My belief is that christians should try as hard as they can to survive past 2012 (which is suppose to be the worst year out of the 6. 2006-2012). There will be many survivors of this, but christians must survive because we must spread the word of God once the world has to start over. Whos going to do that if all christians want the rapture to come so they can all leave the world? Christianity and the bible must be tought after the end of times, and therefore at least some christians have to try to stick around.

Christians of the Church Age will be taken out of the world. The remnant, the 144,000 Jews (Revelation 14) will become the witnesses of Christ during the Tribulation when the bride of Christ is taken away.

actually tha bible codes claimed that the though time ll be from 2005 to 2012 the 7 years of apocalyps


the bible codes said that this time starts on october 4 2005 , n ends on the year 2012..

on october 3 2005 there was an eclipse , like depicting the start of this times, the eclipse was visible on portugal n spain , that very day the fears of the bird flu started also the earthquake on kashimir n the landslides on mexico . i though the future was going to be awfull ..
but the fact of the matter is that we have to pray so much on this time of tribulations for the faithfull persons as well as for the people that dont know God they need more help certainly.

but there ll be few of the faithfulls that could past all this tribulations.
we have to get more closer to God, more than ever , and we must pray taht God's will ll happen above all things , that way we dont have need to worry . whathever ll happen it ll be God's will n we ll be blessed so we dont have to fear whatsoever.

Whattya think would ahppen if all the trumps and seals happened by 12/21/2012, and everyone was still here? Is there any scripture to prove that it would be otherwise, or are we repeating what we've heard elsewhere?

By the way, that date is the "Golden Age" prophecized about by the Mayans as the last day of the world, and the beginning of Viracocha's return. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

I'd be very careful about accepting someone as Messiah just bnecause of the date.

The human race will be extinct by 2013. God can't afford to leave anyone behind that was influenced by this current world because then there would be chance that it could all happen again. God does not want that. He almost made the human race extinct in the Great Flood, but He WILL this time. The Bible also alludes to this in Revelation, basically saying "the remnant of them were slain by Jesus' sword and all the birds filled themselves with their flesh." The only ones who make it out will be those taken to heaven in the rapture.

The Codes say:

2012
Human
Extinction

Comet
I will tear it apart with my own hands
It will be destoyed
earth annihilated

No one soul will live past all that.

there is also a bible code that say

2012

comet

they repent of their sins ,

n i smited the comet

n the earth was saved

i saw on history channel that there r 2 versions of this very same event, we should better read the bible ,


well the mayas said that the wolrd ll be destory n regenerated n that is accurate , cause the bible say that after armagedon there ll be 1000 years of total peace ,

the mayas say that the end of the world ll happen from december 21 2012 , till december 23 2012.

something remarkable about the mayas is that their predictions r accurate , they predicted when the spanishs arrived , n so much other things ,
I think they were guided by God , cause they were a very peacefull race of people.

also i have other sources that predict that the armagedon ll be 3 days of darkness , when all the armys n countrys of the world ll attack Israel ,

at that time Jesus ll come for second time not as a human, like must of people belive , but like a king on the sky, as a great signal in the sky.

that ll be the start of the armagedon .

n God promise that on the time of tribulation the one who ask for help, ll be helped .

so i dont think the world ll end on 2012 .

I saw that History channel show on the codes. They showed the code

Comet
2012
I will tear it to pieces
It will be destroyed

They misunderstood the code and said that it meant the comet would be destroyed by God and we would be saved, they even showed a computer animation of a comet breaking apart. The problem is, if you go back to that code and search it little more closely, it also says

Earth annihilated

So they were wrong. I don't think God would put multiple outcomes into the codes, that would lead to confusion, and God is not the author of confusion. The codes are what God KNOWS is going to happen, they aren't God saying "This is a warning, you can stop this if you try." They're saying "This is what I know will happen, I know everything, YOU CAN'T STOP IT, but you can save yourself FROM IT."

