SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Carrying rosary beads and cameras, the faithful have been coming in a steady stream to a church on the outskirts of Sacramento for a glimpse of what some are calling a miracle: A statue of the Virgin Mary they say has begun crying a substance that looks like blood.


It was first noticed more than a week ago, when a priest at the Vietnamese Catholic Martyrs Church spotted a stain on the statue's face and wiped it away. Before Mass on Nov. 20, people again noticed a reddish substance near the eyes of the white concrete statue outside the small church, said Ky Truong, 56, a parishioner.

Since then, Truong said he has been at the church day and night, so emotional he can't even work. He believes the tears are a sign.

"There's a big event in the future — earthquake, flood, a disease," Truong said. "We're very sad."

On Saturday, tables in front of the fenced-in statue were jammed with potted plants, bouquets of roses and candles. Some people prayed silently, while others sang hymns and hugged their children. An elderly woman in a wheelchair wept near the front of the crowd.

A red trail could be seen from the side of the statue's left eye to about halfway down the robe of concrete.

"I think that it's incredible. It's a miracle. Why is she doing it? Is it something bothering her?" asked Maria Vasquez, 35, who drove with her parents and three children from Stockton, about 50 miles south of Sacramento.

Thousands of such incidents are reported around the world each year, though many turn out to be hoaxes or natural phenomena.

The Diocese of Sacramento has so far not commented on the statue, and the two priests affiliated with the church did not return a telephone message Saturday.

The Rev. James Murphy, deacon of the diocese's mother church, the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, said church leaders are always skeptical at first.

"For people individually seeing things through the eyes of faith, something like this can be meaningful. As for whether it is supernatural or a miracle, normally these incidences are not. Miracles are possible, of course," Murphy said. "The bishop is just waiting and seeing what happens. They will be moving very slowly."

But seeing the statue in person left no doubt for Martin Operario, 60, who drove about 100 miles from Hayward. He took photos to show to family and friends.

"I don't know how to express what I'm feeling," Operario said. "Since religion is the mother of believing, then I believe."

Nuns Anna Bui and Rosa Hoang, members of the Salesian Sisters of San Francisco, also made the trek Saturday. Whether the weeping statue is declared a miracle or not, they said, it is already doing good by awakening people to the faith and reminding them to pray.

"It's a call for us to change ourselves, to love one another," Hoang said.

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The response to this, whether explainable or not, are the same wonderings we are having righ ton this forum. Does it mean we are coming to a time of the final days?

And I am thrown back to the days of practicing law when I can see both sides of the issue because I have been trained to do that under extreme pressure.

When Isreal was at the Jordon and Moses was up on the mountain "for so long" they built a statue to the God that brought them out of Egypt. It was not Baal they worshiped, thought the statue was pagan in nature. They danced and sang out the name of Jehovah who had rescued them and what they got for it was three thousand killed immediately and the rest were sent away until they died in the desert.

But then I am reminded of the apostles who came to Jesus and said there was a man baptising people and he was not one of them and Jesus said, let him go, for those who are not against us are for us.

There you have it. The wishy washy opinion of a lawyer trying to see the truth and yet love those who may see thing another way....

leia

I'd be careful about this. The Virgin Mary is an idol, she's dead so obviously this isn't a work of her doing. It's probably the Devil trying to strengthen the false ideas of the Catholics so he can take them down more easily.

I agree, its not of God.We have to keep our eyes on Jesus, The devils out to kill and destroy and he will do all kinds of miracles in the name of Mary or man if he can. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life,and no man cometh to the Father but through Me John,14 verce 6

It seems that many of your responses are anti-Catholic. I have seen this type of attitude many many times and it does not serve God, nor is it a Christian attitude. The topic is about a statue crying. It very well may be fake, most likely is. So kindly respond about the topic with out continually bringing in your anti-Catholic views. We are all Christians here so lets try building each other up instead of tearing each other apart.

