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LoisFaith2000
user posted imageTHE TRUTH ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../ixnewstop.html
The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame
By Michael Leidig and Roya Nikkhah
(Filed: 18/07/2004)

Global warming has finally been explained: the Earth is getting hotter because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the past 1,000 years, according to new research.

A study by Swiss and German scientists suggests that increasing radiation from the sun is responsible for recent global climate changes.

Dr Sami Solanki, the director of the renowned Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Gottingen, Germany, who led the research, said: "The Sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures.

"The Sun is in a changed state. It is brighter than it was a few hundred years ago and this brightening started relatively recently - in the last 100 to 150 years."

Dr Solanki said that the brighter Sun and higher levels of "greenhouse gases", such as carbon dioxide, both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.

Average global temperatures have increased by about 0.2 deg Celsius over the past 20 years and are widely believed to be responsible for new extremes in weather patterns. After pressure from environmentalists, politicians agreed the Kyoto Protocol in 1997, promising to limit greenhouse gas emissions between 2008 and 2012. Britain ratified the protocol in 2002 and said it would cut emissions by 12.5 per cent from 1990 levels.

Globally, 1997, 1998 and 2002 were the hottest years since worldwide weather records were first collated in 1860.

Most scientists agree that greenhouse gases from fossil fuels have contributed to the warming of the planet in the past few decades but have questioned whether a brighter Sun is also responsible for rising temperatures.

To determine the Sun's role in global warming, Dr Solanki's research team measured magnetic zones on the Sun's surface known as sunspots, which are believed to intensify the Sun's energy output.

The team studied sunspot data going back several hundred years. They found that a dearth of sunspots signalled a cold period - which could last up to 50 years - but that over the past century their numbers had increased as the Earth's climate grew steadily warmer. The scientists also compared data from ice samples collected during an expedition to Greenland in 1991. The most recent samples contained the lowest recorded levels of beryllium 10 for more than 1,000 years. Beryllium 10 is a particle created by cosmic rays that decreases in the Earth's atmosphere as the magnetic energy from the Sun increases. Scientists can currently trace beryllium 10 levels back 1,150 years.

Dr Solanki does not know what is causing the Sun to burn brighter now or how long this cycle would last.

He says that the increased solar brightness over the past 20 years has not been enough to cause the observed climate changes but believes that the impact of more intense sunshine on the ozone layer and on cloud cover could be affecting the climate more than the sunlight itself.

Dr Bill Burrows, a climatologist and a member of the Royal Meteorological Society, welcomed Dr Solanki's research. "While the established view remains that the sun cannot be responsible for all the climate changes we have seen in the past 50 years or so, this study is certainly significant," he said.

"It shows that there is enough happening on the solar front to merit further research. Perhaps we are devoting too many resources to correcting human effects on the climate without being sure that we are the major contributor."

Dr David Viner, the senior research scientist at the University of East Anglia's climatic research unit, said the research showed that the sun did have an effect on global warming.

He added, however, that the study also showed that over the past 20 years the number of sunspots had remained roughly constant, while the Earth's temperature had continued to increase.

This suggested that over the past 20 years, human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation had begun to dominate "the natural factors involved in climate change", he said.

Dr Gareth Jones, a climate researcher at the Met Office, said that Dr Solanki's findings were inconclusive because the study had not incorporated other potential climate change factors.

"The Sun's radiance may well have an impact on climate change but it needs to be looked at in conjunction with other factors such as greenhouse gases, sulphate aerosols and volcano activity," he said. The research adds weight to the views of David Bellamy, the conservationist. "Global warming - at least the modern nightmare version - is a myth," he said. "I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy-makers are not.

"Instead, they have an unshakeable faith in what has, unfortunately, become one of the central credos of the environmental movement: humans burn fossil fuels, which release increased levels of carbon dioxide - the principal so-called greenhouse gas - into the atmosphere, causing the atmosphere to heat up. They say this is global warming: I say this is poppycock."
onetiggerroo
Signs in the heavens? It may be just that. The Bible talks about certain things that must come to pass.

