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Tzeitel
Hi guys, as a Brit and unfortunately only across the water from Brussels, I shall be posting up to date news which I feel will be of signifant importance to us as Christians.


Phone Records To Be Saved Across EU

Wednesday December 14, 12:52 PM


BIG BROTHER WILL BE WATCHING.....

European lawmakers have voted to allow police greater access to telephone and internet data in an effort to help fight terrorism and serious crime.The measures would oblige businesses to keep data for at least six months.Information would include who people spoke to, where and when, and would apply to land telephone lines and mobile phones, text messages and the internet.

The content of messages and internet sessions will not be stored.

The vote is a major success for Britain, the current EU president, as it had pledged to try to force the measures through all the bloc's institutions before its turn at the helm ends on December 31.

Home Secretary Charles Clarke had made securing a deal on telecoms data a priority during his chairmanship of the EU's justice and home affairs council, part of the presidency.

He has argued that the information is crucial to police investigations and played a vital role in police investigations into the London and Madrid bombings.
Caneman
Thank you for bringing these updates... we don't get to hear much of the EU here in the US so anything you can post would be appreciated!!! smile.gif

In particular, I have an A/C watch out for Javier Solano. blink.gif

Blessings,

Caneman
Tzeitel
Thanks Caneman, blessing to you also

The WEU is made up of 10 member states: France, United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, Greece.

The man who presides over the WEU is the man you name, Javier (name meaning "enlightened")Solano the Secretary General. (the question is, is Javier Solano the anti-Christ and is Tony Blair the false prophet?)

Make no mistake the WEU is economically backed by the EU and is a military power. Its mouth piece is Britain (unfortunatley for me!) and its brute strength is Russia. Javier Solano and Putin have very close ties!

The whole aim of the EU and the WEU is to match and become economically and militarily stronger than the US and her allies. As many of you are probably already aware the Euro is growing in strength rapidly with many countries converting over to the Euro.

If the WEU can match or surpass the strength of the US, then the WEU will become the world force and will force Israel to accept the peace agreement. Already there are plans under foot to have a Palestinian state in place in the year 2009. Watch out for Yossi Beilin as he has close ties in the European community and believes strongly in the peace agreement. It will be interesting to see if Sharon manages to hang onto power in the next few years as I think he is a stumbling block to those who have a master plan for Israel.

With an economically depressed US government, it will be much harder for America to fight other nations battles, particularly Israels.
Caneman
CC, you are right on with the 10 member EU.... interesting thing is how I see Javior Solano worming his way in to the middle east peace process. In the end-times the A/C will:

1) The A/C will orchestrate a piece (peace) process with Israel and its Arab neighbors - you see Javier Solano laying the ground work for this in a 7 year agreement (see his latest news release and speech from the November Barcelona meeting).

2) The A/C will decide to break this agreement with Israel half way through this 7 year agreement and start war with her. Javier Solano was leader of NATO (I think, can someone confirm this?), so he has the military experience to plan this and carry it out.

Not sure about TB being the false prophet, but would like to hear your insights regarding this. I had not heard this before.

Blessings,

Caneman

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Caneman
Here it is I found it at: http://www.weu.int/

Javier Solano
December 1995 - October 1999: Secretary General of NATO
shy1
Caneman,
Have you used the Search function to look for "Solana" in the archives of the forum? There has been some really good discussion, and there are also some good links to websites that have information about current events from a prophetic standpoint, some with the stance that he could be the A/C.

One topic that really surprised me was the one with the picture of the flags--does anybody remember what that was called? Something like "Is this weird or what?" Anyway, that search would provide some good background reading for the lull time when people are off the forum and not responding fast enough. smile.gif I'm still digging back through myself and finding all kinds of stuff.

Glad to have you here on the forum--it's always great to see a new face, so to speak!
Tzeitel
QUOTE(shy1 @ Dec 15 2005, 12:43 PM)
Caneman,
Have you used the Search function to look for "Solana" in the archives of the forum?  There has been some really good discussion, and there are also some good links to websites that have information about current events from a prophetic standpoint, some with the stance that he could be the A/C. 

One topic that really surprised me was the one with the picture of the flags--does anybody remember what that was called?  Something like "Is this weird or what?"  Anyway, that search would provide some good background reading for the lull time when people are off the forum and not responding fast enough.   smile.gif   I'm still digging back through myself and finding all kinds of stuff.

