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WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
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The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 8 2006, 08:33 PM)
Here we go again!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408/pl_af...ry_060408190253
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
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The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
ADVERTISEMENT
The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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Oh great! So..
QUOTE
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out
We're going to stir up a bunch of ants and get them all ticked off, but that is what they want because if they have their mass chaos then their messiah mahdi guy will appear!
That's exactly what that religious movement wants.Thanks Val for your post...you're on it girl!
It is also on front of the Drudge Report too...this is big news guys...no suprise though.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Yes, let's now bomb Iran. We have enough troops and our strategy has gone so well in Iraq. I'm sure Iran won't retaliate with nuclear weapons. 
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
QUOTE(Marta @ Apr 8 2006, 08:42 PM)
QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 8 2006, 08:33 PM)
Here we go again!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408/pl_af...ry_060408190253
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
ADVERTISEMENT
The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
ADVERTISEMENT
The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out
We're going to stir up a bunch of ants and get them all ticked off, but that is what they want because if they have their mass chaos then their messiah mahdi guy will appear!
That's exactly what that religious movement wants.Thanks Val for your post...you're on it girl!
It is also on front of the Drudge Report too...this is big news guys...no suprise though.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
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That is so true Marta I believe your right on target.
Val
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 8 2006, 08:50 PM)
Yes, let's now bomb Iran. We have enough troops and our strategy has gone so well in Iraq. I'm sure Iran won't retaliate with nuclear weapons.
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
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....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
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Don't say "retaliate with nuclear weapons!" I'm sure Bush has a well-stocked bunker somewhere in case that happens, but the rest of us would have to fend for ourselves. I've always hoped it wouldn't get nuclear until the point of the pouring out of wrath, and I don't think we're anywhere near that point. But I don't think they really care if Iran retaliates--I think they've prepared for their own safety--maybe on some tropical island far from here.
QUOTE(shy1 @ Apr 8 2006, 10:59 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 8 2006, 08:50 PM)
Yes, let's now bomb Iran. We have enough troops and our strategy has gone so well in Iraq. I'm sure Iran won't retaliate with nuclear weapons.
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
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....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
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Don't say "retaliate with nuclear weapons!" I'm sure Bush has a well-stocked bunker somewhere in case that happens, but the rest of us would have to fend for ourselves. I've always hoped it wouldn't get nuclear until the point of the pouring out of wrath, and I don't think we're anywhere near that point. But I don't think they really care if Iran retaliates--I think they've prepared for their own safety--maybe on some tropical island far from here.
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With Bush and Cheney on an island somewhere with one gun, who do you think would survive?
Can you say hunting accident?
...I knew there was a joke in there somewhere.
QUOTE(shy1 @ Apr 8 2006, 08:59 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 8 2006, 08:50 PM)
Yes, let's now bomb Iran. We have enough troops and our strategy has gone so well in Iraq. I'm sure Iran won't retaliate with nuclear weapons.
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
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....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
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Don't say "retaliate with nuclear weapons!" I'm sure Bush has a well-stocked bunker somewhere in case that happens, but the rest of us would have to fend for ourselves. I've always hoped it wouldn't get nuclear until the point of the pouring out of wrath, and I don't think we're anywhere near that point. But I don't think they really care if Iran retaliates--I think they've prepared for their own safety--maybe on some tropical island far from here.
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Hold on........
ROFL at DEB!!
Yes...I saw it! BAAAAAAAHWAAAAAAAA...I had to pick myself up off the floor for that. I was just going to PM you and said..oh well!! You are my keeper girlfriend! Keep me in line please!!
I agree with your post 100% and Shaun's!!
Shaun says:
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Yes, let's now bomb Iran. We have enough troops and our strategy has gone so well in Iraq. I'm sure Iran won't retaliate with nuclear weapons.
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
....By the way, I'm Independent, can't stand politicians in general, but did vote for Bush (the second time, didn't vote at all in 2000) It really was the lesser of two evils. Kerry was, well just an imbecile with 800 dollar hair and an annoying wife. Bush is, well just disappointing, not that I expected a whole lot anyway. He's still a politician when you cut right down to it.
