gr82bsaved
Jul 30 2006, 10:31 AM
Insider Report from NewsMax.com(July 30-2006):
Will Iran Deliver a Surprise on Aug. 22?
Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s announcement that his country would respond on August 22 to Western demands regarding Iran’s nuclear program has worried observers asking: Why that date?
Some of the speculation is troubling.
A report that appears on the Web site Zionist.com and a number of blogs speculate:
“Ahmadinejad is a strong believer in the Shiite tradition of a 12th imam, the so-called ‘hidden’ Imam Mahdi who Allah has miraculously kept alive since his disappearance in 874 A.D. As the story goes, Imam Mahdi will return at a time of great global chaos, oppression and bloodshed to usher in an era of (Islamic) justice.
“Ahmadinejad sees himself as Allah’s instrument to pave the way for Imam Mahdi.”
The report notes that August 22 of this year corresponds with the Islamic date of Rajab 28, the day Muslim warrior Saladin conquered Jerusalem from the Crusaders.
“Taken in conjunction with Ahmadinejad’s stated desire to see Israel destroyed, it hardly seems a coincidence,” the report states, speculating that Ahmadinejad could attempt to bring about Imam Mahdi’s return by attacking Israel.
The Web site freerepublic.com has a different take on the Iranian deadline, saying that August 22 corresponds to a date on the Muslim calendar called Lailat Al Israa, “when Muhammad ascended to heaven from the Al Aqsa mosque to receive the five daily prayers. Later, Al Aqsa came to represent Jerusalem.
“The Muslim commemoration is meant to be a night of struggle, accompanied by thunder and lightning … Ahmadinejad could be hinting to the West that he is preparing a major attack on Israel.”
Then again, the date could have been chosen simply because it corresponds with the last day of the Iranian month of Mordad.
LoisFaith2000
Jul 31 2006, 09:08 AM
Note: hope this is posted in right place?????
BE PREPARED AMERICA!
AUGUST 2006 AND 2006 BIBLE CODES (FOUND IN ADVANCE UP TO 2 YEARS AGO)
8th Ab 5766 (2nd Aug 2006), a fire like a terror.
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
3rd August 2006
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
Violent 3rd August 2006 (9 Av 5766)
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
Aggression, 3rd August 2006, and 50, according to the world. - When scoundrels mouth-piece, and nations to his nation, hear my heart, that is equal.
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
4th August 2006 - Day of the sign.
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
You are worn out; bear up, you shall smite! World War - in 2006 - and they smite you!
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
The fire will come. - In 2006. - People; he will atone. The fire is for him.
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
You will proceed to an atomic holocaust. Repent! I come, he will destroy.
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
And, poor me, shall you give a promise China? In 2006 shall you be still?
Hey! They shot shots!
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
2006 - The War
[link to www.exodus2006.com]
flyingsquirrel
Jul 31 2006, 04:26 PM
First it was a july 5th o6 6th, then Iran says we need to aug 23rd, now UN says you have till Aug 31st? Is UN saying, 'Go ahead, take all the time you need to make a atomic weapon and drop it on Israel'?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/31/...in1849144.shtmlU.N. Gives Iran Nuke Deadline
The U.N. Security Council passed a resolution Monday giving Iran until the end of August to suspend uranium enrichment or face the threat of economic and diplomatic sanctions.
gr82bsaved
Jul 31 2006, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(flyingsquirrel @ Jul 31 2006, 04:26 PM)
First it was a july 5th o6 6th, then Iran says we need to aug 23rd, now UN says you have till Aug 31st? Is UN saying, 'Go ahead, take all the time you need to make a atomic weapon and drop it on Israel'?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/31/...in1849144.shtmlU.N. Gives Iran Nuke Deadline
The U.N. Security Council passed a resolution Monday giving Iran until the end of August to suspend uranium enrichment or face the threat of economic and diplomatic sanctions.
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I wonder too.
Here's a few more details:
- Syrian Army told to raise it's readiness (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060731/ts_nm/mideast_assad_dc_2)
- No cease fire coming (http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Mideast_Conflict)
- More rockets rain don on Israel (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/07/31/MNGSQK8CM61.DTL)
I really wonder if the UN will try to vote on an armed, international 'peace keeping' force being placed between Lebanon and Israel? They want one, but the conditions will likely be a demand for Israel to do nothing, and while Hezzbolah will get away with murder - again!
Watching and waiting...
diverteach
Jul 31 2006, 07:15 PM
Ya really gotta be wondering whats going through the minds of the IDF's generals and military strategists.
Surely they don't want to open yet another battle front. However, if ever there was a window (a window that's closing mighty fast) of opportunity to take out Iran's nuke sites, now is the time.
My bet would be that they're waiting on Syria to make the move first. Once Syria is in the mix and Israel is pushing towards Damascus, Iran will jump right on in followed by you know who to back the Israeli's. US forces already surround Iran on both sides almost as if they've been purposely pre-positioned that way.