Glad to have you here on the forum--it's always great to see a new face, so to speak!
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Yes you are right! Its got 6 on each flag combined to form 666. I remember that.
Marta
QUOTE(cherry chookie @ Dec 15 2005, 12:59 PM)
QUOTE(shy1 @ Dec 15 2005, 12:43 PM)
Caneman,
Have you used the Search function to look for "Solana" in the archives of the forum?  There has been some really good discussion, and there are also some good links to websites that have information about current events from a prophetic standpoint, some with the stance that he could be the A/C. 

One topic that really surprised me was the one with the picture of the flags--does anybody remember what that was called?  Something like "Is this weird or what?"  Anyway, that search would provide some good background reading for the lull time when people are off the forum and not responding fast enough.   smile.gif   I'm still digging back through myself and finding all kinds of stuff.

Glad to have you here on the forum--it's always great to see a new face, so to speak!
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Yes you are right! Its got 6 on each flag combined to form 666. I remember that.
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Here it is guys:

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=1894&hl=

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Tzeitel
Thanks Marta! biggrin.gif
wernotalone
I beleive God is speaking to each of us here individually to sound the trumpet and to be watcher on the Wall.
Skekel is a blessings with the codes...they are amazing.
I remember that picture. I also had dream posted and felt a deep erge to reveal it when I did. In the dream, of which I have never had just a voice speak and reveal one word before..and this was last year or a year and half ago...but all that was said was Spain and then I woke up. I revealed the dream this year..I don't know, maybe this was for me to warn about Salano.
GOD BLESS ALL...pray and listen...Jesus does talk to us.
Tzeitel
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Tzeitel
Biometry and electronic ID card : Big Brother is watching you

The British government wishes to mark of its seal the presidency of the European
Union: it intends to make compulsory the biometric recording information on the
population of all the Member States (cf. Drafts Conclusions of the Representatives of the Governments of the Member States on common minimum security standards for Members States' national identity cards1). During the meeting of the Justice and Home Affairs Council of the EU, which will be held on December the 1st and 2nd, the British presidency intends to impose the inclusion of two fingerprints and a R.F.ID chip in electronic ID cards.

This is an intolerable attack on fundamental human rights and freedoms : the fights
against terrorism, irregular immigration and false document traffic should not be done to the detriment of fundamental rights.

The use of new technologies allow the development of several new security systems, some of which have recourse to biometric data. These systems can identify, on real time, a person by measuring one's physical characteristics. The European project plans to insert biometric data in the new ID card (INES, secure electronic national identity card) and more precisely fingerprints. This card will combine several functionalities, such as identification and electronic signature.

The implementation of biometric measures raises fundamental issues and further
thoughts will be needed, based on analysis, expertise and relevant statistics. Even if there are currently few studies available, all of them raise several issues and confirm that it is not an infallible system2.

In fact, the reliability of biometric system is currently not guaranteed. Japanese
researchers have given the proof that real "false" fingerprints can be reproduced on latex finger. This experiment has deluded eleven of the fifteen tested biometric system3. As a consequence, a person could be registered and due to an error could be denied the access to an airport or a website ! In this hypothesis, another problem raises : who will be in charge of the identity’s evidence ? It will probably falls to the citizen. But it is hard – probably impossible - to give the evidence that you are the person that you assert to be, and that even more in a society where the citizens' identity is more and more defined by government’ standards
(driving licence, health card, birth certificate…).

There are also grounds for contestation concerning the scheduled biometric data's
medium : a card with a R.F.ID (Radio Frequency Identification). This chip, powered by the radio signal without any contact needed, allows an identity
control at any time and in every place through any medium (except metal ones) without the holder's knowing. Whereas these controls can currently be made only in certain conditions, this R.F.ID chip will make them a commonplace !


Moreover, with the radio waves' emission, there are risks of unjustified chip reading and data interceptions as well, and that regardless of the right to respect for private life and personal data protection.

Finally, as the R.F.ID chip allows tailing people even if the aim of such a system is
neither to spy on people nor to watch closely their gestures, the potential drift is a real danger. Such a system will allow to track ways of live, consumption habits, daily trips of each person…
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The electronic identity card combined with biometric recording information totally
scorns fundamental rights and freedoms, bases of our democracy. Biometry tends to establish a reified and intangible identity and one could hardly elude it. Whereas the social contract is based on the presumption of mutual reliance and on the respect of individual liberties, the ever more spread use of biometric data and the way in which it has become a feature of every day life relegate each person to a status of suspect and reinforce widely the States ascendancy over the citizens.

