Brothers and sisters in Jesus Chist,

(Spoiler movie warning)

I'm appalled at the recent exposure of the Da Vinci Code movie that has just been released, and the effects it's generating on the general public. Should we recall that we are living in a time of apostasy? It breaks my heart to see that this recent movie has caused some people to be deceived, even so with it's bad reviews. But mainly I felt disturbed at some of the imagery I found in the film and the manipulation of the truth, with which Dan Brown seems to find strenght. I'm not talking about how he goes on and on stating that our Lord is just a mere human being like anyone of us, or that even though he's a so called christian he continues to work for the enemy, going around the very principles of truth and love that only exist in our faith. Saying: "So what if Jesus was just a man, he still did miracles". Giving some of the audience the feeling of accepting that he was just a man, a very good man. We as christians know that yes, HE was an incredible man, the greatest, but also He is the Word made flesh. So I ache at this man's attempt on little by little destroying Jesus as a divine figure. Just changing a little here and there...

But even if we forget about this, and about the fact that "we should all bow down to Mary Magdalene" the sacred feminine figure (no offense, God bless women as a precious gift to man); there's a lot more going on under the table...

This is going to take too long, so for now I will just focus in some points here:

1. THIS IS A FREEMASONRY AND OCCULT SOCIETY GLORIFYING MOVIE. For anyone who is familiar with the study on this societies and their occult origins, this is no surprise. There's numerous scenes in the movie in which you can see their symbols, some so hidden and others so bluntly in our face. Images like the Obelisk in continuos flashbacks of Sophie Neveu's childhood while she was at her grandfather's office (which belonged to the Priority of Zion, just another name for it), the box that contained the codex in a pentagon shape, and the "rose" like a pentagram (need to say that a pentagram comes from this shape?). Not only that but also the inverted triangles or pyramids that form the star of david (for anyone wanting to know more about this symbol, is not jewish, but egyptian), but the only significance of the pyramid as a truly masonic symbol. We can also add the "stars" or pentagrams in the roof of the lower chamber at the last scenes in the church.

2. IT CALLS FOR THE UNIFICATION OF ALL RELIGIONS INTO ONE WITH ITS SYMBOLS ALL APPEARING ALMOST AT THE END OF THE MOVIE IN A CHURCH. Robert Langdon (Hanks's character) says: "All symbols in the same place" (I'm not quoting exactly since I've seen it once), naming the star of david, the cross, images from the islam, etc. All appearing in this church in which truth was to be found, the Holy Grail itself.

3. THE ACCEPTANCE AND SYMPATHY FOR SECRET SOCIETIES LIKE FREEMASONS, ETC. I was shocked, seeing scenes of Sophie Neveau's grandfather being involved in sexual activities on secret meetings from this "good and harmless secret society", occult as it can get. Even more concerned when I found that they portray his grandfather as a hero, and the society which he belonged to as good. In the movie they are the one's that are protecting Jesus blood!!! How can people buy this!!!???? First as we all know, JESUS NEVER HAD SONS OR DAUGHTERS, NOR HE WAS MARRIED TO MARY MAGDALENE, and if so why would an occult society would be responsible of taking care of his offspring. There's no point on going on, this is the work of the devil, believe it or not.

The Outcome:

I leave the movie theater in shock with so much information I know I can rebuke, not because of my understanding, but because of GOD'S GRACE AND LOVE. And so with this feeling of frustration, comes sadness knowing that a lot of people will be deceived, and that nowdays people choose to believe in anything but in the TRUE LORD. I prayed after the movie hoping that the audience won't buy into its lies, and then I understand that movies like this do much more harm than those like The Omen (of course, the omen is not good at all too). I expected this, being written by a mason brother coming out from the Psi Upsilon fraternity at Amherst, or being directed by somebody who just did National Treasure a couple of years ago (look into freemasonry, and you'll be surprised who is their "real god", note the small caps:) glorifying our mason and occult origins...For anyone who will jump on attacking this last sentence, please see this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=21...=the+illuminati (for some reason the full movie has been divided into several parts, nevertheless it's interesting, I have the full version upon request, though it's about 500 megabytes). And this one is useful too: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...5&q=Freemasonry

Please not that WE SHOULD SEEK FOR GOD'S TRUTH, THE LORD JESUS AND OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. Some of this information on the current videos might sound too much, but please be open to historical accounts and evidence. In the end though, THE ONLY TRUTH WILL BE FROM THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Good bless you all my friends,and please let me know about your opinon on the Da Vinci Code movie, for it is most valuable.

2 Chronicles 32:7

Hi,

You are right on it.

It's out there, right...God, is God...we pray, correct...
they go, they go, even reluctantly we go...just to check it out...
because of the hype...and to pray against it or we don't go because
we know its hype...

I haven't seen the movie...and I know that it is a fiction...and I
know that it steps on some sacred cows....it cannot touch God,
however, there are many people that would never enter a church
that will enter a controversial movie, and then for them, without
any other thing, it begins. They may walk away, and comdemn
God...they may intellectualize a fictonary movie as a basis of
not believing...however, God is God...there will not be one child
condemned to anything except suffering there denial of God,
that is not in God's timing....

