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Is Obama the American Messiah or an antichrist percursor? ... or is he .... a Christian?

Obama: Harbinger of the Anti-Christ




Hal Lindsey, best known as the author of "Late Great Planet Earth" once speculated that "the decade of the 1980's could very well be the last decade of history as we know it." Yet here we are, twenty years later so it's not as if Lindsey has a particularly good record on making predictions. Yet that isn't stopping him from warning that with Barack Obama running for president and generating excitement in places like Berlin, Germany, it can only mean one thing: the Anti-Christ is coming

America has never faced so many different crises at the same time in living memory. The war with al-Qaida and Islamic terror, the Iran crisis, Afghanistan, nuclear proliferation, the rising price of oil, the falling dollar, enemy acronyms like OPEC, NAM, OIC, U.N. ... Obama is correct in saying that the world is ready for someone like him – a messiah-like figure, charismatic and glib and seemingly holding all the answers to all the world's questions.

And the Bible says that such a leader will soon make his appearance on the scene. It won't be Barack Obama, but Obama's world tour provided a foretaste of the reception he can expect to receive.

He will probably also stand in some European capital, addressing the people of the world and telling them that he is the one that they have been waiting for. And he can expect as wildly enthusiastic a greeting as Obama got in Berlin.

The Bible calls that leader the Antichrist. And it seems apparent that the world is now ready to make his acquaintance.

The idea that Obama may not be the actual Anti-Christ but sure has a lot in common with him seems to be spreading among right-wing activists, as Sarah Poser recently reported:

On Friday, the day after Obama's Berlin speech, the AFA Report's host, Fred Jackson, made note of the "messianic tone" of the speech, then quickly denied that he believes Obama is messianic. Ed Vitagliano, one of the program's roundtable guests, chimed in, "I don't think he's the Antichrist, but there is a spirit of Antichrist at work in the West in a very strong and open way that is leading people to want to solve their problems and have a desire to have their lives improved without Christ. That's what the spirit of Antichrist does, it denies Christ." In other words, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just like the Antichrist.

But apparently John McCain's campaign hasn't yet gotten on board with the messaging, since they just released their latest typically informative, fact-based, and classy ad suggesting instead that Obama sees himself as the Messiah:

http://www.youtube.com/v/mopkn0lPzM8&hl=en&fs=1

see the video !

Is Barak Obama the new American Messiah ? Is he, the One? ... or is he the ...

click and scroll down ...


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/2008/08/obama_harbinger.html
voice

AntiChrist or the Messiah?

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all

http://www.anti-christ.com/?p=25&cp=90



http://www.anti-christ.com/?p=25&cp=90

Many have stated that Barack Hussein Obama is the AntiChrist

He wishes to be leader of the most powerful nation on the planet.

Though he has not had decades upon decades of his family in power, his sudden rise in prominence has opened a discussion on the potential of him being the AntiChrist.

It now appears that John McCain has now called Obama the AntiChrist as well.

The One


http://www.youtube.com/v/mopkn0lPzM8&hl=en&fs=1
voice
Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?

No Way in Hell





In some ways it's not surprising that pro-conservative FOX news anchor Glenn Beck brought up the notion, and jokingly, that 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama could be the antichrist !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4. .




After all, it's his job to skewer the left, and most people understand that. What is surprising, however, is that there is actually a group of people who do believe that Obama is the living incarnation of Satan.

Predating the FOX segment and the recent Reverend Wright sermon scandal, Google's CustomizeGoogle application has recorded more than 300,000 search hits for the keywords "Obama" and "antichrist." A quick tour of many of these sites reveals a fairly consistent set of six theories as to why many people believe it. However, a closer look into them exposes a hodgepodge mix of rumor, religious theory, and just plain unfounded superstition.

