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~veronique~
Valerie (messiahiscoming) and I have been studying the prophecies in the psalms. We all know that the Tsunami of 2004 hit 12/25--12/26 depending on what part of the world you live in.

At first when Tsunami hit, I paid little attention, but the days following and the death toll was at about 73,000 when I was beginning to feel something, pity, mercy for the people.

I heard what I thought was the "STILL SMALL VOICE OF GOD", say "What do you think it would look like when the Abyss is opened?" (I immediately realized that if satan and a third of God's former angels were RELEASED from the bottomless pit, that it may appear like THIS TSUNAMI.

I picked up my bible, turned to Psalm 104 (ie possibly 2004)

Verse 25 (12/25) says
THER IS THE SEA VAST AND SPACIOUS TEEMING WITH CRETURES BEYOND NUMBER LIVING THINGS BOTH LARGE AND SMALL>

Verse 26 (12/26) There the ships go to and fro and THE LEVIATHAN, which you formed to frolic there.

Verse 30 When you send your Spirit they are created and you RENEW the FACE of the EARTH (the earth tilted on its axis that day from the massive earthquake)

Verse 32 he who looks at the earth and it TREMBLES who touches the mountains and they smoke...(shortly after the Tsunami volcanoes in various places began to smoke and erupt)

LEVIATHAN I believe is only mentioned in the bible 4 times...

I RESEARCHED the Tsunami, a month after it occured and all Tsunami's recorded before this one. I can't remember the site but I can look for it Probably through a National Weather Service LINK.

BUt what I found was ASTRONOMICAL...........in the past minor Tsunami's caused waves to rise in nearby and at opposite places .......... these waves (non threatening in the non Tsunami locations are MEASURED)

FOR EXAMPLE,,,,,,Say if a MINOR Tsunami, one with only a few blocks or miles of damage hit INDIA, then the measurements at AUSTRALIA measured a few percent HIGHER than a NORMAL day, when no TSUNAMI was occuring.

NOW, on the 12-25th and 12-26th..........WOW.....EVERY SINGLE CONTINENT ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH HAD WAVE MEASUREMENTS ABOVE NORMAL.......IT EVEN SHOWED THE TIMES OF THESE "WAVES".......i'LL TRY TO FIND THAT SITE

I believe that the day the earthquake that caused the Tsunami, OPENED up something........the effects were just too WORLDWIDE....and millions don't even know that.

VAL,,,,,,,,LET ME KNOW IF I'VE LEFT SOMETHING OUT?
Tzeitel
Wow blink.gif That is something isnt it? Well done to you and Val 1dsz5h3.gif , keep on posting!!! 1dsz5e4.gif
gregg
The Creator God whom was later to reveal himself to Moses as Jehovah, created the lights in the firmament of heaven for signs and seasons, and for days and years. There is an argument that Jesus was not born in the year 0, but in the year -4 or 4 b.c.e. That would make 2004 a period of 2000 years since the birth. The whole world with all of its invented devices are helping mankind to realize that Jehovah is real. They say Jesus was born on 12/25. The time for His resurrection is now. If you are led to believe that the bible describes what happened with that tsunami in Psalm 104 verse 25 starting with the sea, as your faith is so be it. But, we must assist the people in their escape from the grasp of the terror that has invaded. We cannot do this after the fact. What people really need is more interest in the building up of the defenses of the planet which would include their own bodies, since they are made from the dust of the earth. The food of the deceiver is the dust of the earth. A warning after the fact is no good to those who are taken, but to those who are left, it is a sign. That is why the bible has been edited so much to fit the signs of the times. Psalm 104 describes what happens at this time. This is the time of the existence of seas. Let's find out what is meant by 'Leviathan.' A huge fish, a water animal, a whale, a shark, a crocodile. Before that tsunami in 2004, all of the animals on land around the tsunami zone ran for higher ground. Before this last earthquake near Tonga, there was a scene of beached whales.....
Let not your heart be troubled but belive that God is in control.
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~veronique~
I'm not really understanding GREGG.

