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Tzeitel
Well, its been an eventful Sunday today.

I could see out of my window some people knocking door to door carrying information in their hands. I guessed it was either Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses. Normally, I would just answer the door and say no thank you but I rushed upstairs to my computer and and printed off a Christian tract pointing out the errors of both the Mormon and JW faith and what the bible says in reply to their doctrines.

The knock came at the door and I asked the man and woman standing there where they were from, they were JW's. I asked them to listen to me and I read to them The Truth, I was mocked and kept being interrupted (the man made a comment about me not pausing for breath!!). The woman rebuked me and said what I was saying was all lies. They wouldnt listen. You could see they wanted to run from me but I stopped them, I said I would only take their magazine if they took the tract I was reading from but they refused and continued to argue. I shut the door.

I have been feeling sad all day about this. Not because of their reaction to me but because of their reaction to the Word. I also felt that I could have done more but they wouldnt listen, it was like chipping away at a heart of stone using a toothpick. But what I realised is that not my words but only The Word can break hearts of stone and make the scales from eyes of the decieved fall away.

If any of you feel compelled, could you please pray for them with me?

Heavenly Father,
I bring before your throne of grace the two Jehovahs Witnesses that came to visit today. I forgive them Lord and ask if you would speak to their hearts and show them the truth.
You are the one true God, the king of the universe, the alpha and omega and ask for your mercy for the lost and deceived. I ask of these things through your Son, Jesus Christ, the light of the world, Amen.
senteami3
oh baby, Tzeitel.... sleep.gif 1dsz5h3.gif

Do not worry darling, what you did was great! You planted a seed, it's now up to God to perform His salvation work in them... wink.gif

They realized how obtuse they were; I'm sure! They did not like it because they knew they were wrong.

When I see Tom Cruise on TV with his strange cult ideas (you'd expect more from one making millions...), I think of those people; they have it all; they think they will go to Heaven when they die and yet, if they were to die today, they would go to a sad-sad place called hell sad.gif ; and I tell myself that it's still a blessing if they are alive today because each additional day is one more chance for them to hear the gospel. smile.gif 1dsz5e4.gif

Not bad, don't you think? 1dsz5h3.gif 1dsz5h3.gif 1dsz5h3.gif happy.gif
PraisingYeshua
QUOTE(senteami3 @ May 14 2006, 02:31 PM)
You planted a seed, it's now up to God to perform His salvation work in them... wink.gif



And don't forget...one of His greatest wonders...a pearl...starts with a tiny, seemingly insignificant seed. Praise G-d for the opportunity to spead His truth! Don't feel sad...just praise Him...He brought them to you for a reason...and He has you, and them, in His care. Praise Him!
PraisingYeshua
QUOTE(gregg @ May 14 2006, 05:25 PM)
First of all, they were not pretending to be someone else, so how could they believe you?


Ummmm...huh?? Could you clarify this a bit?


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What is that called?  A slight form of bribery.


Then what exactly would you call it when a JW begs, and even demands, you take their tracts? She was more than willing to take their tracts...it's really neither here nor there that she put a condition on it.


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This couple had a message for you and your heart was hardened by what you believed.


Hardened by biblical truth? huh.gif



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Jehovah is a God of Peace.


Agreed...and One easily angered.




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Jehovah sent His son into the world to seek and save the lost.  His son became flesh and dwelt among us.


Ahh..see...now you're getting into that whole trinity thing...something I personally don't believe in.



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We are ALL members of the body of Jesus Christ.


And from experience, I can say that many are also misled, as I was when I was a practicing Mormon for 15 years.



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Yes, this couple had a message for you


And perhaps, it was a message not OF G-d.



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but don't let your heart be troubled



That is exactly why we've all been uplifting her, so that her mildly troubled heart could prayerfully rest in His Truth.



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it will now come to you through circumstance.


And we will continue to prayerfully uplift her, should the message be a false one.
Shaun333
I had some JW's (older man and a younger man) knock on my door about 2 months ago. They were polite enough, and the older man did all the talking. He was trying to give me the JW handbook thing and I said no and explained that I am a non-denominational Christian that believes in Jesus. I told him I believed that Jesus was physically resurrected for my sins (to which JW's don't ascribe to) and that didn't sit well with him. He seemed to get agitated and was polite, but pushy if you can understand that.

He kept wanting me to take the book and I said that I'd just throw it out the minute he left (to be blunt, but not in a mean way) and told him to keep it for someone else. The younger man looked very uncomfortable. I felt bad for him actually. Anyway, before he left, (the older guy), he said that he hoped I would eventually "come around", lol. I told him that's exactly what I was thinking about him. None of this exchange was a fight or anything, just a bit tense from his end. I actually wasn't tense in the least, lol.