Luke 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Matthew 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Acts 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
flyingsquirrel
global worming? You mean warming don't you? Global warming is an increase in global temperatures...Global worming is getting rid of worms....
WhiteKnight
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global worming? You mean warming don't you? Global warming is an increase in global temperatures...Global worming is getting rid of worms....
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Getting rid of global worms biggrin.gif
gregg
Dr Solanki said that the brighter Sun and higher levels of "greenhouse gases", such as carbon dioxide, both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact.

Cutting down the trees causes a buildup of carbon dioxide, does it not?
Cutting down the trees causes a decrease in the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere, does it not?
Less oxygen in the atmosphere causes disease in all creatures. Most of the diseases of this time are anaerobic; the diseases cannot survive in an oxygen atmosphere. When the oxygen is taken from the atmosphere, here comes the diseases. Hezbullah has been called a terrorist organization, have they cut down all the trees? Just as a little yellow bird is the indicator of poisonous gas in a mine, so plants are the indicators of oxygen in the atmosphere. The size of your body is also an indicator of the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. The size of the people in a big city are an indicator of the extreme amount of carbon in the atmosphere. Obesity is the rule. The schools are told that the cause of obesity in children is the food they eat. That might be if the junk food is made mostly of carbon and that is probably true since all junk food is man-made and to make something, you have to have something to make it from and anything that is anything is made from carbon.

Another element in the atmosphere is Nitrogen, the most plentiful element.

Nitrogen is a constituent of molecules in every major drug class in pharmacology and medicine. Nitrous oxide (N20) was discovered early in the 19th century to be a partial anesthetic, though it was not used as a surgical anesthetic until later. Called "laughing gas", it was found capable of inducing a state of social disinhibition resembling drunkenness. Other notable nitrogen-containing drugs are drugs derived from plant alkaloids, such as morphine (there exist many alkaloids known to have pharmacological effects; in some cases they appear natural chemical defences of plants against predation). Nitrogen containing drugs include all of the major classes of antibiotics, and organic nitrate drugs like nitroglycerin and nitroprusside which regulate blood pressure and heart action by mimicing the action of nitric oxide.

Since cutting down the trees reduces the oxygen level, the mixture of nitrogen with oxygen is less and you have more suicides and shootings, gang formations, road rage, etc. You brain has the ability to make anything combining any element that is present. But nitrogen combined with oxygen at high temps is deadly:

At high temperatures, molecular nitrogen and oxygen can combine to form nitric oxide. A major natural source is lightning. Human activity has drastically increased the production of nitric oxide in combustion chambers. (I can't figure that out) One purpose of catalytic converters in cars is to partially reverse this reaction.

Nitric oxide in the air may later convert to nitric acid, which has been implicated in acid rain. Furthermore, both NO and NO2 participate in ozone layer depletion.

Nitric oxide also serves as a neurotransmitter between nerve cells. Unlike most other neurotransmitters that only transmit information from a presynaptic to a postsynaptic neuron, the small nitric oxide molecule can diffuse all over and can thereby act on several nearby neurons, even on those not connected by a synapse. It is conjectured that this process may be involved in memory through the maintenance of long-term potentiation. Nitric oxide is an important non-adrenergic, non-cholinergic (NANC) neurotransmitter in various parts of the gastrointestinal tract. It causes relaxation of the gastrointestinal smooth muscle. In the stomach it increases the capacity of the fundus to store food/fluids.

The last sentence describes the outbreak of obesity.

Yes, global warming has taken place before, especially during the time of the big bang. Immediately after the big bang the earth at its hottest. Then it started spinning and drying because of the heat from the sun. Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars are the solid planets. Mercury and Venus are in the hottest zones; Earth is in a transition zone where the temperature supports the formation of 'moss on the rolling stone,' and Mars is at the point to where it gets too cold but it is warm enough to solidify the elements.

Jupiter is made of hydrogen and helium and traces of methane, H2O, ammonia. This planet starts the zone where the metallic minerals stay liquid but the the temperature is not cold enough to freeze it.

Planets further out have less hydrogen and helium. When you go out to Pluto there is no H and He; it is Nitrogen.

