So, the stage is being set, and the US can consider itself as being warned!?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=50146
Iran letter precursor to war?
Analysts say it follows Muhammad's instructions for jihad
Some Middle East observers believe Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush could be a precursor to war, based on a traditional Muslim pattern of offering acceptance of Islam before establishing it by force.
Robert Spencer, editor of Jihad Watch, says Ahmadinejad appears to be following the teachings of Muhammad, who gave specific instructions to followers as they engage in "holy war" against "those who disbelieve in Allah."
In a Hadith, regarded by Muslims as sacred writings about Muhammad, the Islamic prophet says a series of offers should be made to "enemies" to embrace Islam, or at least accept Islamic rule, and if they are rejected, "seek Allah's help and fight them."
In his letter, Ahmadinejad argues only Islam can "overcome the present problems of the world" and asks Bush, "Will you not accept this invitation? That is, a genuine return to the teachings of prophets, to monotheism and justice, to preserve human dignity and obedience to the Almighty and His prophets? Mr President, History tells us that repressive and cruel governments do not survive."
Another observer of Islam, journalist Stephen Adams, said the letter seems to parallel a missive from al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden to Americans prior to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Interviewed on the Michael Medved radio show yesterday, Adams noted bin Laden stated his grievances against the United States and gave Americans the opportunity to "repent."
Based on precedent, Adams continued, he expects the next step will be for Iran to make the invitation public. Then the "crimes" of the U.S. will be published and the grievances will be cited at Friday prayers in mosques. Finally, comes a fatwa, amounting to a declaration of war.
Adams, associate editor of Citizen magazine, said it's possible this scenario could unfold in a matter of weeks.
In a column for WorldNetDaily, Middle East analyst Laura Mansfield said she believes the letter could be a "last warning."
Mansfield says the question must be asked: "Why deliver such a letter when there is little chance it will result in policy changes for either country?"
Like Spencer and Adams, she points out: "Islamic theology documents that no attack can be carried out in jihad without first offering the 'unbelievers' the opportunity to 'repent' and accept Islam. Only when that overture is rejected can an attack occur."
The Iranian president has made clear, at least to audiences at home, Tehran's ultimate intentions.
As WorldNetDaily reported in January, Ahmadinejad told a crowd of theological students in Iran's holy city of Qom that Islam must prepare to rule the world.
"We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It's a universal ideology that leads the world to justice," Ahmadinejad said Jan. 5, according to Mehran Riazaty, a former Iran analyst for the Central Command of the Coalition Forces in Baghdad.
Ahmadinejad, who drew global attention for his contention the Holocaust was a "myth," said: "We don't shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world." Two months earlier, he threatened to "wipe Israel off the map"
Riazaty, in a post on the website Regime Change Iran, said the Iranian president emphasized his current theme that the return of the Shiite messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away, and Muslims must prepare for it.
According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.
Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.
"We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return," Ahmadinejad said. "If we work on the basis of the Expectation of the Return [of the Mahdi], all the affairs of our nation will be streamlined and the administration of the country will become easier."
Full Version: Ahmadinejad's Letter...
Thanks for posting this Dani, it really does seem as though a major attack on the western world is imminent. 
This was my first impression of the letter though I didn't know exactly what it said...now it is pretty much confirmed.
Keeping this in mind...
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Based on precedent, Adams continued, he expects the next step will be for Iran to make the invitation public. Then the "crimes" of the U.S. will be published and the grievances will be cited at Friday prayers in mosques. Finally, comes a fatwa, amounting to a declaration of war.
Keeping this in mind...
I have been watching the news on Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for some time now. This man is delusional, to put it mildly. He wants to blow Israel off the map, and is looking for the 12th Imam (Muslim Messiah). Now he is wanting the United States to accept Islam as a National Religion or cause war. The time to pray for our safety is upon us. I ask that you all take a moment and pray for Israel and all nations fighting war, but especially for this man to know the LORD, and accept JESUS as HIS Savior.