On a side note, when I was a kid in Los Angeles, in the early 80's, we had Michael Jackson, I kid you not, show up on our doorstep hawking the JW lifestyle. It was very strange. This was when you could still recognize him and he didn't carry a separate bag for his nose. blink.gif
ducktapehero
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This was when you could still recognize him and he didn't carry a separate bag for his nose.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That was funny.

As far as the JW's? Ya done good. I rarely have JW's but have had Mormons a couple times. I always invite them to Church but they're not interested.
jhamner
QUOTE(gregg @ May 14 2006, 05:25 PM)
'...but I rushed upstairs to my computer and and printed off a Christian tract pointing out the errors of both the Mormon and JW faith and what the bible says in reply to their doctrines.

First of all, they were not pretending to be someone else, so how could they believe you?

'I said I would only take their magazine if they took the tract I was reading from but they refused and continued to argue.'

What is that called?  A slight form of bribery.
This couple had a message for you and your heart was hardened by what you believed.  Jehovah is a God of Peace.  Jehovah sent His son into the world to seek and save the lost.  His son became flesh and dwelt among us.  We are ALL members of the body of Jesus Christ.  Yes, this couple had a message for you, but don't let your heart be troubled, it will now come to you through circumstance.
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Perhaps you should read up on JW.

Christians and JW do not believe in the same God.
Marta
QUOTE(jhamner @ May 14 2006, 06:09 PM)
QUOTE(gregg @ May 14 2006, 05:25 PM)
'...but I rushed upstairs to my computer and and printed off a Christian tract pointing out the errors of both the Mormon and JW faith and what the bible says in reply to their doctrines.

First of all, they were not pretending to be someone else, so how could they believe you?

'I said I would only take their magazine if they took the tract I was reading from but they refused and continued to argue.'

What is that called?  A slight form of bribery.
This couple had a message for you and your heart was hardened by what you believed.  Jehovah is a God of Peace.  Jehovah sent His son into the world to seek and save the lost.  His son became flesh and dwelt among us.  We are ALL members of the body of Jesus Christ.  Yes, this couple had a message for you, but don't let your heart be troubled, it will now come to you through circumstance.
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Perhaps you should read up on JW.

Christians and JW do not believe in the same God.
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Amen JHamner....so true and they also created their own Bible..the Living Word I think? Where they ADDED STUFF and TOOK AWAY from the scriptures the GOD-BREATHED INSPIRED WORD OF THE ALMIGHTY!!

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TZ (Sarah), I would have done the same thing...gotten all excited about a chance to witness to them!!! You planted the seed and God will do the rest!!

GOOD FOR YOU!!

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~veronique~
TZETZEIL (SORRY STILL LEARNING HOW TO POST) LOL

SAYS
The knock came at the door and I asked the man and woman standing there where they were from, they were JW's. I asked them to listen to me and I read to them The Truth, I was mocked and kept being interrupted (the man made a comment about me not pausing for breath!!). The woman rebuked me and said what I was saying was all lies. They wouldnt listen. You could see they wanted to run from me but I stopped them, I said I would only take their magazine if they took the tract I was reading from but they refused and continued to argue. I shut the door.
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At one time I was really studying both of these (mormons, and JW's)
And they came to my door, I listened and they actually made an "appointment" to come back a few days later.

Boy was I ever ready..........I didn't mind if they read, or argued.....just so long as they stayed with me there, and maybe ONE LESS in the neighborhood would be visited

they were so mad at me, lol....later I found out that they have a "board they write on back at their building"........and my name / address on it, to "NOT VISIT".........lol Please understand, I am NOT tooting my horn...
jhamner
1 John 2 18-27

18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.

26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

~veronique~
QUOTE(PraisingYeshua @ May 14 2006, 03:41 PM)
QUOTE(senteami3 @ May 14 2006, 02:31 PM)
You planted a seed, it's now up to God to perform His salvation work in them... wink.gif



And don't forget...one of His greatest wonders...a pearl...starts with a tiny, seemingly insignificant seed. Praise G-d for the opportunity to spead His truth! Don't feel sad...just praise Him...He brought them to you for a reason...and He has you, and them, in His care. Praise Him!
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Praising Yeshua,

May I ask, are you a Jewish/Christian?
Why spell God G-d?
Just curious
jhamner
Gregg:

I have personally seen the Holy Spirit. It was not Jesus. It was not the Father. I saw Him. He looked like an Angel on FIRE hovering over my bed.

He touched me and electricity ran throughout my entire body. Since then, my walk with God has NEVER been the same.