Marta says amen and I voted for Bush the first time and myself the second term!
how can anyone justify using nukes to stop a country from getting nukes. This is gonna create rage throughout the world if it happens. We are the only ones thats used them, and people always remind us of this, but if we use them again, people will lynch us.
QUOTE(End-Time Calling @ Apr 8 2006, 11:06 PM)
how can anyone justify using nukes to stop a country from getting nukes. This is gonna create rage throughout the world if it happens. We are the only ones thats used them, and people always remind us of this, but if we use them again, people will lynch us.
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Lynching order....
1.Jesus
2.United States
It would bring the end of the world.
There is no such thing as a limited nuclear engagement. It's an oxymoron.
There is no such thing as a limited nuclear engagement. It's an oxymoron.
well time to move. hum? Israel sounds good!
They knew this was coming all along. Look, now we have Iran surrounded. Afganistan on one side and Iraq on the other. Is that luck or what?
sojourner
sojourner
QUOTE(sojourner @ Apr 8 2006, 09:13 PM)
They knew this was coming all along. Look, now we have Iran surrounded. Afganistan on one side and Iraq on the other. Is that luck or what?
sojourner
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Ah..so true...
End Time........the NEW JERUSALEM SOUNDS betta!!!!
QUOTE(sojourner @ Apr 8 2006, 11:13 PM)
They knew this was coming all along. Look, now we have Iran surrounded. Afganistan on one side and Iraq on the other. Is that luck or what?
sojourner
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sojourner
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What good fortune! It must all be coincidence.
...and end-timecalling, moving to Saturn sounds good right now.
QUOTE(End-Time Calling @ Apr 8 2006, 10:08 PM)
well time to move. hum? Israel sounds good!
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Good grief! Are you serious, Man?
If so, pack your lawn chair, have some SPF-30 and a pair of Ray Bans
Cause it's gonna be front row seats to this
sorry if I sound like an alarmist, but it is an insane world we live in
Bob, I just opened this topic again and was seriously blinded by the red glare of that huge photo.
Yeah good point, I definately suffer what I gotta to get there. I'm gonna follow christ around like a little puppy! and just cry in awe and joy the whole time none stop.
Wow what a pic! Oh well we know not all will be destroyed now cause the antichrist has to deslolate something!
Wow what a pic! Oh well we know not all will be destroyed now cause the antichrist has to deslolate something!
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 8 2006, 10:19 PM)
Bob, I just opened this topic again and was seriously blinded by the red glare of that huge photo.
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Wow, Shaun. That definitely sounds prophetic! Time to Pray
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Apr 8 2006, 11:23 PM)
QUOTE(Shaun333 @ Apr 8 2006, 10:19 PM)
Bob, I just opened this topic again and was seriously blinded by the red glare of that huge photo.
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Wow, Shaun. That definitely sounds prophetic! Time to Pray
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We need more emoticons here (moderators?), so I can express the act of prayer with a little yellow happy face guy.
WOW!!! HB What a picture.......It clears up so much when you put it that way!
this guy could be praying just doesn't seem like he got the answer he wanted
I need an emoticon to express scraping myself up off the floor. I was down there laughing first, and then there was that bright red flash, and now I'm not thinking it's so funny . . . like I said, don't say "retaliate with nuclear weapons!" And I think Bush and Cheney would be on separate islands. As dumb as Bush may be, he's not stupid, I think. It wouldn't be birdshot this time--it would be buckshot, and he wouldn't come out alive (that is assuming he survived the fallout and the blast).
And Marta, you've got MY back, right?! Love ya, girl!
And Marta, you've got MY back, right?! Love ya, girl!
QUOTE(shy1 @ Apr 8 2006, 09:32 PM)
I need an emoticon to express scraping myself up off the floor. I was down there laughing first, and then there was that bright red flash, and now I'm not thinking it's so funny . . . like I said, don't say "retaliate with nuclear weapons!" And I think Bush and Cheney would be on separate islands. As dumb as Bush may be, he's not stupid, I think. It wouldn't be birdshot this time--it would be buckshot, and he wouldn't come out alive (that is assuming he survived the fallout and the blast).
And Marta, you've got MY back, right?! Love ya, girl!
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And Marta, you've got MY back, right?! Love ya, girl!
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As always I have your back!
Todd, where is that scraping off the floor icon? OH man....
and
BOB!! You owe me some glasses!!!!!!
how do you add a pic?