I have no doubt that if this rapidly closing window of opportunity is allowed to close, Iran will get it's long sought after nuclear weapon.
Marta
Jul 31 2006, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(diverteach @ Jul 31 2006, 07:15 PM)
Ya really gotta be wondering whats going through the minds of the IDF's generals and military strategists.
Surely they don't want to open yet another battle front. However, if ever there was a window (a window that's closing mighty fast) of opportunity to take out Iran's nuke sites, now is the time.
My bet would be that they're waiting on Syria to make the move first. Once Syria is in the mix and Israel is pushing towards Damascus, Iran will jump right on in followed by you know who to back the Israeli's. US forces already surround Iran on both sides almost as if they've been purposely pre-positioned that way.
I have no doubt that if this rapidly closing window of opportunity is allowed to close, Iran will get it's long sought after nuclear weapon.
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You do wonder what is going through their minds diver.
You can't help but think about the Road to Damascus and how it relates today:
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The "Road to Damascus" is a Biblical reference to the conversion of a persecutor of Christians named Saul on the road from Jerusalem to Damascus in the Roman province of Syria in AD 36. According to the Acts of the Apostles, Jesus appeared to Saul and he immediately converted to Christianity and took the name Paul of Tarsus and became one of the main proselytisers of the new religion.
The "Road to Damascus" is sometimes used outside of Christian contexts to refer to a conversion or change of heart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_to_Damascus
onetiggerroo
Jul 31 2006, 08:44 PM
Gypsylass
Jul 31 2006, 09:15 PM
QUOTE(Marta @ Jul 31 2006, 07:16 PM)
QUOTE(diverteach @ Jul 31 2006, 07:15 PM)
Ya really gotta be wondering whats going through the minds of the IDF's generals and military strategists.
Surely they don't want to open yet another battle front. However, if ever there was a window (a window that's closing mighty fast) of opportunity to take out Iran's nuke sites, now is the time.
My bet would be that they're waiting on Syria to make the move first. Once Syria is in the mix and Israel is pushing towards Damascus, Iran will jump right on in followed by you know who to back the Israeli's. US forces already surround Iran on both sides almost as if they've been purposely pre-positioned that way.
I have no doubt that if this rapidly closing window of opportunity is allowed to close, Iran will get it's long sought after nuclear weapon.
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You do wonder what is going through their minds diver.
You can't help but think about the Road to Damascus and how it relates today:
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The "Road to Damascus" is a Biblical reference to the conversion of a persecutor of Christians named Saul on the road from Jerusalem to Damascus in the Roman province of Syria in AD 36. According to the Acts of the Apostles, Jesus appeared to Saul and he immediately converted to Christianity and took the name Paul of Tarsus and became one of the main proselytisers of the new religion.
The "Road to Damascus" is sometimes used outside of Christian contexts to refer to a conversion or change of heart.
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I have been reading Acts this week, and last night God pulled me to the story of Saul on the road to Damascus. As you all probably know, I am but a mere teenager in the Word of God, and had never read that book before. Then to come in here and find a reference to it .....gave me Goosebumps for sure!
onetiggerroo
Jul 31 2006, 09:22 PM
QUOTE
I have been reading Acts this week, and last night God pulled me to the story of Saul on the road to Damascus. As you all probably know, I am but a mere teenager in the Word of God, and had never read that book before. Then to come in here and find a reference to it .....gave me Goosebumps for sure!

Yep, the LORD led me to read that same scripture a few days ago...
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Watch Damascus.... I have been hearing this a lot lately, and prophetically too!
Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, LORD? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. 11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
and then GOD led me to Isaiah 17:1-3...
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. 2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. 3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.
Gypsylass
Jul 31 2006, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ Jul 31 2006, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE
I have been reading Acts this week, and last night God pulled me to the story of Saul on the road to Damascus. As you all probably know, I am but a mere teenager in the Word of God, and had never read that book before. Then to come in here and find a reference to it .....gave me Goosebumps for sure!

Yep, the LORD led me to read that same scripture a few days ago...
QUOTE
Watch Damascus.... I have been hearing this a lot lately, and prophetically too!
Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, LORD? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. 11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
and then GOD led me to Isaiah 17:1-3...
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. 2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. 3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.
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Me too....and then to this....
Zephaniah 2:8~10 I have heard the reproach of Moab, and the insults of the people of Ammon, with which they have reproaced My people, and made arrogant threats against their borders. Therefore, as I live, Says the Lord of hosts, the God of Isreal, "Surely Moab shall be like Sodom, and the people of Ammon like Gomorrah~overrun with weeds and salpits, and a perpetual desolation. The residue of My people shall plunder the, and the remnant of Mypeople shall possess them"
onetiggerroo
Aug 1 2006, 10:51 AM
The book of Amos gives us more insight...