This is really NOT after the fact.........if we are still in the middle of birth pains....only God knows.

I just don't think it coincidence that the largest natural disaster landed on the same day/year as lined up in the word.

I know what Leviathan means, it can also mean dragon, beast.

For all I know the BEAST OUT OF THE SEA.....came 12/25 2004.

But I am not really understanding your post.
Messiahiscoming
I was thinking the very same thing. Gregg I am very confused by your post.
Would you please clarify what you were saying. I got the idea that you thought looking back on something was useless. I will say no more until you respond. I do not want respond to you if I am unclear as to what your post was about.

I agree Roni,

I think it was no coincidence that The Tsunami happened lining right up with Psalms 104. You know that we have certainly looked at the possiblity of the Leviathon referenced in Psalms 104 being related to the Beast rising from the Sea, in Rev. 13th. If this is the case I would consider this a WARNING to those who are left!

Your Friend in Christ,
Valerie

Messiahiscoming
gregg
Look in Isa. 27:1 'In that day the Lord with his sore (severe) and great and strong sword (sickle) will punish (draw up troops for marching) leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan, that crooked serpent and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.'
Psalm 104:26 says the Lord formed the Leviathan to frolic there. In Isaiah, He is going to mass them together and destroy the dragon (Heb. tanniyn, Gr. ketos) {whale}.
Really, what is coming to my mind is that somebody caused this last earthquake to cover what they did to 'mass the whales' and beach them.
Human beings being as light-headed as they are would likely do something like use a herd of whales to clear the waters of any threat using their Einstein-like minds. But then, they may be following the will of Jehovah.
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If you take the sea as meaning the 'sea' of people and the dragon to mean the satan, then that goes right along with the book of Job.
~veronique~
QUOTE(gregg @ May 5 2006, 03:15 PM)
Look in Isa. 27:1  'In that day the Lord  with his sore (severe) and great and strong sword (sickle) will punish (draw up troops for marching) leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan, that crooked serpent and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.'
Psalm 104:26 says the Lord formed the Leviathan to frolic there.  In Isaiah, He is going to mass them together and destroy the dragon (Heb. tanniyn, Gr. ketos) {whale}.
Really, what is coming to my mind is that somebody caused this last earthquake to cover what they did to 'mass the whales' and beach them. 
Human beings being as light-headed as they are would likely do something like use a herd of whales to clear the waters of any threat using their Einstein-like minds.  But then, they may be following the will of Jehovah.
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If you take the sea as meaning the 'sea' of people and the dragon to mean the satan, then that goes right along with the book of Job.
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Really, what is coming to my mind is that somebody caused this last earthquake to cover what they did to 'mass the whales' and beach them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Somebody? Thank you for your input, but can you clarify who somebody is that can cause an earthquake and why would they cover what they did to mass the whales..........TY
~veronique~
In Job 41 the Lord asks several questions v1-8 the answer is NO...and WHY is it NO? verses 12-21 makes this Leviathan sound like a DRAGON vs 18 His Snotring throws out flashes of light 19 Firebrands stream from his mouth sparks of fire shoot out v20 Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds....v21 flames dart from his mouth.....later v29 this entity LAUGHS

finally v34 He is king over all that are proud......
gregg
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 5 2006, 03:08 PM)
In Job 41 the Lord asks several questions v1-8  the answer is NO...and WHY is it NO? verses 12-21 makes this Leviathan sound like a DRAGON vs 18 His Snotring throws out flashes of light  19 Firebrands stream from his mouth sparks of fire shoot out v20 Smoke pours from his nostrils as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds....v21 flames dart from his mouth.....later v29 this entity LAUGHS

finally v34 He is king over all that are proud......
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So Job 41:1 tells you that the leviathan is not a fish, he is not God so he cannot make a covenant with you, he is not a bird, you can't eat him, you can't divide him up, he has no skin, and in verse 8 you are to put him under your feet and do battle with him no more. Yes, this leviathan is the king of pride.
gregg
And the somebody is maybe the son of perdition that is yet to be revealed. . . probably
Laughter would be a sign of pride. The Lord says, 'Be afflicted and mourn.'
~veronique~
i see your pts in Job 41...