I picketed a movie a few years ago...and then the Lord lead me
to go to it. I was throwing up in the bathroom, because I did not
want to let go of my indignation...finally, I went in a saw the
last part of it...and I cried till the end along with everyone else in
the theatre...I had begged God to shut it down...God is in control...
and there I was faced with this thing...I realized that for some
that would never seek God...that the very question of Jesus would
be a beginning of a turmoil that would begin for watching.

I hate blasphemy, I have been a blasphemer, I didn't know it,
and I just didn't have the importance of decision. I had been
raised in a secular-christian family...without the mind of Christ
I was lost...I wasn't particulary bad, not big sin life to be saved
from...except the biggest one, mediocrity....Laodicia...

Please understand that the stumbling blocks are sometimes those
that being saved we don't understand...or we have forgotten
how our salvation came...and praying for these...to find the real
Jesus is our calling....

Blessings,
Signet

When I think of Dan Brown and what he is teaching (thru the book and the movie) I think of Romans 16:17

KJV: Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

NLT: And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people's faith by teaching things that are contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them.



My current problem is that the pastor of the church I attend is encouraging all to go and see the movie... and invite a friend... then invite the friend to come to church on Sunday.

And now I think of 2 Tim 4:2-4

NLT Preach the word of God. Be persistent, whether the time is favorable or not. Patiently correct, rebuke, and encourage your people with good teaching. For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to right teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever they want to hear. They will reject the truth and follow strange myths.



I am thinking that inviting a friend and seeing the movie together isn't exactly preaching the word of God outright... it's hoping that the friend will go to church after seeing our Lord blasphemed.

2 John verse 9
KJV Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

NLT For if you wander beyond the teaching of Christ, you will not have fellowship with God. But if you continue in the teaching of Christ, you will have fellowship with both the Father and the Son.


I am questioning whether or not to continue with this church. To me, the leader encouraging us to see the movie is wandering beyond the doctrine of Christ.

The Lord will lead me. I am not worrying about it.

NLT Psalm 112:1,7 1) Praise the LORD! Happy are those who fear the LORD... 7)
They do not fear bad news; they confidently trust the LORD to care for them.

Dani

Be patient dear and pray for your Pastor with your whole heart.

what dan brown is exposing is not the truth about Jesus.

but rather, the facts about the masons. and the origins of this nation.
and the evil behind it.

but, do you have eyes to see?

what is revealed to me through his work is the truth, not about Jesus, but rather, the truth about the Masons.

and the history and basis for this nation, with all its symbols and their source of origin.

and what knowledge for me is of comfort?

Masons are builders in literal stone. they were "free" in the middle ages, free men who were free to go from cathedral to big cathedral in their "building work"....with literal stones.

but please remember this one truth.

It is the STONE that is cut out of the Mountain....

**NOT BY HUMAN HANDS**....that will "smash the image at its feet",

the image will fall, and will blow away like chaff on a threshing floor.

and that STONE (the True ONE --Jesus Christ) will grow to fill the whole earth with Righteousess and Justice. and with Truth. for all.

it shall not be by mere men's efforts (or men's kingdoms, or kings, or governments of man, --including the US)....for these men seek to build in stone what is natural, and that that glorifies and enriches them, in this world, the one that is ruled by the devil...


for do you recall what thing that the devil offered to Jesus, in return for one act of worship?

Jesus refused that offer....but these men, they have accepted that offer.

and the proof of what is evil is to found in the fruitage of their works. ..or rather, the WORKS OF THE FLESH, that they display.

God has every RIght to CRUSH AND PUT AN END TO ALL THESE KINGDOMS!!!

and HIS KINGDOM!, BY MEANS OF HIS SON, THE TRUE KING, APPOINTED BY GOD, WILL RULE THIS EARTH FOREVER AND EVER. To the GLory of GOD THE FATHER. amen.


But the HOUSE of GOD is consructed, not of stones by masons, but Rather, BY LIVING STONES.

and JESUS HIMSELF IS THE FOUNDATION CORNER.

but they do not do they things that Jesus did. nor do they honor him.
and because they do not HONOR THE SON...
neither do these HONOR THE FATHER.

IT IS NOT BY HUMAN HANDS, that the temple shall be completed...NO!
but it IS
"BY MY SPIRIT!! JEHOVAH OF ARMIES HAS SAID!"

what they seek is earthly....

and what we seek is not from this earth.

May God bless YOU, who seek HIM!, with insight and with discernment, in all things, that His Name might be glorified and praised and DECLARED AS TRUE AND FAITHFUL AND WORTHY, before all men, and in all heaven and earth.

MAY HIS NAME BE BLESSED!

-bz

sorry to barge in,but does not your conclusion be something good???

i mean, all the worlds religions into one, thats GOOD is it not? peace and harmony.but perhaps you dont want that?

One World Religion is not the answer, and the Bible tells us that this will usher in the Anti-Christ. There is but ONE TRUE GOD. HIS NAME is JEHOVAH and HIS SON is JESUS.

sanna...the "peace and security" that they will be crying, based upon their "amalgamated building work", is not, and will not be, from God.

FOR HE IS THE GOD OF TRUTH. and the GOD OF JUSTICE.
and the GOD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Jesus IS THE WAY, and JESUS IS THE TRUTH, and JESUS IS THE LIFE.

there is not another way unto the Father, except through Him.