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Apr 8 2006, 09:17 PM)
QUOTE(End-Time Calling @ Apr 8 2006, 10:08 PM)
well time to move. hum? Israel sounds good!
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Good grief! Are you serious, Man?
If so, pack your lawn chair, have some SPF-30 and a pair of Ray Bans
Cause it's gonna be front row seats to this
sorry if I sound like an alarmist, but it is an insane world we live in
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No HB not an alarmist a realist! This is insane but its the great world we live in. Maybe there is some truth to my 9 year old & 3 year old dream after all. This is absolutley crazy!
Valerie
MESSIAHISCOMING!
somehow, i do not think that bush is listening
to Jesus.
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President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers
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Date: 06.10.2005
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President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
quoted from the telgraph article on the issue:
A senior Pentagon consultant said that Mr Bush believes that he must do "what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, would have the courage to do," and "that saving Iran is going to be his legacy".
hmm.
use a nuke....save people.
nuke iran, save iran.
well. ok then. whatever you say, Mr. President.
A senior Pentagon consultant said that Mr Bush believes that he must do "what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, would have the courage to do," and "that saving Iran is going to be his legacy".
hmm.
use a nuke....save people.
nuke iran, save iran.
well. ok then. whatever you say, Mr. President.
question:
what name did JESUS CALL HEROD?
what animal did he liken him to?
(hint: it is also dick cheney's favorite newschannel)
what name did JESUS CALL HEROD?
what animal did he liken him to?
(hint: it is also dick cheney's favorite newschannel)
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QUOTE(messiahiscoming @ Apr 8 2006, 08:33 PM)
Here we go again!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408/pl_af...ry_060408190253
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
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The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy of vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:8
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A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408/pl_af...ry_060408190253
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is reportedly planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility.
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The article in the April 17 issue of The New Yorker magazine by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy of vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Col 2:8
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A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker.
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Oh great! So..
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One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out
We're going to stir up a bunch of ants and get them all ticked off, but that is what they want because if they have their mass chaos then their messiah mahdi guy will appear!
That's exactly what that religious movement wants.Thanks Val for your post...you're on it girl!
It is also on front of the Drudge Report too...this is big news guys...no suprise though.
http://www.drudgereport.com/
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Press Releases
God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers
***I think that there is only one burning bush...and he once said, take off your shoes for where you stand is holy ground...sustain and maintain life...this is the highest principle...God is the avenger, not the us...."Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord, and again, The Lord shall judge his people" Hebrews 10:30
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Category: News
Date: 06.10.2005
Printable version
President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
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God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers
***I think that there is only one burning bush...and he once said, take off your shoes for where you stand is holy ground...sustain and maintain life...this is the highest principle...God is the avenger, not the us...."Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord, and again, The Lord shall judge his people" Hebrews 10:30
signet
Category: News
Date: 06.10.2005
Printable version
President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.
Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
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I thought this is the kind of thing we have been preparing for.
The ability to be self sufficent in case of a nuclear attack. or any other kind of attack. I have my lamp and oil. literally, figurative and sprititually.
The ability to be self sufficent in case of a nuclear attack. or any other kind of attack. I have my lamp and oil. literally, figurative and sprititually.
Hello Talon, just wanted you to know that I am praying for you.....still searching I see!
ANY ONE here know how to add a pic to post?
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ANY ONE here know how to add a pic to post?
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Where are you trying to get the picture from?
Valerie
ANY ONE here know how to add a pic to post?
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Where are you trying to get the picture from?
Valerie
okay, America invades Iraq and overthrowns their government
next, America invades Afghanastan and overthrows their government
IF America invades Iran
HMMM 3 ribs?
next, America invades Afghanastan and overthrows their government
IF America invades Iran
HMMM 3 ribs?
QUOTE(End-Time Calling @ Apr 9 2006, 01:20 AM)
ANY ONE here know how to add a pic to post?
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endtime, the way I did it in the past is uploading an image from your desktop or wherever onto a blogger site, or something that you may have, and copying that code (ex. http.....etc)
You hit the IMG button above and copy in that exact code. That's how I've done it.
