The Muslim community declares victory in Hezballah.
I got news for them: The infrastructure of Libanon is a mess, children and women died, what kind of victory do they have in that????
Irans' dictator declared victory, Syria declared victory, victory in WHAT????
Israel still exists, and Hezballah is just lucky that Coffee Anon managed to get a cease fire to go through. Israel would have wipe Hezballah off the map is they could have continued to push further into Lebanon.
There's only Victory in Jesus.
And now we watch Ahmadinejad to pick a fight with the US.
Full Version: Victory In Hezballah?
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http://www.JewishWorldReview.com : Last week, the Bush Administration sent profoundly mixed signals about its attitude towards the War for the Free World and the enemies who threaten us and other freedom-loving peoples.
On the one hand, there was the President's commendable reaction to the murderous plot to destroy as many as ten passenger aircraft bound from Britain to the United States. Mr. Bush correctly, and courageously, declared that "We are at war with Islamic fascists."
This is not the first time President Bush has used such a formulation but the timing of this statement — coming as it did amidst intense media and public interest in the breaking story out of the UK — caused his characterization of our foes as Islamic fascists to receive considerable attention. It also prompted the "usual suspects" (organizations like the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR) to rush forth to denounce such a clear and accurate depiction of the totalitarian character and political agenda of our enemies.
Although his critics accused the President of misrepresentation, it was they who engaged in such a practice. For example, CAIR falsely charged that he had "equated the religion of peace [Islam] with the ugliness of fascism." In fact, Mr. Bush did something altogether different — and laudable: He made clear that those who use Islam to justify and provide political cover for their totalitarian aggression are at odds not only with America but with Islam, itself.
Such dangerous ideologues cannot be appeased. They must be destroyed.
Unfortunately, at virtually the same moment that Mr. Bush was helpfully clarifying what we are up against, his subordinates were busily handing Islamic fascists their greatest victory since they drove the United States out of Somalia in March 1994: an artificial and unsustainable ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon.
The content and timing of the UN Security Council resolution adopted unanimously last Friday represent a defeat for the Free World — most especially the United States and Israel — and will protect and greatly embolden their Islamofascist foes, Hezbollah and its sponsors, Iran and Syria. My brilliant colleague, Center for Security Policy Fellow Caroline Glick, has enumerated the reasons why in a powerful condemnation in Sunday's Jerusalem Post. Among them are the following:
"…In practice, [the resolution] makes it all but impossible for Israel to defend itself against Hezbollah aggression without being exposed to international condemnation on an unprecedented scale."
"…The resolution places responsibility for determining compliance in the hands of UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Annan has distinguished himself as a man capable only of condemning Israel for its acts of self-defense, while ignoring the fact that in attacking Israel, its enemies are guilty of war crimes. By empowering Annan to evaluate compliance, the resolution all but ensures that Hezbollah will not be forced to disarm and that Israel will be forced to give up the right to defend itself."
"The resolution makes absolutely no mention of either Syria or Iran, without whose support Hezbollah could neither exist nor wage an illegal war against Israel. In so ignoring Hezbollah's sponsors, it ignores the regional aspect of the current war and sends the message to these two states that they may continue to equip terrorist armies in Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority and Iraq with the latest weaponry without paying a price for their aggression."
"[The new Security Council resolution] puts both the question of an arms embargo and Hezbollah's dismantlement off to some future date when Israel and Lebanon agree to the terms of a 'permanent cease-fire.' In addition, it places the power to oversee an arms embargo against Hezbollah in the hands of the Lebanese government, of which Hezbollah is a member."
"From a U.S. perspective, the resolution drastically increases the threat of a radical Shi'ite revolt in Iraq. Hezbollah is intimately tied to Iraqi Shi'ite terrorist Muqtada al-Sadr. In April 2003, Hezbullah opened offices in southern Iraq and was instrumental in training the Mahdi Army, which Sadr leads. During a demonstration in Baghdad last week, Sadr's followers demanded that he consider them an extension of Hezbollah, and expressed a genuine desire to participate in Hezbollah's war against the U.S. and Israel."
President Bush is to be commended for his effort to make plain the danger posed by Islamofascists. By so doing he has also implicitly underscored the imperative of waging this war on the ideological level — what Donald Rumsfeld has called the "battle of ideas." For far too long, America has done far too little to fight and win on this front of the War for the Free World. We can no longer afford to do so.
On the one hand, there was the President's commendable reaction to the murderous plot to destroy as many as ten passenger aircraft bound from Britain to the United States. Mr. Bush correctly, and courageously, declared that "We are at war with Islamic fascists."