(please see my post just before your last one, dear sanna. do not be caught up in the deception that is going forth to all the nations.)

love,
bz

you really against that so much?

one religion would (theoritically) end all religious wars. and lets say you are correct, and "your" god is the one true god, who cares really? all would live in peace and harmony, Would THIS not be better then the chaos we see today? christianity is behind slavery and genocide,you may say they where not "true" christians,but it does not matter, because they say they are.

as you say you are "right".right and worng is subjective, there is no truth to it.so would you rather not see a world united whatever you agree about the details?

When the anti christ comes on the seen, you will know truth. The Bible says choose you this day, whom you will serve. As for me and my house we serve the true GOD, Jehovah.

ehm, but i asked you totell me HOW you know...why did you not answer?because you have no answer?or you just rude?

democracy, in "theory" was to be effective. it was the "great experiment".

tell me, has it been effective?

no, it has not.


""one religion would (theoritically) end all religious wars. and lets say you are correct, and "your" god is the one true god, who cares really? all would live in peace and harmony, Would THIS not be better then the chaos we see today? christianity is behind slavery and genocide,you may say they where not "true" christians,but it does not matter, because they say they are.""


satan claimed that men would "better themselves" by disobedience to God's Law, from the very beginning.....from Genesis.

and the "chaos we see today" is the manifest result of disobedience and disregard for the ONE TRUE GOD who gives to all men, life and breath. By Him we have life, and move and exist.

the most important thing of all?

Jesus said, you must pray then, in this manner:
OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN.....
HALLOWED (glorifed, sanctified, honored, declared as Good and PURE and TRUE)
BE THY NAME.

it, by far, is more important than any one thing....
it is of first, and foremost concern, to those that honor the Father, and honor his Son.

Great and WONDERFUL are YOUR works, Jehovah God, the ALmighty.
RIghteous and True are YOUR ways, King of Eternity!
WHO WILL NOT REALLY FEAR YOU, JEHOVAH,
and GLORIFY YOUR NAME,
because YOU ALONE are loyal?

For ALL THE NATIONS will come and worship before YOU,
BECAUSE YOUR RIGHTEOUS DECREES
have been MADE MANIFEST." --Revelation 15:3, 4.

mention of GOD...."YOU, or YOUR" (meaning the TRUE GOD)....
it is mentioned SEVEN times, in this verse.

yes, all the nations WILL HAVE TO KNOW THAT GOD IS JEHOVAH

and that JESUS CHRIST, IS HIS SON.

and then, there shall be peace upon earth....
for the meek shall inherit the earth,

but as for the wicked, they shall be torn away from it.

for it is written.

and it by the spirit of God that it is written, and not by the thoughts of men.

May the TRUE GOD, bless those who seek HIM in truth
and in spirit.
love,
bz

Oh, but I did answer your question and you refuse to accept the answer is JESUS. You call me rude, but I have offered you the truth in the love that only comes from GOD. That truth can set you free. Whomever believes in GOD'S SON, JESUS is free indeed. You cannot accept the truth because your heart is made of stone. You cannot hear or see the truth because you have scales over your eyes and ears. I am praying the LORD reveal himself to you, in a most miraculous way. May the LORD bless you always.

and so do you see? what is the truth concerning these 'would- be' "builders of the temple"' ?? LOL (WOULD-BE BUILDERS OF THE TEMPLE!!) HA-HA! (--what a funny!--what a TURN...what a REVERSAL!)
they even suppose, that they have "solomon's key"... (but they have ruined their "wisdom"... as it is written in Ezekiel 27, just like their father, the devil)
but they have missed the very KEY To knowledge and understanding and even all wisdom...
for they overlook the
key that is be found in the Christ, Jesus. For He is the key and he is the door.

woe to those who think themselves so wise....
but they have not enough sense to know WHO it is that feeds them.

Isaiah 1:3.

Let me just ask you something, Sanna,

HOW COME DO THEY ALWAYS MAKE MOVIES>>> AGAINST JESUS CHRIST>>> and not, let's say, against "The Secret Life of Buddha", or the "Mysterious Past of Mohammed", or "Atheists untold"???

You know why???
All religions beside Christianity are false religions, therefore, HAVING THEM WHERE HE WANTS THEM TO BE (on the road to perdition), Satan leaves them alone!

Alone the many discredits against Jesus are A MERE RED FLAG that this IS the only true religion,

OTHERWISE WHY WOULD SATAN BOTHER???

Seeing so-called "Christians" make such a peace of trash just proves me that there are some people around in SHEEP'S CLOTHING, and these are not necessary the ones we think!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!
I rest my case!

Dear Sanna,

At all times if we want to be true Christians, we have to strive to speak with the truth, the word of God, which is not ours, but from our Father in heaven. The word comes from Him, and is made perfect only thru him. What we are telling you today is only in hope that you'll gain understanding not in the current topic, but mostly of His great love, for we all strayed from the way before. What I can tell you in my very humble opinion, is that I never found truth until I received the miracle of getting to know the Lord.