God Bless,
Kansas Dad

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It seems that many of your responses are anti-Catholic. I have seen this type of attitude many many times and it does not serve God, nor is it a Christian attitude. The topic is about a statue crying. It very well may be fake, most likely is. So kindly respond about the topic with out continually bringing in your anti-Catholic views. We are all Christians here so lets try building each other up instead of tearing each other apart.

God Bless,
Kansas Dad
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Mary is very, very, very, very, very dead, and to pray to her is an abomination

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Maybe I missed it Jeep, but I didn't see anywhere in the article where it stated that people were praying to the statue, only flocking to see the "miracle"

Did I miss something?

I don't recall saying anything anti-Catholic up until now but...

I'm sorry that my views are anti-Catholic, but I still am only speaking the truth. I feel bad if I'm mean about it, but it's still true. Mary's an idol and the RCC is steeped in man-made traditions and rituals. Not to say that you can't be a good person if you're a Catholic, Catholics are still Christians, they just need to take a step back and look at their particular traditions and practices and what the word of God says and realise that certain things about them are wrong and that they need to stop doing them and get out of the RCC.

I'll try to be nicer about it from now on though.

I am not anti-Catholic. I am pro-God. Some of what Catholics do inside the church and outside of the church is specifically forbidden in scripture.

I don't think that God would manifest a miracle that would make a statue cry, bleed, blink, talk, itch, or anything else. Do you????

Whenever God does do something- it glorifies Him. How is HE being worshipped when the object of the gaze is a Mary???

To my mind all the miracles of God come through the living. Not stone.

Kansasdad, even if the people showing up at this statue are sincere, they are sincerely in error. I don't get the impression that any one is being anticatholic just for the sake of being anticatholic, they just find crying statues, rosaries, and Mariolatry repugnant in light of Scripture. There is a reason its called protestantism. But as one who's been studying Roman Catholicism for the better part of a year, I think I know where you are coming from. Christ didn't save us based on our doctrine, and a devout Catholic is a believer in Christ and doesn't see himself the quasi-pagan that Protestants make him out to be. I'm often frustrated because Catholicism is such a hopeless mix of truth and man-made traditions, which are in truth pagan in origin and anti-Scriptural. I haven't observed anybody being un-Christian in their posts, as you suggest. In fact, it could be argued that it would be un-Christian not to be critical - and by critical I don't mean negative - of Roman Catholicism. This of course applies to Protestantism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and any other Christian group as well. When one says 'un-Christian' in such a blanket statement it is almost always a generalization and not very helpful. Then again I'm probably nit-picking unnecessarily myself, may God grant me grace!

When Anti-Christ brings fire out of the sky and does miracles are people gonna flock to see them too? God help them ...You sister Benita

2Co 5:8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

I suppose you mean she is very dead as respecting this world. I know it is not a good thing to call up the dead. Look what happened to Saul. He lost his kingdom and he and his son were killed in the battle next day.

Why do you think that was? Any ideas?

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Mary is very, very, very, very, very dead, and to pray to her is an abomination

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Men!

Didn't this happen sometime back in India? There was a statue of.....ah I can't remember. Anyway, the found out that there was some type of moisture condensating and a crack and then it was discredited.

leia

Hello everyone!!!
This happened in a Catholic
Veitnamese church in Brisbane Australia Approx. one yea

God bless!!

Greetings all:

Being one from Sacramento where this supposed miracle is taking place, I can say that this has been all over the local news as of late. As for the "miracle", I'm sorry but I say it with a disdain and a sense of wonder of how can anyone think that this is from God? Oh wait, I can see it now. Sacramento is spanish for "sacrament" maybe Mary is telling us that we are truly an blessed sacrament? Yes, I'm being cynical, the holidays have a nasty tendency to do that to me. Anyways, I do hope that this will go away soon.