Honestly, do you think everyone in the world will repent? If that happened the Book of Revelation wouldn't even exist. There are people in this world who wouldn't repent, even if a comet was about to kill them. The world wouldn't end if everyone dropped everything and repented, but God says in the Bible that it absolutely will (no ifs, ands, or buts about it), so God would have to be lying if it were even possible that everyone would repent and the world would be saved. And we all know that God never lies.

u say that the codes r not confusing , the bible codes contradic each other!.. , therefore there r some codes that aint true ... for example i found one that claim that the nuclear holocaust ll be on 2005 ..

if u read all the bible codes u ll understand that only a 10% of them r true or is 10% of them what we can take for granted.

also on the bible u cant understand everything that the bible say.
read the apocalyps n tell me u know perfectly whats going to happen. I understand the apocalypse quite good but its imposible to know exactly whats going to happen .

n all mankind wont repend but if a big amout of people repent I think could be enough cause God have so much mercy on us ,

all this make sense, a sign on the sky (a cross) could be the comet ,
n the bible claim that all mankind wont die , the bible also claim that they ll be 144 000 israilities from the 12 tribs of israel that ll be save by God at that time ,

well i saw this on national geography a documentary about a comet of the size of Manhattan , n it fell on Russia on the start of the 20 century ,,
but witnesses claimed that the comet blowed on the atmosphere n it burned all the green weed on a far wood of syberia ,
if that comet have fell, belive m we would not be here any of us , so God protected us ,
so this things could happen but we r on a time that mankind have become awfull n everytime there r less n less religious people .
so the comet should fall, but im sure God ll protect their chosen ones . n they ll have a new world with 1000 years of peace..

are you talking about tunguska? In siberia?


a comet the size of Manhattan??


1909 or about then?


Oh them wicked wicked media outlets.....


I sometimes wonder if these " tv programs" are not designed specifically to take the relevance of places like this site away.

Turn off the tv.....turn to your bible.....I have this plaque on my wall to remind me everyday not to get sucked into the mainstream media bullpucky.

with each new program comes a new twist to deceive.



said with love

Jeep

That is so true. We can read the bible and know what will happen before we read any news or watch the news. God's words are always accurate!!

I dont understand what r u talkign about pal, that comet have nothing to do with the bible. i just proved that its posible that a comet gets smite by the atmosphere ,
if that wasent true we all ll be death right now.

I think the events on the apocalyps are accurately n perfectly depicted on the bible. n when we read them we can know what is going to happen this 7 years

on my opinion I think that every seal is a year.
there r 7 seal, n the apocalyps ll be 7 years ,
but still is dificult to comprehen the book of the apocalyps perfect.

but if one read it all, one can understand that its the story of mankind that is wrotten there .

First of all I want to point something out.....



If you are truley from the Body of Christ, you don't call your own brother 'PAL'. I think that is very condescending and you owe Jeep an apology. I'm not trying to be nit-picky or anything, it just sounds disrespectful. No hard feelings, but I wanted to bring that to your attention. (on my part)

Are you from America? Just curious and didn't you sign your name 'FRED ZEPPELIN'? If you did........... That cracked me up.

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BTW........Who started this topic....Sobez? Sobez, doesn't this whole idea of the 2012 end of the world thing come from the MAYAN CALENDER? Check into that will you please.

I was commenting about the portion of an above post that said the tunguska event was a protective act from God, and how a 2012 event could be likened to this
If I am correct someone posted that a comet/meteor the size of Manhattan was destroyed just above our atmosphere.

the only evidence of any event were trees laid down for several hundred square miles, and no subsequent reports of meteor fragments, much less meteor dust or fallout that would have certainly occurred.

did something happen? sure it did...are there other factors?

the fact that no meteor was ever recorded still stands to this day...that was merely speculation from the accounts of a mongolian tribe's account..
can I say mongolian tribes here?


Oh yes and what was that?? a green light? a green burst




Tunguska.....comet/meteor/space something skips off the atmosphere...


alrighty then


lol

your pal


Jeep

[quote=Marta,Jan 16 2006, 06:33 PM]
First of all I want to point something out.....

[quote]I dont understand what r u talkign about pal
[/quote]

If you are truley from the Body of Christ, you don't call your own brother 'PAL'. I think that is very condescending and you owe Jeep an apology. I'm not trying to be nit-picky or anything, it just sounds disrespectful. No hard feelings, but I wanted to bring that to your attention. (on my part)

Are you from America? Just curious and didn't you sign your name 'FRED ZEPPELIN'? If you did........... That cracked me up.

