QUOTE(justaservant @ Jan 14 2006, 11:21 AM)
QUOTE(God's Lamb @ Jan 13 2006, 08:44 PM)
It saddens my heart to see Israel go through all this....and the dividing up of her land.....she is so undefendable....with the giving up the West Bank...and Gaza. I was in Israel in 1986.....and it was a shock to see just about one of of three in unifrom and carring ouzi ? (gun) The people were so friendly....and they loved Americans. We traveled the whole country with a rabbi as our tour guide....that was a blast. We hit it off right off the bat....we talked a lot on OT....he moved there from New York...he was an ambulance diver in New York!

And believe me...we all had "white knuckles" at times...

I pray for Israel a lot.....she really does need our prayers....Israel is the place to watch to see how the future goes.....she's the clock to watch for events.

God Bless. marie
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My heart grieves for Israel also! They are going through a lot! But the day is coming when God will give them more land than they ever had before, but not yet; Because God has not forgotten His Own. Romans 9:6-8 says, "
But it is not as though the Word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; nor are they all children because they are Abraham's descendants, but: 'through Isaac your descendants will be named.' that is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants."
Trust God and keep watching!
justaservant
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YES AND HERE IS AN EXPLANATION OF THE LAND ISRAEL GETS IN THE FUTURE.
ISRAELS LAND NOT ISHMAELS LAND
I WROTE THIS IN JULY OF LAST YEAR 2005
I am not sure if this is the correct verse for the Gaza withdrawl, but it fits what will happen when the Israelis are forced out of the Gaza in the middle of August. I know Jeremiah 33:7-11 are last days scriptures, so im counting on Jeremiah 33:4-5 to be last days scripture as well. heres what it says:
Amplified version For thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, concerning the houses of this city and the houses of the kings of Judah which are torn down to make a defense against the (siege) mounds and before the sword: They the (besieged Jews) are coming in to fight against the chaldeans and to fill (the houses) with the dead bodies of men whom I shall slay in my anger and my wrath, for I have hidden my face (in indignation) from this city because of all their wickedness.
This might be Jerusalem in the future, but by what is happening now could it be the Gaza pullout, because of the destroying of the Israeli houses in the Gaza after the withdrawl.
If this is now there will be incredible bloodshed over this issue as said in these 2 verses. The Palestinians will have big defeats to Israel if I take these verses correctly and are for these last days.
This is parting the Israelis from their land, and it will lead eventually to WW3 as Joel 3:2 states.
This is Israels land and no other people but Israel will own it in the future, like it or not Palestinians (Arabs). The bible says the Israelis and Palestinians will live side by side in the future, but Israel will always have Jerusalem as their capital FOREVER AND EVER.
The Father of Shem (Israelis)
The Father of Ham (Blacks)
The Father of the Gentiles is Japheth (Whites)
The Father of Shem is Noah (Gen 10:1-3)
The Father of the Jews in Shem (Gen 10:1-3,21-31)
The Father of Abram is Shem (Gen 11:10-31)
God promises to make Abram a great Nation (Gen 12:1-3).
Abram is the first Hebrew (Gen 14:13) Abram means exalted Father.
Abram changed name to Abraham (Gen 17:5) Abraham means a Father of many Nations. Not only Israelis but Arabs also.
Abraham Fathered Ishmael with Hagar the handmaiden (Gen 16:1-4,11,15 This makes Abraham the Father of the Israelis as well as the Father of the Arabs. So as we see its a fight between the 2 brothers for control of the land of Israel, but the Inheritance goes to the Biological son Isaac not the illegitamate son Ishmael in the future.(Gen 17:7-13)
Isaac the Biological son of Abraham (Gen 21:1-4,12)
Ishmael Will become a Nation also (Gen 21:13-18)
Isaac Fathered Jacob (Gen 25:19-34)
Jacobs name changed to Israel (Gen 32:28, 2 Kings 17:34)
Jew comes from the tribe of Judah.
A citizen of Israel is an Israelite.
A Jew is the religion of Israel.
Covenants to Israel (5)
1-Abrahamic Covenant (Foundation of all the Covenants to Israel that which God promises unconditionally to raise a seed unto Abraham and to give him and his seed an everlasting possession) .Gen 12:1-3, 13:14-18, 15:1-21, 17:1-22.
2-Mosaic Covenant (conditions of obedience to Gods commands) Exe 19:14-18, Based on the 10 commandments Exe 20:3-17.
3-Palestinian Covenant (enlargeing the Abrahamic Covenant so Israel forever owns the land promised by God) Deu 30:1-10.
4-The Davidic Covenant (unconditional Covenant with God to David reafirming the Abrahamic Covenant and adding that the blessings would be attached to the lineage of David) 2 Sam 7:1-16, 2 Sam 23:1-22.
5-The New Covenant (unconditional Covenant God made to Israel to replace the Mosaic Covenant which the people had failed to obey) Jer 31:31-40,
God gave Israel their Nation on May 14,1948 (Jer 31:10-11, Ezek 36:24, Ezek 37:1-28, Amos 9:15, Matt 24:32, Mark 13:28 (notice in Matt and mark it literally told us that Israel would be reborn just before summer).
God says the Jews would be in control of Jerusalem in the last days. (Luke 21:24) June 5-10, 1967. Israel Never had control for 2,553 years.
And here are the bounderies of the land that Israel will inherit either through war or peace or God in the future. God says its Israels land and only Israels land. They will have every inch God promised them of this land in the future.
Egypt east of the Nile River, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, The southern part of Turkey and the Western Half of Iraq west of the Euphrates. Gen 13:14-15, Psm 105:9,11, Gen 15:18, Exe 23:31, Num 34:1-12, Josh 1:4.
ALL THIS LAND ISRAEL WILL DEFINATELY OWN IN THE FUTURE, ITS ISRAELS NOT ISHMAELS LAND.