Nitrogen in the atmosphere causes levitation, the ability to walk, the ability of the bids to fly, and it repels the planets keeping them in their proper orbits, such as the earth from the moon.

The sun has its heat and energy from the fusion of hydrogen and helium ions. Your body has its energy and heat from the fusion of sodium and potassium ions; that is the blood of the nervous system.

That is enough!
comeandsee
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE E-MAIL THIS INFO. TO AL GORE?
Flogi
Global "warming" is a farce, was a farce and always will be a farce.
The earth goes through cycles, that's how God designed it.
It has nothing to do with my Duramax Turbo 1 ton Dually Pick up Truck or my V8 Caddy.smile.gif

Global "worming" has something to do with fishing.

Al Bore doesn't know what he's talking about, he should go fishing.
gregg
y'all keep pumping out those carbons and stuff. leave it all for achmenijabidad and his aislamorobos.

THIS WHOLE EARTH IS HIS NOW! LET 'EM HAVE IT!
Kansasdad
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global worming? You mean warming don't you? Global warming is an increase in global temperatures...Global worming is getting rid of worms....


Do squirrel eat worms?
flyingsquirrel
squirrels will eat just about anything...a squirrel is just a rat with a specialized tail and stronger jaws...and anything a rat eats, so will a squirrel
Butero
Back when I was in school during the 70s, they were saying we were heading into an ice age. Today it is global warming. To me, it is just alarmists trying to use scare tactics to control our behavior. I don't know if it is still up, but radio talk show host Glenn Beck had an actual article from a new magazine from the mid 70s talking about a cooling trend taking place on earth. To me, it is just natural cycles.
flyingsquirrel
problem with that Global Warming is proproganda is this...The Whitehouse has censored and re-edited scientific studies to try to make it look like global warming doesn't exist...now knowing its corporations and insurance companies that are really in control....why did they all meet and change their business stratagies as if preparing for a severe climate related disasters? If it's proproganda...its the corporations that have bought it. Global warming is real...a superheating is usually followed by a super cooling...the difference is that this time, humanity has so changed the natural forces that kept temperatures in check...like forests (by logging them) and the air ( by dumping large amts of CO2 more rapidly than the earth can adapt to) and advanced weapon technologies that alter our entire planet all at once (HAARP)...it is wrong to say that humans have no accountability for their own actions and don't have to have any respect or self control...as a direct result of human action, and nothing else...there's are global shortages of drinking water, food supply is rapidly dwindling, more people die of hunger than all world diseases combined...flooding has been a direct result of deforestation...these are man-made diasters....and people who live on the coastlines and ignore evacuation warnings only have themselves to blame...remember in Revelation, it says, GOD will destroy those who destroy the earth....and who are those destroying the earth? Humanity.
Butero
You make some interesting points Flyingsquirrel, but the problem is that there is no proof man has anything to do with global warming whatsoever, even if it is a reality. People are speculating on it's causes, but nobody knows for sure. The things you mention are possible in theory, but that is all that it is.

As far as food shortages go, that has always been a problem in third world countries. I don't see any food shortages in America. There is also no shortage of drinking water in America. Much of the problem is a lack of knowledge concerning how to make the most of the land available in the third world nations, so they cannot produce enough food. There is also the necessity to know how to treat the water so the people will not die from bacterial infections every time they drink it. I don't buy into the idea we are causing such problems ourselves.

I do agree with you about those who live on the coast that refuse to abide by evacuation orders. By the way, where exactly does it say in Revelation that God will destroy those who destroy the earth? I don't recall ever reading that.
Flogi
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By the way, where exactly does it say in Revelation that God will destroy those who destroy the earth? I don't recall ever reading that.


He's talking about Rev. 11-18, but I don't think it got anything to do with environmental issues.



Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Stephen
Flogi,

"I don't think its got anything to do with environmental issues".

>Agreed. The 7th trumpet is the trigger for the 7 vials of the Lord's wrath against the kingdom of the beast and followers. It is these who will have been destroying the earth to conquer it. Much damage will be done to the earth in the process of subduing it and to kill those who will not worship the beast.