Jesus knows that I am not lieing.

It seems that you have held on to some of your Mormon beliefs. I have a student whose grandmother is Mormon and whose mother just gave her life to Christ (and left the Mormon church). He is very confused. He doesn't know whom to believe- his grandmother or his mother. This student has come to me with questions. These questions have helped me get an education on Mormonism (and fast). One of his main objections to Christianity is the truth of the Trinity. Another thing he believes is that Jesus was created by the Father. Just curious, do you adhere to this teaching as well???
PraisingYeshua
Honestly gregg, I can make little sense of your post, due to broken tags. If you can edit the tags, for clarity, I would be more than happy to reply. As it is, it is too muddled...again, due to broken tags...not by intent.
PraisingYeshua
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 14 2006, 07:38 PM)
Praising Yeshua,

May I ask, are you a Jewish/Christian?
Why spell God  G-d?
Just curious



No, I am not, but to me, His name is very dear, and I hold It highly. We cannot fortell the future, and I would hate to ever have to delete His name, erase It, etc. So, I use G-d...everyone knows what I mean, yet should It have to be deleted, etc, then I am not deleting anything other than an inference. His name is too precious to me to use lightly, or casually. It' a personally choice.

On the side, I am friends with numorous messianic jews, and didn't know for a long time that it is a common jewish practice.
RosielovesJesus
QUOTE(ducktapehero @ May 14 2006, 06:00 PM)
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This was when you could still recognize him and he didn't carry a separate bag for his nose.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That was funny.

As far as the JW's? Ya done good. I rarely have JW's but have had Mormons a couple times. I always invite them to Church but they're not interested.
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A separate bag for his nose.
Oh my gosh Shaun, that is just too funny.
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PraisingYeshua
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First of all, they were not pretending to be someone else, so how could they believe you?

Who wrote the biblical information that was gotten off of the
computer?


Again...what? You are being very unclear.




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What is that called?  A slight form of bribery.

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Such as, if you take this I'll take that.


I do understand what a bribe is, and I understood the inference.





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Yes, that is a form of bribery and it is the whole situation of nobody is studying and EVERYBODY is 'tired of hearing.


Okay, I think I understand what you are saying here...however, is it really wise to study that which has rewritten His Word? Can you honestly say it is wise??!





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No, hardened by what you thought about them. 
That is how your heart gets hardened.  Those who hold God in aversion usually do so because they THINK that God did something to them that He didn't.


First, you are making a huge assumption to think you know her heart! Secondly, how is her heart hardened? She knows the truth in regards to how JW have changed His Word...are you really going to suggest that she be open to false witness about our Father? And who, precisely, are you suggesting is holding G-d in aversion???





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He gets so angry with ignorance.


And with those changing His Word!





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All are one.


Yes...ONE Yeshua IS G-d! The Holy Spirit IS G-d! Not three separate entities.




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O, I see what you are saying, Mormons are not of the body; so you were grafted in the body


Those are your words, not mine. I did say I was misled...and having lived that for 15 years, I guarantee you, Mormons are misled to a great extent. As for grafting in...we're ALL grafted in.




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And we will continue to prayerfully uplift her, (((should?))) the message be a false one.


I was trying to be diplomatic. I have no doubt the message of JW is indeed a false one!




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That is, the Spirit of truth whom Jesus will send.


And the great deceiver sits idly by, innocent, and would never use those whom are deceived by him, to further his deceptions, right?
jhamner
QUOTE(gregg @ May 14 2006, 08:17 PM)
It seems that you have held on to some of your Mormon beliefs.

That is interesting, putting words that you have not seen or heard into what I believe, even though I believe the horse and buggy would be better for inner city dwellers.  But I don't care for their black suits and bonnets.  I might be confusing Mormons with Quakers, though.
My belief is that before Jesus Christ came, all of the sinners who were of the family of Jehovah had no hope.  They were all dead.  Jesus Christ came and saved some of them, He was the resurrection.  He became the life of men, so we have the chance to have life and that more abundantly.  He is not going to come back to save us from our sins, but he will return to those who are expecting him.  This is all in the bible.
I have never been a Mormon, I am the grandson of a Dutch Presbyterian minister and I continue with the Presbyterian system of things, the elders.
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I'm sorry, I misunderstood.

I know I read somewhere on this thread that "someone" was in the Mormon church for 15 years. I thought it was you, I apologize.

Please don't be angry. sad.gif
PraisingYeshua
Wait a minute...I see where the mix-up occured.

jhamner...it was myself...PraisingYeshua...who was a member of the Mormon church for 15 years. I think the misunderstanding came from gregg's broken tags.