The Bible says this in Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
The Bible says this in Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
under the old covenant, Israel was betrothed to God.
a covenant...a contract.
but Jesus instituted a NEW covenant.
the old being done away with, because the new makes the old, obsolete.
the new covenant was instituted by his death, for no covenant is in force while the covenanter is living.
his blood was poured out. his body offered up.
this was symbolized by the bread, and the wine.
the new covenant.
please tell me. is the old covenant still in place?
if so, then the new has not arrived.
and if we say that the new has not arrived,
then we discredit what Jesus did, and said.
the ISRAEL OF GOD is made up of people from every nation of men.
and does not depend upon national boundaries, nor upon claim to genealogies or heritage.
SPIRITUAL ISRAEL....is made up of those in the NEW COVENANT.
the old has passed away.
-bz
a covenant...a contract.
but Jesus instituted a NEW covenant.
the old being done away with, because the new makes the old, obsolete.
the new covenant was instituted by his death, for no covenant is in force while the covenanter is living.
his blood was poured out. his body offered up.
this was symbolized by the bread, and the wine.
the new covenant.
please tell me. is the old covenant still in place?
if so, then the new has not arrived.
and if we say that the new has not arrived,
then we discredit what Jesus did, and said.
the ISRAEL OF GOD is made up of people from every nation of men.
and does not depend upon national boundaries, nor upon claim to genealogies or heritage.
SPIRITUAL ISRAEL....is made up of those in the NEW COVENANT.
the old has passed away.
-bz
QUOTE(blindzebra @ May 11 2006, 07:29 PM)
under the old covenant, Israel was betrothed to God.
a covenant...a contract.
but Jesus instituted a NEW covenant.
the old being done away with, because the new makes the old, obsolete.
the new covenant was instituted by his death, for no covenant is in force while the covenanter is living.
his blood was poured out. his body offered up.
this was symbolized by the bread, and the wine.
the new covenant.
please tell me. is the old covenant still in place?
if so, then the new has not arrived.
and if we say that the new has not arrived,
then we discredit what Jesus did, and said.
the ISRAEL OF GOD is made up of people from every nation of men.
and does not depend upon national boundaries, nor upon claim to genealogies or heritage.
SPIRITUAL ISRAEL....is made up of those in the NEW COVENANT.
the old has passed away.
-bz
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a covenant...a contract.
but Jesus instituted a NEW covenant.
the old being done away with, because the new makes the old, obsolete.
the new covenant was instituted by his death, for no covenant is in force while the covenanter is living.
his blood was poured out. his body offered up.
this was symbolized by the bread, and the wine.
the new covenant.
please tell me. is the old covenant still in place?
if so, then the new has not arrived.
and if we say that the new has not arrived,
then we discredit what Jesus did, and said.
the ISRAEL OF GOD is made up of people from every nation of men.
and does not depend upon national boundaries, nor upon claim to genealogies or heritage.
SPIRITUAL ISRAEL....is made up of those in the NEW COVENANT.
the old has passed away.
-bz
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It takes a lady with GREAT faith to think that the president of Iran can be won over for Jesus.
QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ May 11 2006, 06:21 PM)
I ask that you all take a moment and pray for Israel and all nations fighting war, but especially for this man to know the LORD, and accept JESUS as HIS Savior.
The Bible says this in Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
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The Bible says this in Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
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Susan has great faith!!!!!
We really need to pray for this. And we need to pray for our own nations, wherever we live.
QUOTE(shy1 @ May 11 2006, 11:36 PM)
QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ May 11 2006, 06:21 PM)
I ask that you all take a moment and pray for Israel and all nations fighting war, but especially for this man to know the LORD, and accept JESUS as HIS Savior.
The Bible says this in Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
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The Bible says this in Psalms 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
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Susan has great faith!!!!!
We really need to pray for this. And we need to pray for our own nations, wherever we live.
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Amen on all accounts!
QUOTE(Dani @ May 11 2006, 10:17 AM)
So, the stage is being set, and the US can consider itself as being warned!?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=50146
Iran letter precursor to war?
Analysts say it follows Muhammad's instructions for jihad
Some Middle East observers believe Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush could be a precursor to war, based on a traditional Muslim pattern of offering acceptance of Islam before establishing it by force.