Please show me scripture that son of perdition can cause an earthquake?
gregg
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 5 2006, 04:33 PM)
i see your pts in Job 41...

Please show me scripture that son of perdition can cause an earthquake?
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Very interesting!
I shall search.
But, the first thought that comes to mind is the earthquake after the crucifixion when all the graves were opened. In 1 Kings 19:11, we are told that the Lord is not in the earthquake. Next thing that comes to mind is , I remember coming across something written about somebody creating a machine that would would bring about an earthquake; I don't know how true that was. But, you read Matthew 24:7 and there are earthquakes in divers places. Certainly, there are now, but is that caused by an entity that could be called the son of perdition? Speaking of that, when the 'earth did quake' in Mat. 27:51, 'the graves were opened and many bodies of the saints that slept arose.' Why don't we see the same thing after the earthquakes today? Is it just an echo of the past to get people scared enough to open the bibles and plea for help? We know about the ring of fire and all of the eartquakes around there and the plate shift and all of that. But you would have to really think deep and think of what is below the surface, what the earth core is, and what it is made of. Is not the core molten lava? Molten elements; all of the things that the surface has minus the growth of trees, grass, lichen, moss, etc. What is your definition of perdition? The New Testament definition is 'the state after death wherein exclusion from salvation is a realized fact, wherein man, instead of becoming what he might have been, is lost and ruined.' The son of perdition, to me would mean a generation, as in expelling, that causes all to be lost or ruined. When you think about the island of Krakatoa where that volcano just swallowed all of it with lava, and your mind pictures the mummified people; the only thing found is the mummified bodies and the pottery and stuff. Stuff that was pretty well ruined; generations of men lost forever.
Thanks for the incentive.
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I have to search some more.
4him
Hey isn't psalms the 19th book in the bible?

Psalms 48 will be - 19 book in bible 48 chapter = 1948 ph34r.gif

Psalm 104 = 2004
~veronique~
QUOTE(4him @ May 6 2006, 08:32 PM)
Hey isn't psalms the 19th book in the bible?

Psalms 48 will be - 19 book in bible 48 chapter = 1948  ph34r.gif

Psalm 104 = 2004
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YES.......check out the verses of this chapter 48:4 When the kings joined forces, when they advanced together they saw her and were astounded, they FLED in TERROR v 6Trmbling seized them there pain like that of a WOMAN in LABOR..........

the kings......UNITED NATIONS............they made the decision to allow Israel's sovereignty right? in 1948 wonder what month and day THIS MEETING WAS TAKING PLACE??
Dani
There is something that bothers me... it's this website -

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/

specifically...

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recent...s/10/295_20.php

I have been watching it for months and I'm astounded that Puerto Rico is always having little earthquakes around it.

I have begun to think that the quakes that are happening in the sea (around PR) are being caused by the Navy and depth charges and/or testing of explosives.

Just a thought about the cause of earthquakes ... around Perto Rico

Dani
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(4him @ May 6 2006, 07:32 PM)
Hey isn't psalms the 19th book in the bible?

Psalms 48 will be - 19 book in bible 48 chapter = 1948  ph34r.gif

Psalm 104 = 2004
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Yes you need to read a book by J.R. Church called hidden prophecies in the
Psalms. This speaks of exactly what you are speaking about. It takes the 1900's and the 2000's and shows how each Psalms realate.


Here is a quote from one of my earlier post concerning this:

"I am glad that you are familiar with JR Church's the Psalms are being fulfilled in the 1900's and years of 2000. With this in mind I cannot help but make the connection with the Oppression from the enemy Psalms 42 (1942 Holecause)
Psalms 106:42 (2006?) Revelation 11:1-2 (leave out the outer court given to the Gentiles they shall tread 42 months!

I have just really been overwhelmed by all of this. Another thing that kept coming to me was what I think you were elabrating on 4and 2. I kept pondering last night 4+2=6 which would fit the scenerio of Psalms 106, being 2006.