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BTW........Who started this topic....Sobez? Sobez, doesn't this whole idea of the 2012 end of the world thing come from the MAYAN CALENDER? Check into that will you please.

Now Marta,

I asked for it...but thanks for coming to my defense..


Tunguska.....comet/meteor skips off atmosphere...the size of Manhattan....


how bout them apples...

alrighty then

I am ever so close to reliquishing my mod abilities so I can jump into some of these conversations a little deeper...


lol....

Jeep

Brothers and Sisters in Christ and those seeking,
Eyes to see and Ears to hear through the LORD Jesus Christ.

ledzeppelin,
you wrote..
"I think the events on the apocalyps are accurately n perfectly depicted on the bible. n when we read them we can know what is going to happen this 7 years"

You are correct that the writings in the Bible are accurate and pefect. If you believe that they are then you must believe also that all of the writings in the
Bible are accurate, perfect and true. Praise Jesus. I hope you are reading the
other parts of the Bible too, especially the four gospels so that you know what you are supposed to be doing when Jesus comes back for us. I am glad you are here at this forum. May I please ask how old you are and what country you're from? You must be a Led Zeppelin fan and you probably play either the guitar or drums. I play the drums and used to be a Zep fan before I gave my heart to Jesus. Too
bad about Jon Bonham. He was a great drummer. I hope you're sharing Jesus with
your friends. They might not know about Him and Jesus will use you to bring the
Truth about Jesus and the Bible to them. That is the best way to show our Love for
God is to share Jesus with as many as we can. God bless you as you allow Him to use you to preach the gospel for Him.

Marta..
I don't think Led meant any disrespect to Jeep when he called him pal. I found the way it was worded to be funny for some reason...the computer lingo and all..

Peace, Tom

"You are correct that the writings in the Bible are accurate and pefect. If you believe that they are then you must believe also that all of the writings in the
Bible are accurate, perfect and true. Praise Jesus. I hope you are reading the
other parts of the Bible too, especially the four gospels so that you know what you are supposed to be doing when Jesus comes back for us. "




I have recently been overwhelmed by all that I need to learn and read in God's word, and have been jumping all over in my readings. This spoke to me this morning, and I am going to reread the Gospels with much prayer for understanding. God spoke to me this morning thru your words...many thanks!

Hello family,

Well, I did read most of the posts throughout here, can I just give a thought of my own here? Well, I guess some will read this anyways...so here goes, now remember this is all IMHO!

I have been thinking on the timing of the Lords and how one may come to some understanding of the times we live in...now last night I was in prayer about "His timing" when I thought this:

I know "many do believe that the jewish holidays have something to do with "His arrival"...and I think that be true, but not the only factor. Since there are two jewish calendars, "whose is right?", so with that thought in mind, and the fact that "no one really knows what year it is", and the only calendar that lines up with our Lord is the one we use! BTW, this year Passover and Easter fall just like back in our Lords day, when He was crucified, coincidence???

So, if we use "the regular daily calendar" which since His birth has been keeping count, so to speak, does this make any sense?....The year 2000...nothing happened, just like the year "0", there is no such year, so to speak, but, now we can start at 1, which we all know what happened in 2001, right?, well, the birth pangs just keep on going, 02, 03, 04, just passed 05...kinda look at last year as "satans domain"...now, the birth pangs are still moving forward....now we are at 06...which 6 we should know is the number of man and possibly the "year of man", that's almost a scarier thought than last years trials, then onto 07...God's perfect number....08....an even higher number of Gods...09...the heavenlies....10....infinity....So if the birth pangs were also for seven years....next year in 07..."we should be going on home"....08...the 144,000 witnesses will be very busy....09 last call of the Lords.....and the 2010 Judgement earth day arrives...as in 2010 the AC is in full power.

Now, I know this all just me thinking and now here you all get to hear "me thinking out loud", and what do you think? I am really curious to hear "what anyone thinks of this possibility? Please, your sister, hannah fievel

nice theory hannah...

hi guys well im not from America , im from central america , also I have family on Spain.