So this being said, I can tell you a little more. There's evil in the world, and in our very own country. This is something I'm not making up. It's been written for more than thousands of years. This world that we are living in today, seeks for its own greatness, and its being deceived by a very clever enemy. All this things we've been talking about in this great forum, things like the One World Order (NWO), the apostasy, and many more prophecies are taking place, and have been written about in the Holy Bible. You might choose to ignore it, and choose to believe in just yourself, or nothing for that matter...but if you won't see God's promises taking place in the fullfillment of His prophecies, then the only thing left for me to say to you is this: With time, the Day of the Lord will come, and YOU TOO will know that HE IS THE LORD. For it is written in our great Lord's living Word:

"To open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison, and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness. I am the Lord that is my name! I will not give my glory to another, or my praise to idols. SEE THE FORMER THINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE, AND NEW THINGS I DECLARE, BEFORE THEY SPRING INTO BEING, I ANNOUNCE THEM TO YOU". Isaiah 42.

This is so far one of my favorite passages from the bible, in which God's promise of giving us the greatest gift of love through his son Jesus is made truth. Not only that but He is reminding us of the fullfilled prophecies He once spoke of, and also of the new ones that are to take place. So even the unveliebers, if by true honesty in their hearts, will choose to open their eyes, they will too see the glory of our Lords love. But it breaks my hearth Sanna, for it is also written: "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE, AND HAVE YET NOT SEEN".

I pray that in time you will choose to open your heart to the perfect love that Jesus died for. To SAVE YOU AND ALL OF US.

Certainly all religions getting together sounds appealing to a lot of people, but when you get to see BY HOURS, DAYS, WEEKS AND MONTHS, SOME PEOPLE EVEN RESEARCH FOR YEARS, that other religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism, have their ties and foundations with the esoteric, the spirit of craving power (for they seek to be gods, and they actually strive for emptiness), and the occult; you know they come from the evil one. That is the great reason why we can't be together!!! For we follow The True and only God, not the father of lies...We don't promise you "Enlightment", we don't tell you: Eat from the fruit and you'll be like God, for NO ONE CAN BE LIKEN GOD!!! We can't serve a deceiver, we don't want to be ONE with the deceivers. I HOPE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THIS DEAR. If you need proof of this, I'll give it to you, not by my wisdom, for I have none, I just have wisdom in the Lord. And that's what separates us from Buddhist's, Hindu's or any other religion in the world: WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO AKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY GREATER THAN US, "WHOSE LOVE IS PERFECT AND ORIGINS FROM OLD".

I pray dear Sanna that you come to understanding, because you will see it with your own eyes. Israel is now, again a nation, that was prophecy fullfilled, and like that there's a lot more. People not believing anymore in the true God is the apostasy itself, in fullfillment. But if you choose not to believe in the Lord; and it breaks my heart to say this, at least believe that evil is working in this world, and that it has been planning the great deception for a long time. Get a dollar bill, see it for yourself, google things like Illuminati, New World Order, Masons, Bohemian Groove, SEE WHAT OUR POLITICAL LEADERS BELIEVE IN, and you will see that is far more different than the promises our beloved Father is promising the faithfull since the beggining of times. See it for yourself in the links I placed in the first post, and SEE IT HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD TODAY!!!

Don't fall in the trap people like Helena Blavatsky and Alice Bailey were elaborating with their New Age plan and their theosophy, with their creation of the LUCIS TRUST THAT NOW SERVES THE UNITED NATIONS AND WHICH ORIGINAL NAME WAS LUCIFER TRUST. This "Novus Ordo Seclurum" (NWO) is looking to unite all faiths, all nations, and it will talk about peace and love, IT WILL GIVE YOU A NUMBER for you to buy or sell. And after all this apparent promises of love, IT WILL SHOW ITS REAL FACE. They've been working for hundreds of years (new agers), if you want to talk about masons, then since Egypt, for evil exists from long ago too. In the end it doesn't matter if you become an atheist, a new agers, a hindu, a pagan, a wiccan, or buddhist, though they work in apparently different ways, they serve the same master (notice the small caps , whose purpose is to take you away from the TRUE GOD. I hope dear you choose to believe, before all of this takes place.

In Jesus name I pray for you dear Sanna, to find the truth and love of our LORD (who loves you, and is for you and everybody, if they choose to seek him with a kind and open heart), amen.

Love to you and all the great kindhearted people in this forum, 2 Chronicles 32:7.

p.s. Great words from you both, Signet and BZ, God bless you both for spreading the truth, and for loving OUR LORD more than our nation, and our deceived world. Amen.

HE WHO IS GREAT, WHO IS LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS, WHO SERVES THE "ONLY TRUE GOD" SAYS: "HEAVEN AND EARTH WILL PASS AWAY, BUT MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY". Matthew 24:35. Amen!

Amen Tigger.
I think I am going to bounce around like Tigger and have joy in my heart, knowing that Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is with us always.
Praising Him into eternity.

love,
rosie

Jesus is the Master builder. My prayer partner had been grieving over the end of her Dad...(a 33 d. mason) Towards the end of his life, as he suffered in sickness on his death bed he told her he sees (saw) things differently. That he sees God differently. But she was burdened over him these last few years.

Then with the most awesome string of circumstances God showed us he has her father...He also showed us that HE is the Master Mason and He is building the house and all the plans of men will fail...What's the scripture? The plans of men's hearts are many...but Gods purpose will prevail?...






Bz...

Those things exist as the purpose of men but Gods purpose for our nation is the one for which it was created and it will prevail.

Some of you tote this idea around like heavy baggage and pass it on to others causing depression and discouragement. Oh folks! God's purpose and plan for our nation will prevail. No matter what men have done. What a wonderful and special confirmation my prayer partner and l got concerning her father!...But l needed to hear it too because of the struggles l entered into on this forum receiving the hopelessness portrayed in this kind of posting..