Sincerely yours,

Wendy

Wendy
I heard they are doing a DNA on the "blood" to see if it is real. I know it will not show up in our newpapers here but please let us know what the dna shows. I think it is the paint from the eyes running down the statue face.
Kim

I don't know what to think. We are to beleive by Faith not sight.
But I surely don't like belittling of Mary. I can imagine that she probably cried tears of blood too for her son.
Can any mother say that would not be a basket case seeing your son nailed upon a cross taking the sins of the world upon him?
I would and have.... and havesurrendered all to my LORD JESUS. He's working, touching hearts in many ways...if this be of GOD...I say let it be. If it brings people to the foot of Christ Jesus...then it is his will.
Some people say the Passion of Christ movie has brought them to God. So that is by sight not by Faith is it not?
But as we all know it is a daily devotion...and a narrow walk...A RUN to him and not a walk or run away from him...It means a way of life and a change for the better of us all...for without Jesus we are LOST.
PRAISE JESUS,
Nothing new under the son...his will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Question, is adultry an abomination, is Homosexuality an abomination, is Pride an abomination, is spreading gossip an abomination, interesting word you chose "abomination"

pssst, hey quess what, I have never prayed to Mary in my entire life.

God Bless,
Kansas Dad

Do you love your mother?

I DO.

I don't think anyone is "belittling" Mary. We're just in a topic
where Christians and Catholics differ. I caught in this thread "we're on the same team." We're not in the worship of Mary, idolatry or a "miracle" happening to a statue. Miracles happen every day and you will see them if you believe in them.

If you believe that a crying statue is going to bring people closer to God then think again.
1. Non-believers think that a crying statue is non-sense
2. Atheist can care less.
3. Catholics will pray to the statue.
4. Christians MAY go glance but then what? pray to it? If so then they were never Christians.

what does this have to do with a crying statue?
enlighten me

If #3 is correct then they are not practicing the Catholic Faith. And #4 applies to all Christians including christians of the Catholic faith.

You may be right.
I used to be catholic but unfortunately i don't know anything about them.
Perhaps we weren't practicing the "real" Catholic way.
We used kneel to pray and coincidently there were statues in front of us.
Our whole town was lost up North. Oh and when i moved here to the South...i went to a Catholic church here that was lost too.

Is that the statue? I know, I know, but seeing a bunch of people kneeling I have to keep reminding myself.

I hope it brings someone to Christ, even if it is explainable.

You know, poor Appy tried to point out where the face of Jesus was in the tree...but I couldn't see it no matter how hard I tried...some of see things and some can't for some reason.

Hope it is not just stubberness.

leia

What did Jesus say to James?

When he looked down to his brother from the cross?

Comfort your mother I beleive that is what he meant. No I don't beleive in kneeling down to a statue of Mary and praying. But I do beleive in the Ten Commandments.

Honor your mother and father.

Jesus is the way and Truth, but to deny that Mary had anything to do with raising him and being a loving mother is hypocracy to me. I mean something is amiss when she isn't recognised as haveing a part in the growth of our Savior.
She was Blessed in deed. She was chosen because she was favored in God's eye.
She was a Virgin,,,and had her son a Virgin.

Was she sinless? This I do not know...for God created man and woman in his Image in his Image he created them. Does it state in the Bible that she was sinless...no it says BLESSED.

Are woman the weaker sex? Yes I beleive we are. And therefore we feel comforted in the protection of our husbands... of course. The man is the head of the HOUSE and the provider. I think men have lost that status now a days. Women started working outside their homes and stopped staying at home with
their children.
I think this is has left a void in the hearts of man, because he is to be the spiritual leader and head of household. Woman are to submit to their husbands...and be a helpmate. Husbands are to love their wives, and woman love their husbands.
Unfortunately, our priorities kinda of moved to keeping up with the Jones. Having material things to fill in that void and also with prices sky-rocketing with supply and demand it then forced the woman to work outside the home...just to pay the rent. Somewhere our priorities became more focused on things instead of family, entertainment instead of reflection and honoring the family unit.

