Library says figures would be 'inappropriate,' action leaves just farm animals, shepherd boy
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Posted: December 7, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
Away from the manger?
Saying it would be "inappropriate" to include them, Memphis, Tenn., library officials have banned Mary, Joseph, Jesus and the wise men from a promotional nativity scene – leaving only the stable animals and a shepherd boy.
Attorneys from the Alliance Defense Fund say they are working to "educate" the officials about their action, saying the exclusion of the figurines is blatantly unconstitutional.
ADF confirmed to WND that the "nativity" scene is up at the library but includes just three palm-sized farm animals and a boy with a sheep over his shoulders.
According to a statement from ADF, the controversy arose when Brandi Chambless, a member of the music ministry at Broadmoor Memphis Church, submitted an announcement for display on the library's community shelves regarding the church's upcoming Christmas show. Library officials accepted the announcement but told Chambless that she would have to remove the "inappropriate" figures of the baby Jesus, Joseph, Mary, and the wise men from an accompanying nativity scene and limit it to farm animals alone.
"Now we've got a bunch of barnyard animals in our display. We've got a sheep, a goat, a cow," Chambless said last night on the Fox News Channel's "O'Reilly Factor." "We just think it's the most ridiculous thing."
"This is not the same as a city building a manger at city expense on city property," said Andrew Napolitano, senior judicial anlayst for Fox News. "I think the library's going to back down and let the baby Jesus and the blessed mother be there."
ADF says the community shelves have traditionally been open to groups and individuals for the display of announcements, advertisements and other items as a means of providing information to the community.
"It truly is ridiculous that we even have to discuss whether a nativity scene can be displayed at Christmas," said ADF senior legal counsel Nate Kellum. "Libraries are supposed to encourage free expression and thought. Government officials do not have the authority to pick and choose which items in a Christmas nativity scene are acceptable for display."
In a Dec. 5 letter to Memphis/Shelby County Public Library officials, Kellum explained that displays such as the one submitted by Chambless in no way violate the U.S. Constitution.
"It is blatantly unconstitutional for the government to single out speech from a church for discrimination simply because it is religious," Kellum wrote. "For this reason, the refusal to allow Broadmoor Memphis an opportunity to display the nativity scene because the display is religious is a violation of First Amendment rights."
As part of ADF's Christmas Project, the law firm says it has contacted more than 10,300 school districts nationwide this year to inform them of what is legal regarding religious expression at Christmastime.
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What's next? a fall out ban on christianity?
Full Version: Mary, Joseph, Jesus And The Wise Men Are Banned
Haven't noticed any mangers in our area...have to look....probably real hard, cause they have definetly been in small numbers over the years.But the KKK can display a big white cross in the city square...makes me sick...but we all know God will laugh.
And they call it POLITICALLY CORRECT...what a laugh, discussting...YEAH by who's standards?
Maybe they are waiting for the false Messiah to come down and fill the manger.
Your right the times sure are at hand.
We pray dear Jesus, to keep us for as long as you need us...to serve you and spread the good news. In your time LORD JESUS in all your ways...your will be done.
GOD BLESS YOU
good point..
QUOTE(nettekkie1010 @ Dec 10 2005, 04:12 PM)
Everyone needs to quit acting as if these things are a surprise. The great falling away must come, and is now come, it is written. These things should come as no surprise to anyone wearing the garment.
I see too many of those who call themselves saved fighting these things as the world does. Opening thier mouths against them, suggesting we fight against them, wanting to boycott this or that, physically fighting.
Why?
Has the kingdom you have been born into lost it's glamour for you that you have to try to take another?
Do you think you can change this world and hang on to the traditions taught of men?
Is this your world?
Is this your kingdom?
Are these your leaders?
Is any of this our concern?
Have you forgotten that this world belongs to darkness and that we look for another world to come? Where we shall live in Holy Jerusalem which is from above and not from below! Of the Spirit and not of the flesh?
We, as our Lord, are strangers and sojourners in this strange land yet many of us act as if this is thier world and thier responsibility is to fight for "good"! What a lie from the very pit!
But yet our Lord went as it was written of him, and met his death with CLOSED LIPS! He even advocated paying unlawful taxes being levied against them so that they would not offend.
