I find it amazing in God's plans for all things, how we might hear of the Israeli election results the following day on the day of a major eclipse.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/03/28...e.ap/index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4849224.stm

It portends of a major prophecy???

Kinda wish Shekel had something to say about it

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEmo...06/TSE2006.html

Well it just so happens that I was going to post the above link when I saw that you were ahead of me!

I find the thing about the Israeli election very interesting. Thanks for pointing that out!

But more important than all of that is the fact that the eclipse marks the ancient new year of Abib given to Moses (tomorrow evening). And this year is very special in that this (religious) New Year is 50 jubilees from the decree to Nehemiah in 445 BC as prophesied in the book of Daniel (9). (A jubilee is the 50th year of a 49-year cycle. Thus 49 x 50 years is highly symbolic.) The first 490 years ("seventy weeks") was to Christ, then four more 490 periods until now as I write, or tommorow as I said.

(I have not checked it yet but since the eclipse occurs tommorow I have the feeling that a strict naked-eye sighting of the first new moon might make this evening the New Year and tomorrow evening the official one. But I have not checked out that detail yet about today. Remember that when we speak of the New Year we mean the religious New Year instituted by Moses. Jews today just keep the civil New Year which is half a year apart from the religious one.)

See my websites for more on the seventy weeks of Daniel.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that this Passover is also a lunar eclipse visable in Israel (as is this solar eclipse)?

I might just add that since I came across the information about this eclipse just now by "accident" while I was investigating the timing of the first naked eye comet in over a year (in early March), ---and then I went to put that info about the eclipse on the forum only to find that you had just did it a minute or so earlier --- kind of makes me think that God is trying to say something?

This place actually cracks me up at the present time! Literally. I fight back tears of pure laughter....

Ya, I got word from god that this would be a timing thing when a jewish man (rabbi?) came on TV last year just before the September 11 week of remembrance and said of the holy places now being given to the Palistines, "I am sure they will take care of the holy places. After all, we serve the same God."

I am not lieing. He actually said that. And then WHAM, if it were not for AppyGroove helping me keep my head that entire Sunday, I would have literally gone mad. God was very, very angry.... Even after that day and until September 11, it was all I could do to bear it.

The United States hammered the coffen shut helping that deal go through. We deserve what we get from Him.

leia

http://www.tckillian.com/greg/celestal.html

LUNAR eclipses......related to Biblical- Jewish feasts and


April 15, 1995
10:07 UT
Partial 5%
Passover

October 8, 1995
18:10 UT
Penumbral lunar
Hag HaSuccoth

April 3/4, 1996
22:21 UT
Total lunar
Passover

September 26/27,1996
1:12 UT
Total lunar
Erev Hag HaSuccoth

March 24, 1997
1:40 UT
Partial 92%
Shushan Purim

September 16, 1997
18:46 UT
Total lunar
Days of Repentance

March 13, 1998
2:14 UT
Penumbral lunar
Shushan Purim

January 31, 1999
14:04 UT
Penumbral lunar
Tu B'Shevat

January 21, 2000
2:02 UT
Total lunar
Tu B'Shevat

March 3, 2007
20:16 UT
Total lunar
Purim

God knows what is done in ignorance and there is great mercy for that. I checked the Apostle Paul's "website" on mercy...

1Ti 1:12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; 1Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief. 1Ti 1:14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

1Co 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which [was bestowed] upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

God loves us. We may have ignorantly perecuted Him by this event but it is forgivable. I suspect the USA will be "tasked" like Paul...

Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: Act 9:16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

Maz

Has anyone visited Israel lately? We had a woman in our ministry come from South Africa. Her name is Shana and her daughter. Her husband was killed in an autobomile accident. PLEASE pray for her.
She went to Israel and said the Christian Jews, the women where wearing white instead of the black they ususally wear. They are dressing as the bride, waiting for our Lord Jesus to come back...WOW Anyone know of this?

I see the article about astrology fell on deaf ears...It's wrong to begin watching eclipses as signs and say well God made um and satan stole um.

We are to look to God's word. Heaven and earth will pass a way but God's
word will remain.

Eclipse's in astrology have always been a sign in the area they occur over. It's no surprise or coincidence to me that it is...a reality. The eclipse unfolds as transiting planets hit the latitude and longitude with in a few degrees of the occultation.

We don't need these for signs. The signs that follow us have to do with casting out demons, healing the sick, raising the dead.ect.

Why is it ok to base knowledge on a reinterpretation of the Zodiac?

It's still the zodiac and God doesn't want us to have anything to do with it.

Let's not prognosticate according to the stars. Just because you are a Christian doesn't mean you have the right to claim use of it from satan.

