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Shaun333

Mar 23 2006, 01:55 PM

Spiritist Religion Spreads-"Combines Christianity + Reincarnation"

Here's the middle of the article (click link for all).

CHRISTIANITY, REINCARNATION

Spiritism melds Christianity with a belief in reincarnation and contends people can be guided to better lives by mature spirits.
Vanderlei Marques, president of Spiritist Council of the United States, said people are drawn to Spiritism to find, "logical and convincing responses to questions such as 'Who am I,' 'Where do I come from,' 'Where am I going,' and 'What is the objective of my existence."'
The U.S. movement typically grows when a Brazilian sets up a group in his neighborhood, attracting other Brazilians, Hispanics and some white Americans.

The Spiritist group in Manhattan is small, with just a few dozen members, but the movement is growing rapidly, especially among Latinos in the U.S. Northeast.

In 2001 there were 116,000 Spiritualists in the United States, up from none recorded in 1990, U.S. Census data shows. That classification includes a variety of similar religions where spirits are invoked, including some New Age religions.

Formed five years ago, the New York group meets several times weekly in a grungy arts rehearsal building on Eighth Avenue. Down the hall young New York women dance in costume ina belly-dancing class. And as they meet, opera singing can be heard from next door.

Norma Guimaraes helped establish the first Spiritist group in New York's Astoria neighborhood in 1989 that has about 200 members today. Now renting a room, the group wants to buy a building, and since last year has saved $11,000 of the $200,000 down payment they expect to need.
"Spiritism is about understanding what life is about and what death is about. It is deep psychology," said Guimaraes, who works as a housekeeper.
On Saturdays in Astoria sick people come for treatments to their energy to help cure their diseases -- something Spiritists encourage to augment medical treatment. "I have seen people cured from cancer and other diseases," Guimaraes said.

Spiritists hold more conventional Sunday meetings with lectures on spiritual life.
The movement has more than two million followers in Brazil, centered in the state of Bahia, where there is a confluence of Christian beliefs and African traditions such as voodoo.

"They have a saying in Brazil; Catholic by day, Spiritist by night," said Anthropology Professor David Hess at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York.

If you read the article, it truly is pathetic. This just combines some truth with lies and does more damage to people who are really hurting or in need of Jesus.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're told, "It's okay, this life may be a failure, but you can always come back as a frog and things will be great. Perhaps get your own frog reality series."

onetiggerroo

Mar 23 2006, 02:21 PM

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 6 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb --- speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Marta

Mar 23 2006, 07:10 PM

QUOTE(onetiggerroo @ Mar 23 2006, 01:21 PM)

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 6 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb --- speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
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Tig,
Thank you for the above scriptures...

This is also another controversial topic. Actually I have struggled with this concept myself....but a couple verses come to mind here:

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Hebrews 9 (King James Version)

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

When a verse speaks to me, I always like to look at the entire chapter and the scripture before and after.

Here is another verse that stands out to me.

Why?

The teaching of reincarnation is to be as gods or like GOD...perfection and correction of the human soul.......

Therefore, these verses speak BIG TIME:

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Genesis 3 (King James Version)

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Again I restate this:

The teaching of reincarnation is to be as gods or like GOD...perfection and correction of the human soul.......

Looking forward to more comments and scriptures.