This is not the first time President Bush has used such a formulation but the timing of this statement — coming as it did amidst intense media and public interest in the breaking story out of the UK — caused his characterization of our foes as Islamic fascists to receive considerable attention. It also prompted the "usual suspects" (organizations like the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR) to rush forth to denounce such a clear and accurate depiction of the totalitarian character and political agenda of our enemies.
Although his critics accused the President of misrepresentation, it was they who engaged in such a practice. For example, CAIR falsely charged that he had "equated the religion of peace [Islam] with the ugliness of fascism." In fact, Mr. Bush did something altogether different — and laudable: He made clear that those who use Islam to justify and provide political cover for their totalitarian aggression are at odds not only with America but with Islam, itself.
Such dangerous ideologues cannot be appeased. They must be destroyed.
Unfortunately, at virtually the same moment that Mr. Bush was helpfully clarifying what we are up against, his subordinates were busily handing Islamic fascists their greatest victory since they drove the United States out of Somalia in March 1994: an artificial and unsustainable ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon.
The content and timing of the UN Security Council resolution adopted unanimously last Friday represent a defeat for the Free World — most especially the United States and Israel — and will protect and greatly embolden their Islamofascist foes, Hezbollah and its sponsors, Iran and Syria. My brilliant colleague, Center for Security Policy Fellow Caroline Glick, has enumerated the reasons why in a powerful condemnation in Sunday's Jerusalem Post. Among them are the following:
"…In practice, [the resolution] makes it all but impossible for Israel to defend itself against Hezbollah aggression without being exposed to international condemnation on an unprecedented scale."
"…The resolution places responsibility for determining compliance in the hands of UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Annan has distinguished himself as a man capable only of condemning Israel for its acts of self-defense, while ignoring the fact that in attacking Israel, its enemies are guilty of war crimes. By empowering Annan to evaluate compliance, the resolution all but ensures that Hezbollah will not be forced to disarm and that Israel will be forced to give up the right to defend itself."
"The resolution makes absolutely no mention of either Syria or Iran, without whose support Hezbollah could neither exist nor wage an illegal war against Israel. In so ignoring Hezbollah's sponsors, it ignores the regional aspect of the current war and sends the message to these two states that they may continue to equip terrorist armies in Lebanon, the Palestinian Authority and Iraq with the latest weaponry without paying a price for their aggression."
"[The new Security Council resolution] puts both the question of an arms embargo and Hezbollah's dismantlement off to some future date when Israel and Lebanon agree to the terms of a 'permanent cease-fire.' In addition, it places the power to oversee an arms embargo against Hezbollah in the hands of the Lebanese government, of which Hezbollah is a member."
"From a U.S. perspective, the resolution drastically increases the threat of a radical Shi'ite revolt in Iraq. Hezbollah is intimately tied to Iraqi Shi'ite terrorist Muqtada al-Sadr. In April 2003, Hezbullah opened offices in southern Iraq and was instrumental in training the Mahdi Army, which Sadr leads. During a demonstration in Baghdad last week, Sadr's followers demanded that he consider them an extension of Hezbollah, and expressed a genuine desire to participate in Hezbollah's war against the U.S. and Israel."
President Bush is to be commended for his effort to make plain the danger posed by Islamofascists. By so doing he has also implicitly underscored the imperative of waging this war on the ideological level — what Donald Rumsfeld has called the "battle of ideas." For far too long, America has done far too little to fight and win on this front of the War for the Free World. We can no longer afford to do so.
End of Quote
Debka
Iran and Syria applaud 'victory'.
Displaced Lebanese are returning, but many homes no longer exist.
Syria and Iran have praised Hezbollah for what both describe as the group's defeat of Israel in Lebanon.
Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad hailed the "glorious battle". Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Hezbollah had thwarted US plans to dominate the Middle East.
The comments came as the ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah continued to hold, despite sporadic violence.
On Tuesday the Israeli army shot five Hezbollah fighters in two incidents in south Lebanon, killing at least three.
The Israelis say they acted in self-defence.
Jubilant mood
Both Syria and Iran are long-time allies of Hezbollah.
Mr Assad, speaking in Damascus a day after the UN-brokered ceasefire took effect, was giving his first speech on the crisis since it began more than a month ago.
God's promises have come true
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Iranian president
Excerpts: Assad speech
He said Israel had been defeated and Hezbollah had "hoisted the banner of victory", following the month-long conflict.
He added that peace in the Middle East was not possible with the Bush administration in power in Washington.
"This is an administration that adopts the principle of pre-emptive war that is absolutely contradictory to the principle of peace," he said.