Robert Spencer, editor of Jihad Watch, says Ahmadinejad appears to be following the teachings of Muhammad, who gave specific instructions to followers as they engage in "holy war" against "those who disbelieve in Allah."
In a Hadith, regarded by Muslims as sacred writings about Muhammad, the Islamic prophet says a series of offers should be made to "enemies" to embrace Islam, or at least accept Islamic rule, and if they are rejected, "seek Allah's help and fight them."
In his letter, Ahmadinejad argues only Islam can "overcome the present problems of the world" and asks Bush, "Will you not accept this invitation? That is, a genuine return to the teachings of prophets, to monotheism and justice, to preserve human dignity and obedience to the Almighty and His prophets? Mr President, History tells us that repressive and cruel governments do not survive."
Another observer of Islam, journalist Stephen Adams, said the letter seems to parallel a missive from al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden to Americans prior to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Interviewed on the Michael Medved radio show yesterday, Adams noted bin Laden stated his grievances against the United States and gave Americans the opportunity to "repent."
Based on precedent, Adams continued, he expects the next step will be for Iran to make the invitation public. Then the "crimes" of the U.S. will be published and the grievances will be cited at Friday prayers in mosques. Finally, comes a fatwa, amounting to a declaration of war.
Adams, associate editor of Citizen magazine, said it's possible this scenario could unfold in a matter of weeks.
In a column for WorldNetDaily, Middle East analyst Laura Mansfield said she believes the letter could be a "last warning."
Mansfield says the question must be asked: "Why deliver such a letter when there is little chance it will result in policy changes for either country?"
Like Spencer and Adams, she points out: "Islamic theology documents that no attack can be carried out in jihad without first offering the 'unbelievers' the opportunity to 'repent' and accept Islam. Only when that overture is rejected can an attack occur."
The Iranian president has made clear, at least to audiences at home, Tehran's ultimate intentions.
As WorldNetDaily reported in January, Ahmadinejad told a crowd of theological students in Iran's holy city of Qom that Islam must prepare to rule the world.
"We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It's a universal ideology that leads the world to justice," Ahmadinejad said Jan. 5, according to Mehran Riazaty, a former Iran analyst for the Central Command of the Coalition Forces in Baghdad.
Ahmadinejad, who drew global attention for his contention the Holocaust was a "myth," said: "We don't shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world." Two months earlier, he threatened to "wipe Israel off the map"
Riazaty, in a post on the website Regime Change Iran, said the Iranian president emphasized his current theme that the return of the Shiite messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away, and Muslims must prepare for it.
According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.
Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.
"We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return," Ahmadinejad said. "If we work on the basis of the Expectation of the Return [of the Mahdi], all the affairs of our nation will be streamlined and the administration of the country will become easier."
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=50146
Iran letter precursor to war?
Analysts say it follows Muhammad's instructions for jihad
Some Middle East observers believe Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush could be a precursor to war, based on a traditional Muslim pattern of offering acceptance of Islam before establishing it by force.
Robert Spencer, editor of Jihad Watch, says Ahmadinejad appears to be following the teachings of Muhammad, who gave specific instructions to followers as they engage in "holy war" against "those who disbelieve in Allah."
In a Hadith, regarded by Muslims as sacred writings about Muhammad, the Islamic prophet says a series of offers should be made to "enemies" to embrace Islam, or at least accept Islamic rule, and if they are rejected, "seek Allah's help and fight them."
In his letter, Ahmadinejad argues only Islam can "overcome the present problems of the world" and asks Bush, "Will you not accept this invitation? That is, a genuine return to the teachings of prophets, to monotheism and justice, to preserve human dignity and obedience to the Almighty and His prophets? Mr President, History tells us that repressive and cruel governments do not survive."
Another observer of Islam, journalist Stephen Adams, said the letter seems to parallel a missive from al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden to Americans prior to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Interviewed on the Michael Medved radio show yesterday, Adams noted bin Laden stated his grievances against the United States and gave Americans the opportunity to "repent."
Based on precedent, Adams continued, he expects the next step will be for Iran to make the invitation public. Then the "crimes" of the U.S. will be published and the grievances will be cited at Friday prayers in mosques. Finally, comes a fatwa, amounting to a declaration of war.
