"The data also show that the human-chimp split probably took millions of years. That's because in some parts of the DNA sequence the genetic difference between humans and chimps is so large that those genes must have been isolated from each other nearly 10 million years ago. But in other places the human and chimp lines are so close that they appear to have still been swapping genetic material at least until 6.3 million years ago."


Okay! I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair at the statement above! Here is the link to the article....very interesting!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/17...t.ap/index.html

There isn't a monkey in our family tree, science is proving it too!

I think that some people's split was much more recent!

Ask yourself why the ape is so similar to man in that the only difference is that with apes there is hair all over the body. The mixture of spirit and flesh will produce such. My belief is that the helper of Adam went searching for the knowledge of how to multiply and replenish the earth and came across the tree of knowledge of good and evil and she saw that knowledge did what she wanted so she learned it and passed it on to the spirit with her and that became our way of doing it. The spirit was Adam.
The helper may have been the gorilla. You can take the story of incest in the Old Testament as being the desire of the flesh to go back to being spirit.

That is interesting to say the least, but the Bible is clear on what Eve was, a woman. Also the Bible does not look well on mating with animals. So that ends that idea. Adam's helepmate was a woman, named Eve, who was created out of Adam's rib, by GOD, in GOD'S image.

one tigger,
Pay careful attention to the FACT that Eve was not named Eve by God but by Adam. The helper that was the flesh and bone of Adam was not named woman by God but by Adam. Eve did not exist until after the man and his helper was cast from the garden. Man was created in the likeness of God, not the image. Woman was the image, woman was the helper. Laws were brought in to stop the transgression.
There is 2 creations in Genesis. The first creation is still running along with no problems. The second creation fell and cannot get back up.

Genesis 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Nope, no ape there in that scripture. GOD'S WORD was clear.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

The serpant doesn't come on the seen until after Eve was created, FROM Adam's rib, by GOD. They are of the same flesh. See Genesis 3. The serpant is talking to the woman, Eve, not a helper.

I'm curious, gregg. Where are you referencing from?

2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
4:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve because she was the mother of all living.
That is sorta what popped into my head. But, starting in Genesis 5 is the family record of Adam. Is this another creation parallel to the first? Eve is not there in the second, starting at 5:1 and the record of the birth of Enoch is recorded two different ways(4:17,5:18); by two different fathers. The first is from Cain who was cast from the presence of the Lord (Cain was the firstborn of Adam and Eve) and the second is from Jared who is in the line of Adam.
I also noticed that in 4:23, Lamech had two wives and killed a man and in 5:28 Lamech gave birth to Noah (curious thing Lamech lived 777 years). Tell me, is there a hidden point in the recording of the birth of Enos (4:26) because men began to call on the name of the Lord and the birth of Enoch (5:24) who walked with God and was taken? In these two places that appear to be with two different lines, one line has Lord and the other God. I have been told that in the writings of old, there could not be any error in writing because no error was allowed. . .
Questions, questions. . .
In 1:26, Adam was made in the image and likeness of God, but in 3:22, I believe the image of God was taken away, (Behold, the man has become like one of us. . . )
In 5:2, Adam was created in the likeness of God and in 5:3 Seth was born in the image of Adam.

When the simplest sense makes the most sense, that is usually the right sense.

I don't believe that evolution took place at all.

God's creation was perfect (at the end of the creation week, God pronounced it as "very good").

However, evolution stipulates that there had to millions of years of death, dying, and disease BEFORE man was created. That is NOT good. It flies in the face of God's Word and a "very good" creation.

It doesn't make sense.

I have never heard this theory. I can tell you that it is scriptually unsound.

Eve was a woman. When Adam saw her beauty (which is why Eve was created LAST... she was the crowning touch in all creation), Adam's response in modern vernacular was "WOW"! I mean... picture it gentlemen... a purely holy moment of course... but a fully nude woman made in God's perfect image. That is enough to make any man say wow.

Man reflects some of God's personality. God is a warrior, He is a pursuer, and He loves to protect us. All of these are male qualities (in His image He created them).

A woman also reflects God's characterisitcs. God loves to be pursued, is beautiful, and He nurtures us (in His image He created them).

Yes, the sixth day God saw his creation and called it very good. Then he created man from the dust of the earth and said after some time, 'I repent, I repent, I repent!' And so God drowned all but eight people. So, you could say that there is 3 creations in the bible. In the mind of God, on the earth with God, And after the flood Noah became the God, cursing Canaan and blessing Shem and Japheth. Ham caused Canaan to be cursed because of Ham's mouth got him in trouble, telling his brothers that his father was naked.

You've got to be kidding! The only difference is that apes have hair all over their body? Take an ape, any ape. Shave it and will you call it a woman? I can just see one in a swimsuit

The mixture of Spirit and flesh will produce such? I'd like to know where you get your ideas. Why do you guys try so hard to not believe God? You are compelled to dismiss TRUTH with ludicrous theories. You feel wise in doing so but you show yourself to be ignorant as to the truth amongst those who understand that all truth belongs to God. Again, why can't you believe the simple unconvoluted truth as revealed by the very one who designed and created everything including the laws that govern His creation?

Gregg, I fear for your soul. You will have to give an account for your life to the very one that you deny. Why would you even believe that Adam was real if you don't believe that the bible is true? Do you believe in God? If so then why don't you believe His Word? You are on shaky ground. Do you believe that your spirit will survive the death of your body? What will happen to you then? What is the basis for your answers? Will you stake your eternal destiny on them? "It is appointed unto men once to die, then the judgement". Who do you suppose does the judging? And who is exempt from that Judgement? Only those who believe God and have accepted the atoning death of His Son Jesus the Christ as payment for their sins so that they be forgiven. This is for those who believe. This can be for you too Gregg. Only believe God and receive Jesus His son.