"Consequently, we don't expect peace soon or in the foreseeable future."
The defiant speech is the clearest sign of how US opponents in the Middle East have been emboldened by the outcome of the conflict, says the BBC's Jon Leyne in Damascus.
IMPACT: 34 DAYS OF FIGHTING
Lebanon deaths:
About 1,000 - mostly civilians
No precise data on Hezbollah dead
Israeli deaths:
Soldiers: 114 (IDF)
Civilians: 43 (IDF)
Lebanon displaced:
700,000 - 900,000 (UNHCR; Lebanese govt)
Israeli displaced:
500,000 (Human Rights Watch)
Lebanon damage:
$2.5bn (Lebanese govt)
Israel damage:
$1.1bn (Israeli govt)
'Blame war' looms for leaders
Israeli press turns on Olmert
Mr Assad said there was no more need for defeatism among Arabs - a feeling echoed across the Arab world, our correspondent adds.
In Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad said Hezbollah had foiled plans to forge a Middle East dominated by "the US, Britain and Zionists".
"God's promises have come true," he told a cheering crowd in the north-western city of Arbadil.
"On one side, it's corrupt powers.... with modern bombs and planes. And on the other side is a group of pious youth relying on God."
As Lebanese refugees continued to pour back to their homes on Tuesday, their government said it was ready to move forward with its part in securing the ceasefire.
Defence Minister Elias Murr said that by the end of the week, the Lebanese army would deploy 15,000 troops on the boundaries of the southern Litani River, some 30km (18 miles) from the border with Israel.
In the meantime, international troops currently in Lebanon would assume positions vacated by the Israeli army before handing them over to the Lebanese.
He said it was not the job of the Lebanese army to disarm Hezbollah fighters but he was confident they would withdraw from areas in southern Lebanon as the troops moved in.
In Israel, army officers said they expected to start giving up captured Hezbollah positions in southern Lebanon within a day or two.
Overnight, Israeli troops left the southern Christian town of Marjayoun, Lebanese security sources said.
Israel's army said Hezbollah militants fired several mortars southwards overnight but it did not respond as none landed over the border and no-one was injured.
French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy is travelling to Lebanon to discuss the proposed deployment of an expanded United Nations force, in which France is expected to play a key role.
Meanwhile, the presidents of US and Iran have blamed each other for fuelling the crisis.
US President George W Bush accused Iran of backing armed groups in Lebanon and Iraq "in the hope of stopping democracy from taking hold".
Iran's president blamed Washington for providing Israel with weapons which he said had been used to target women and children in Lebanon.
Iran and Syria applaud 'victory'.
Displaced Lebanese are returning, but many homes no longer exist.
Syria and Iran have praised Hezbollah for what both describe as the group's defeat of Israel in Lebanon.
Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad hailed the "glorious battle". Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Hezbollah had thwarted US plans to dominate the Middle East.
The comments came as the ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah continued to hold, despite sporadic violence.
On Tuesday the Israeli army shot five Hezbollah fighters in two incidents in south Lebanon, killing at least three.
The Israelis say they acted in self-defence.
Jubilant mood
Both Syria and Iran are long-time allies of Hezbollah.
Mr Assad, speaking in Damascus a day after the UN-brokered ceasefire took effect, was giving his first speech on the crisis since it began more than a month ago.
God's promises have come true
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Iranian president
Excerpts: Assad speech
He said Israel had been defeated and Hezbollah had "hoisted the banner of victory", following the month-long conflict.
He added that peace in the Middle East was not possible with the Bush administration in power in Washington.
"This is an administration that adopts the principle of pre-emptive war that is absolutely contradictory to the principle of peace," he said.
"Consequently, we don't expect peace soon or in the foreseeable future."
The defiant speech is the clearest sign of how US opponents in the Middle East have been emboldened by the outcome of the conflict, says the BBC's Jon Leyne in Damascus.
IMPACT: 34 DAYS OF FIGHTING
Lebanon deaths:
About 1,000 - mostly civilians
No precise data on Hezbollah dead
Israeli deaths:
Soldiers: 114 (IDF)
Civilians: 43 (IDF)
Lebanon displaced:
700,000 - 900,000 (UNHCR; Lebanese govt)
Israeli displaced:
500,000 (Human Rights Watch)
Lebanon damage:
$2.5bn (Lebanese govt)
Israel damage:
$1.1bn (Israeli govt)
'Blame war' looms for leaders
Israeli press turns on Olmert
Mr Assad said there was no more need for defeatism among Arabs - a feeling echoed across the Arab world, our correspondent adds.
In Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad said Hezbollah had foiled plans to forge a Middle East dominated by "the US, Britain and Zionists".
"God's promises have come true," he told a cheering crowd in the north-western city of Arbadil.
"On one side, it's corrupt powers.... with modern bombs and planes. And on the other side is a group of pious youth relying on God."
As Lebanese refugees continued to pour back to their homes on Tuesday, their government said it was ready to move forward with its part in securing the ceasefire.
Defence Minister Elias Murr said that by the end of the week, the Lebanese army would deploy 15,000 troops on the boundaries of the southern Litani River, some 30km (18 miles) from the border with Israel.
In the meantime, international troops currently in Lebanon would assume positions vacated by the Israeli army before handing them over to the Lebanese.
He said it was not the job of the Lebanese army to disarm Hezbollah fighters but he was confident they would withdraw from areas in southern Lebanon as the troops moved in.
In Israel, army officers said they expected to start giving up captured Hezbollah positions in southern Lebanon within a day or two.
Overnight, Israeli troops left the southern Christian town of Marjayoun, Lebanese security sources said.
Israel's army said Hezbollah militants fired several mortars southwards overnight but it did not respond as none landed over the border and no-one was injured.
French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy is travelling to Lebanon to discuss the proposed deployment of an expanded United Nations force, in which France is expected to play a key role.
Meanwhile, the presidents of US and Iran have blamed each other for fuelling the crisis.
US President George W Bush accused Iran of backing armed groups in Lebanon and Iraq "in the hope of stopping democracy from taking hold".
Iran's president blamed Washington for providing Israel with weapons which he said had been used to target women and children in Lebanon.
lol 
Amenijabidad.
He cannot kill a soul. Let him go and do what he has planned to do. He can destroy all he wants to destroy. Don't y'all see! When he has destroyed all he can on this earth, he has won the whole earth and then he will be given the whole earth; nothing will be left!
What is it if you gain the whole world and lose your own soul!
Amenijabidad.He cannot kill a soul. Let him go and do what he has planned to do. He can destroy all he wants to destroy. Don't y'all see! When he has destroyed all he can on this earth, he has won the whole earth and then he will be given the whole earth; nothing will be left!
What is it if you gain the whole world and lose your own soul!
gregg,
You went straight to the bottom line. I can't be certain that this guy is the coming man of lawlessness, but he will be very much like him by what he says and does. And when he does rise to the forefront he will do just exactly what you have stated. The beast will come up out of the abyss and possess the little horn, cause great destruction on the earth, rule for 1,260 days, and then it will be lake of fire time for him for his own destruction.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition
You went straight to the bottom line. I can't be certain that this guy is the coming man of lawlessness, but he will be very much like him by what he says and does. And when he does rise to the forefront he will do just exactly what you have stated. The beast will come up out of the abyss and possess the little horn, cause great destruction on the earth, rule for 1,260 days, and then it will be lake of fire time for him for his own destruction.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition
Praise God Almighty, maker of heaven and earth!
Have you noticed how he is suddenly making himself available?
60 minutes and Dan Rather! Come on.
All for the sake of his coming plan...yuk...Like Saddam l can't stand to watch him and don't.
60 minutes and Dan Rather! Come on.
All for the sake of his coming plan...yuk...Like Saddam l can't stand to watch him and don't.
Such dangerous ideologues cannot be appeased. They must be destroyed.
Greetings all:
I've taken this quote out of context in the previous posting to make a point. I wholeheartedly agree with this quote and like to add something to it. The only way such follious ideologues can be destroyed, in my humble opinion, is by the very word of God and/or by the Sword of God, if I may be so bolden to add that as well.
Sincerely yours,
Wendy
Greetings all:
I've taken this quote out of context in the previous posting to make a point. I wholeheartedly agree with this quote and like to add something to it. The only way such follious ideologues can be destroyed, in my humble opinion, is by the very word of God and/or by the Sword of God, if I may be so bolden to add that as well.
Sincerely yours,
Wendy
QUOTE(Flogi @ Aug 15 2006, 01:43 PM) [snapback]79208[/snapback]
The Muslim community declares victory in Hezballah.
I got news for them: The infrastructure of Libanon is a mess, children and women died, what kind of victory do they have in that????
Irans' dictator declared victory, Syria declared victory, victory in WHAT????
Israel still exists, and Hezballah is just lucky that Coffee Anon managed to get a cease fire to go through. Israel would have wipe Hezballah off the map is they could have continued to push further into Lebanon.
There's only Victory in Jesus.
And now we watch Ahmadinejad to pick a fight with the US.