I just posted in 'Prophecy' section about what love is. A snippet:

It is not discourteous,
it is not selfish,
it is not irritable,
it does not enumerate the evil.
It does not rejoice over the wrong, but rejoices in the truth

Let's rejoice in the truth and not enumerate the evil of men's hearts.
God won my friends father and he will win the hearts and minds of men that seek after the truth...Even if they are looking in all the wrong places. Because he loves them and it's not his desire that any should perish.

oh miki, dear miki...

i know that you know of the 23rd chapter of Matthew..
tell me, when Jesus, the perfect Son of God's Love, spoke in this manner, would you also, by the same reasoning, ascribe to him the "enumeration of evil"?

in reading of the chapter of love, 1 Cor 13, and looking at various translations, it is apparent to me that when one does not "enumerate evil" (enumerate=count) it is meaning that one does not "keep account of the injury", or that one does not "keep track of the number of times a fellow has wronged us", or count, even up to 7 or even 77, the number times-- how often our brothers may injure us. (for we well remember that we, even we, have wronged others too! have we not? and that we need forgiveness too!)
FOr God is LOVE. and he does not reckon our sins to us, even as we deserve, but is freely forgiving when we are contrite and repentant.
He is faithful in this. and we are to become imitators of the Christ, just as Jesus imitated perfectly his Father, so much so that he could righty say, "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father also."
For He was obedient and pleased God in every detail and manner and way. Jesus was perfect. the Perfect Son of God. (and there is no other man that could or can claim this)

so that is how i understand that we are not to "enumerate evil".

but, is it then wrong, or evil, to expose evil? is it evil to expose a deception? is it not rather an act of love, to clearly show (to those that will hear), how the world is being decieved by the devil, and the means by which the devil does it?

for we are in a battle. and the battle is not with flesh and blood, but it is a spiritual one.

and i am fighting to help my fellows, to enable them to see, so as not to be misled.


miki, you wrote:
"Those things exist as the purpose of men but Gods purpose for our nation is the one for which it was created and it will prevail.... Oh folks! God's purpose and plan for our nation will prevail. No matter what men have done."


please enlighten me then, miki, along with other listeners, as to this question:

What do you say is the "purpose and plan for this nation", it being as you say, "of God".

what exactly do you mean by this statement?

God indeed has a "purpose" for all his works and wonders.
Just as it is written that God had a "purpose" in keeping Pharoah as king of Egypt for the time that he allowed.


what then, say you, is God's 'purpose' for this nation?

and, are you then suggesting that this nation is, in reality, "God's Kingdom"? The One we are taught to pray for-- for it to "Come?"

love to you miki, but i groan, as my heart aches and is made heavy.

-bz

I know your heart is heavy towards this because l felt it before you even read this.

Gods pupose dear sister is to pluck the white fields...His fields...not the enemies.

I don't want to enumerate the evil without the attachment of glory that God ascribes to works of his hands.

His "field" is the "whole world", dear sister. His "field" is the whole world of mankind, and is made up of every nation of men. And Yes, the harvest --He is looking to reap what he has sown, for he is the cultivator. He sowed fine wheat...but the weeds are now apparent among the wheat. An enemy did this oversowing of the wheat with weeds.

but... you still have not explained. Do i err to ask you? you speak of the "purpose of God" for this nation, america, specifically. What IS that purpose? since you claim to know it. please tell me.


and what "glory" has this nation brought to God? or God's Kingdom? Or his SOn?
no, they do not glorify God except, with their lips. The very heart is far removed from God.
for they glorify themselves.
they do not honor the Son, neither to they honor the Father, but yet they claim "in God we trust".

they trust, not in God, but in an "arm of flesh" and a "hammer of iron", the weapons of their own making. the arms of their own flesh.

But the weapons of God's servants are not fleshly.

-bz

God's purposes are always for good and not evil and l don't claim knowledge of his fullness... for who can know the mind of God...

May God continue to bless America...

And even though she may fall, let her be raised up again in Christ and for his glory. Because the good work he's begun in her he's faithful to complete.

We see the weeds but l won't enumerate them anymore because it lead me into grief and despair. I will praise the Lord for HIS purposes and plans and not condemn

Love you bz but l won't be swayed in this.

AMEN TIG,
Glory to God in the Highest, Peace on Earth good will towards man..

Those who decieve use a false peace...the real peace is Salvation of Christ Jesus the ONE and ONLY GOD.

The deceiver is a light bearer for sure, Don't be fooled....he grabs you in only to condemn you to Hell with him later....COME TO JESUS he loves you.

THANK GOD, he has taken the keys of Hell away from the deceiver, and he offers his grace to those Seeking his face.

Don't deny Christ...he loves you dearly. Only in Him is truth and life and the peace that surpasseth all understanding.


Rev.13. 10
He that leadeth into captivity, he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Rev 14: 6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.

7. Saying with a LOUD VOICE, FEAR GOD, and give GLORY TO HIM: for the hour of his judment is come, and worship him that made heaven and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8. And there followed another angel, saying Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
ALL WE NEED DO TO RECOGNISE this verse is the state of the Nations now, and the false peace treaties about to be signed. GOD IS OUR PEACE and our strength.