>Those who destroy the earth will be destroyed by the Lord. [Revelation 11:15-19, 16:1-21]
flyingsquirrel
So you think humans have no responsibility whatsoever...they can trash the enviroment, strip it completely of it's resources and there's nothing wrong with that? IWhen you strip the land of the trees, what do you think happens when it rains? You have errosion...errosion is the major cause of flooding....yes and that is absolute proof of human activity affecting the enviroment. So those laws God gave to Israel regarding land management & waste management are completely pointless. So if someone dumps raw sewage in the drinking water and some one drinks it gets sick, that's not anyone's fault? Give me a break! Saying we are not to blame is an excuse not to take responsibility for the human created consequences. God gave people instructions on how to live in harmony with nature......and food shortage and water shortage is extensive and GLOBAL....I have a big problem with people that take absolute no responsibility for their own actions....landfills don't create themselves...people fill them up...the rain washes the pollutants into the waters....and you have to look no farther back than Hurricane Katrina to see a shortage of food and clean water in here in the United States...refusing to take responsibilty to take care of the natural world is spitting in the face of GOD and shows HIM very little respect for HIS creation....you cannot be a Christian without taking care to respect the natural enviroment and ecosystems.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/programmes/tv/...anet/over.shtml

All living things need resources to survive, whether for food or to provide shelter. Humans are just extremely efficient at getting hold of them. One third of the world's resources have been used up in the last 30 years. One calculation estimates that in 50 years' time, we will need another planet Earth to sustain the world's population if it keeps using resources the way it does today. But people in countries such as America, Japan, and in Europe can use up to 30 times the amount of resources as people from poor countries. We simply catch too many fish, use too much wood and waste too much fresh water.


At least 70% of the world's important fish stocks are over-exploited already. Paper use has grown six times since 1961. Consumption of freshwater has tripled since 1950, and it is becoming a very scarce resource: one billion people world-wide don't have access to clean drinking water. All together, up to half of all new plant growth each year on the planet is taken for human use.

http://pubs.wri.org/pubs_content_text.cfm?ContentID=1390

http://www.hcmr.gr/english_site/institutes...acts/index.html
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=1051-0761...&size=LARGE
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http://www.offshore-environment.com/anthropogenicimpact.html



RAF_Ogg
We as Christians,,,are called to also be good stewarts with what God has given us.
We are supposed to take care of our blessings.

While I am not totally convinced that human ignorance is the only cause of global warming, ozone depleation, and the "wierd" weather and earthquakes....I do agree that our ignorance and irresponsible actions only adds to these problems.

We arent helping these things.

If we arent helping,,than we are hurting.
but what next?

jhamner
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We as Christians,,,are called to also be good stewarts with what God has given us.
We are supposed to take care of our blessings.

While I am not totally convinced that human ignorance is the only cause of global warming, ozone depleation, and the "wierd" weather and earthquakes....I do agree that our ignorance and irresponsible actions only adds to these problems.

We arent helping these things.

If we arent helping,,than we are hurting.
but what next?


Well said.
flyingsquirrel
You can join the national arbor day foundation and get free trees to plant...planting trees is a lot of hard work but it makes me feel really good...I grew my trees in good dirt in pots for a while to give them a better chance, and used a really good soil to plant them in when I planted them in the yard...I built wire cages to keep the rabbits from stripping them (rabbits and deer strip young trees of bark in winter, and this can kill them)...if you order trees from national arbor day foundation, you get them cheaper and they do grow really well...they tell you which trees are best suited to control pollution, best suited to feed the most variety of wildlife, and trees best suited for really wet or really dry areas. They let you know how fast they grow.
Stephen
flyingsquirrel,

"So you think humans have no responsibility whatsoever...they can trash the enviroment, strip it completely of it's resources and there's nothing wrong with that?"

>There is everything wrong with the way we have abused the earth's environment. You are certainly correct with your statement. I am a strong environmentalist and what has and is being done is unforgivable. The beast and his followers will do even more extensive damage to the earth while trying to subdue and control the world. Warefare is probably the most devastating human action against the natural enviroment. The Lord will destroy them for this and many other things they will do.
Flogi
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I built wire cages to keep the rabbits from stripping them (rabbits and deer strip young trees of bark in winter, and this can kill them)...