Amos 1:3 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron:
Amos 1:5 I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD.
Amos 3:12 Thus saith the LORD; As the shepherd taketh out of the mouth of the lion two legs, or a piece of an ear; so shall the children of Israel be taken out that dwell in Samaria in the corner of a bed, and in Damascus in a couch.
Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
(...the last verse is a warning to Israel, to turn away from false mysticism practices and false gods; and to return to HIM!)
RosielovesJesus
Aug 1 2006, 11:06 AM
Thanks for showing us Amos again.
You know what I haven't been over to Amos for awhile.
But oh there is much to ponder what our Lord is saying here too.
Well of course the whole bible is like that.
What a great book we have before us.
Thank you for your words to live by.
What can we receive from Amos 1:3-2:3
All the people of the earth are accountable to Godfor their actions. There
are certain boundaries of human behavior that God will not allow people to cross without punishment. Yet, as Jesus said, God shows grace even to the unrighteous (Matthew 5:45). God will send judgment, but only after giving all people time
to repent and change their ways. God does the same thing with us today. We
may seem to prosper while going our own way.
But this will last only a short while. If we do not admit our sin and turn back to God, we will eventually suffer the consequences for our sin.
I hear Jesus speaking everyday REPENT.
I feel we need some John the Baptist's running around shouting REPENT!
God is watching all that we do, in the open and in secret. For really nothing is
a secret to God. He preached the gospel no matter what. He was called to do so and John the Baptist answered the call.
I don't know why but John the Baptist has been on my mind a lot.
He too left us with some great examples to follow.
Now I am wondering, if God is telling me that I will loose my head.
Dear Lord, some would think I already have, according to my posts last night
in the wee hours of the morning.
Okay I am tired but I still have a sense of humor.
I am over tired today, so that seems to be the only sense I have right now.
love to you all.
but I do know following Christ is very serious to me.
Hey BZ you up girl
How are you feeling today?
RosielovesJesus
Aug 1 2006, 11:25 AM
Do you think God will be sending some Amos's in this time in history too.
I believe so.
God called Amos, a shepherd fromTekoa, to awaken his people from their
spiritual sleep and to warn them of the painful consequences that would follow.
God desired to show mercy toward his people, but they refused
to repent. So Amos's predictions for Isreal's future were dark and dismal.
God would allow his people to suffer through a period of destruction and exile.
Despite his predictions of doom, however, Amos also spoke of the future with hope. If only people would amdit their sin and ask for forgiveness, God would
purify and restore them completely. It is never too late to seek spiritual renewal.
God is waiting for us to recognize how helpless we are and to call out to Him for
His loving help.
My precious Saviour, I am helpless, I am weak. I need You always and I ask for forgiveness. When my life is going smoothly, I need to be careful. I am ripe
for complacency and a downfall.
This can lead me down a steep pathway toward destruction.
Even when life is going well, we still need you God.
You are the source of our spiritual renewal; all success must be attributed
to You. A complacent, self-sufficient attitude will lead only to a downfall.
I've been there done that and still have the bruises left in my memory.
Thanks for that memory is fading as I keep my eyes on You.
onetiggerroo
Aug 1 2006, 11:42 AM
Iran Refuses to End Uranium Enrichment Program
19:31 Aug 01, '06 / 7 Av 5766
(IsraelNN.com) Iran turned down an offer by the international community to assist with nuclear development programs geared for domestic purposes in return for dismantling the country’s current uranium enrichment program.
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad officially announced his refusal on Tuesday to end the nuclear development program which constitutes a step in the process used to produce nuclear weapons.
The international community had given Iran several months to consider its offer in an attempt to avoid having to force Ahmedinejad to comply with a United Nations Security Council order to suspend the program.
The Security Council had given Iran an August 31st deadline to comply with the order, before facing possible diplomatic and economic sanctions.
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=108927
onetiggerroo
Aug 8 2006, 10:50 AM
Iran's Day of Terror?
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He asserts that the Supreme National Security Council of Iran chose the August 22 date “for a very precise reason. August 21, 2006 (Rajab 27, 1427) is known in the Islamic calendar as the Night of the Sira’a and Miira’aj, the night Prophet Mohammed (saas) ascended to heaven from the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on a Bourak (Half animal, half man), while a great light lit-up the night sky, and visited Heaven and Hell also Beit al-Saada and Beit al-Shaqaa (House of Happiness and House of Misery) and then descended back to Mecca.…”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=23533WSJ: Scholar Warns Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events' In Mind For August 22
Tue Aug 08 2006 10:22:35 ET
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm
Storm Eagle
Aug 8 2006, 12:26 PM
My spirit is restless with this issue. I don't know how to explain it. It's like watching a scary movie

...the erie music is playing...everything is in half-light...and you know it's comming....but where...when? I am consumed by the information coming out of the middle east. I feel an imense responsibility to watch and listen, but not act. It's like a heavy blanket of restrainment is over me as I asess world events.