Yes the rhetoric of war and post war would be hillarious if it were not for the extremity of it all. A country is ravished, multiplied hundreds killed, lives ruined, infrastructure set back to the stone age, tourism destroyed etc. etc. But that is only the host countries (Lebanon's) problem. Hezzbollah takes credit for standing and leaning but not falling entirely, maintaining strength which is "artificially" maintained by Iran and Syria. (Let's face it..that is who Israel was fighting through Hezbollah)
Hezbollah gets to look good and to look credible because they help feed the refugees. Lebanon pretends they are not an active participant in it all and Bush has said that anyone who hosts or abetts a terrorist organization in the expression of their attacks is as guilty as the terrorists and will also be taken to task. Unfortunately those are hollow words because of the enormity of the task. When was the last time most of the known world stood against us? All in the name of Allah. I have noticed somehow that there is a great void between the name of Allah and the name of Christ.
It is going to be a most powerful sound and light show when God determines the set time is come to oust the artificial God of all such as these. Perhaps we will all have a front row centre seat.
allGod WILL NOT BE MOCKED! and now is the time they will say where is your God?
I got news for them...for when the KING OF GLORY appears...THEN will they be embarrassed and shamed, for they are so full of their own priade and hate they KNOW NOT HOW TO HUMBLE THEMSELVES>>>BELEIVE ME THAT GOD WILL HUMBLE ALL....then will they fall on their knees and see and hear the TRUE GOD OF ALL the POWERS of HEAVEN AND EARTH....pray for their salvation, that they hear the True and ONLY voice of a Savior who's hands they pierced, whose blood they shed, whose crown THEY SHALL NEVER OWN.
For the Glory of our Savior is with us, and will lead us, and comfort us...
They are cowards setting up their victims and using their own wives and children for a sheild.
But we WHO WAIT ON THE LORD, KNOW THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE RISEN SON OF GOD...and HIS WORD WILL NOT COME BACK VOID.
Take HEED TAKE HEED DAMASCUS, for the Burden of the word of our dear LORD and SAVIOR is WARNING YOU...TO TURN TO HIM AND REPENT OF YOUR FOOLISH WAYS!!!
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that WHOSEVER BELEIVEITH IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
It is GOD's DESIRE THAT NO MAN PERISH, DO you HEAR DO YOU SEE, that GOD IS LOVE...not hate or power of dominion ONE over another, and only through his Grace are we saved for we all have fallen short of the Glory of GOD. He is merciful to those whom show mercy, and forgiving to those who show forgiveness...Get thee down, on your knees and pray for the Salvation of the LORD IS HERE NOW, for the asking...SEEK YE THE FACE OF OUR LORD...PRAY, ASK, RECEIVE...oh GOD you are All powerful and sovereign...and dearly love those whom seek your face.
And the Spirit and the Bride say COME LORD JESUS COME.
GOD'S hook in their jaw...Ezekiel 38.
Aug. 15, 2006 22:11 | Updated Aug. 15, 2006 23:50
Right On: The real blunder in Lebanon
Not since Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait has a Middle Eastern leader made such a grievous strategic mistake, both in underestimating his foe and miscalculating the impact of his own course of action.
Inexperience at the helm combined with hesitation and uncertainty produced an unmitigated fiasco, one that raises serious questions about whether this person is truly fit to lead.
While many might view the above description as referring to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his handling of the war in the north, there is in fact another figure in the region, one to whom it would appear to be even more applicable. And that person is none other than Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Sure, Teheran and its ally in Damascus are no doubt celebrating Israel's agreement to the dubious UN cease-fire. If you listen carefully enough, you can probably still hear them clinking their glasses together as they toast the damage that was done to the Jewish state.
Over the course of a month, their nasty little proxy group in Lebanon managed to fire some 4,000 rockets at Israel, inflict grave damage to its economy and send a third of its populace into bomb shelters. They killed 156 Israelis, wounded more than 3,000 others, and pierced the country's aura of military invincibility.
But at the end of the day, these achievements, if one can call them that, will end up exacting a heavy price from Syria and Iran. Inevitably, the trouble they have stirred up in the region over the past month is bound to boomerang right back at them.
Indeed, by transferring advanced rockets and weaponry to Hizbullah, Teheran and Damascus have just unwittingly proven one of the Bush Administration's central contentions regarding the need for preemptive action against rogue states in the global war on terror.
The two countries have demonstrated that they are ready and willing to share missile systems with a terrorist organization, thus strengthening the case that they must be prevented from obtaining weapons of mass destruction at all costs.