And yes gregg, you were confused. It is the Amish who use horse and buggies, etc.
jhamner
Going back to the originial topic...

I'm very happy that you confronted these folks. I'm sorry that they weren't open to what you were saying- but you can honestly say that THEIR BLOOD IS NOT ON YOUR HANDS.

We are taught to be bold witnesses. I can't imagine Peter or Paul allowing those poor folks to go on without saying SOMETHING.
Tzeitel
[quote]First of all, they were not pretending to be someone else, so how could they believe you?[/quote]

I dont pretend to be anything Im not.....just a grateful sinful human being who loves Jesus and thanks and praises him for loving and forgiving me.

[quote]Who wrote the biblical information that was gotten off of the
computer?[quote]

God wrote what I printed off the computer as it was the words of the bible, I think I can safely say there can be no room for error.

[quote]What is that called?  A slight form of bribery.[/quote]
[quote]Such as, if you take this I'll take that.[/quote]

I was replying to their assumption that I wouldnt take their book so I was assuring them that I would as I wouldnt assume they wouldnt take the words of God.
Hope this clears everything up for you.
NoFool
Hey, y'all...

I posted something like this before, but I think it bears repeating since we've brought up the JW's again...

Please read Revelations 1:8.
Who is the Alpha and Omega? Jehovah God.
Then read Revelations 1:17-18.
Who is the Alpha and Omaga? Jehovah God, right? Woah!
Hold on a second... Since when did Jehovah die?!

Did I mention that it says this in their OWN Bible? Seems the translators forgot something. Ahhh, the sweet smell of cognitive dissonence.

Next time a JW drops by, use this idea.
I tried to witness to a JW friend of mine using this, but unfortunately he managed to convince himself that there was no contradiction here sad.gif. He's a good buddy and all, which is what makes it so frustrating.
sojourner
Hello Tzietel.

I did the same thing you did a couple of months ago. My focus was on their take of the cross. I printed up secular articles and essays regarding the cross because I knew that they would reject the work of any other Christian faction. They accepted them. I don't know if they ever read them, but you just never know. I was wound up about it and was ready for their ideas about blood, but alas we were never able to arrange another session.

Bless you, Tzietel.

sojourner
Tzeitel
Thank you all for you support and input.

This is the tract I presented to them with all references from JW writings and of course, the Word of God:

DOCUMENTATION FROM J. W. WRITINGS

11)The Watchtower, April 1, 1972, pp.197, 200. 12)You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, 1982, p. 147. 13)Reasoning from the Scriptures, pp 70-76. 14)Holy Spirit, 1976, p. 11. 15)Ibid., Feb. 15, 1979, p. 30. 16)Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 1152; New Heavens and New Earth, p. 30. 17)You Can Live Forever...pp. 143, 144, 172. 18)Let God be True, p. 101. 19)Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. I pp. 150,152.


The Jehovah's Witnesses teach:
- Their church organization is the prophet of God.11
- Jesus returned invisibly in 1914.12
- Blood transfusions are sinful.13
- The Holy Spirit is God's impersonal active force.14
- Only their church members will be saved.15
- Jesus was an angel who became a man.16
- Jesus did not rise from the dead physically.17
- There is no Trinity.18
- Good works are necessary for the forgiveness of sins.19


DOCUMENTATION FROM THE BIBLE (GOD)

20)John 1:1,14, 8:58, 10:30; Col. 2:9. 21)Rom. 6:23;3:28;4:5. Eph. 2:8-9. 22)Gal. 3:1-2;5:1-4. 23)Isaiah 43:10; 44:6, 8. 24)John 4:24. 25)1 John 1:7,2:2. 26)John 14:6. 27)John 1:12; Rom. 10:9-10. 28)Luke 24:39; John 2:19-21. 29)Isaiah 64:6 30)2 Cor. 4:3-4. 31)Luke 6:39. 32)Rom. 3:23, 5:12. 33)Isaiah 59:2.


The Bible teaches:
there is only one God;23
God is spirit;24
Jesus' sacrifice cleanses from all sin;25
Jesus is the only way to God;26
all who receive Jesus as Savior will be saved;27
and Jesus is God in flesh 20
who rose from the dead in the same body He died in.28


They deny the true biblical doctrines of Jesus and salvation. J.W.'s teach that Jesus is an angel who became a man. They also erroneously say that in order to be saved you must cooperate with God by doing good works. The Bible says that salvation is a free gift from God.21 The Bible condemns the addition of our works to the finished sacrifice of Jesus.22 Galatians 2:21 says that if salvation comes by works ("if righteousness comes through the Law"), then Jesus died needlessly. Salvation comes by God's grace through faith alone, not by our works21 which are impure.29 Simply put, they preach a false message of salvation.