I find most people have no idea as to the power of the heavens. When they discover a reality they say "oh look what God has done.

I say that before satan left heaven he put a cd in the harddrive and took it with him. Now he's offering up to you the same way he did to eve. Knowledge.

I have to say what l believe. It's been clearer each day. And l owe this to you.

Miki, I don't think any of us are studying the astrology thingy here....I do understand where you are coming from, and I know your heart is in the right place for all of us.

Isaiah 51:6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Luke 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Ephesians 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

I will be praying for Shana. AND, no I am not aware of the Chrisitan Jewish women wearing white. But indeed this is a WOW moment!

Doesn't scripture say that they'll be signs in the sun the moon and the stars? I don't think it is just happenstance that Mars (the war planet) was as closest to the earth as it has been in thousands of years just this past year. We are entering into very dangerous times.

In Rev. John describes a blood moon.... In ancient Jewish culture this meant a complete lunar eclipse (they didn't understand planet orbits...obviously). This certainly qualifies as a sign in the sun, moon, and stars. It is not astrology or following the zodiac at ALL!

Paul tells women to dress modestly. He doesn't instruct us to not be women at all. God made us feminine and wants us to reflect beauty- we are the crown of creation... exactly why Eve was created last.

The Bible warns us that we shouldn't make money an idol. Yet there are many in the church that shame Christians into believing we shouldn't have it at all... which is poppycock. It takes money to advance God's kingdom.

I'm using these illustrations to prove a point... there is almost always a balance. Astrology is wrong. We all agree on that. But, we aren't reading horoscopes here... we're talking about the Israeli election that just so happens to go hand and hand with a lunar eclipse. It is after all God's creation and He uses EVERY available resource to tell us about His plan and His character. We can go too far when we condemn trying to discern what HE is saying, making wrong, hurtful, and critical judgements. Calling this witchcraft and the works of the occult is a bit too far in my opinion.

Sometimes when God brings us out of something, we fear coming "near" where we used to be. I have a friend that was brought out of a permiscuous lifestyle. Her boyfriend was a drug dealer and she was living VERY comfortably. Then she found Jesus. SHE IS A MIGHTY WOMAN OF GOD who discipled my now pastor/mentor. For years she dressed VERY modestly, didn't want to wear makeup, and thought that drawing ANY attention to herself was just wrong. She called it "setting boundaries". That's where she was and what she was convicted to do. However, God brought godly women into her life that showed her that she could have fun and be beautiful and not feel guilty. Only now is she walking in true freedom and allowing her femininity to show. She is blossoming like a lovely virtuous flower, and it is beautiful to watch.

I see your point Miki. It is not about the signs in the heavens as a means unto themselves. But it is a means unto the end, as the Lord has brought them to the fore in scripture to point the way. There was a star over Christ's birth place. The most important event known to man apart from the crucifixtion. And then at His crucifixtion it was dark and there was an earthquake.

When it was dark in Egypt there was light in Goshen. Apparently the darkness in Egypt was as severe as if you were in a cave with the lights out. Absolutely no light.

Mat 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!

I think the darkened heavens will be a natural consumation of the spiritual darkness coming this way.

Isa 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

Jesus' glory is evidenced by the sun and we His people are as the reflected light of His glory as seen in the reflected sunlight from the moon. We are to be a perfect reflection of His great light.

Psa 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Psa 19:2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. Psa 19:3 [There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard. Psa 19:4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Psa 19:5 Which [is] as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, [and] rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. Psa 19:6 His going forth [is] from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD [is] sure, making wise the simple. Psa 19:8 The statutes of the LORD [are] right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD [is] pure, enlightening the eyes.

I don't know how I got into all this. Mystical. 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