Here you go:
QUOTE(~veronique~ @ Apr 9 2006, 03:59 AM)
okay, America invades Iraq and overthrowns their government
next, America invades Afghanastan and overthrows their government
IF America invades Iran
HMMM 3 ribs?
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next, America invades Afghanastan and overthrows their government
IF America invades Iran
HMMM 3 ribs?
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Substituting Afghanistan for N. Korea, only because we know that they already possess nukes thanks to Bill Clinton, I'd say that Bush is pretty much holding up to his speech after 9/11 in dealing with an axis of evil.
I did read a qoute yesterday in an article that spoke of his convictions to deal with terrorists and thier states claiming that he needed to do it because it's unlikely any successor would.
War is never an immediate action for dealing with whatever the situation is, we all should know that. Bush knows that to but he also knows that these islamofascists cannot be reasoned with diplomatically and taking them out is the only way to deal with them.
How about you all come to my place and we pray our socks off.
Let's huddle together and pray, pray and pray some more.
I want to go home Lord
Let's huddle together and pray, pray and pray some more.
I want to go home Lord
QUOTE(RosielovesJesus @ Apr 9 2006, 08:59 PM)
How about you all come to my place and we pray our socks off.
Let's huddle together and pray, pray and pray some more.
I want to go home Lord
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I think thats a great idea count me in!
Your Friend In Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Please read Daniel chapter 8 as though the Ram is both Iraq and Iran and the Goat is the U.S. ( the Goat is Greece or Javan as the Jewish call Greece..... in Genesis 10 it lists one of the sons of Javan as Tarshish *the meritime people* England is Tarshish and we are one of the "villages of Tarshish" )
Please pray for Bush because if he indeed is the "first king" (the horn on the goat) he will be broken off.
Please pray for Bush because if he indeed is the "first king" (the horn on the goat) he will be broken off.
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War is never an immediate action for dealing with whatever the situation is, we all should know that. Bush knows that to but he also knows that these islamofascists cannot be reasoned with diplomatically and taking them out is the only way to deal with them.
Sorta like Creationists mentality?
QUOTE
How about you all come to my place and we pray our socks off.
Let's huddle together and pray, pray and pray some more.
Let's huddle together and pray, pray and pray some more.
OR, you could actually do something?
What you think bout that one? Perhaps more would change? Could start with stop being racist, biggot condeming anyone not following once religion, whatya think? Good start?
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I think thats a great idea count me in!
Now THATS a surprise. You are going to join her doing... Nothing.... Wow, you must feel proud. What you think about Doing-Something-Idéa? Just something that popped up my head.
QUOTE(blindzebra @ Apr 8 2006, 11:30 PM)
question:
what name did JESUS CALL HEROD?
what animal did he liken him to?
(hint: it is also dick cheney's favorite newschannel)
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what name did JESUS CALL HEROD?
what animal did he liken him to?
(hint: it is also dick cheney's favorite newschannel)
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I dont know?????
QUOTE
(hint: it is also dick cheney's favorite newschannel)
Dont know, FOX? haha.
But that would´nt work, coz Foxes never existed in the middle eas......... *voice trailing off*
I think the Fennec is living in North Africa.. But thats it, nowhere else (they are the only ones).. OH Well.
Did Adam name them by English ot Latin names btw?
Ah right....I don't think us Brits have Fox on our cable TV, just CNN. 
People are saying its just going to become another 'cold war' a sort of stand off where each are waving weapons at one another with the capability of killing millions but too scared to do so......unfortunately we are dealing with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - a man determined to wipe Israel off the map of the world to bring about the Muslim version of their 'messiah'. Frightening thought.
People are saying its just going to become another 'cold war' a sort of stand off where each are waving weapons at one another with the capability of killing millions but too scared to do so......unfortunately we are dealing with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - a man determined to wipe Israel off the map of the world to bring about the Muslim version of their 'messiah'. Frightening thought.
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......unfortunately we are dealing with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - a man determined to wipe Israel off the map of the world to bring about the Muslim version of their 'messiah'. Frightening thought.
Which part? That maybe their Messiah is the right one, and you been on the wrong side all the long?
Actually, i get that impression from Bush. That he wants to kill anyone standing in the way of his profits and oil. ooh, i mean, PEACE Love and understanding, as long as it does not cost him money...