Keep silence oh my brethren and fight not as this world does. Keep silence as this great falling away comes.
Are they taking christmas - so what.
Are they removing old religious landmarks - so what.
Are churches not opening on Chritsmas - so what.
Are they removing our Lord from public view - so what.
These things MUST come, they are WRITTEN.
Judas, the som of perdition, had to betray Christ.
Peter had to deny Christ.
The Jews had to have our Lord put to death.
And these things have to happen for they are written.
Remain silent and glorify your Lord. It is enough that the servant be not greater than but equal to his master.
Smoking flax shall he not put out, and a bruised reed shall he not break.
Do you who call themselves after the name understand this passage?
Do you not usderstand that our own Lord, he who died for us, went to his death as a lamb before the slaughter? How much could he have said against this or that in the world yet he remained silent on those things. And what did he say concerning this?
I have much to say and to judge of you, but he that sent me is true.
Render unto Ceaser that which is Cesars.
Let him have his kingdom and his laws - that is not our concern.
Our work here shoud be to spread the gospel that Christ indeed came in the flesh and died for all men, and to look for his soon return.
Look and watch but be silent.
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I see too many of those who call themselves saved fighting these things as the world does. Opening thier mouths against them, suggesting we fight against them, wanting to boycott this or that, physically fighting.
Why?
Has the kingdom you have been born into lost it's glamour for you that you have to try to take another?
Do you think you can change this world and hang on to the traditions taught of men?
Is this your world?
Is this your kingdom?
Are these your leaders?
Is any of this our concern?
Have you forgotten that this world belongs to darkness and that we look for another world to come? Where we shall live in Holy Jerusalem which is from above and not from below! Of the Spirit and not of the flesh?
We, as our Lord, are strangers and sojourners in this strange land yet many of us act as if this is thier world and thier responsibility is to fight for "good"! What a lie from the very pit!
But yet our Lord went as it was written of him, and met his death with CLOSED LIPS! He even advocated paying unlawful taxes being levied against them so that they would not offend.
Keep silence oh my brethren and fight not as this world does. Keep silence as this great falling away comes.
Are they taking christmas - so what.
Are they removing old religious landmarks - so what.
Are churches not opening on Chritsmas - so what.
Are they removing our Lord from public view - so what.
These things MUST come, they are WRITTEN.
Judas, the som of perdition, had to betray Christ.
Peter had to deny Christ.
The Jews had to have our Lord put to death.
And these things have to happen for they are written.
Remain silent and glorify your Lord. It is enough that the servant be not greater than but equal to his master.
Smoking flax shall he not put out, and a bruised reed shall he not break.
Do you who call themselves after the name understand this passage?
Do you not usderstand that our own Lord, he who died for us, went to his death as a lamb before the slaughter? How much could he have said against this or that in the world yet he remained silent on those things. And what did he say concerning this?
I have much to say and to judge of you, but he that sent me is true.
Render unto Ceaser that which is Cesars.
Let him have his kingdom and his laws - that is not our concern.
Our work here shoud be to spread the gospel that Christ indeed came in the flesh and died for all men, and to look for his soon return.
Look and watch but be silent.
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I think we should all print this and read it again and again in the days to come.
Let peace rule in your hearts
Cornelius
QUOTE(nettekkie1010 @ Dec 10 2005, 09:12 AM)
Everyone needs to quit acting as if these things are a surprise. The great falling away must come, and is now come, it is written. These things should come as no surprise to anyone wearing the garment.
I see too many of those who call themselves saved fighting these things as the world does. Opening thier mouths against them, suggesting we fight against them, wanting to boycott this or that, physically fighting.
Why?
Has the kingdom you have been born into lost it's glamour for you that you have to try to take another?
Do you think you can change this world and hang on to the traditions taught of men?
Is this your world?
Is this your kingdom?
Are these your leaders?
Is any of this our concern?
Have you forgotten that this world belongs to darkness and that we look for another world to come? Where we shall live in Holy Jerusalem which is from above and not from below! Of the Spirit and not of the flesh?