9. And the third angel followed them, saying with a LOUD VOICE. IF any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand.

10. The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of GOD, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.

Isn't this enough to make one tremble...It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God...unless you Cry out to him for mercy and obey in his grace and love...he is merciful and forgiving, and loves all that PRAISE HIS NAME JESUS....not because he wants to be unequally yoked above you...but because JOY comes for all those who love in Purity through the Resurrection of Jesus who died for all sinners....and he will lead you to a lasting peace in all his Righteous Glory and TRUTH...he is the Truth and the LIFE and the only WAY...one heart, one mind, one soul, one flesh...he paid it all for YOU.

11. And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the FAITH OF JESUS.

KEEP thy faith....IN JESUS WE TRUST...not man-made God's. AMEN

i love you too, dear sister, dear miki. (and you know that i do.)

and i will not press you, nor will i pin you further on this matter.

RATHER, please let me tell you, for your encouragment, and for your hope to be strengthend, in spite of all the wickedness we see,
THE GOOD NEWS!!

THE GOOD NEWS!! ABOUT GOD'S KINGDOM!!

THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT GOD's KINGDOM!! is that it is not dependent upon man! nor in the efforts of men, nor their plans, (however noble or well-intentioned) nor their schemes, nor is it from this source, the kingdoms of mere men..
AND THIS GOOD NEWS IS TO BE DECLARED IN ALL THE EARTH!
It is the KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS!!

and JESUS CHRIST? why, HE IS GOD'S VERY OWN SON! GOD PERSONALLY APPOINTS AND ANNOINTS THE KING!! The KING OF KINGS! the LORD OF LORDS! JESUS!

JESUS OUR KING! He has already demonstrated what marvelous things we shall see under His KINGDOM rulership of this earth!! The forgiveness of sins! The raising of the dead! The true and lasting cures for all illness and infimity! The feeding of the multitides!! The abundance of truth and mercy and justice! not for some, but in truth, for ALL! The elimination of war! The uniting of God's creation into a true brotherhood and men of goodwill!
The compassion for the weak! The teaching of the meek!!
And even, the ability to control the weather, the wind, and the waves of the sea!

THE RESTORATION OF PARADISE!!!!

GOD'S ORIGINAL PURPOSE FOR THIS EARTH!!

His PURPOSE shall not go unfulfilled or unrealized!!


AND We pray for it to COME! and it will come.

YES!! MAY GOD'S KINGDOM COME!!!

and may HIS WILL BE DONE, ON EARTH! as it is IN HEAVEN!!

this IS INDEED!!! GOOD NEWS!! dear miki!!! dear miki!!!



but as for these kingdoms of men, the nations? The second Psalm tells us the truth about all the kingdoms of men, past and present.
The book of Daniel, a book of the times of the end, tells us what God's Kingdom will do....to the IMAGE....made by men, the image, in reality, of the beast, satan the devil, the original serpent, the dragon.

this image made by men, inspired by the devil, the ruler of this world, to whom the all the kingdoms of this world, their power, and authority, were delivered unto...

he and they, those in oppostition, will be utterly defeated and utterly destroyed. for he is in opposition to GOD and in OPPOSITION to GOD's KINGDOM. and he hates those that follow the lamb, and those that obey God, and those who bear witness to the Truth about the SON of GOD and the KINGDOM of GOD.

For ALL THESE KINGDOMS WILL BE CRUSHED, and GOD'S KINGDOM ITSELF WILL STAND!! EVEN TO TIMES INDEFINITE!! FOR IT IS WRITTEN!

and GOD's WORD WILL NOT RETURN TO HIM EMPTY. BUT IT WILL SURELY DO ALL THAT HE SENT IT FORTH TO ACCOMPLISH, AND HE SHALL SURELY CAUSE IT TO BECOME.
AND HE SHALL SURELY ACCOMPLISH ALL HIS PURPOSES.

FOR HIS WORD IS TRUTH!

and you know the very words spoken to the Roman governor by Jesus.
MY KINGDOM IS NO PART OF THIS WORLD!!!
MY KINGDOM IS NOT FROM THIS SOURCE!!
he spoke truth and he spoke what is true!


AND I PUBLICLY PRAISE THE FATHER! AND PUBLICLY PRAISE THE SON!
for promising this everlasting good news and the hope of that promise, and the joy it gives me to proclaim it as the true hope for this world...
THE KING and HIS KINGDOM!! LOOK!! HE IS COMING!!

GIVE IN YOU NATIONS!! AND KNOW THAT HE IS GOD!!
AND BOW BEFORE THE TRUE KING!
SUBMIT TO HIS RULERSHIP!
OR PERISH IN THE WAY!

-bz

BZ, God bless you, you know the truth and you can see evil. Miki, please try too understand, that the britherhood of evil (masons, skull & ,bones, builderberg, even the UN, the illuminati) they are not working for the true GOD!!! their lesser god is no other than satan himself! please try to understand, research on it, don't close yourself on the idea that America or any other country can't be wrong. They are all over the world, and their fake and worthless god, the "emissary of light" for they call themselves enlighted is no other than Lucifer, they call him jabuhlon. Please miki flee from masonry, they are deep in within the occult, their initiations, their procedures, so secret are based on satanism, Anton Levvy is proud to speak about that. Albert Pike (father of the KKK) said it himself: They should work for Lucifer. Please everyone: Don't love America more than OUR LORD, THE TRUE LORD, for in him is the ONLY AND TRUE NATION. I pray for you, and I commit myself into helping guiding you with the everlasting love of christ, and that's what we all want to do in this forum. Please don't be deceived, for it is written: even the elect will be deceived. I don't have time to write a lot on the subject right now, and I'm planning on doing a lot more later, but please miki I pray, just follow Jesus, don't fall on the trap of the secret order. They claim themselves christians, but they are not. Remmember the Lord, for I know and I'm sure you love HIM with all your heart.