Adams, associate editor of Citizen magazine, said it's possible this scenario could unfold in a matter of weeks.
In a column for WorldNetDaily, Middle East analyst Laura Mansfield said she believes the letter could be a "last warning."
Mansfield says the question must be asked: "Why deliver such a letter when there is little chance it will result in policy changes for either country?"
Like Spencer and Adams, she points out: "Islamic theology documents that no attack can be carried out in jihad without first offering the 'unbelievers' the opportunity to 'repent' and accept Islam. Only when that overture is rejected can an attack occur."
The Iranian president has made clear, at least to audiences at home, Tehran's ultimate intentions.
As WorldNetDaily reported in January, Ahmadinejad told a crowd of theological students in Iran's holy city of Qom that Islam must prepare to rule the world.
"We must believe in the fact that Islam is not confined to geographical borders, ethnic groups and nations. It's a universal ideology that leads the world to justice," Ahmadinejad said Jan. 5, according to Mehran Riazaty, a former Iran analyst for the Central Command of the Coalition Forces in Baghdad.
Ahmadinejad, who drew global attention for his contention the Holocaust was a "myth," said: "We don't shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world." Two months earlier, he threatened to "wipe Israel off the map"
Riazaty, in a post on the website Regime Change Iran, said the Iranian president emphasized his current theme that the return of the Shiite messiah, the Mahdi, is not far away, and Muslims must prepare for it.
According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.
Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.
"We must prepare ourselves to rule the world and the only way to do that is to put forth views on the basis of the Expectation of the Return," Ahmadinejad said. "If we work on the basis of the Expectation of the Return [of the Mahdi], all the affairs of our nation will be streamlined and the administration of the country will become easier."
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DANI,,,,,,,
Do you know if Iran has publicly given this same "chance" of repentence to ISRAEL, to date???
Just curious, because it seems, (just seems) as though Iran leans toward wanting to attack them more than us. But I do realize we probably need to be out of the loop or out of the way prior to anyone going after Israel. (just my thoughts)
Douglas J. Martin (12 May 2006)
"Marie Komar (11 May 2006) "History is repeating itself...""
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As I was reading Marie's post, this part stood out to me..... I have to wonder if this was a coincidence or a hidden message in there.... here is why: 9 references to Jesus, and 11 references to Christ..mmmm 9-11.... that date sounds familiar...
In his letter, Ahmadinejad made nine references to Jesus and eleven references to Christ. He suggested that George Bush 'return to Christian teachings' which the AP interpreted as an "insight into a man seeking to build on a shared faith in God."
In Jesus's name....
from: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2006/douglasm512.htm
"Marie Komar (11 May 2006) "History is repeating itself...""
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As I was reading Marie's post, this part stood out to me..... I have to wonder if this was a coincidence or a hidden message in there.... here is why: 9 references to Jesus, and 11 references to Christ..mmmm 9-11.... that date sounds familiar...
In his letter, Ahmadinejad made nine references to Jesus and eleven references to Christ. He suggested that George Bush 'return to Christian teachings' which the AP interpreted as an "insight into a man seeking to build on a shared faith in God."
In Jesus's name....
from: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2006/douglasm512.htm
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 12 2006, 01:08 AM)
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DANI,,,,,,,
Do you know if Iran has publicly given this same "chance" of repentence to ISRAEL, to date???
Just curious, because it seems, (just seems) as though Iran leans toward wanting to attack them more than us. But I do realize we probably need to be out of the loop or out of the way prior to anyone going after Israel. (just my thoughts)
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DANI,,,,,,,
Do you know if Iran has publicly given this same "chance" of repentence to ISRAEL, to date???
Just curious, because it seems, (just seems) as though Iran leans toward wanting to attack them more than us. But I do realize we probably need to be out of the loop or out of the way prior to anyone going after Israel. (just my thoughts)
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I don't know of Iran giving Israel any such chance.
I sometimes think that "they" think Israel is the 51st state of the US.
No, I was merely pointing out that "analysts" are saying in this article that Ahmadinejad's letter parallels what Usama Bin Laden said to the western world before he started attacking us... Repent and submit to terroism...
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