier than that...I've read and heard from people in the gay community that its a new sexual thrill to deliberately infect and to be infected with AIDS...so I guess that is an example of people deliberately spreading disease. AIDS is blood bourne so did it get transmitted by dirty needles or were the children already infected prior to being admitted?

Sorry Gregg but nothing you stated above is true.

85% of people do not die from visiting the hospital. Yes I know, I am the CEO of a Hospital/Nursing Home
I work in a nursing home. I personally know of several individuals who have died of "old age"
The major cause of polio in the US was not caused by the vaccine. That is just bogus
There is no vaccine for HIV so the children did not get the Virus from a non-existent vaccine.


A question for flyingsquirrel. Where did you get the information that President Bush said this?

K.D.

Here are some quotes from the article above:

"Palestinian doctor Ashraf Alhajouj and Bulgarians Snezhana Dimitrova, Nasya Nenova, Valentina Siropolu, Christiana Valcheva and Valia Cherveniashka pleaded not guilty at both trials and have repeatedly testified that they were tortured to make them confess.

Bulgaria and its allies support the medics' torture claims and global AIDS experts say the outbreak at the Benghazi hospital where they worked began before they arrived."

Seems to me that evidence shows from witness's that these doctors and nurses that are accused of the crime may be innocent. The HIV and AIDS aoutbreaks were happening before they were workers here.

"Defense lawyers argued their convictions were based on confessions made under torture."

Again they were tortured to confess to this heinous crime- something that again points they may be innocent and all them were tortured? You would think that guilt alone for such a crime would break at least one out of this group to a confession without torture.

"The Supreme Court sent the case down to a lower court for retrial based on problems with the initial indictments, according to LJBC."

Before the trial was even conducted the indictment of these accused was questionable to begin with. Seems like this case was a a problem all the way around. There is more going on here then just a group of doctors and nurses killing children. Something here that has not been fully exposed.

"Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, who initially accused them of carrying out a CIA and Israeli Mossad plot to destabilize his government by spreading HIV, has said that if the confessions were the result of torture then the convictions should be voided."

Here is the hint that there is more to it then just a group of doctors and nurses that decided to infect and kill hundred of children. That is a very big accusatin to make---but despite his accusation he believes there conviction should be voided because the accused were tortured. If the CIA is involved in this it is pretty telling if it is true though as usual there is no way to pinpoint the truth here since it is an accusation. However, this is a heavy accustion to make and being the Libyan Government leader it may carry more weight behind it. Some kind of experiment that went on behind the scenes and this hospital was a testing facility is a possbility.

CIA has done such sick experiments before in the past even in our own country and many crimes hidden. Just do research in things like MK_ULTRA and the such. Is it any wonder we should be surprised? I know they are conspiracies to some folks but even then it is sad that our own government may have done and are still doing such things.

"A doctor who first discovered the HIV infections testified they started before the nurses arrived in Libya."

It sounds like the HIV infections happened before the accused staff even worked here. Perhaps, they are getting the blame for something they are not resposible for. Again this is repeated in the article showing that the timing of the infections points that someone else is responsible.

"After their convictions in May 2004, President Bush said their lives should be spared and they should be freed."

Well, given that evidence may suggest they are not guilty and CIA may have been involved behind the scenes here. Its probably an attempt for US to save face a little bit because they may be found out. Also, given the fact of torture being conducted does not help the matter. It was not a fair trial for these people and as result it may have brought about false confessions that lead to these people's conviction. It makes sense why Bush would want them set free---because to the world our nation believes in a fair trial; so in sense to save face he is also keeping up appearances like a true politician. Or it may be an attempt to blame America for this act in some way. There simply is not enough information to tell here.

Only God knows their innocence here on the matter. Is it fair to convict a group of people for a crime where the means of confession and the timing of events are questionable? No. However, even if they are pardoned and set free these accused will have to face a destroyed reputation no matter what and likely it is the end of their career whether guilty or innocent.

It is very sad that these poor innocent children have been harmed and murdered. I hope and pray that the truth really is exposed on this. Jesus said that if any harms his little ones its better for them tie a millstone around their neck and drown themselves in the sea. Wow! That is very serious when Jesus said this and He will not hold the muderers guiltless for such acts guaranteed a special judgment for this one when the right time comes.

Krystal

There is not some sort of conspiracy because with a conspiracy there must be a conspirator and a something to conspire with, er, con- means together. People who follow something do not feel that what they follow is wrong if it helps them. And if they are alive today because of a vaccine that they took yesterday, they think that is the thing to do. No matter how many people die from it, if they are alive it helped. If it slows down the death of the population, even better. I got a polio vaccine and no polio, but then how was I to know a dead polio virus might not have been in my vaccine. My sister who was a healthy girl until around 20 did not have polio, but she developed polio after 20. Why has the disease of smallpox, measles, and mumps almost disappeared? I would guess they quit putting a certain strain of virus in the vaccine, because that is what a vaccine is, the dead virus.

With aids, I don't exactly know what the virus is other than I know how it is transmitted. And aids is not a bloodborne pathogen except by the blood of the infected one. It started in the regions of Africa and young men and girls wanting to remain virgin. The infection spread by the bite of the mosquito. Heterosexual males and especially homosexual males by their sexual partners and the infection of herpes and gonhorrea combined with the mixture of . . . I'll stop there because the thought is not pretty.

Yes, it could have been the unclean needles used by the nurses to vaccinate the patients, but one of the patients had to have the disease passed on to it by the parent. If the disease is not present, it cannot be transmitted.

About the old age; I read that yesterday in the latest Popular Science magazine.
I'll check to see if they put it on the web.

About good medical care. Broken bones is one thing, but the prevalence of disease is another. Broken bones are caused by error and diseases are caused by death. The first murder was Abel and his blood cried out from the ground. It was spilled blood and the life in the blood cried. Blood is made up a few things and the mixture of the blood with anything gives life to that which it mixes with. We know that the earth gives life to the seed that falls to it and we are told that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. So Abel became our first sacrifice and gave life to the earth.

We followed the sacrifice of Abel until the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.

The curse of Cain is true because the earth no longer yields what we need but the blood of Christ was not spilled on the earth so we must be born again through the water and Spirit.

Let me go and eat. I'll be back.