James
Formerly JIMMYSIGN
Stephen
Aug 8 2006, 12:41 PM
In reviewing what has taken place up to this time in the Middle East I would suggest the following: There is a portion of visionary prophecy that remains unfulfilled at present which would require an environment basically free of contamination and destruction caused by nuclear explosions and resulting fallout. So unless we are many years from the end of this present age and from the visions to consumate (time would be required for dissipation of the results of a nuclear exchange), this will not happen there.
What will most likely occur as the result of the current war will be a greater hatred by the Islamic countries toward Israel and the USA and the more immediate possibility of significant unification of the sectarian Middle East. This could be brought on by the appearance of the little horn (if he is not already present) and his ability to solidify the common objectives of the adherants of Islam.
As long as Islam prevails in the Middle East there will be no sea change in the area and the current offset with the western nations and Israel will continue. It is doubtful that much success will be achieved in converting Islam to coinside with western democratic ideals and the resultant elimination of the hostilities there. So until one comes to unify the Islamic cause .... things will continue and even become more pressured than they are now.
There is evidence in visionary prophecy for mass destruction outside of the Middle East which could take place without creating an uninhabitable environment there. The likely scene for this would be for a leader of the Islamic nations of the Middle East to use WMD's on opponents located away from his base of operations. This would coinside with the prophetic visions.
So I think, but can not be certain, that Iran, or Israel for example, will not trigger nuclear weapons in the Middle East proper. This action would create an environment not suitable for human habitations there for years to come.
Humble Bob
Aug 8 2006, 12:52 PM
...the whole Middle-Eastern region supposedly is to get wiped. How else does the beast and the false prophet get tossed into the lake of fire?
(assuming the "beast" is the world's government system, and the "false prophet" is Islam)
Stephen
Aug 8 2006, 01:24 PM
HB,
The beast and the 10 human kings (10 horns) will rule there and over Israel for 1,260 days (42 months) after conquering the Middle East. This has not happened yet, so the lake of fire will consume the beast and his false prophet after their rule, and just after the battle of Armageddon. [Revelation 13:5, 17:8-18, 19:11-21]
The beast is Abaddon who comes out of the abyss [Revelation 9:11, 11:7, 17:8-11] who is a fallen angelic that will do Satan's bidding on the earth. His human manifestation will be Daniel's little horn, king of the north in the Middle East. The false prophet is also a fallen angelic and will operate through two human clerics (two horns) ..... and these may very well be Islamic ..... and they will lead Abaddon's cult religion (most likely Islamic). Both the beast and the false prophet will be eliminated in the lake of fire at the end of the battle of Armagedddon. This lake of fire is the method that the Lord uses to kill angelics. They are not human and do not have physical bodies, and they do not die by ordinary means. You could drop a nuclear bomb on top of them and it would not effect them. Satan will experience the same fate 1,000 years later. [Revelation 20:10]
The inclusion of Islam here is speculative. It really depends upon how close we are to the time of the end. If we are not close, things could be different in the future.
Storm Eagle
Aug 8 2006, 01:30 PM
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In reviewing what has taken place up to this time in the Middle East I would suggest the following: There is a portion of visionary prophecy that remains unfulfilled at present which would require an environment basically free of contamination and destruction caused by nuclear explosions and resulting fallout. So unless we are many years from the end of this present age and from the visions to consumate (time would be required for dissipation of the results of a nuclear exchange), this will not happen there.
What will most likely occur as the result of the current war will be a greater hatred by the Islamic countries toward Israel and the USA and the more immediate possibility of significant unification of the sectarian Middle East. This could be brought on by the appearance of the little horn (if he is not already present) and his ability to solidify the common objectives of the adherants of Islam.
As long as Islam prevails in the Middle East there will be no sea change in the area and the current offset with the western nations and Israel will continue. It is doubtful that much success will be achieved in converting Islam to coinside with western democratic ideals and the resultant elimination of the hostilities there. So until one comes to unify the Islamic cause .... things will continue and even become more pressured than they are now.
There is evidence in visionary prophecy for mass destruction outside of the Middle East which could take place without creating an uninhabitable environment there. The likely scene for this would be for a leader of the Islamic nations of the Middle East to use WMD's on opponents located away from his base of operations. This would coinside with the prophetic visions.
So I think, but can not be certain, that Iran, or Israel for example, will not trigger nuclear weapons in the Middle East proper. This action would create an environment not suitable for human habitations there for years to come.