I think the demostration of Mary crying tears of Blood is very symbolic, regardless of whether a hox or an ambomination...is still saying WHAT?
She is crying for her family who have lost touch with her son...and the family unit that is continuelly headed in the wrong direction...just my opionion...not going bow down and worship a statue though.

opionion....hehe ONION LAYERED....layers coming off...RENEWED IN CHRIST JESUS LET US ALL BE STILL AND KNOW HE IS GOD

I am catholic and I am not sure what we are doing that is so wrong? I believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I believe Mary was the virgin mother of God. And I believe the statue in the picture is real or not it is a beautiful sight.

Know what is true in your heart.

John 2:5
His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do [it].

He never said to worship Mary.
He never said to pray to Mary.
He never said to build a religion around Mary.

If anyone takes this as anti catholic I am gonna be so mad.....

but I have a question out of pure ignorance.

Catholics must have statues of Jesus. Do the statues of Jesus ever weep?

Just wondering.

leia

Leai,
Yes I do think there are some stories about tears of Jesus on his statues or hands bleeding.

I look at the symbolic way of looking at it....If one turns to stone that if they come to Jesus, his tears will wash away their sins and hurt..

Leai....whatdayathink?

I wish I knew...I take it all in and hope that everything goes to the glory of God, but I have seen so many godly people used and ALSO some people I would have to look up at God with twisted brow and constranation.

I know He can use it all if He wants to. Oh, I know what I have accepted as basic correct and uncorrect worship, although I tweek that yearly with holidays and everything else that comes my way...and I know if I was asked for my opinion on bowing to statues I would have to give it...I have thrown more than one away that well meaning folks have given me for my garden and such. But I know He can use anything he wants to and I just hope He does.

I know I would not go there to see it. No animosity except that I will be so mad for the Catholics if it comes out that someone deliberatly is making a fool of them...I just don't bow to anyone but my Creator.

My step mother is from the Philipenes and my dad just put in a mary statue for her in the backyard. In California, they take those old clawfoot bathtubs, paint the inside blue or pink, stand it up longways and sink about a third of it in the ground for a background to the shrine for her, then they; place the Mary statue inside the shrine. Those of us who are not Catholic see them so much there we just refer to them as the Mary in the bathtub. I love my step mother and she loves me. I would not be able to make her see any different than she does and so I don't try anymore. But I don't go out of my way to tell her, "by the way" each time I am there.

leia

I know my sister-in-law prays for sunshine by placing the Virgin Mary outside for family gatherings. And I also heard her say something about praying to a saint about something.
Not meaning to change the subject but Benny Hinn of TBN just blew me away...talking about the Schedrin and something about them building an ARC...what a crock of do do.

At every mass the congregation states it profession of Faith. A Faith built around Mary is never professed, or taught. Is anyone interested in reading what the Catholic profession of faith is?

He was not relying on God. The word says someplace not to invoke necromancy.

yes

You beat me to it! I'll 2nd that

running late tonight..will try to get it posted tomorrow

God Bless,
Kansas Dad

I'm intersted too. But what about the sinner's prayer......that would be your ultimate salvation and ticket into heaven. Not a baptism with a sprinkling of water when you are newly born. That doesn't get you into heaven. Just my two cents. I'm not Catholic bashing........but 'Ye Must Be Born Again.......in the Spirit...not Flesh'.

Your thoughts?

I can't wait! You know, I have never heard of a forumactually interested in hearing from other members like this....it is excieting. Now, perhaps we can really ask questions that are from full knowledge! I think getting SEVERAL religions in one room to calmly share ideas is so excellent!!!!

I don't think any one has all the answers...more likely a hybrid is more correct, but there aren't many churches to go to like that. Even "nondenominational" I have found really aren't very.

I LOVE TRUTH FINDING!!!!!!


Real study is so great. Cant wait!


leia

Me either!!!

LOL..Liea I love it!! "The Church of the Free Hybrids" Just think of all the cool accents, An Alabama Girl, A Kentucky Girl, a Kansas Dad, Canadian, An Indiana Hoosier, and Great Britain ...sooo nice..LOL

Actually I'm a texan...so I'd have to put in a little slang...say 'fixin'!!!!!!

The antichrist is fixin to be here ya'll!