I worship the God who created the stars. Yet I do not think these things are mere coincidences. Quite the opposite I feel that it is very significant reqarding biblical prophecy. If what Shekel had to say about this being the 50th Jubilee year since the decree WOW! That is big. Then to add the eclipse this is just confirmation to me. Gen 1:4 says "And God said let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years." I feel that God named the stars and set them in the heavens for signs, and then man came along and perverted what God had intended for good.
Job 26:11,13-14 tells of the "crooked serpent" which I think is a reference to the constellation. He also makes reference to to certain objects in the constellation of Taurus. Speaking of Arcturus, Orion and Pleiades, in Job 9:8-10. Which is very interesting that Job speaks of these, making reference to the end When Orion (Jesus the Messiah) returns to judge the world. You should check out the book "The Gospel in the Stars" by Joseph Seiss, you might find it very interesting. He details the constellations and their meanings. The constellations actually tell a story, THE GOSPEL STORY to be exact. Each constellation and their sidereal, side pieces tell of the first and second advent of the Messiah. I took a 16 week prophecy class with J. R. Church, of Prophecy In the News, in the course we devoted two chapters to the stars. I was very amazed as to what I learned. Yes I agree the religion of astrology has no place in the christian life. Yet I feel that God gave us many scripture references to the sun, moon and stars as signs. Look at Revelation 12:1 it says, "and there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" It says the woman clothed in the sun which indicates she is hidden. This is exactly what happens when the sun is in the constellation Virgo. When the sun is in Virgo you cannot see the stars that make up the constellation. The sun and moon are together cleary indicates that John is describing a new moon. The only time the sun and the moon can be together is when there is a new moon, just as the only time a lunar eclipse can take place is with a full moon. A new moon always marks the beginning of a new month on the Jewish calendar. Because the sun is in Virgo, the month must be Tishri/Cheshvan , which is our Sept.. Oct. When the full moon is at the head of Virgo , without the sun, it is Nisan and Passover. Therefore, John is very specific with his descriptions of the signs. Virgo represents both the house of Israel and Mary. It is a picture of the birth of the Messiah on Rosh Hashanah. It could also represent a future time for Israel 's trouble (pain of labor) Look at vs. 2 "and she being with child cried, travailing in birth and pained to be delivered." it could be a reference to future "Jacobs Trouble"
It was David who pinned the ever famous "The heavens decare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth His handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech and night unto night sheweth knowledge. For centuries astrolgers have been prognosticationg the future, using the heavens. I say to you where did they get the idea so such a thing? Astrology is a wicked and perverted religion it was the one of the idolatries of the Old Testament and should be regarded as satanic. Yet, According to Flavis Josephus, Seth the son of Adam invented "that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies and their order"
(" Antiquities," Book 1, Chapter 2, Paragraph 3). Before the development of astrology, God placed His intriguing message in the sky. Every pagan religion down through the ages is nothing more than a perversion of that original story. I agree I do not seek for signs, but when HE gives them I certainly want to take a look.

Your Friend In Christ
Valerie

Messiahiscoming

I was surely going to get a phone call from you tomorrow Val, honey!! RIGHT? you posted this late..i did not see the post regarding the elections, but as I searched the net to find Sharon still "staying" in a coma., I saw the elections and what the guy represents regarding Withdrawals from West Bank by 2010. AWESOME the elections and the Stars/ECLIPSE.......awesome

"The WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND"

Sounds like very important wisdom being shared here and now I don't think i'll sleep.....................I love you Valerie............all

Miki replied

We don't need these for signs. The signs that follow us have to do with casting out demons, healing the sick, raising the dead.ect.
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Miki, Who am I to say I don't NEED these things for signs.....As Valerie point out, what HE said in Genesis,,,,,,let them be for signs,,,,,,THE Gospels, Jesus tells us there shall be Signs in the Sun, Moon and stars...........SIGNS.......He told us they'd be signs.

Satan always tries to counterfeit,,,,he didn't steal the constellations' by astrology, God gave us each one, special interests and some are using their special interest INCORRECTLY, ie: astrology, horoscopes,witchcraft, But when our God says it is so, it is.

We are not worshipping the stars, we are worshipping our God, whom we are very very anxious to meet in person, very soon, so we watch..........If you chose not to need these signs, okay, my hope that you take the news in hopeful manner, as I know many here when they speak of signs, current events are most often only showing OUR HOPE,,that soon........I don't mean to come across harsh, there is no way for you to know my "tone", please take this lightly, in Christ Always and Forever...........Veronica

Good topic so very interesting. Its a bit like watching a movie and waiting for the plot to unfold. When we see our Father in His "allpowerfulness" moving into the end-time arena and getting ready, its so awesome.
I can almost hear an orchestra tuning up for the grand finale The universe is already in place, all the stars and planets have used their time to move to where they must be for the last show.All the players are ready. Some heavenly bodies are speeding some distance away so that they will arrive exactly on the right day to do their part.
I think God is going to stand up from His throne
God is about to lift His baton........................
Believe me, there will be no discord in the final music.

angels and prophets were sent to proclaim the glory and messages and judgements of God.

but we do not worship angels or prophets.

stars too delcare the glory of God, in the heavens.

all creation declares the glory of God.

but we do not worship the stars or creation, of any sort.


we worship God.


good topic, i agree, cornelius.

love,
bz


miki, how is your dad doing? thinking of you and him...

This post has been editied out of conscience and fairness.

God doesn't tell us to track the latitude and longitude of eclipses. Astrology throughout history had presented far greater revelation than what you see presented at the next occultation. I know that but you don't, so you are excited and fascinated by it.