I agree that a nucular option seems unlikey against israel. Perhaps something else to insite the rest of the islamic world into a frenzy...or a dirty bomb in the US. Good logic Stephen

James
Formerly JIMMYSIGN
Stephen
Aug 8 2006, 01:37 PM
Storm Eagle,
"I agree that a nucular option seems unlikey against israel. Perhaps something else to insite the rest of the islamic world into a frenzy...or a dirty bomb in the US. Good logic Stephen"
>This is more likely and could actually be what the visions describe. It is the beast (little horn) and the 10 others who will hate MBG and destroy her "great city" part in one hour on one day. They would then be in a better position to conquer and rule over Israel and the Middle East. If Iran sent the bomb to Israel at this time, they would most likely get one, or more, back in their own yard. Israel has this response capability, even off shore. This would set the entire region back years and without the possibility of many of the unfulfilled prophetic visions to run their course.
duncdrewnoah
Aug 8 2006, 02:21 PM
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Storm Eagle,
"I agree that a nucular option seems unlikey against israel. Perhaps something else to insite the rest of the islamic world into a frenzy...or a dirty bomb in the US. Good logic Stephen"
>This is more likely and could actually be what the visions describe. It is the beast (little horn) and the 10 others who will hate MBG and destroy her "great city" part in one hour on one day. They would then be in a better position to conquer and rule over Israel and the Middle East. If Iran sent the bomb to Israel at this time, they would most likely get one, or more, back in their own yard. Israel has this response capability, even off shore. This would set the entire region back years and without the possibility of many of the unfulfilled prophetic visions to run their course.
agree....i suggest that this current conflict will lead to a "lasting peace".....remember, they must cry peace before destruction. the Bible is clear in painting a picture of peace before Magog invasion...but before you can celebrate peace, you must have war...i think Israel is having the war now that will lead to celebrating peace, that will lead to invasion....the question is, how soon before we get this false peace and then how long before it is interupted...and will we be here to see any of it?
Gypsylass
Aug 8 2006, 02:37 PM
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My spirit is restless with this issue. I don't know how to explain it. It's like watching a scary movie

...the erie music is playing...everything is in half-light...and you know it's comming....but where...when? I am consumed by the information coming out of the middle east. I feel an imense responsibility to watch and listen, but not act. It's like a heavy blanket of restrainment is over me as I asess world events.

James
Formerly JIMMYSIGN
I sooooo understand these feelings...its in my thoughts awake and asleep!
flyingsquirrel
Aug 8 2006, 02:49 PM
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Storm Eagle,
"I agree that a nucular option seems unlikey against israel. Perhaps something else to insite the rest of the islamic world into a frenzy...or a dirty bomb in the US. Good logic Stephen"
>This is more likely and could actually be what the visions describe. It is the beast (little horn) and the 10 others who will hate MBG and destroy her "great city" part in one hour on one day. They would then be in a better position to conquer and rule over Israel and the Middle East. If Iran sent the bomb to Israel at this time, they would most likely get one, or more, back in their own yard. Israel has this response capability, even off shore. This would set the entire region back years and without the possibility of many of the unfulfilled prophetic visions to run their course.
agree....i suggest that this current conflict will lead to a "lasting peace".....remember, they must cry peace before destruction. the Bible is clear in painting a picture of peace before Magog invasion...but before you can celebrate peace, you must have war...i think Israel is having the war now that will lead to celebrating peace, that will lead to invasion....the question is, how soon before we get this false peace and then how long before it is interupted...and will we be here to see any of it?
When I was little girl, and knew nothing about Israel, God showed me the invasion of Israel...the entire land was covered in so much blood, it looked like a sea. HE put His hand on my shoulder and said, "This will happen in your lifetime." my only question...how long into my lifetime?
Stephen
Aug 8 2006, 03:10 PM
duncdrewnoah,
"agree....i suggest that this current conflict will lead to a "lasting peace".....remember, they must cry peace before destruction. the Bible is clear in painting a picture of peace before Magog invasion...but before you can celebrate peace, you must have war...i think Israel is having the war now that will lead to celebrating peace, that will lead to invasion....the question is, how soon before we get this false peace and then how long before it is interupted...and will we be here to see any of it?"
>Your concept of a time frame of peace is very possible. It is the beginning of the time frame of the end that is not indicated in the prophetic Scriptures. So we really do not know where we are exactly on the timing. We know that Israel has returned to the Land from the nations to be in position, we know that the nation is surrounded by direct enemies, and we know that the difficulties there are having the effects of drawing all national interests for a number of reasons. This is what we know.
It is also possible that any peace will be false as you indicate. What ever happens in this context will not last according to prophecy. I don't read like some do that the leader of the 10 kings will bring peace as a diversion, but will bring devastation and destruction from the get-go. For example, I do not think that the covenant confirmed is a peace agreement, I think that the "king of fierce countenance" will destroy with "ease" (this is an acceptible translation) and without warning, and will use peace as the rational for his objectives by destroying large numbers of those who will not bend to his motivations.