J.W.'s are good people and we love them; but, they are misled.30 They do not know that the true gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus for our sins and that we receive His forgiveness by faith alone (faith in the true Jesus). Satan has blinded them.30 Jesus said that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the pit.31


Pamela
QUOTE(Tzeitel @ May 15 2006, 11:11 AM)
Thank you all for you support and input.

This is the tract I presented to them with all references from JW writings and of course, the Word of God:

DOCUMENTATION FROM J. W. WRITINGS

11)The Watchtower, April 1, 1972, pp.197, 200. 12)You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, 1982, p. 147. 13)Reasoning from the Scriptures, pp 70-76. 14)Holy Spirit, 1976, p. 11. 15)Ibid., Feb. 15, 1979, p. 30. 16)Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 1152; New Heavens and New Earth, p. 30. 17)You Can Live Forever...pp. 143, 144, 172. 18)Let God be True, p. 101. 19)Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. I pp. 150,152.


The Jehovah's Witnesses teach:
- Their church organization is the prophet of God.11
- Jesus returned invisibly in 1914.12
- Blood transfusions are sinful.13
- The Holy Spirit is God's impersonal active force.14
- Only their church members will be saved.15
- Jesus was an angel who became a man.16
- Jesus did not rise from the dead physically.17
- There is no Trinity.18
- Good works are necessary for the forgiveness of sins.19


DOCUMENTATION FROM THE BIBLE (GOD)

20)John 1:1,14, 8:58, 10:30; Col. 2:9. 21)Rom. 6:23;3:28;4:5. Eph. 2:8-9. 22)Gal. 3:1-2;5:1-4. 23)Isaiah 43:10; 44:6, 8. 24)John 4:24. 25)1 John 1:7,2:2. 26)John 14:6. 27)John 1:12; Rom. 10:9-10. 28)Luke 24:39; John 2:19-21. 29)Isaiah 64:6 30)2 Cor. 4:3-4. 31)Luke 6:39. 32)Rom. 3:23, 5:12. 33)Isaiah 59:2.


The Bible teaches:
there is only one God;23
God is spirit;24
Jesus' sacrifice cleanses from all sin;25
Jesus is the only way to God;26
all who receive Jesus as Savior will be saved;27
and Jesus is God in flesh 20
who rose from the dead in the same body He died in.28


They deny the true biblical doctrines of Jesus and salvation.  J.W.'s teach that Jesus is an angel who became a man. They also erroneously say that in order to be saved you must cooperate with God by doing good works. The Bible says that salvation is a free gift from God.21 The Bible condemns the addition of our works to the finished sacrifice of Jesus.22 Galatians 2:21 says that if salvation comes by works ("if righteousness comes through the Law"), then Jesus died needlessly. Salvation comes by God's grace through faith alone, not by our works21 which are impure.29 Simply put, they preach a false message of salvation.

J.W.'s are good people and we love them; but, they are misled.30 They do not know that the true gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus for our sins and that we receive His forgiveness by faith alone (faith in the true Jesus). Satan has blinded them.30 Jesus said that if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the pit.31
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T I agree with you and what you offered them. I now believe that we should take the opportunity to witness back to them.
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onetiggerroo
Tzeitel, I agree with the way in which you handled this. The LORD will take the little seed you planted, and other's will be put in the path of these JW's. They don't come to my home much these days. I share the Bible, I meet them at the door with it in my hands, and I listen and then share scritures with them, until they are sick of hearing me. They ususally leave, unable to convince me of thier doctrines. A few have come to know the truth about the LORD, through presistance too! They become Born agian believer's. Many have told me that they used to believe the way I did, but thought this was wrong, and thank me for showing them the truth once again! I praise GOD for the opportunity to witness for HIM, and ususally tell the JW's that GOD has laid a WORD on my heart and I was just waiting for them, so that I could share that WORD with them! That usually scares them just a little bit too! Knowing that GOD has a WORD waiting for them...blush.gif

It is our constant reading and absorbing HIS WORD, Prayer and Praise; that we become a vessel that can serve HIM in any given situation. wub.gif rolleyes.gif
WhiteKnight
though i never heard of jevoah witness. So far no one came to my door and talking about this. If they come. I would close my ears tightly and not hear their lies.
stormdreamer
Sarah I though you tried your best, and I think you praying for them was great and reveals your love for them. I think we all must pray for those who are living in darkess and don't even realize it.