That is why the European Association for Human Rights (AEDH) rises up against the
total lack of democratic debate concerning this project. The association is also deeply concerned about the fact that these measures, which do not planned to establish real safeguards, adopted by the members States are contradicting with the Chart of Fundamental Rights, in particular its Article 8, and the resolution on the use of biometrics in passports, identity cards and travel documents adopted in Montreux, on September 16th (2005) by Privacy Commissioners4.
justaservant
I was just with the family down to Disney and they are already using this two finger ID verification. My wife and I had accidently traded the tickets that we were using and the person at the gate told my wife to write her name on her ticket. They already knew what had happened.
I firmly believe that this is a preview of the control that the antichrist is working for. He wants to know who would be with him and who would be against him. All those against him would be labeled terrorist and rounded up and vanish! ph34r.gif
We need to take refuge in the only sure refuge there is, Christ our Savior!
justaservant
Marta
QUOTE(justaservant @ Dec 21 2005, 01:37 PM)
I was just with the family down to Disney and they are already using this two finger ID verification. My wife and I had accidently traded the tickets that we were using and the person at the gate told my wife to write her name on her ticket.  They already knew what had happened.
I firmly believe that this is a preview of the control that the antichrist is working for.  He wants to know who would be with him and who would be against him.  All those against him would be labeled terrorist and rounded up and vanish! ph34r.gif
We need to take refuge in the only sure refuge there is, Christ our Savior!
justaservant
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Wow...but not shocking! I'll e-mail you something here about Seaworld.

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Cherry,
There was an article about all the monitoring they are doing in Europe. Seems like the EU is testing this in Europe and you guys are the guinea pigs of it all. Knowing that the U.S would freak out more about this because of the predominancy of Christians in our nation. However that is declining!

About Mr. Solana and his links with Israel and Palestine:
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Javier Solana, the High Representative of the European Common, Foreign and Security Policy, has stated that a Hamas victory in the Gaza elections could hinder EU aid to the region. The European Union is the largest donor of financial aid to the Palestinian territories, with a combined budget of over 600 million Euros annually. In last Thursday's municipal elections, Hamas gained control of three out of four major Palestinian towns formally run by the Palestinian Authority.


Here is an interesting link about Solana:

http://www.evenmore.co.uk/prophecy/antichrist.html
Marta
Chery,

Here is something else that is new, I didn't see this mentioned in the article:

Gel battery boost for radio tags

Tuesday, 20 December 2005, 11:21 GMT
By Lakshmi Sandhana

Japanese company NEC has developed a lightweight, flexible battery that is less than a millimetre thick and can be recharged in half a minute.

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The new battery technology is expected to be married to radio tags

It is called the Organic Radical Battery (ORB) and is based on a type of plastic that exists in a gel state.

The gel allows the battery to be extremely pliant, with a thickness of 300 microns.

ORBs could eventually be embedded into devices such as smart cards, wearable computers and intelligent paper.

Currently the battery, when in card form, can be recharged with a card reader device in 30 seconds.

The absence of harmful chemicals typically used in rechargeable batteries also makes it quite environmentally friendly, according to NEC.

Radio tags

The ORB has huge potential when combined with Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags - tiny microchips that hold unique identifier information attached to a small antenna.

RFID tags are now finding wide use to keep track of items in the business supply chain - from the manufacturing floor to the retail outlet.

If you can create a 'smart active label' - a thin label that broadcasts a signal as opposed to passively reflecting back energy from the reader - you could solve many of the readability problems people are struggling with now

Mark Roberti, RFID Journal
RFID tags fall into two categories - the more commonly found "passive" devices only respond to signals sent to it by a tag reader and have a shorter range.

"Active" tags on the other hand can transmit signals and can be read at greater distances but are larger and more expensive since they need a power source.

"If you can create a 'smart active label' - a thin label that broadcasts a signal as opposed to passively reflecting back energy from the reader - you could solve many of the readability problems people are struggling with now," said Mark Roberti, editor of RFID Journal.

"You could potentially put one of these labels on a case of coke in the middle of a pallet of coke and read it. That is not possible with passive tags because the energy from the reader is blocked by the metal."

Public acceptance

While active tags do offer the benefit of being read over greater distances, there are health concerns arising from questions about transmission frequency.

"With a passive tag, the transmissions are limited as the only signal comes from a transmitter/receiver and tend to be spasmodic," said Roger Lewis, editor of RFID Today.

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Power is a big issue for RFID

"The public perception for passive tags is bad enough but with an active tag, it would most likely be felt that the transmission could be potentially more continual. Plus with a power source close to the person, opinion could be against the tags.

"Most of these perceptions are erroneous but they are real public perceptions that can undermine a product.