This very point was at the heart of an important speech made by US President George W. Bush last October in which he outlined America's strategy for fighting terror across the globe. Speaking at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington, Bush made clear that, "we're determined to deny weapons of mass destruction to outlaw regimes, and to their terrorist allies who would use them without hesitation."
Furthermore, he stated, "Any government that chooses to be an ally of terror has also chosen to be an enemy of civilization. And the civilized world must hold those regimes to account."
THUS, BY supplying weapons to Hizbullah, Syria and Iran have inadvertently provided concrete evidence for all the world to see of just how dangerous the combination of "outlaw regimes" and their "terrorist allies" can be.
In this respect, Israel is fortunate that the conflict erupted when it did, because had it occurred in another five or ten years, who knows what types of horrific weapons might then have been found in Hizbullah's arsenal.
And so, by inciting the start of hostilities last month in an effort to divert the world's attention from their nuclear program, Iran may actually end up achieving precisely the opposite.
Through their actions, Iran has just made the case, better than the most eloquent of Washington press spokesmen ever could, as to why they pose a grave and immediate threat to the entire free world with their obstinate pursuit of nuclear weapons. And it is this very same argument, which the Iranians have just unwittingly bolstered, that Bush may one day soon choose to make in justifying the need for possible military action against Iran to stop their drive toward nuclear weapons.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull
In other words, to borrow Lenin's phrase, Iran and Syria may have just sold the rope from which they themselves will eventually hang.
Moreover, the violence of the past month has also been an educational process of sorts for both the American and Israeli publics, underlining in very stark terms the danger posed by Iran and Syria.
Their intractable opposition to the West, and their willingness to wreak havoc on Israel and its citizens, only served to highlight their status as a menace that must be tackled as quickly as possible.
So if Bashar Assad and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thought that igniting a war along Israel's northern border would somehow help them to save their own skins, they may soon find out just how sorely mistaken they were.
And, like Saddam, their blundering adventure abroad may yet come back to haunt them sooner than they imagine.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apa...icle%2FShowFull
Aug. 15, 2006 22:11 | Updated Aug. 15, 2006 23:50
Right On: The real blunder in Lebanon
Not since Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait has a Middle Eastern leader made such a grievous strategic mistake, both in underestimating his foe and miscalculating the impact of his own course of action.
Inexperience at the helm combined with hesitation and uncertainty produced an unmitigated fiasco, one that raises serious questions about whether this person is truly fit to lead.
While many might view the above description as referring to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his handling of the war in the north, there is in fact another figure in the region, one to whom it would appear to be even more applicable. And that person is none other than Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Sure, Teheran and its ally in Damascus are no doubt celebrating Israel's agreement to the dubious UN cease-fire. If you listen carefully enough, you can probably still hear them clinking their glasses together as they toast the damage that was done to the Jewish state.
Over the course of a month, their nasty little proxy group in Lebanon managed to fire some 4,000 rockets at Israel, inflict grave damage to its economy and send a third of its populace into bomb shelters. They killed 156 Israelis, wounded more than 3,000 others, and pierced the country's aura of military invincibility.
But at the end of the day, these achievements, if one can call them that, will end up exacting a heavy price from Syria and Iran. Inevitably, the trouble they have stirred up in the region over the past month is bound to boomerang right back at them.
Indeed, by transferring advanced rockets and weaponry to Hizbullah, Teheran and Damascus have just unwittingly proven one of the Bush Administration's central contentions regarding the need for preemptive action against rogue states in the global war on terror.
The two countries have demonstrated that they are ready and willing to share missile systems with a terrorist organization, thus strengthening the case that they must be prevented from obtaining weapons of mass destruction at all costs.
This very point was at the heart of an important speech made by US President George W. Bush last October in which he outlined America's strategy for fighting terror across the globe. Speaking at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington, Bush made clear that, "we're determined to deny weapons of mass destruction to outlaw regimes, and to their terrorist allies who would use them without hesitation."
Furthermore, he stated, "Any government that chooses to be an ally of terror has also chosen to be an enemy of civilization. And the civilized world must hold those regimes to account."
THUS, BY supplying weapons to Hizbullah, Syria and Iran have inadvertently provided concrete evidence for all the world to see of just how dangerous the combination of "outlaw regimes" and their "terrorist allies" can be.
In this respect, Israel is fortunate that the conflict erupted when it did, because had it occurred in another five or ten years, who knows what types of horrific weapons might then have been found in Hizbullah's arsenal.
And so, by inciting the start of hostilities last month in an effort to divert the world's attention from their nuclear program, Iran may actually end up achieving precisely the opposite.