From Barbara Aho's article:

"...A New Ager in Christian garb will promote an occult doctrine such as pantheism or theosophy or gnosticism or astrology, but interject a paragraph or two, or even a chapter, condemning the very practice he or she is promoting. Usually, a distinction is made between the *occult* form of the false doctrine and the *Christian* version, which is “of God”, while the occult version is “Satan's counterfeit” of God's work. This rationalization seems to sell a lot of false doctrine as we observed in the false revival, where barking and roaring were defended as manifestations of the Holy Spirit, which Satan counterfeits in New Age cults..."

No one is accusing you of 'worshiping' the stars...

Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it. Is. 47:13-14

God doesn't want us to fall back into calculation and stargazing. He will witness by his Spirit.

Signs in the heavens are for sure but perhaps there will be explosive sun activity that is out of the ordinary. Not like cyclical astrological phenomenon.
Perhaps a comet explodes in space. What will the astrologers do if the moon breaks up? In divination there is always a symbolic answer.

I never liked James Kennedy's work. As l began to read l just shook my head. Thinking 'come on already.' I've never heard anybody dare to refute him and Bullinger and Seiss till l read Aho's article.

This is the slow creeping l see back to roots of a false religion.

When l was in Astrology there was mundane astrology and esoteric astrology. Once you got into it you didn't want anything to do with the mundane...In fact that's where the kooks hung out. Newspaper astrologers, table tilters and the likes. You wanted to go right for the meat...And when l searched the root of the meat it went all the way back to Babylon and Kabbalah.

When Marta started bringing in the conspiracy theories... l read.

I think what pushed me into the place to really question was Jerry Golden's pictures of illuminati head quarters, so to speak, in Israel (Jerusalem?) Kaballah is all wound up in illuminate and Rosicrucian's.

There's far to much physical evidence to deny it. Gematria is Kabballah. I can't seem to separated it. I tried. It won't work. The catch phrase 'simple biblical gematria' isn't an explanation. How can any Gematria be simple. Counting his number in revelations doesn't justify what l see happening all around. Not just here. We're preparing the way all right. Revelation is coming all right. But of who who? And by what means?

Those are some of the fears creeping into my mind..."Why the foreplay" someone once said in frustration. They have charts...we have charts.
Could l feel that very same thing...? l see something that stretches far beyond Catholicism?


The 'Deep Impact' code sent up a red flag...I started getting scared. Not just at a technique but what l saw personally in it for me. Why would God reveal something to me that had a confirmation in my astrological past?
Also from this article by Aho:

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. - Romans 1:23

Probably the most famous astronomer of the 18th century was Sir William Herschel (1738-1822), who discovered the planet Uranus, many new nebulae and stars, and was also the first person to correctly describe the form of our Galaxy, the Milky Way. Herschel complained of the Egyptian chart of stars, “The heavens are scribbled over with interminable snakes.”


Kennedy's incredibly blasphemous book states that the Zodiac presents the way of salvation, based on the word zoad which, in Sanskrit, means 'a way'. The word 'zodiac', however, is derived from the Greek word zoon which means “animal” from which comes the word zodiakos, meaning “a circle of animals.” For his purposes, Kennedy prefers the esoteric (gnostic), rather than the exoteric (obvious), meaning of the word".

When we say "Prepare the way" What does that mean to you? What do you think it might mean to the antichrist? His way is being prepared too. Is it just through the obvious blatant new age approach. Or does he hope to deceive even the elect by infiltrating a weary church who want more than the quack and barking he provided at some of the meeting in recent past.

Don't get hung up in the fascination of the signs but be sober and diligent. As wise as serpents...As gentle as doves.

Photos of the already finished eclipse for March 29th....

http://www.spaceweather.com/eclipses/gallery_29mar06.htm

Here is animated map showing how the eclipse was seen from all over the world. Looks like Egypt got a good view and it looks like the rest of the Middle East wouldn't have seen anything. Africa got to see a total eclipse.
http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/swpod...hn_big_anim.gif

AOL Research & Listen Skywatcher Alert....htttp:www.reference.aol.com/space/nightsky?

the moon snaps the Pleiades star cluster out of sight. April 1st
The moon will pass in front of the Pleiades just after dusk.

All God's creation is wonderous and marvelous...but we worship God, he is the artist, creator of all living things.

This post has been edited out of conscience and fairness. I'm sorry Dean.
I won't think of myself more highly than l ought...Just because l'm confused and don't know doesn't mean that others don't. I don't lay down my caution but l will lay down the opinions roped to the past. I will work them out between myself and God.

Miki, and I do too. I know where your heart is, and that is what matters most to me.