God bless you Blindzebra, please keep fighting. "For there is a greater power with us than with him. With him is the arm of flesh, but with us is the Lord our God, to help us and to fight our battles". 2 Chronicles 32:7 Amen!!!

After reading your post, I remember reading a book Uriel's Machine, written by a pair of Masons. They admitted that the origin of Mason ritual has nothing to do with Judism or Christianity, it's the pagan worship of the planet Venus. Orginally, the masons were a labor union of stone workers who built the cathedrals in the Middle Ages, but then the wealthy elite were allowed to join and they brought with them their secret Satanic rituals they've been practicing for generations into the Masons. National Geographic did a special on them, but it wasn't a docuementry, it was Mason proproganda. National Geo couldn't even get the rumors about them right!


Dreamed 5/22/06
Dreamed there was a building with Palestinians and Israelies in it. The Palestinians were on the ground floor, and the Israelies were in the basement, trapped with their backs againist the wall and no where to run. The Palestinians hated the people so much they wanted to kill every man, woman, and child. The Palestinians would guard the only door in and out so any Israeli going out or comming would be harrassed by them. I confronted these Palestinians, and they couldn't look me in the eye. When more Israelies came in, I threw cold milk on one of them, and she flinched. I told her, you got to toughen up. (You need to practice not flinching when you are assaulted, because it's going to get much, much worse). She wasn't tough enough to stay, so she left. The Palestinians were ready to deal the final death blow, and begin exterminating all Israelies. A package arrived from the USA. It was the most powerful laser weapon ever devised. The Israelies sat in the door way to the basement so it was between them and the Palestinans. I stood with the Israelies, and could feel the terror they were feeling, I knew too, the Palestinians were hesitating. I left the building and went outside to see the results of this weapon's test. I looked up at the sky and saw the moon after the weapon was tested againist it, and I also saw an image of the moon before the weapon was used againist it. The moon had been broken into 3 large hunks, and now the moon was just 3 hunks of rock floating together. I said to the person next to me, "Look, they destroyed the moon!" (the crescent moon is a symbol of Isalm, and is borrowed by Isalm from a pagan worship cult of the moon).

Next, I was out in the country, and explored an old building that used to belong some kind of mystery cult, and now it was ambandoned. I wanted to get to the bottom of the mystery. There was no furniture, just room after dusty room. There was no glass in the windows. Finally, I came to a room with a bed in it. A large, black, muscular looking creature that vaguely resembled Anubus ( as a man with the head of a dog or jackal, Egyptian god of the dead http://sobek.colorado.edu/LAB/GODS/anubis.html). I knew he was demon, but he was calm, and showed no hostility whatsoever. This was because he knew he was powerless over me, and he only had one job, protect the cults secrets, now he was comanded by God to reveal the secrets he hid. He got up off the bed and talked me for a little bit. A female demon came in. She was thin, her skin was black like Anubis, and her face was really twisted. When I saw her, I recongnized her to be Isis. ( http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/1582/egyptiang.html , page down and you'll see Isis with wings ). She handed me a statuette that was like a wand in the shape of Isis, with the headgear and the wings, made of pure gold. The only difference, is that the Nazi swatzika emblem was on the sun disc, and it's meaning was the same as it was from Nazi Germany. The wings broke off in my hands. Anubus came over and showed me how the wings were supposed to fit. I realized the same demon powers that powered the pagan Egyptian & Middle East pagan worship was the same denomic force behind Nazi Germany, it was the exact same cult behind both! This Egyptian mystery cult is still active, it just changed it's name and hides.


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I've looked at this dream, did some research, and here's the results. The building where the Israelies and Palestinans occupy represents the land of Israel. Orginally, the Israelies occupied all the floors, but they surrendered all the floors to the Palestinans till the Israelies have backed themselves up into a corner with no more room to go. The milk I throw at the person trying to come to Israel is a a reference to 'milk and honey' the Promised Land is filled with. I was trying to tell her emphatically, anyone who wants to be an Israeli must toughen up, and not flinch anymore when the Palestinans hurl insults and threats because it's going to get much worse now. The Palenstians want now to finish what Hitler started. None of them could look me in the eyes and tell me what they were doing was right. It's very scary to be an Israeli right now in this situation. The USA will, with it's actions and not with it's words, let's both sides know it has developed an ultimate force of destruction, which they freely give to Israel but, it's little comfort to them. The USA will demostrate a terrible new weapon that will make nuclear or atomic weapons obsolete. So great will it be, the world will tell the passing of time by it, every event will be described in history from now on will be described as being before the event or after it, just like people today say 'pre-911' and 'post-911' events. It's a defining moment, one that says gone is all hope for peace, now there is only the age of war. Of course, this could be just nuclear weapons, that the US gives to Israel but this is not what I felt, I felt that this was new...