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No judgements.........we are all adults here. I'm just curious....it's all love, we are all followers of Christ. We are Christians correct...Amen?

Now somebody pass the offering plate and let all denominations come together and hold hands.

That's what I like about this forum....No Catholic section...no Pentacostal Section...no Baptist....no Methodist.

I said 'AMEN'???????

Brothers and sisters here...

First of all let me say that I'm relatively new to this site and that I am so thankful that God led me here.

What I am now saying is done so in meekness of spirit and wrapped in prayer...but it was impressed on my heart and I'm trusting God that it will bear fruit as He sees fit...and in saying this I hope not to hurt a one of you for whom He died...but the press on my spirit is such that I cannot NOT do it...

Matthew 18 tells us about how the greatest ones in Heaven are those who have a child's heart to the things of God and how we as believers should take care how we deal with others for whom He would be dying. He tells us of the lost sheep which many take to represent the sinner who is lost. But when taken within the context of the chapter itself, it shows God's love and concern for those who were within the fold but for whatever reason no longer are...a Shepherd's heart to bring him/her lovingly into the fold. The chapter (which pours over with the love and caring of the Father) tells us at one point (this is the Amplified Version)-


14) "Just so it is not the will of My Father Who is in Heaven that one of these little ones should be lost and perish.
15) If your brother wrongs you, go and show him his fault, between you and him privately. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother.
16) But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two others, so that every work may be confirmed and upheld by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
17) If he pays no attention to them (refusing to listen and obey), tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a pagan and a tax collector (Lev 19:17; Deut 19:15)." (Matt 18:14-17).

This doesn't mean that we should draw back from what the Bible directs us to do in sharing truth to others...but that we should take care in how we do so. Satan looks for ways enough to tear the Church apart...you know the old saying- Divide and conquer- I believe he tries to do this today...not only hurting those who may be young in the Lord...but even others who might visit the site here... who might be open to the truths of the Gospel but upon reading what has been shared here, might turn away from the things of God...pass away... and go to Hell!!! Let us hold to Paul's example in Romans 14...sharing truth without reservation but with the heart of Christ seeing the souls who could be effected by the way we share those truths in Him...


As I said earlier, I mean no offense in sharing what I have...I just know that I HAD to obey and speak what He placed in my heart. And I pray that as my brothers and sisters who also know what it means when He does the same in your walk with HIM, that you will please receive what was shared here in the spirit in which it was given...one of meekness, deferring to those who have been here longer and are older in the Lord but knowing that He MUST be Lord in all things...thank you.

Love in Him!!!
selene

Selene, my dear sister in the Lord, you know I love you and all I can say is AMEN sister!! You said a mouthful

Amen she sure did! Selene is a blessing to this forum.....

Faithful Servant.

I am so blessed to have been brought to this site and to have the privilege of knowing you all...my brothers and sisters in Him...and I praise God everyday for the love and fellowship you have brought into my life. I can never thank the Lord enough for His love and caring for me and for being blessed in knowing you all!!! ALL PRAISE TO HIM... FOR HE IS GOOD...HIS MERCY IS ETERNAL...AND HIS TRUTH ENDURES FOREVER!!!!! (PSALMS 100:5)

All the Cathedrals in Europe were built to honor Mary, not Jesus.

The stained-glass-windows in said cathedrals show a picture of AN ADULT Mary, with a little boy (A LITTLE BOY) jesus, and the masses of people shouting (in Latin), "O' Mary!, Save us!".

There are 100 prayers said to Mary for every one prayer said to Jesus.

There are 100 shrines to mary for every one shrine to jesus.

European catholics love mary 100 times more than they love jesus.

As per the Council of Trent and Vatican 2, there are 125 anathemas against people like me, who don't believe every one of the Catholic doctrines, such as Transubstantiation, Confession to a Catholic Priest, Catholic baptism, Catholic Baptism is required to have any hope of salvation from sin, The RCC is the only true Church, The RCC claims dominion over all souls and GOODS, and on and on


For centuries, the RCC wouldn't let any of us have a Bible in our vernacular language; the RCC didn't want us to know what the bible said; because the catholic doctrines contradict the Biblical way of salvation from our sins.