We, as our Lord, are strangers and sojourners in this strange land yet many of us act as if this is thier world and thier responsibility is to fight for "good"! What a lie from the very pit!
But yet our Lord went as it was written of him, and met his death with CLOSED LIPS! He even advocated paying unlawful taxes being levied against them so that they would not offend.
Keep silence oh my brethren and fight not as this world does. Keep silence as this great falling away comes.
Are they taking christmas - so what.
Are they removing old religious landmarks - so what.
Are churches not opening on Chritsmas - so what.
Are they removing our Lord from public view - so what.
These things MUST come, they are WRITTEN.
Judas, the som of perdition, had to betray Christ.
Peter had to deny Christ.
The Jews had to have our Lord put to death.
And these things have to happen for they are written.
Remain silent and glorify your Lord. It is enough that the servant be not greater than but equal to his master.
Smoking flax shall he not put out, and a bruised reed shall he not break.
Do you who call themselves after the name understand this passage?
Do you not usderstand that our own Lord, he who died for us, went to his death as a lamb before the slaughter? How much could he have said against this or that in the world yet he remained silent on those things. And what did he say concerning this?
I have much to say and to judge of you, but he that sent me is true.
Render unto Ceaser that which is Cesars.
Let him have his kingdom and his laws - that is not our concern.
Our work here shoud be to spread the gospel that Christ indeed came in the flesh and died for all men, and to look for his soon return.
Look and watch but be silent.
[right][snapback]27829[/snapback][/right]
I see too many of those who call themselves saved fighting these things as the world does. Opening thier mouths against them, suggesting we fight against them, wanting to boycott this or that, physically fighting.
Why?
Has the kingdom you have been born into lost it's glamour for you that you have to try to take another?
Do you think you can change this world and hang on to the traditions taught of men?
Is this your world?
Is this your kingdom?
Are these your leaders?
Is any of this our concern?
Have you forgotten that this world belongs to darkness and that we look for another world to come? Where we shall live in Holy Jerusalem which is from above and not from below! Of the Spirit and not of the flesh?
We, as our Lord, are strangers and sojourners in this strange land yet many of us act as if this is thier world and thier responsibility is to fight for "good"! What a lie from the very pit!
But yet our Lord went as it was written of him, and met his death with CLOSED LIPS! He even advocated paying unlawful taxes being levied against them so that they would not offend.
Keep silence oh my brethren and fight not as this world does. Keep silence as this great falling away comes.
Are they taking christmas - so what.
Are they removing old religious landmarks - so what.
Are churches not opening on Chritsmas - so what.
Are they removing our Lord from public view - so what.
These things MUST come, they are WRITTEN.
Judas, the som of perdition, had to betray Christ.
Peter had to deny Christ.
The Jews had to have our Lord put to death.
And these things have to happen for they are written.
Remain silent and glorify your Lord. It is enough that the servant be not greater than but equal to his master.
Smoking flax shall he not put out, and a bruised reed shall he not break.
Do you who call themselves after the name understand this passage?
Do you not usderstand that our own Lord, he who died for us, went to his death as a lamb before the slaughter? How much could he have said against this or that in the world yet he remained silent on those things. And what did he say concerning this?
I have much to say and to judge of you, but he that sent me is true.
Render unto Ceaser that which is Cesars.
Let him have his kingdom and his laws - that is not our concern.
Our work here shoud be to spread the gospel that Christ indeed came in the flesh and died for all men, and to look for his soon return.
Look and watch but be silent.
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Mat 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Joh 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 2:1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
1Co 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Co 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
1Co 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
1Co 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
1Co 3:23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2Co 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
2Co 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
2Co 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
2Co 4:8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
2Co 4:9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
2Co 4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
2Co 4:11 For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
2Co 4:12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
A witness.....such a cloud of witness!!!
Go Get Some Souls!!!!!! The time is short!!!!!
Do not be distracted!!!! The enemy is setting snares every where!!!!
Singleness of purpose!!!! There is no time to waste!!!!
If you have fallen.....Get back Up!!!!!
For as much evil that is seen, how much greater is the Glory!!!!!!!
Do not be distracted..this is his plan.
Do all you have been called to do..This is His Plan!!!!!!
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