Theory #1: Cult-like following

Obama is criticized for frequently speaking the word "hope," to large crowds of proud supporters who chant his name and cheer wildly to show their support. He has been compared to a "savior" for the country, and that word is one that is usually reserved for Christianity. Additionally, although speaking about "change," Obama has said little about his plans if he were to be elected, adding further weight to the belief that he has supernatural powers of persuasion.


close window Counterpoints: Many Presidential hopefuls have used "time for a change" and other positive motivators as their campaign slogans and ideologies. To name a few: former Presidents Bill S. Clinton ("It's time to change, America"), Jimmy Carter ("A leader for a change"), and Dwight D. Eisenhower ("Peace and Prosperity"). Additionally, many past Presidential figures like John F. Kennedy could also be accused of having a cult-like following. Some could argue that Hillary Clinton also has cult-like following among college-aged females, judging by rally footage alone. Further, which candidates in this presidential election to date have really outlined exactly what they will be doing, besides Clinton's proposed National health care plan?

Does that automatically make a relatively silent McCain an antichrist contender, too?


Theory #2: Muslim surname that sounds like Osama Bin Laden

Obama's name is indeed of Muslim roots, given to him by his father, and is one letter off from Osama bin Laden, America's most wanted Muslim terrorist. Because of this connection, it is assumed that like Bin Laden, he will wreak terror upon the U.S. if elected President.

Counterpoints: While Obama indeed has a Muslim last name, this alone does not make him a terrorist. In fact, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations there are roughly 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide, of which terrorists are a small fraction. Comparing Obama to Osama simply because of similar last names points less to behavioral similarities and more to fear of a culture that began with the events of 9/11 that were brought about by a select few extremists of that faith. Obama himself refutes many of these claims.

Theory #3: Meteoric rise

Obama seemed to come out of nowhere and with little political experience is now running for President, and he's gaining popular momentum that could get him elected.

Counterpoints: Obama has been in politics for 12 years. Arnold Schwarzenegger was once a thick-accented action-hero actor and similarly, "out of nowhere" became the governor of California. For the record, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became president. The real issue at stake is whether we years is enough political experience to tackle unique problems that may come up during the course of his presidency, if elected.

Theory #4: Nostradamus prediction

Nostradamus predicted that the world would come to an end at the hands of someone named "Mabus," which for some is close enough to "Barack Obama." There is also the appearance of "Mabus" in "Obamabush."

Counterpoints
: Nostradamus also predicted the end of the world in 1999, as well as a host of other predictions that didn't come true in the slightest. Also, rearranging letters in names can be entertaining, but there's no deep meaning in it. For instance, an anagram for Hillary Clinton's name is "Lynch a trillion." So, Mabus?--Maybe yes, maybe no. Unfounded Internet rumors frequently pass for real facts. One site, for instance, that claims President George W. Bush's mother has a devilish lineage to Aleister Crowley. Additionally, it's hypocritical for those who quote the Bible on one hand and those who also use Nostradamus predictions, as he was an admitted occultist.

Theory #5: Left-handed

Obama is left-handed, and that is a marker of evil.

Counterpoints: The following past U.S. Presidents are left-handed: James A. Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry S. Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton. The notion of left-handed people being evil is a popular but outdated superstition that was the bane of left-handed students everywhere until the evolution of the ball-point pen-fountain pen ink would smear across the page for a left-handed writer-and left-handed desks.

Theory #6: Biblical Predictions

The Bible contains passages about an antichrist from an area that some argue Obama's lineage came from. There are also Biblical readers who claim that there are numerical codes that predict terror and mayhem in its pages.

Counterpoints: The Bible states that the antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, or son of God (John 2:22). There are a lot of people who fall into this category based on religious differences alone. Additionally, code-breaking that reveals only fear and terror sounds more like the movie A Beautiful Mind, which tells the story of a schizophrenic who finds secret codes in newspapers. The Bible states that we know not the coming of the Lord at the end times (Matthew 24:42) and having faith in occultists and diviners is forbidden. (Revelation 21:8)

During this important election year, there are many more important issues to discuss than whether Barack Obama is the antichrist, such as how the next President will stabilize the economy and make this country even better than it is for us who live proudly in it. As the global markets become more integrated affecting our businesses, livelihoods and access to education and health care, it's time to focus on real issues and not unfounded superstitions that sadly seem to pass for some as political discourse in this country.