Neither do I think that Israel must move into a different phase of safety (protected) and permanency (at rest - in place). I believe these things are already operating by the Lord's providence. Otherwise the tiny nation would have already been eliminated by now. The nation is quite capable of defending itself over time as demonstrated, and it is very permanent in its place where the Lord wants it to exist for His purposes.
The bench marks of the 70th week that one could measure from are as follows as I see them:
1. The confirmation of the covenant, if overt, which could be either a peace agreement or a war pact, or both. (this by the way does depend upon who does the confirming. I believe that there are two options).
2. The sudden beginning of measurable destruction of the earth by Satan's warfare. This could involve the destruction of MBG's "great city".
3. The release of hords of fallen angelics involved in the judgment process of the earth, seen or unseen by humans.
4. The rise to power of the little horn, and the 10 kings, and his conquering success including his victory over others opposed to his rule and his invasion and occupation of Israel and the temple mount.
5. The abomination of desolation placed on the temple mount at midweek.
6. The rule of the little horn over most of the Middle East and other parts of the earth for 42 months.
7. The battle of Armagedon where he will be defeated by the Lord.
Karen R.
Aug 8 2006, 05:06 PM
Did anyone notice who is was that delivered the deal to Iran on behalf of the UN plus Germany?
It was Javier Solana on 6/06/06.
I thought that was interesting. Solana will also be the one to retreive Iran's decision.
He and that number keeps cropping up together.
On August 2nd, because of the situation with Lebanaon and Israel, an EU Council Conclusion "No. 66/06"
says in part ""The EU is committed to promote a comprehensive peace plan for the Middle East in close cooperation with partners and the countries in the region. There is no military solution to any of the problems facing the people of the region. The Council asked the High Representative [Solana] to remain engaged and to remain in contact with all the relevant parties and to be ready to contribute to a political solution and to the peace process."
~Karen
Miki
Aug 8 2006, 05:18 PM
Hi Karen. Haven't heard from you for a while.
This peace plan really makes you think twice doesn't it!
Karen R.
Aug 8 2006, 06:42 PM
Hi Miki!
Yes, it sure does make you think!
Signet
Aug 8 2006, 09:15 PM
QUOTE(diverteach @ Jul 31 2006, 07:15 PM) [snapback]76501[/snapback]
Ya really gotta be wondering whats going through the minds of the IDF's generals and military strategists.
Surely they don't want to open yet another battle front. However, if ever there was a window (a window that's closing mighty fast) of opportunity to take out Iran's nuke sites, now is the time.
My bet would be that they're waiting on Syria to make the move first. Once Syria is in the mix and Israel is pushing towards Damascus, Iran will jump right on in followed by you know who to back the Israeli's. US forces already surround Iran on both sides almost as if they've been purposely pre-positioned that way.
I have no doubt that if this rapidly closing window of opportunity is allowed to close, Iran will get it's long sought after nuclear weapon.
Hi,
I read something in the last day or two that US has wanted to dismantle the government of syria and
iran...this is a tool in that framing of the war...
Flogi
Aug 8 2006, 10:23 PM
Hitler hated the jews, wanted to destroy them all.
The same is happening now.( Iran is very clear about it:"Wipe them of the map")
Hitler wanted to take over the world.
The same is happening now, they hate the west and want to take over the world.
Most countries ignored the warning signs in the 1930's, and treated Hitler nicely and gave him the benefit of the doubt.
Same is happening now. Most nations ignore Iran and its dictators.
I can pretty well garantee you folks that if Israel does not stop playing "Mr. Nice Guys" they will have a lot more trouble on their hands in the future. In order to avoid this they will have to take drastic actions against Iran and Syria. I think they can and I think they will because they have nothing to loose. Once Iran has a nuclear device all is lost. Israel needs to strike first. Be assured that they can and will do it. They have the weapons and the will to do it, it's just a matter of time.
Sad story? Yes, but it's reality and it will happen. There will be no peace till the return of Christ.
God's Lamb
Aug 8 2006, 11:01 PM
WOW! FlyingSquirrel.
When I was in kindergarden my uncle had moved out here from Maryland...he was in the Navy. He had books about the war......and I saw book with the Jewish people in the camps. I sat and cried. When I went home I told my Mother the next time this happens I'm going to help them. She said it will not happen again. And I said very assurely yes it will...and I am going to help them. My mother never forgot it. I give money to Wings of Egales and a feeding program every month to help the Jewish people out and I pray for them everyday...I got a chance to go to Israel and I was up in Haiffa, the Golden Heights, Gaza and we drove over 2000 miles all over the place. And when I got to Israel....I felt like I had come home! Weird.
I was in Europe and never felt I was home.....

Yes. I heart aches for the Jewish people.
God Bless.

marie<><
Simple
Aug 9 2006, 05:35 AM
The immediate consequence of this war is that Israel will destroy all her neighbourhood enemies .