When the printing press was invented, all the presses in Europe were working day and night printing BIBLES.
EXCEPT one press, The Vatican Press, which printed every kind of publication EXCEPT the Bible.

The Vatican burned every Bible, Bible Translator, and Bible distributor that they could find, 400 years ago. The RCC didn't want me to have a Bible. The RCC didn't want me to know Jesus.

Why did the Vatican stop burning Bibles and Bible Translators? The Monarchs and armies of Europe forced the Popes to stop the burning. Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The RCC claims that the Death of Christ is not an adequate sacrifice to save us from our sins. To His Death, we must add the sufferings and good works of jesus, the Apostles, Mary, the Catholic saints, myself,
If I dis-agree with this, the Pope has anathematized me, 400 years ago in the Council of Trent. And every Pope since then has endorsed the Council of Trent.

Vatican 2 endorses every anathema in the Council of Trent.

Anathematized is "Ex-communicated from the only true (RCC) church and damned to Everlasting Hell".

I can go on and on and on.

The Popes are dennis-manning-bashers.
There's no need for you to worry if I'm a Catholic-basher. The Popes crossed that Line 400 years before i was born. And they're still bashing me.

Let the Popes publicly abandon and renounce their Council of Trent and Vatican 2 anathemas. I need some relief!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Bible tells me to: Love the sinner and hate the sin.


The pope is an un-repentant sinner.
I'm a repentant sinner (I'm a Saint, a [Biblical] Priest).

The pope claims that he is the Vicar and mouth-piece of God on this earth.
What about the prophecies, visions, dreams, that God promised to our "old men, your sons and daughters, etc"?
Apparently, Joel didn't know about the coming popes.

Keep in mind:
The pope is not WORSE than Hitler, Clinton, Bush, me, you, etc
The pope is just a lost sinner, in need of a Savior.

dennis manning

Profession of Faith
With firm faith, I believe and profess everything
that is contained in the symbol of faith, namely:

I believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is seen and unseen. I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.

I acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.

I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

This is professed every single week at mass by all the congregation. It is the very core of the Catholic belief.
God Bless,
Kansas Dad

ps. I will post more on this, but really short on time today.

That is what we said in the Lutheran church too. I believe in one Holy Catholic church. That never made sense to me. For some reason they now changed it to Holy Christian church. I like that better. I am not into Catholic bashing. I just don't understand all the rituals. I also don't understand all the Lutheranism either. When I went to the Lutheran church and someone would see me they would say oh there is my fellow Lutheran. I didn't like that I just wanted to be called a christian-Jesus follower. I know the Lutheran church started from the reformation from Martin Luther,but what I have read on him he had problems too, wanting to get rid of Jews was and still is a big problem with me.

Please help me understand why someone who goes for confessions and
have sinned, they tell them to say 10 Hail Mary's.

What is Mary going to do? It is all about Jesus isn't it. Doesn't Jesus go to our
Father. Isn't He the intercessor for us. Please help me out.

I also went to a neighbouring church and what did bother me was that the pastor's wife told me that this one lady is not a christian but a Catholic.
That bothered me all the way home. Aren't Catholics christian I kept telling myself.

Some have told me that Catholicism is like a cult.
They said watch out for any ism. That's the wrong way to go.

What are your thoughts. I believe there are christians in any denomination.
True christians who want to follow our Lord and Saviour to the letter.

I keep wondering if God is happy with all of our denominations. I pray
for unity and I am sending this message with the kindest regards.
I am just trying to learn from my fellow believers.

Please take this with only a heart to learn,not a heart to criticize. I am not into that!!
God bless you

I can answer one of your questions quickly. In the profession of faith the word catholic with a small c. The word catholic means universal. So by saying one catholic church you are saying one universal christian church.

Thanks for your questions, I am glad you have asked. I will respond more later

God Bless,
K.D.