Anubis is the Egyptian god of the dead. He is also associated with the Eye of Horus (also known as: The Eye of the Illuminati, The Eye of Lucifer, which is on the back of our dollar bills) and Isis weaved the cloth used by Anubis in mumification. Isis and Satan both share a title: : Light Bringer (lucifer means light bringer) Anubis the opener of pathways of the North, and Isis, is the queen of the North. A white cock is sacrificed to Anubis. Both cults were still practiced long after Christianity took over the Roman Empire. Isis brings back her husband Osiris from the dead ( false resurrection) and is able to get beings to do her will with her voice ( a seducing spirit!). The Egyptian and Babylonians cults really never died. They are in another form, still being practiced by secret societies such as the Illuminati. They want to destroy Christianity and Judism and restore pagan worship! NAZI Germany was powered by this, ( definitely had its roots in mystery cult secret societies in Germany), and was part of an ongoing war with God's choosen people and His Christian elect from the begining to eliminate worship of the one true GOD!
It's Satan's plot! Satan tried to use pagan worship to destroy the Jews while they were slaves in Egypt ( pharoah thought he was a god) and while Jews were captive in Babylon (Marduk, Babyonian god of war, they also worshiped Isis in the form of Ishtar). The statuate with the broken wings symbolize God will break the power of seducing and lying spirits...and He will utterly desolate the cult of pagan worship! People will realize these gods, these demons they worship, have no power to save them when disaster hits!

Here's some links I used

: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Rel...ti/symbols_of_t
he_illuminati.htm

http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swasti15.htm

http://www.touregypt.net/ANUBIS.htm

I already know all that stuff about illuminati...I was involved in it remember!

You don't have to convince me. I'm just saying l'd like to stay focus on Gods plans. It's discouraging and depressing to keep harping on the same old thing.

We seem to always turn the corner in our conversations and they lead back here.

did you know that the church lacks spiritual power because of
unbelief.

Matthew 13:58
"And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief".

Incorporated religion denies the faith, yet faith is set free through
the corporate bride.

Signet

Praise the LORD JESUS for the enemy hates this!!!
I was surprised and yet not so for in beleif I wrote the verses here on this post... quoted BEFORE I had read the web-site provided. Total Onslaught #5. And at the very end of it... the same scripture was said by the man doing the program.
Could this be a confirmation to me.(Be appoved by God...trust in the LORD. I beleive In Jesus's word...and maybe so a warning to us all to not be easily mislead by words and doctrines twisted around to benefit our own beleifs...and needs...but the HOLY SPIRIT be upon us all in all truth the WORD of the HOLY BIBLE. LOOK to the ONE and only Jesus our deliverer and provider of all things...Trust in the LORD our God with all your heart and all your soul. The provider of all our needs and the deliver of our souls.

Let us be aproved by God, in all things pray and ask.

I was lead to Isaiah 29 today:
19. The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy one of Israel.
20. For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off.
21. That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.
22. Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale.
23. But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel.
24. They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.

Lets all remember when man trys to discredit the work of God our HOLY FATHER of all the living by taking somehow trying to credit for it and not glorifying Jesus...Jesus the son of the Living GOD...BEWARE. For in the last days there will be many decieved by false peace plans and false miracles... in this is we should always look to Jesus in prayer and supplications..he will lead us to all truth and he will reveal the lies of the nations and false prophets.

May he renew us daily in his Living word.

His "field" is the "whole world", dear sister. His "field" is the whole world of mankind, and is made up of every nation of men. And Yes, the harvest --He is looking to reap what he has sown,
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The 'HE' whose field is the whole world has been defined by the Catholic Church and they WILL reap what they have sown. Starting from Jerusalem.

all american movies i seen made usually have "god" in them, where they pray for god, or thank god or whatnot. so americaqn movies are without a doubt christian.



eh, says who? YOU?
cool, so you know which religion is true, amazing.how do you know?what do you base this on? have you read all the other religions books and history? how many years od reaserch into it did you decide to "know" the truth?

i hope you realize you have either been indoctrinated when a child, or very very poorly educated. there are THOUSANDS of religions,how come YOURS is the right one?what do you base THAT on? nothing other then that "you think so".

so dont judge others,please.

Sanna

So can we ask you WHO are you asking? You are asking MAN for their beleifs???

Do you pray?

God's Blessings be upon you, for in seeking God he will REVEAL to you ALL truth.

Do you beleive in the SEEN only and not the UNSEEN?

Can you see LOVE, and can you materialize beauty in AWE?

Do you understand the difference between the Spirit of Religion and the Spirit of Grace in Christ Jesus our LORD?


Amazing Grace, how great THOU ART, you LORD will guide all hearts to you, for the desire of the Nations is Peace, and that peace cannot be found within the seen, but only in the hearts of those searching for your FACE.
Angry or frustrated, trying to find the peace that surpasseth all understanding...scorned and torn by the thorns of life that lead to anger, not comforted by any outside force, and denying the love that draws all hearts of the ONE HEART whom loves his children. As a parent loves their Child, the innocense is removed by doubts and fears and lack of trust in anyone or anything...and unwilling to submission to the purity and grace of our HOLY FATHER JESUS.
Jesus loves to love you, his arms are stretched out still...calling his children home.

HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS...IN CHRIST we give all the GLory.