QUOTE(Pocket @ Apr 11 2006, 05:07 AM)
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......unfortunately we are dealing with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - a man determined to wipe Israel off the map of the world to bring about the Muslim version of their 'messiah'. Frightening thought.
Which part? That maybe their Messiah is the right one, and you been on the wrong side all the long?
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WRONG ONE? WRONG SIDE? I'm on the side of Jesus if that is what you are asking, there is no right 'one' or wrong 'one' only THE ONE - Jesus Christ!!
hello precious sarah.
about that "fox"....
here are the references for your consideration:
Luke 13:31, 32.
now please, consider what is written at Matt 8:20 and Luke 9:58.
yet further?
please consider Judges 15:4, 5. SAMSON!
now finally, please look at
Song of Solomon 2:15.
these "foxes" will be CAUGHT....
and they will be tied tail to tail... to bring destruction....they are ruining the vineyards!!
but you, do not you be in fear.
the greek for FOX can also mean this:
"FOX: this can also refer to a wicked person with the probable implication of being cunning or treacherous." --exhaustive concordance.
in addition?
in the Hebrew, the word for Fox can also be translated
JACKAL.
love to you. and to all who seek the Truth from our Father, given in his Word.
love,
bz
about that "fox"....
here are the references for your consideration:
Luke 13:31, 32.
now please, consider what is written at Matt 8:20 and Luke 9:58.
yet further?
please consider Judges 15:4, 5. SAMSON!
now finally, please look at
Song of Solomon 2:15.
these "foxes" will be CAUGHT....
and they will be tied tail to tail... to bring destruction....they are ruining the vineyards!!
but you, do not you be in fear.
the greek for FOX can also mean this:
"FOX: this can also refer to a wicked person with the probable implication of being cunning or treacherous." --exhaustive concordance.
in addition?
in the Hebrew, the word for Fox can also be translated
JACKAL.
love to you. and to all who seek the Truth from our Father, given in his Word.
love,
bz
Thanks BZ!
Big hugz and love to you also.
In His Name
Sarah x
Big hugz and love to you also.
In His Name
Sarah x
Pocket needs to read this:
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=388
I was dead. No medical technology could save me. No technology or knowledge could restore me to life in perfect health with no signs of what killed me. This is called resurrection. I was dead, and I know from experience Jesus is real and alive, and at at a time when I was too young to get indoctorinated, and since my parents didn't start going to church till after my death and resurrection. Some may say the near death experience has been re-created in a lab. I wasn't near death, I was dead. So far, I have not heard of any athiest resurrecting from the dead...those of us who believe, who see this world on the brink of total destruction, I am proof, Jesus is the ressurection, just like He said, and if we die, we will be ressurected. Poor Pocket! He hasn't died and been ressurected as I was and so he doesn't understand and is not a witness to the Truth! Eventually, all the dead will be ressurected during the Great White Throne Judgement, some to everlasting life, and to others, everlasting suffering...the 2nd death. I hope at least everyone gets a chance to hear, read, see and understand. With the Time of the End gettting closer, all will see with their own eyes, like lightening in the West is seen the East, the Son of Man comming with great power and glory! I wonder how those who say He doesn't exist explain His showing up and the ressurection when it happens?
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=388
I was dead. No medical technology could save me. No technology or knowledge could restore me to life in perfect health with no signs of what killed me. This is called resurrection. I was dead, and I know from experience Jesus is real and alive, and at at a time when I was too young to get indoctorinated, and since my parents didn't start going to church till after my death and resurrection. Some may say the near death experience has been re-created in a lab. I wasn't near death, I was dead. So far, I have not heard of any athiest resurrecting from the dead...those of us who believe, who see this world on the brink of total destruction, I am proof, Jesus is the ressurection, just like He said, and if we die, we will be ressurected. Poor Pocket! He hasn't died and been ressurected as I was and so he doesn't understand and is not a witness to the Truth! Eventually, all the dead will be ressurected during the Great White Throne Judgement, some to everlasting life, and to others, everlasting suffering...the 2nd death. I hope at least everyone gets a chance to hear, read, see and understand. With the Time of the End gettting closer, all will see with their own eyes, like lightening in the West is seen the East, the Son of Man comming with great power and glory! I wonder how those who say He doesn't exist explain His showing up and the ressurection when it happens?
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