How the map of the Middle East is redrawn after that is quite another matter .
I don't think any global players , apart from US and GB , will be particularly happy with a nation that doesn't play the political game the way its supposed to be played .
A devastated Middle East , the gospel going out to the last bastion of resistance .....( Islam ) ....and then what ?
duncdrewnoah
Aug 9 2006, 07:02 AM
QUOTE(simplebaby @ Aug 9 2006, 06:35 AM) [snapback]78028[/snapback]
The immediate consequence of this war is that Israel will destroy all her neighbourhood enemies .
How the map of the Middle East is redrawn after that is quite another matter .
I don't think any global players , apart from US and GB , will be particularly happy with a nation that doesn't play the political game the way its supposed to be played .
A devastated Middle East , the gospel going out to the last bastion of resistance .....( Islam ) ....and then what ?
one thing I keep coming back to; I believe in the 7000 yrs of time as we know it. (you know a day is a thousand yrs) the 6001-7000 being sabath rest (thousands yrs of Christ on earth) ...I have studied what yr we are in now for over a yr now. I am convinced that Joshua entered the promised land in the yr 2501 after creation...that is fairly easy to figure out by just reading dates in the bible...that would leave 3500 yrs left til the second coming....its a long story how i got here but the bottom line is, if our date is correct and this is 2006, and Jesus was crucified around 32 AD and the temple was destroyed on Aug 5 70 ad (av 9th), then we are in the yr 5993 after creation (jewish yrs 360 days each yr)....Rosh Hashana (spt 22) starts the jewish yr 5994. I am not setting dates. im just saying that if the 7000 yr theory is true, we have to be very close to the 6000 yr. I would be glad to spell out how i came to this. I know the Jews call this the yr 5766 or whatever, but i can show anyone in 2 minutes how they changed the yrs and did not count a lot of yrs. Jesus is coming...maybe not this yr, or next (maybe so) but he is coming soon. I have prayed alot about this, i did not want to waste time trying to find out the yr if it didnt matter. it matters.
Simple
Aug 9 2006, 07:30 AM
that's interesting Duncan ..........so around 2013 a false Christ could set himself up in Israel then ?
duncdrewnoah
Aug 9 2006, 09:06 AM
QUOTE(simplebaby @ Aug 9 2006, 08:30 AM) [snapback]78038[/snapback]
that's interesting Duncan ..........so around 2013 a false Christ could set himself up in Israel then ?
or before....if in fact, we are in the yr 5993 (i may be off a few yrs but not a lot of yrs), then Sept 22 starts 5994. That means the 7 yr treaty will be confirmed soon. Remember, it doesnt have to be a complete 7 yrs. Only that a 7 yr treaty is confirmed. In fact, the Bible tells us those days will be shortened. Ponder this time line...not setting dates jus showing how things could unfold that seem to fit a lot of coincedences.
this yr is or is very close to 5993...so 5994 starts in sept...
this yr (nov 8) is the end of 40 yrs since Jerusalem was retaken (nov 8 is the exact day Noah entered the ark and the flood started)
this 40 yrs mirrors the wilderness and Moses; Isralites were given the promise land but were faithless and did not go in. 40 yrs they wondered in the desert then went into the promise land and had 7 yrs of war to settle the land...now israel was given Jerusalam in 1967 but were faithless and gave it back...40 yrs later is the day the flood starts!!!!
look at the current war in lebanon; started at mourning period of Tammuz, got worse every day up to Av 9 (temple destruction) just like in Kings. Look at this, if the Jews were taken into captivity in 605bc, then 70 yrs later a decree was issued to return, ( a yr to a day?) this started at the start of 3 week period of tammuz and if you add 70 days=Rosh Hashana!!!!!! will there be a decree on Rosh Hashana of this yr?
My theory (i have been wrong before and am no prophet but oh how I love Bible prophecy):
This current war leads to a peace treaty sometime between now and Rosh Hashana
Something happens on Nov 8 that is major...
this leads to Iran (magog invasion) attacking an Israel that is at peace
notice Ez 38 says it will take place in the mountains of Isreal...the birds will eat the dead in the mountians and on the plain. (this is the westbank/golan heights area). I did some research on migrating birds in Isreal and the meat eaters are most numerous during the winter months, will be very hungry and guess what else happens in Dec; Hanukuh (haggai says on the second day of hanukuh a major event happens). By the way, God says there will be a major quake during the magog invasion...remember dec 26 2004? THE earthquake! 720 days later (jewish yrs 360+360)=second day of hanukah....if gog invades then and is destroyed, Jan 1 would be a great time to confirm that peace covenant that iran just broke..all yea, on Jan 1, the Eu gets a new leader and the treaty with israel starts that day.....could just all be chance though and the end is not yet...