Through their actions, Iran has just made the case, better than the most eloquent of Washington press spokesmen ever could, as to why they pose a grave and immediate threat to the entire free world with their obstinate pursuit of nuclear weapons. And it is this very same argument, which the Iranians have just unwittingly bolstered, that Bush may one day soon choose to make in justifying the need for possible military action against Iran to stop their drive toward nuclear weapons.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull
In other words, to borrow Lenin's phrase, Iran and Syria may have just sold the rope from which they themselves will eventually hang.
Moreover, the violence of the past month has also been an educational process of sorts for both the American and Israeli publics, underlining in very stark terms the danger posed by Iran and Syria.
Their intractable opposition to the West, and their willingness to wreak havoc on Israel and its citizens, only served to highlight their status as a menace that must be tackled as quickly as possible.
So if Bashar Assad and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thought that igniting a war along Israel's northern border would somehow help them to save their own skins, they may soon find out just how sorely mistaken they were.
And, like Saddam, their blundering adventure abroad may yet come back to haunt them sooner than they imagine.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apa...icle%2FShowFull
QUOTE(gregg @ Aug 15 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]79216[/snapback]
lol
Amenijabidad.He cannot kill a soul. Let him go and do what he has planned to do. He can destroy all he wants to destroy. Don't y'all see! When he has destroyed all he can on this earth, he has won the whole earth and then he will be given the whole earth; nothing will be left!
What is it if you gain the whole world and lose your own soul!
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gregg,
You went straight to the bottom line. I can't be certain that this guy is the coming man of lawlessness, but he will be very much like him by what he says and does. And when he does rise to the forefront he will do just exactly what you have stated. The beast will come up out of the abyss and possess the little horn, cause great destruction on the earth, rule for 1,260 days, and then it will be lake of fire time for him for his own destruction.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition
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Miki Yesterday, 05:32 PM Post #7
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Have you noticed how he is suddenly making himself available?
60 minutes and Dan Rather! Come on.
All for the sake of his coming plan...yuk...Like Saddam l can't stand to watch him and don't
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There is just something about this guy. I am not sure what role he plays in the end, but I do know that the way He Looks makes you think something is up!
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Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
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Praise God Almighty, maker of heaven and earth!
Hope Amid Despair?
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q...jE3N2I5ZWE5NWY=
Pessimism is now the conventional wisdom about the wars in the Middle East, and, indeed, it is hard to find any good news in the recent ceasefire.
Syria and Iran stage celebrations as news emerges from the ruins of southern Lebanon revealing just how well-armed Hezbollah was — and how impotent the Lebanese “government” really is. The only suspense remaining is whether the United Nations peacekeeping force or the Lebanese army will prove the most craven in giving Hezbollah a green light to rearm and terrorize.
The old Arab agenda of recapturing “stolen” land has been superseded by a new Islamist jihad that is as fanatical as it is inhuman. The Islamists care not a whit for ground, but only for the abject destruction of the Jewish state and to finish the Holocaust that they claim did not take place. Few of the pundits now clamoring for “engagement” care to recall that Syria probably murdered Rafik Hariri, or that Iran promises to wipe Israel off the map.
The near criminal indifference of the international community is cause for greater depression still. No one says a thing about horrific Arab racism and anti-Semitism that brazenly offer the world pictures of our secretary of State as a primate and constant hate speech of Jews as apes and pigs. And here at home, a celebrity actor, the staff of a failed congresswoman in Georgia, and a crazed Muslim with a gun in Seattle all shout about the evils of the “Jews” — a good cross-section of just how insidious is the growing anti-Semitism.
The globalized media is absolutely discredited after the coverage of Lebanon. Reuters has destroyed its reputation, gained from 150 years of world reporting, by releasing doctored pictures and tolerating staged photo-ops. Almost all the Western media outlets failed to distinguish Lebanese civilian from military casualties — as if the Hezbollah terrorists they never filmed and never interviewed never died.
Indeed, thanks to the unprofessional reporters abroad, and their disingenuous chiefs back home, the world never saw the killers who sent the rockets nor many of their civilian victims on the ground in Israel. Nor did the reporters apprise their audience of the different landscapes in which they worked: candor in Israel might win loud disagreement; truth in Lebanon meant death. It would be as if Reuters, AP, or the New York Times embedded its reporters within the Waffen SS, beaming daily reports back home about the great morale and noble suffering of the Wehrmacht as it advanced into the snowy Ardennes.
There was greater lunacy still. Hezbollah bragged of the deadliness of its antitank rockets purchased with Iranian petrodollars — as if weapons that it can’t fabricate or even maintain are signs of its own expertise.