Mmmm, kill the trees? Or will it kill the rabbits and deer?

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So if someone dumps raw sewage in the drinking water and some one drinks it gets sick, that's not anyone's fault?


Here we go.... into the extreme....that's what I hate about radical environmentalists, always quoting extreme situations. And than also indicating someone saying "that's not anyone's fault".
Get real.

It's like tree huggers hanging in the tree tops to prevent loggers from cutting trees, you only see them do it in the summer.
When it's 30 below zero they are at home behind their woodstoves burning wood and polluting the air....!

Another extreme is spiking trees.
Butero
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flyingsquirrel,

"So you think humans have no responsibility whatsoever...they can trash the enviroment, strip it completely of it's resources and there's nothing wrong with that?"

>There is everything wrong with the way we have abused the earth's environment. You are certainly correct with your statement. I am a strong environmentalist and what has and is being done is unforgivable. The beast and his followers will do even more extensive damage to the earth while trying to subdue and control the world. Warefare is probably the most devastating human action against the natural enviroment. The Lord will destroy them for this and many other things they will do.

There is only one problem with Flying Squirrel's argument. Nobody has suggested we should allow massive destruction of the planet or unregulated pollution. The question was over global warming and man's part in it. I am saying there is no proof any human activity has caused it, and I personally believe we are just going through natural weather cycles. In that way, there is nothing we can do or should do to stop it. If it could be proven that CO2s or other things man-made are the cause, fine. Until then, these are just theories and should be treated as such.
Charlie
God fuels the Sun. The Global warming is coming from benieth fueled from above.

Deuteronomy 32
22 For a fire is kindled by my anger, And shall burn to the lowest hell; It shall consume the earth with her increase, And set on fire the foundations of the mountains.



Charlie


benny balerio
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problem with that Global Warming is proproganda is this...The Whitehouse has censored and re-edited scientific studies to try to make it look like global warming doesn't exist...now knowing its corporations and insurance companies that are really in control....why did they all meet and change their business stratagies as if preparing for a severe climate related disasters? If it's proproganda...its the corporations that have bought it. Global warming is real...a superheating is usually followed by a super cooling...the difference is that this time, humanity has so changed the natural forces that kept temperatures in check...like forests (by logging them) and the air ( by dumping large amts of CO2 more rapidly than the earth can adapt to) and advanced weapon technologies that alter our entire planet all at once (HAARP)...it is wrong to say that humans have no accountability for their own actions and don't have to have any respect or self control...as a direct result of human action, and nothing else...there's are global shortages of drinking water, food supply is rapidly dwindling, more people die of hunger than all world diseases combined...flooding has been a direct result of deforestation...these are man-made diasters....and people who live on the coastlines and ignore evacuation warnings only have themselves to blame...remember in Revelation, it says, GOD will destroy those who destroy the earth....and who are those destroying the earth? Humanity.

Air conditioners in the Arctic? Earlier this year, officials in the Canadian Inuit territory of Nunavut authorized the installation of air conditioners in official buildings for the first time. Artificial cooling was necessary, they decided, because summertime temperatures in some southern arctic villages have climbed into the 80s in recent years. Inuit families in the region never used to need to shop in grocery stores, either. But the arctic seas that always stayed frozen well into the summer have started breaking open much earlier, cutting off hunters from the seasonal caribou herds on which their families depend for sustenance. And experienced Inuit hunters, as comfortable reading ice conditions as professional golfers are reading greens, had seldom fallen through the ice and drowned. But this year in Alaska, more than a dozen vanished into the sea. "These are men used to running their trap lines -- people who know the area well -- yet they are literally falling through. They are just gone," said Patricia Cochran, executive director of the Alaska Native Science Commission in Anchorage and chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Council. "The ice conditions are just so drastically different from all of their hunting lifetimes." And last year, for the first time, mosquitoes were sighted at Resolute Bay.