onetiggerroo
Aug 9 2006, 09:39 AM
NUCLEAR WAR-FEAR
Iranian cataclysm forecast Aug. 22
Islamists seeking heaven could spark apocalypse, Princeton expert warns
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Posted: August 8, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51445
gregg
Aug 20 2006, 09:11 PM
about 2 more days. . . or 1 1/2 days.
flyingsquirrel
Aug 21 2006, 12:58 PM
flyingsquirrel
Aug 21 2006, 04:08 PM
http://www.spaceweather.com/images2006/22a...kymap_north.gifPLANETS ALIGN: Set your alarm. If you wake up before dawn on Tuesday, Aug. 22nd, you can see three planets lined up with the crescent Moon. Just go outside and look east. It's a beautiful sight, and a nice way to begin the day: sky map.
I very seldom dream, but I dreamt I was on bus 22. There was a bus 16, also going to the same place. There were so many buses in the dream and all their destination were marked in detail next to their departure points.
chrio39
Aug 21 2006, 10:56 PM
That is interesting. The planes were supposed to be bombed on the 16th. We all have heard the buzz about the 22nd.
Many busses, different destinations and departure points, hmm...
RosielovesJesus
Aug 21 2006, 11:21 PM
QUOTE(chrio39 @ Aug 21 2006, 11:56 PM) [snapback]80463[/snapback]
That is interesting. The planes were supposed to be bombed on the 16th. We all have heard the buzz about the 22nd.
Many busses, different destinations and departure points, hmm...
hmm, is right Chrio39!
I will be staying up tonight praying. Praying for safety for all.
My heart aches tonight.
Let us pray that any that are plotting evil will get alzheimers and can't remember what the heck
they were thinking of doing. But of course better yet that Jesus gets a hold of their heart and they change
in an instant.
Jesus, you know I was kidding about the alzheimers right.
But I surely wasn't joking about you taking a hold of their hearts.
What a beautiful heart they will have when you move in to it.
I love you Jesus.
I pray we will be safe in your arms always.
love,
rosie
diverteach
Aug 22 2006, 10:05 PM
Well, as today, August 22nd comes to a close, it appears that Iran's surprise for this day goes to, of all places, Romania.
Washington Post onlineRomania Oil Rig in Persian Gulf Attacked
By ALISON MUTLER
The Associated Press
Tuesday, August 22, 2006; 10:34 PM
BUCHAREST, Romania -- Romania said Iranian warships opened fire and seized a Romanian oil rig Tuesday off the coast of Iran, holding its workers for hours in an incident stemming from a commercial dispute.
Sergiu Medar, a national security adviser to Romanian President Traian Basescu, said the seizure resulted from a commercial disagreement that Iran is treating "in an extreme way." He gave no details.
The crew of 27 was held for several hours on the rig's heliport before being freed following demands from Romania's Foreign Ministry, according to Gabriel Comanescu, president of the private company GSP, which owns the rig.
Iran has not commented on the incident.
GSP said a number of Iranian warships fired in the direction of the rig, and troops from the vessels boarded and seized it. Comanescu said one of the cranes was destroyed in the attack.
Comanescu provided few details on the causes of the incident but said that an Iranian court had ordered the rig to remain in Iranian waters pending resolution of a legal dispute. He said it also involves a Dubai-based company and two Iranian companies. The Iranian companies' representatives also boarded the rig on Tuesday, he added.
The Romanian Foreign Ministry said it summoned Iran's ambassador to explain the incident and that Romania's charge d'affaires in Iran was instructed to lodge an official protest.
A Romanian lawmaker who leads the left-wing opposition accused Iran of taking a hostile action against Romania. He called on President Basescu to lead an emergency meeting of the country's supreme defense council.
"The oil rig Orizont is Romanian territory," said Mircea Geoana, who heads the Social Democratic Party. Geoana served as foreign minister from 2000-2004.
GSP, also known as the Oil Services Group, is a private Romanian company established in 2004 that operates six offshore rigs that it bought from Romania's largest oil company, Petrom.
Two of its rigs are operating near the Iranian coast in the Persian Gulf as part of a deal signed between Petrom, GSP and Dubai-based Oriental Oil Co.
The Orizont rig was built in 1987 and weighs 13,000 tons. It has been moored near Kish island in the Persian Gulf since October 2005, Romanian political consul in Tehran Yujin Chira told The Associated Press.
Kish, in the southern end of the Persian Gulf, houses the offices of about 100 Iranian and foreign oil companies.
Butero
Aug 24 2006, 10:51 AM
Guessing the dates of impending dissasters is interesting, but as is usually the case, this one like the others was wrong, and thank the Lord for that. I wouldn't be too comforted in that because I know our enemies have something planned for our hurt, but it is impossible to guess the exact timing of such strikes. The Bible says that when we say peace, peace, then we should look out for sudden destruction. In other words, it will come at a time we are not expecting it.
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