I play guitar ,also I like to learn languages as well I know some italian n german ,n I love to practice my english here, n at the same time, I like to learn more n more bout God's word.

the fact I told jeep pal, lol im sorry , i just heard that word, though was more respectfull.

Gott segnen Sie
Dio gli bendica
Dios los bendiga

This is a really great thought! I love the things that this online family comes up with! You're a really smart sister, hannah!

Hello Ledzepplin,
I do not play guitar, but I do love that hear a well played guitar.
You say that you like to learn more and more about God's Word. I thought that this might interest you. It is from Deuteronomy 18:20-22. It says, "But the prophet who shall speak a word presumptuously (this means stepping out of bounds, saying something that God has not said) in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he shall speak in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. You may say in your heart, 'How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him."
Here is another one that is important. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, "All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work."
I don't know if anyone has suggested it to you, or whether you have discovered on your own, just how rich the Book of Proverbs really is. Try making it a practice to read some of this each day! It will truly bless you! May you truly be blessed as you study God's Word! The scriptures that I gave you are out of the New American Standard Bible.
justaservant

Hello led,

Nice to meet you!! You live in Central America? Can I be nosy and ask "which country" you are from?

My family came out of "Spain" also and traveled from there into Denmark...to London, and then right after the civil war....the majority of family had come here! My mom looks totally spanish-middle eastern, I have my mom's skin tone, but sure don't tan like she does, I've tried! Oh well, still pretty pasty come winter.. Oh well, you can't have everything!

I did way back in high school, took spanish classes, I know a little spanish, but not fluent enough to keep up a desent conversation...I understand much more than I can speak! I can say "Via con Dios"! How's that?!!! And truly, May you go with God, amen. YSIC hannah fievel and SHALOM to you!

BTW, not to burst bubbles, but Plant and Palmer are both illuminatti, which ever one is the lead singer, sorry, not so good with names, but he lives and owns a lot of Aliester Crowleys stuff, including one of his Mansions in england...I told my hubby about all that, and then the discovery show or one of those, did a story about the groups envolvement in the occult. Stairway to heaven is about "reaching spiritual enlightenment" in the order of the illuminatti....sad, isn't it, such great musicians...."led" down the wrong path. Hey, we can at least pray for them! Amen.

Hi Servant, well u r right bro , but mostly of all i wanted to say what i have understood of the book. no problem, n dont worry bro, wont happen again.

hey Hannah im from Panama.
Hey my granparents emigrated here bacause of the civil war as well.....
thats cool that u r learning spanish , May God bless u as well

About Plant, its awfull to hear that. certainly they were like the beatles, n all those 70s bands that were influenced by the religions of Asia ,
bottom line its their ideology not mine , I ll pray for them.

take care..

Not to tinkle on anyone's leg, but if the codes were correct, Laura Bush would have been shot out of the sky in Marine Corps One by a Russian shoulder fired missile in 2005, and seeing as she wasn't, and it's 2006, we should maybe consider that the codes are possibly either wrong, or otherwise incorrect. I know there are suprising parallels in the els codes, but we can't take everything that seems good to be the gospel truth. We have a gospel truth, and it's called the Gospel.

Alright, so some of the 'prophecies' were right, but others said things that we know are not true, and they were all els codes, devised by using the same method as the ones we conclude are right. Don't be dispensionalists, who set a date, and when it was wrong, set another, and another, and so on and so forth. If it's wrong even once, it's not divine or written by God, because as we all know, He doesn't make mistakes or mispredicitons.

Remember about the codes though:

1) Human error plays a role in finding them and

2) God knows everything, not everything in the codes makes it into the nightly news, but there's always a chance it still happened.

Maybe somebody plotted to blow her out of the sky, but didn't go through with it? I don't know, just guessin'. I'd like to see that code though. Maybe it'll happen this year, some codes have hebrew calendar years that start in one AD year and end in another. Maybe it'll never happen. But I'm still watching to see if the year and date specific codes on exodus2006.com come true or not, I won't give up on them just because of a few errors.

But there are errors, there are things that may never come true. Coincidences, etc...