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problem with that Global Warming is proproganda is this...The Whitehouse has censored and re-edited scientific studies to try to make it look like global warming doesn't exist...now knowing its corporations and insurance companies that are really in control....why did they all meet and change their business stratagies as if preparing for a severe climate related disasters? If it's proproganda...its the corporations that have bought it. Global warming is real...a superheating is usually followed by a super cooling...the difference is that this time, humanity has so changed the natural forces that kept temperatures in check...like forests (by logging them) and the air ( by dumping large amts of CO2 more rapidly than the earth can adapt to) and advanced weapon technologies that alter our entire planet all at once (HAARP)...it is wrong to say that humans have no accountability for their own actions and don't have to have any respect or self control...as a direct result of human action, and nothing else...there's are global shortages of drinking water, food supply is rapidly dwindling, more people die of hunger than all world diseases combined...flooding has been a direct result of deforestation...these are man-made diasters....and people who live on the coastlines and ignore evacuation warnings only have themselves to blame...remember in Revelation, it says, GOD will destroy those who destroy the earth....and who are those destroying the earth? Humanity.

Air conditioners in the Arctic? Earlier this year, officials in the Canadian Inuit territory of Nunavut authorized the installation of air conditioners in official buildings for the first time. Artificial cooling was necessary, they decided, because summertime temperatures in some southern arctic villages have climbed into the 80s in recent years. Inuit families in the region never used to need to shop in grocery stores, either. But the arctic seas that always stayed frozen well into the summer have started breaking open much earlier, cutting off hunters from the seasonal caribou herds on which their families depend for sustenance. And experienced Inuit hunters, as comfortable reading ice conditions as professional golfers are reading greens, had seldom fallen through the ice and drowned. But this year in Alaska, more than a dozen vanished into the sea. "These are men used to running their trap lines -- people who know the area well -- yet they are literally falling through. They are just gone," said Patricia Cochran, executive director of the Alaska Native Science Commission in Anchorage and chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Council. "The ice conditions are just so drastically different from all of their hunting lifetimes." And last year, for the first time, mosquitoes were sighted at Resolute Bay.

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A fresh problem in Delta and Richmond may be the newest manifestation of global warming in this region. Some farmers there are beginning to detect salt water from the ocean intruding into the irrigation water they draw from the Fraser River, says Richmond Coun. Harold Steves. Fields that get too salty won’t grow crops and the longtime agriculture advocate is raising the discovery as the latest example of climate change starting to hit close to home. "When they’re pumping water from the river they’re starting to get a bit of salt in the irrigation water," Steves said. Farmers started telling him about the problem early last week and days later he heard a probable explanation – from scientists specializing in global warming who were speaking at the Coastal Communities Network conference in Richmond. He said researchers attribute the phenomenon to a combination of rising sea levels and reduced river flows – both probable consequences of climate change. The scientists estimate sea levels are rising by two to three centimetres per decade, pushing salt water deeper up the river’s estuary. "We’ve got less flow in the Fraser River water coming down river because there’s not as much runoff – because we don’t have the snowpack – therefore the fresh water plume is shallower, which means the salt water wedge has come up even higher," he explained. The problem for farmers is readily solved, Steves said, by raising the irrigation intakes to pump water from closer to the river’s surface. But he said the discovery shouldn’t be ignored.

"It appears to me the salt water plume could be going quite a ways upriver," he said, adding it may have impacts that are yet to be detected. "It could affect the aquifers, it could affect anything up the river." Steves raised the topic Friday at a GVRD committee meeting. He notes it’s not the first local taste of climate change. For more examples, Steves points to a storm surge in 1999 that came close to topping Richmond’s dykes, plus last February’s flooding of waterfront properties in Tsawwassen that caused millions of dollars worth of damage. He said both demonstrated the threat posed by a combination of subsiding river delta land and rising sea levels, which raises the probability of flooding when unusually high tides and strong winds converge. "The region has to take this seriously," he said. "It’s here and it’s with us and we’ve got to respond to it."