I've been approached by JW's on several occassions, one time I was at a park with a friend of mine and we were just sitting by the bay enjoying the morning when two cars full of JW's started to come up to us. I just sat on the picnic table and I had the biggest and warmest smile on my face. I was truely hoping that they would come up to me. But much to my amazement they completely avoided me, and instead headed towards my friend who was near her car. (I was sooo disappointed! smile.gif

Then there have been times when they would come to the door, they would try to fool me into thinking that they were Christians and would ask me some questions. But I'd smile and tell them that I was a born again believer, and believed in Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Then when they tried to tell me about their word, I'd just smile and say, "Jesus is Lord". I'd at times drive them crazy because I would repeat this over and over. Not once did they repeat or agree that Jesus is Lord. I had read in the bible that this is a way to test the spirits and to test those who are truely of Christ. Those who are will always say Yes, Jesus is Lord". I usually don't see those same people return after that.
After they leave I pray for their salvation too. I know God can touch any hardened heart, I know our prayers do get through some times.

Jesus is Lord!
Sandra
Tzeitel
Thank you for your kind words, Sandra, and YES YES YES JESUS IS LORD!!!! biggrin.gif wub.gif

What was so frustrating was that they kept interrupting and talking over me, wouldnt listen at all and the lady was mostly dismissive just saying, lies, lies, lies over and over again and they just began walking away so thats when I shut the door.

What did Jesus say to his disciples before sending them out to preach the Good News??

Matthew 10:14
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."
stormdreamer
QUOTE(Tzeitel @ May 16 2006, 01:36 PM)
Thank you for your kind words, Sandra, and YES YES YES JESUS IS LORD!!!! biggrin.gif  wub.gif

What was so frustrating was that they kept interrupting and talking over me, wouldnt listen at all and the lady was mostly dismissive just saying, lies, lies, lies over and over again and they just began walking away so thats when I shut the door.

What did Jesus say to his disciples before sending them out to preach the Good News??

Matthew 10:14
"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."
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Amen!

All you can do is be obedient and give the message, it's not you that they have turned away from it is the Lord. They don't realize that they are the ones that are calling God the liar.

Keeping on speaking the Word girl!
SD
RosielovesJesus
Sarah, I think you did the right thing.
I believe God gave you strength to witness to them.

You gave them our Father's words.
I truly feel God is saying well done my
faithfull servant Sarah.

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Keep on, keeping on with your faith!
You planted seeds.

love you Sarah and thanks for sharing this. It gives me
encouragement to keep on boldly witnessing.
RosielovesJesus
QUOTE(stormdreamer @ May 16 2006, 12:15 PM)
Sarah I though you tried your best, and I think you praying for them was great and reveals your love for them. I think we all must pray for those who are living in darkess and don't even realize it.

I've been approached by JW's on several occassions, one time I was at a park with a friend of mine and we were just sitting by the bay enjoying the morning when two cars full of JW's started to come up to us. I just sat on the picnic table and I had the biggest and warmest smile on my face. I was truely hoping that they would come up to me. But much to my amazement they completely avoided me, and instead headed towards my friend who was near her car. (I was sooo disappointed! smile.gif

Then there have been times when they would come to the door, they would try to fool me into thinking that they were Christians and would ask me some questions. But I'd smile and tell them that I was a born again believer, and believed in Jesus Christ as my personal savior. Then when they tried to tell me about their word, I'd just smile and say, "Jesus is Lord". I'd at times drive them crazy because I would repeat this over and over. Not once did they repeat or agree that Jesus is Lord. I had read in the bible that this is a way to test the spirits and to test those who are truely of Christ.  Those who are will always say Yes, Jesus is Lord".  I usually don't see those same people return after that.
After they leave I pray for their salvation too. I know God can touch any hardened heart, I know our prayers do get through some times.

Jesus is Lord!
Sandra
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Bless your heart Sandra. wub.gif
yes that is an awesome way to do this.
Jesus is Lord, this is what I have been
led to say many times, especially when frustration starts
to come on me. I simply say Jesus is Lord!

Tzeitel
QUOTE(RosielovesJesus @ May 16 2006, 01:50 PM)
Sarah, I think you did the right thing.
I believe God gave you strength to witness to them.

You gave them our Father's words.
I truly feel God is saying well done my
faithfull servant Sarah.

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Keep on, keeping on with your faith!
You planted seeds.

love you Sarah and thanks for sharing this. It gives me
encouragement to keep on boldly witnessing.
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Love you too Rosie Loo!! xxx biggrin.gif wub.gif
Love123
QUOTE(Tzeitel @ May 14 2006, 01:09 PM)
Well, its been an eventful Sunday today.

I could see out of my window some people knocking door to door carrying information in their hands.  I guessed it was either Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses.  Normally, I would just answer the door and say no thank you but I rushed upstairs to my computer and and printed off a Christian tract pointing out the errors of both the Mormon and JW faith and what the bible says in reply to their doctrines.