In the world of southern Lebanon, terrorists celebrate their victory in the ruins of their bombed-out hideouts by setting off fireworks — as if to remind themselves of the fiery spectacle of more Israeli bombs. And then that craziness was topped by the Lebanese defense minister reminding the world that the Lebanese planned to renege on their responsibilities to disarm Hezbollah, whining that if Israel couldn’t do it, how could the Lebanese — as true as it was surreal to confess.
Nasrallah, Assad, and Ahmadinejad blabbered ad nauseam about their newfound sense of “honor” and “pride,” as if they were talking heads in some stale Viagra infomercial. Once more, the pathetic obsession of the Middle East with lost manhood is explicable by a society immersed in gender apartheid, patriarchy, and tribalism. It is as if the Middle East fundamentalist and dysfunctional family has been elevated to the national government, and then its resulting adolescent insecurities are aired for the long-suffering world.
Iran promised relief aid to Hezbollah — and, of course, immediately sent thousands of chadors.
Mike Wallace interviewed Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, pronounced him charming, but never quite got him to explain his promises to wipe Israel off the map, much less his role in the 1979 storming of the American embassy in Tehran, his conversations with the lost imam, or whether Osama bin Laden was ever given sanctuary in Iran. Instead, the fascistic Iranian president proved he’s attuned to left-wing politics inside the United States: Howard Dean-like, he mouthed tired complaints about mythical high American unemployment and our poor health care!
Yet, all is not lost, since lunacy cuts both ways. Iran and Syria unleashed Hezbollah because they were both facing global scrutiny, one over nuclear acquisition and the other over the assassination of Lebanese reformer Rafik Hariri. Those problems won’t go away for either of them — nor, if we persist, will the democratic fervor in Afghanistan and Iraq on their borders.
We still don’t know the extent of the damage that Hezbollah suffered, but it perhaps took casualties ten times the Israelis’ — losses — not to be dismissed even in the asymmetrical laws of postmodern warfare. Hezbollah’s leaders were hiding in embassies and bunkers; Israel’s were not. For all the newfound magnetism of Nasrallah, he brought ruin to his flock, and fright to the Arab establishment around Israel.
A surprised Israel now has a good glimpse of the terrorists’ new way of war, and probably next time will attack the supplier, not the launcher, of the rocketry. And when the Reuters stringers go away, the “civilians” of southern Lebanon, off-camera, might not be so eager to see more real fireworks lighting up their skies — or far-off, pristine Syria and Iran in safety praising the courage of the ruined amid the rubble. Note how Hezbollah already is desperately racing around the craters to assure its homeless constituency that it has enough Iranian cash to buy back lost sympathies.
Even the ceasefire can come back to bite the Islamists and their supporters. Hezbollah won’t be disarmed as promised, much less stay out of Katyusha range of the border. And that defiance will only reveal the impotence of the Lebanese and the U.N., reminding both that they have talked themselves into a corner and now are responsible to keep caged their own pet 7th-century vipers. This can only work to Israel’s favor when the next rockets go off, since no one then will be proposing an “international” solution — although it will be interesting to see whether Jacques Chirac talks of the “nuclear” option once his soldiers begin to be picked off by Hezbollah.
In a larger sense, the foiled London terrorist plot won’t endear either Islamists or their appeasers to millions in the world who face travel delays, cancelled flights, and body searches — on top of paying billions more to the Arab oil producers who in response whine even more in their victimhood.
As the cliché goes: the Middle East needs to wake up and disown Islamic fascism. Otherwise, insidiously the entire world is turning against it, as radical Islam proves to be every bit as frightening an ideology as German Nazism or Soviet Communism — whether this is ascertained from the use of human shields, tribal lynchings and beheadings, Joseph Goebbles-like propaganda, Holocaust-denial, racist rants, or primordial hatred of Jews.
Three years ago no one was talking about profiling at airports. Now the British are exploring how best to do it. Indeed, one of the stranger developments in recent memory is now taking place the world over: Young, Middle-Eastern, Muslim men are eyed and studied by passengers at every airport — even as governments still lecture about the evils of the very profiling that their own millions are doing daily. Muslims can thank al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and an entire culture that won’t condemn terrorism for such ostracism, which only increases with each suicide bomber, human shield, hijacking, kidnapping, and macabre reference to genocide and Jew-killing.
In an amorphous war of self-induced Western restraint, like the present one, truth and moral clarity are as important as military force. This past month, the world of the fascist jihadist and those who tolerate him was once again on display for civilization to fathom. Even the most timid and prone to appeasement in the West are beginning to see that it is becoming a question of “the Islamists or us.”
In this eleventh hour, that is a sort of progress after all.
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