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problem with that Global Warming is proproganda is this...The Whitehouse has censored and re-edited scientific studies to try to make it look like global warming doesn't exist...now knowing its corporations and insurance companies that are really in control....why did they all meet and change their business stratagies as if preparing for a severe climate related disasters? If it's proproganda...its the corporations that have bought it. Global warming is real...a superheating is usually followed by a super cooling...the difference is that this time, humanity has so changed the natural forces that kept temperatures in check...like forests (by logging them) and the air ( by dumping large amts of CO2 more rapidly than the earth can adapt to) and advanced weapon technologies that alter our entire planet all at once (HAARP)...it is wrong to say that humans have no accountability for their own actions and don't have to have any respect or self control...as a direct result of human action, and nothing else...there's are global shortages of drinking water, food supply is rapidly dwindling, more people die of hunger than all world diseases combined...flooding has been a direct result of deforestation...these are man-made diasters....and people who live on the coastlines and ignore evacuation warnings only have themselves to blame...remember in Revelation, it says, GOD will destroy those who destroy the earth....and who are those destroying the earth? Humanity.

Air conditioners in the Arctic? Earlier this year, officials in the Canadian Inuit territory of Nunavut authorized the installation of air conditioners in official buildings for the first time. Artificial cooling was necessary, they decided, because summertime temperatures in some southern arctic villages have climbed into the 80s in recent years. Inuit families in the region never used to need to shop in grocery stores, either. But the arctic seas that always stayed frozen well into the summer have started breaking open much earlier, cutting off hunters from the seasonal caribou herds on which their families depend for sustenance. And experienced Inuit hunters, as comfortable reading ice conditions as professional golfers are reading greens, had seldom fallen through the ice and drowned. But this year in Alaska, more than a dozen vanished into the sea. "These are men used to running their trap lines -- people who know the area well -- yet they are literally falling through. They are just gone," said Patricia Cochran, executive director of the Alaska Native Science Commission in Anchorage and chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Council. "The ice conditions are just so drastically different from all of their hunting lifetimes." And last year, for the first time, mosquitoes were sighted at Resolute Bay.

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problem with that Global Warming is proproganda is this...The Whitehouse has censored and re-edited scientific studies to try to make it look like global warming doesn't exist...now knowing its corporations and insurance companies that are really in control....why did they all meet and change their business stratagies as if preparing for a severe climate related disasters? If it's proproganda...its the corporations that have bought it. Global warming is real...a superheating is usually followed by a super cooling...the difference is that this time, humanity has so changed the natural forces that kept temperatures in check...like forests (by logging them) and the air ( by dumping large amts of CO2 more rapidly than the earth can adapt to) and advanced weapon technologies that alter our entire planet all at once (HAARP)...it is wrong to say that humans have no accountability for their own actions and don't have to have any respect or self control...as a direct result of human action, and nothing else...there's are global shortages of drinking water, food supply is rapidly dwindling, more people die of hunger than all world diseases combined...flooding has been a direct result of deforestation...these are man-made diasters....and people who live on the coastlines and ignore evacuation warnings only have themselves to blame...remember in Revelation, it says, GOD will destroy those who destroy the earth....and who are those destroying the earth? Humanity.

Air conditioners in the Arctic? Earlier this year, officials in the Canadian Inuit territory of Nunavut authorized the installation of air conditioners in official buildings for the first time. Artificial cooling was necessary, they decided, because summertime temperatures in some southern arctic villages have climbed into the 80s in recent years. Inuit families in the region never used to need to shop in grocery stores, either. But the arctic seas that always stayed frozen well into the summer have started breaking open much earlier, cutting off hunters from the seasonal caribou herds on which their families depend for sustenance. And experienced Inuit hunters, as comfortable reading ice conditions as professional golfers are reading greens, had seldom fallen through the ice and drowned. But this year in Alaska, more than a dozen vanished into the sea. "These are men used to running their trap lines -- people who know the area well -- yet they are literally falling through. They are just gone," said Patricia Cochran, executive director of the Alaska Native Science Commission in Anchorage and chairwoman of the Inuit Circumpolar Council. "The ice conditions are just so drastically different from all of their hunting lifetimes." And last year, for the first time, mosquitoes were sighted at Resolute Bay.