"As an example, the Department of Trade and Industry was asked by a man in Devon that if he bought products from Tesco, if Tesco could know in which room of his house he used them? Of course this is totally wrong and few tags are used to product level, but these are just the sort of problems facing RFID.

"Active tags could be more appropriate when affixed to permanent fixtures, like shipping containers, taxis, etc; that are read frequently."

Distant track

Mr Roberti added: "There are many other potential applications, such as tracking assets over a longer read range.

"With a battery, a credit-card-sized tag might be read from 300ft. Without a battery, a tag might be read from 15ft.

"So, you could use these inexpensive battery powered labels to track wheel chairs in hospitals or tools in factories or many other assets that need to be read from farther than 15ft away."

NEC has not talked about costs at this point, but says they will continue to work on the stability and the expansion of battery life towards possible commercialisation in the future.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4545252.stm
Tzeitel
There seems to be an escalation in developing these sorts of technologies, as though there seems to be a deadline set by someone or something? ph34r.gif

I really think that those in power have set a pricetag or a hefty monatry incentive for the first company to come up with foolproof technology to enable the mark of beast to be realised. excl.gif
justaservant
I was watch a show on tv just the other day showing how these huge cargo boats get unloaded by robot cranes that know where the crates are supposed to go because they are coded with these RFID devices. They get stored in an area with those coded similarly and then when a ship comes in that is scheduled for where the crate has to go, these robot cranes go and get them and put them on the right boat.
Also trucks and buses that travel frequently on the same toll roads have similar RFID tags that record there passing. Then they just get a bill in the mail.
I don't know how big these devices are, but the idea has been around for awhile.
The ID chips that they put in pets that can be read and the owners notified are the next generation of RFID. All that is need is for the power to arrive that can force people to be marked!!
justaservant
Tzeitel
QUOTE(justaservant @ Dec 22 2005, 09:56 AM)
I was watch a show on tv just the other day showing how these huge cargo boats get unloaded by robot cranes that know where the crates are supposed to go because they are coded with these RFID devices.  They get stored in an area with those coded similarly and then when a ship comes in that is scheduled for where the crate has to go, these robot cranes go and get them and put them on the right boat.
Also trucks and buses that travel frequently on the same toll roads have similar RFID tags that record there passing.  Then they just get a bill in the mail.
I don't know how big these devices are, but the idea has been around for awhile.
The ID chips that they put in pets that can be read and the owners notified are the next generation of RFID. All that is need is for the power to arrive that can force people to be marked!!
justaservant
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.......and eventually controlled...
Gr8ful
QUOTE(wernotalone @ Dec 16 2005, 10:21 AM)
I beleive God is speaking to each of us here individually to sound the trumpet and to be watcher on the Wall.
Skekel is a blessings with the codes...they are amazing.
I remember that picture. I also had dream posted and felt a deep erge to reveal it when I did. In the dream, of which I have never had just a voice speak and reveal one word before..and this was last year or a year and half ago...but all that was said was Spain and then I woke up. I revealed the dream this year..I don't know, maybe this was for me to warn about Salano.
GOD BLESS ALL...pray and listen...Jesus does talk to us.
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Great thought on God speaking to each of us to sound an Alarm...It's kinda like God Released the Spirit of John The Baptist "A voice crying in the wilderness "Prepare You the Way of the Lord"!!! smile.gif Speaking of false prophet I actually have been watching the Pope and Upcoming Popes it would have to be someone from a religious Back Ground. And someone Lots of people follow.
Gr8ful
QUOTE(Gr8ful @ Dec 22 2005, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE(wernotalone @ Dec 16 2005, 10:21 AM)
I beleive God is speaking to each of us here individually to sound the trumpet and to be watcher on the Wall.
Skekel is a blessings with the codes...they are amazing.
I remember that picture. I also had dream posted and felt a deep erge to reveal it when I did. In the dream, of which I have never had just a voice speak and reveal one word before..and this was last year or a year and half ago...but all that was said was Spain and then I woke up. I revealed the dream this year..I don't know, maybe this was for me to warn about Salano.
GOD BLESS ALL...pray and listen...Jesus does talk to us.
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Great thought on God speaking to each of us to sound an Alarm...It's kinda like God Released the Spirit of John The Baptist "A voice crying in the wilderness "Prepare You the Way of the Lord"!!! smile.gif Speaking of false prophet I actually have been watching the Pope and Upcoming Popes it would have to be someone from a religious Back Ground. And someone Lots of people follow.
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LOL..Marta Maybe the False prophet is "Kim Clement" HEHEHE
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