The knock came at the door and I asked the man and woman standing there where they were from, they were JW's.  I asked them to listen to me and I read to them The Truth, I was mocked and kept being interrupted (the man made a comment about me not pausing for breath!!). The woman rebuked me and said what I was saying was all lies. They wouldnt listen.  You could see they wanted to run from me but I stopped them, I said I would only take their magazine if they took the tract I was reading from but they refused and continued to argue. I shut the door.

I have been feeling sad all day about this. Not because of their reaction to me but because of their reaction to the Word.  I also felt that I could have done more but they wouldnt listen, it was like chipping away at a heart of stone using a toothpick. But what I realised is that not my words but only The Word can break hearts of stone and make the scales from eyes of the decieved fall away.

If any of you feel compelled, could you please pray for them with me?

Heavenly Father,
I bring before your throne of grace the two Jehovahs Witnesses that came to visit today. I forgive them Lord and ask if you would speak to their hearts and show them the truth.
You are the one true God, the king of the universe, the alpha and omega and ask for your mercy for the lost and deceived. I ask of these things through your Son, Jesus Christ, the light of the world, Amen.

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I agree with you in prayer.............. Praise Jesus you planted a seed for Him.


I had a personal experience years ago.............It seemed this was the street of choice...........or road if you will.........
Groups of J.W. were afoot.......... I let the same female in here several different times.
We went back and forth.........as you did.........She never sat.....
She always stood near the door............
So I stood near her................the next to the last time she was here.
She told me............ she has no cross.
She said would you wear a gun around your neck as a symbol of what shot your loved one.
Well............. I was weary of her ................
She came to the door one more time.............. Just waiting for me to diswelcome her................. They get points in Heaven if you send them away.......

I decided today you can get them.................
As she knocked on the door........... I took a large wooden cross from the wall and held it up to her................ I never spoke.............. She never spoke.
I never saw her again...........

We all have a point of no return..............that was mine..........
I did all could...............
I pray for her and so many like her that are lost in that J.W. religion.
They are stubborn................set in it........like concrete.
We all know some good people..................
And they belong to the J.W..........

Another thing about the J.W. door knocks...........They often come when you are not prepared.... (As will Jesus)....
...... You may be going through Lord knows what........
You must immediately click into gear and be ready to match them.
In the meantime the air conditioner stopped working yesterday and its 101 degrees- today, that’s just inside the house...the washer is off balance the baby is crying and some smoke is clouding up from the stove, the phone begins to ring off the hook, little Tommy is tugging at your blouse to say he’s has to go-0-O.... doing the potty dance, and tiny Terry wants her lunch now, the dog is barking repeatedly with excitement Company! Company! Company! The moment can seem like; nails scratching a chalkboard.......now you know you could say something to this person in behalf of the Lord, its time!
* Truly... this is a difficult circumstance for me to be all I can be.... Jesus died to save the world......
.... If we can only say four words on His behalf...and behalf of that soul.... we did something........

4)....Jesus died for you....
and maybe one some rare occasion, all you need, IS a CROSS.


One day at a time... God help us to be more for ...Him... Amen
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BernieEOD
The last time JW's came to our door, it could not have been at a worse time for them. We had just came back from the range and I had all of the firearms out on the table cleaning them. Things became interesting from there.
wernotalone
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Jeremiah 16:

16: Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.

17. For mine eyes are upon all their ways; they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes.

18. And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their destestable and abominable things.

19. O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of afflcition, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inheritied lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

20. Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods?

21. Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might: and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

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leia
Funny this one should come up again...I was just thinking of it and wanting to put something down.

My kitchen cabinets are being made and the one I chose was a JW. I knew it the first time he came to look at the site and take measurements for an estimate. I have been teaching the 1st and 2nd grade in Vacation Bible School (great week and one girl, the grand-daughter of a heathen who works for me) was saved and is being babtised!!!!!!!!! Praise God and all honor to Him. The discussion of VBS came up and he asked what denomination I was and said that he was JW. The young man with him...his assistant....had tatoos all over him, but there was something gentle about him, like he had come to grips with himself and the everlasting at last....come to find out that he had just been baptised into the JW faith.

Anyway, we talked and it got into a heated debate until I stopped and asked, "Is this going to affect my estimate?" We laughed and I tried to go on to the house building....but he saw a soul and asked about a few more things...I mean he was going to go from Genesis forward, and I stopped each one in turn until he said the one thing I really had to finished the conversation on.