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A fresh problem in Delta and Richmond may be the newest manifestation of global warming in this region. Some farmers there are beginning to detect salt water from the ocean intruding into the irrigation water they draw from the Fraser River, says Richmond Coun. Harold Steves. Fields that get too salty won’t grow crops and the longtime agriculture advocate is raising the discovery as the latest example of climate change starting to hit close to home. "When they’re pumping water from the river they’re starting to get a bit of salt in the irrigation water," Steves said. Farmers started telling him about the problem early last week and days later he heard a probable explanation – from scientists specializing in global warming who were speaking at the Coastal Communities Network conference in Richmond. He said researchers attribute the phenomenon to a combination of rising sea levels and reduced river flows – both probable consequences of climate change. The scientists estimate sea levels are rising by two to three centimetres per decade, pushing salt water deeper up the river’s estuary. "We’ve got less flow in the Fraser River water coming down river because there’s not as much runoff – because we don’t have the snowpack – therefore the fresh water plume is shallower, which means the salt water wedge has come up even higher," he explained. The problem for farmers is readily solved, Steves said, by raising the irrigation intakes to pump water from closer to the river’s surface. But he said the discovery shouldn’t be ignored.

"It appears to me the salt water plume could be going quite a ways upriver," he said, adding it may have impacts that are yet to be detected. "It could affect the aquifers, it could affect anything up the river." Steves raised the topic Friday at a GVRD committee meeting. He notes it’s not the first local taste of climate change. For more examples, Steves points to a storm surge in 1999 that came close to topping Richmond’s dykes, plus last February’s flooding of waterfront properties in Tsawwassen that caused millions of dollars worth of damage. He said both demonstrated the threat posed by a combination of subsiding river delta land and rising sea levels, which raises the probability of flooding when unusually high tides and strong winds converge. "The region has to take this seriously," he said. "It’s here and it’s with us and we’ve got to respond to it."


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Africa's two highest mountains will lose their ice cover within 25 to 50 years, an environmental group said Thursday. Ice will disappear from Mount Kilimanjaro, Africa's highest mountain, and Mount Kenya, the second-highest, if deforestation and industrial pollution is not stopped, said Fredrick Njau of the Kenyan Green Belt Movement. Kilimanjaro has already lost 82 percent of its ice cover over 80 years, said Njau. Mount Kenya, one of the few places near the equator with permanent glaciers, has lost 92 percent of its ice over the past 100 years. Mount Kilimanjaro, which is in Tanzania, and Mount Kenya, the highest mountain in Kenya, are major attractions for mountaineers, hikers and other tourists. "The two mountains will lose their ice mass in the coming 25 to 50 years if deforestation and industrial pollution are not brought to an end," said Njau, who heads the organization's Mount Kenya Bio-Carbon Project. He spoke weeks before a major climate summit in Nairobi. Green Belt Movement, in collaboration with the French Agency for Development, plans to launch a $2 million (euro 1.6 million) project to plant 2 million trees in the coming 30 years over an area of 4,942 acres within the areas of Mount Kenya and the Kenyan range of mountains called the Aberdares. Both mountains are important water catchment areas in Kenya, with many rivers originating from them.

These rivers are major sources of water and powered generated by dams. "Deforestation that has a direct link to climactic change has affected negatively on the glaciers on top of Mount Kenya," said Njau. "Millions who depend on the seven rivers that depend on Mount Kenya will be affected because some of the rivers are seasonal and may dry up." "For more than 20 years, squatters cleared trees surrounding Mount Kenya [to make way] for farming," he said. "We are trying to offset carbon in the atmosphere and the World Bank told us that they will buy our carbon," through its carbon credits program, Njau said. Through the Mount Kenya and Aberdares tree planting project, the Green Belt Movement expects the trees will absorb about 800,000 tons of carbon dioxide before 2017, Njau said. The World Bank will buy the carbon under the Bio-Carbon Fund that brings together private companies and governments. Trade in carbon credits has been spurred by the requirements of the Kyoto protocol of the U.N. Framework Treaty on Climate Change. Under the carbon credits program, industrial countries obliged by treaty to cut their greenhouse-gas emissions can get credit for reductions in the poor countries.

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