I hope I have made myself clear. Its odd that you brought up your "personal shorthand number with the Lord is 18" Mine is 11 I have been thinking about that as well. This is were the Lord lead me last night was Rev. 11.

You should continue to read Psalms 107-112, It sure seems like it is a prophecy of the end, the Tribulation. Psalms 109:6 speaks of the Anti-Christ.

Read Psalms 112:10 Speaks of the Wicked being grieved he shall gnash his teeth, and melt away; the desire of the wicked shall perish.

At Lastly Psalms 113 Speaks of Praising the Lord from this Time forth and forevermore.

v7 says He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifted the needy out of the dunghill 8. That he may set him princess."



Another Post from same thread:

I also started thinking if The Psalms thing is playing out prophetically think about this scenerio.

Israel became a nation in 1948. I think the more significant date is 1967 when they regained Jerusalem. Did you get a chance to read Psalms 109 ( I think this is a reference to the Anti-Christ) So if this generation will not pass
1967+40=2007 (Psalms 107) + 2= 2009 (Psalms 109 Anti-Christ) The concealing and revealing could be the A/C. 1967+42= 2009.

Please understand I am not attempting to be a date setter as to when the Lord will return. (No man knows the day or hour) But concerning the A/C the scripture is not so clear.

I also wanted to clarify that the NUN 14th letter of Hebrew alphabet normally refers to "downfall" But in cas of the Backward Nun, it very well seems to suggest that the these represent the day of God's wrath when He will turn His back in Judgement. When I have some more time I will try and explain the Nuns and the scripture they are attached to. And by the way they are only visible in the Hebrew text! Its one of those things similiar to the VAV and the broken VAV in scripture represents Christ.

Anyway off to Work.

Lord let us hear what you have to say to the Churches!

This is just a few of the things that I have seen concerning the prophecies in the Psalms. They are very interesting to say the least. Certainly worth taking a look at. They seem to paralell what is going on. I have been looking at them for several years. At the conclusion of every year I look back and I am amazed at how things unfolded.

Anyway thought I would pass on that information

Your Friend in Christ,
Val

Messiahiscoming


~veronique~
Slightly interesting,,,,,,

Psalm 48 has 14 verses.....

V. 4 When the kings joined forces (april?=verse 4?)
when they advanced together,
V. 5 THEY SAW HER AND WERE ASTOUNDED; they fled in terror (May?=verse5?)


MAY 14, 1948........Israel became a nation
Marta
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ May 10 2006, 10:17 AM)
Slightly interesting,,,,,,

Psalm 48 has 14 verses.....

V. 4 When the kings joined forces (april?=verse 4?)
when they advanced together,
V. 5 THEY SAW HER AND WERE ASTOUNDED; they fled in terror (May?=verse5?)


MAY 14, 1948........Israel became a nation
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Yes it is!

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gregg
Interesting slightly before:

Genesis 11:9 (?11 September) 'Therefore is the name of it called Babel, because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.'

This is the first book of the bible. Jesus Christ is said to want to come back 2000 years after His crucifixion. If we take the meaning of His message of the flesh must die or in judgement of the flesh, can we take the date 11 Sep 01 as the beginning and since we only have one example of a book of life and the ending paragraph of the word of God it warns about adding or subtracting from the prophesies of the book and if you add to the book then God will add the plagues described?

Just a thought.
~veronique~
Gregg, I am not sure what u are asking or saying regarding adding and subtracting?

Have we been doing that?

I thought we were pointing out comparisons of current events and the scripture numbers and what those particular verses are saying and what the actual current event was?
~veronique~
Gregg, what we are really talking about is......

Prophecy
in
the
Psalms

May 14 1948..........Israel became sovereign
Psalm 48,................appears to speak of this in a prophetic way
vs4,5,6 i believe

If this psalm is NOT a prophetic message,,,,,,re: the above, we r fine with that. It's just speculation regarding prophecy.......
so i assure u we r not adding or taking away
Signet
speak for yourself...
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