We got to mentioning God speaking to us and he told me that God speaks to us through scripture. I agreed and said wasn't it wonderful to have the Word and be able to talk to Him about it as well...or something like that.

Do you know he told me that God doesn't talk to his people anymore except through the scriptures?

Somebody put me in the place then, because I have been talking to myself and answering myself for some time now! How very sad for them. But at that I actually put my hand out to stop him from talking and said, "We are finished."

He did come in with the best estimate, though, and his work is artisan so he got the job....but WOW! Can you IMAGINE not talking to the Father whenever you wanted? My life would be meaningless.

leia
senteami3
Someone once said that Jehovah's witnesses and other Mormons CAN'T REPRODUCE (like us spiritually through the "born again experience" and therefore the only way they can ADD to their ranks is to push their beliefs through you.

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jhamner
I went to the beach on a vacation a few weeks ago and a woman noticed that I was reading my bible. She asked me a few questions and said that she taught bible study for twnety plus years.

As I sat back and listened, however, the Holy Spirit was telling me to keep my guard up.

After awhile she started saying that the right and official name of the Lord was Jahova and I saw a copy of "The Watchtower" magazine. She finally came out and said she was a JW. I was intimidated because I know that the cult religions really prepare those who are deceived by them to answer the tough questions posed by Christians. I took a walk- but the Lord wanted me to talk with her further. I didn't listen.

A few days ago while walking across campus, two Mormans came up to me. I said a quick silent prayer and began speaking with them. What's funny is I really think that I might have said something to them that got them to take a look at the bible (instead of the Book of the Morman). One of the boys said, "I've never heard anyone else talk about "that" before... tell me what you mean." They tried to get me to take a book (I almost did for my brother who does a lot of research on false religions) but didn't because I didn't want to give them the wrong idea.

What is REALLY sad is that these two religions (which is exactly what they are) are pumping out witnesses. Where is this from Christians??? I really think God is letting me see just how badly He wants us to get out there and tell people about Him!!!

I was grieved by both encounters- that people could think they were in the light but be in such outer darkness. sad.gif
NoFool
QUOTE(senteami3 @ Jul 5 2006, 05:40 PM)
Someone once said that Jehovah's witnesses and other Mormons CAN'T REPRODUCE (like us spiritually through the "born again experience" and therefore the only way they can ADD to their ranks is to push their beliefs through you.

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That might explain the reason I felt like I had just been molested sexually after having visited a JW Kingdom Hall. A friend of mine had a buddy named Gary that was a JW and invited us to come visit and sit in on one of their services. We took him up on the offer, but little did we know what was in store for us. They wasted no time. Right in the MIDDLE of the service, Gary and another JW missionary motioned us to come out back and led us to what could only be described as like an interrogation room, we "heathens" being the criminals and the JW guys being the cops. I knew by the way they were systematicly asking us about our faith and presenting pre-made materials attempting to discredit our beliefs that they were following a script-- apparently every new convert goes through this. One word-- P-U-S-H-Y! I felt no real love-- just business. In order to get it all over with as soon as possible (their approach made me uncomfortable), I did not argue with them, but gladly took all the material of theirs they would give me so I could learn more about the faith and use it to my advantage in inter-faith witnessing. Of course I did not verbally tell them so lol.
Love123
I enjoyed all of your experiences............. we are human............lol....and living this life’s gift the best we can..........

Yet it is sad.....for the thoughts of the J.W.........the loss of family............and celebrations we are accustomed to..........
They can no longer be a part of...

It doesn’t sound like love to me to only be able to speak to your people through scripture.
Yik.........

Prayer is what we have.......
........and an opportunity to put out a word or two.......

Know we did..what we could... when we could....................and move on.
Jesus came to save the world............we can speak..... usually reaching one person at a time.
And make a difference............ We are living proof of that.............How did we come to be? I personally trickled through a lot of people.................... to reach the point of Salvation............

No one person can take the credit .................it was many...................
and I arrived..........Praise Jesus........... It’s good for us to remember..........
When we speak ...............we do something............... some little thing......
That could be the last thing................ one needs to hear....
......to go to the edge of eternity .............proclaiming Jesus is Lord.

On that note........brothers and sisters..........I would like to lead us in prayer again.

Father In Jesus name........... Lord forgive us of our sins and transgressions against others.
As we gather together in your name.................. Help us to be so much more of you....and so much less of us............... we ask a special touch from you upon the numerous numbers of J.W. .... that more will fall away from what they have learned......and believe in the Word.
Finding you Jesus..........Lord help the blind to see and the deaf to hear..........We ask these things in thy Holy Precious Name ...............Amen.........

God Bless You All..................... I just love the unity of Gods People ..........it is so good. wub.gif

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