Sources:
Glenn Beck asks if Obama is the antichrist, FOX News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7...ist.html?cat=75.
digitaltrance
Funny how people get labeled the 'anti-christ' Im pretty sure people thought Bush was the anti-christ not too long ago...

Anyway, we really need to pray for this election, this is a time were God must put who HE wants in office.
voice
QUOTE (digitaltrance @ Oct 6 2008, 01:28 AM) *
Funny how people get labeled the 'anti-christ' Im pretty sure people thought Bush was the anti-christ not too long ago...

Anyway, we really need to pray for this election, this is a time were God must put who HE wants in office.

Spoken wisely and with discernment. Politics seems to bring out the best and the worst in 'people'. I find it the humorlessness of it, humorous.


Psalm 2
1Why do the goyim rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his Messiah saying, 3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision. 5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the goyim for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. 10Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. 11Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Anything else, is idolatry.


Gideon7620
QUOTE (Voice @ Oct 5 2008, 11:26 AM) *
Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?

No Way in Hell





In some ways it's not surprising that pro-conservative FOX news anchor Glenn Beck brought up the notion, and jokingly, that 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama could be the antichrist !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4. .




After all, it's his job to skewer the left, and most people understand that. What is surprising, however, is that there is actually a group of people who do believe that Obama is the living incarnation of Satan.

Predating the FOX segment and the recent Reverend Wright sermon scandal, Google's CustomizeGoogle application has recorded more than 300,000 search hits for the keywords "Obama" and "antichrist." A quick tour of many of these sites reveals a fairly consistent set of six theories as to why many people believe it. However, a closer look into them exposes a hodgepodge mix of rumor, religious theory, and just plain unfounded superstition.

Theory #1: Cult-like following

Obama is criticized for frequently speaking the word "hope," to large crowds of proud supporters who chant his name and cheer wildly to show their support. He has been compared to a "savior" for the country, and that word is one that is usually reserved for Christianity. Additionally, although speaking about "change," Obama has said little about his plans if he were to be elected, adding further weight to the belief that he has supernatural powers of persuasion.


close window Counterpoints: Many Presidential hopefuls have used "time for a change" and other positive motivators as their campaign slogans and ideologies. To name a few: former Presidents Bill S. Clinton ("It's time to change, America"), Jimmy Carter ("A leader for a change"), and Dwight D. Eisenhower ("Peace and Prosperity"). Additionally, many past Presidential figures like John F. Kennedy could also be accused of having a cult-like following. Some could argue that Hillary Clinton also has cult-like following among college-aged females, judging by rally footage alone. Further, which candidates in this presidential election to date have really outlined exactly what they will be doing, besides Clinton's proposed National health care plan?

Does that automatically make a relatively silent McCain an antichrist contender, too?


Theory #2: Muslim surname that sounds like Osama Bin Laden

Obama's name is indeed of Muslim roots, given to him by his father, and is one letter off from Osama bin Laden, America's most wanted Muslim terrorist. Because of this connection, it is assumed that like Bin Laden, he will wreak terror upon the U.S. if elected President.

Counterpoints: While Obama indeed has a Muslim last name, this alone does not make him a terrorist. In fact, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations there are roughly 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide, of which terrorists are a small fraction. Comparing Obama to Osama simply because of similar last names points less to behavioral similarities and more to fear of a culture that began with the events of 9/11 that were brought about by a select few extremists of that faith. Obama himself refutes many of these claims.

Theory #3: Meteoric rise

Obama seemed to come out of nowhere and with little political experience is now running for President, and he's gaining popular momentum that could get him elected.

Counterpoints: Obama has been in politics for 12 years. Arnold Schwarzenegger was once a thick-accented action-hero actor and similarly, "out of nowhere" became the governor of California. For the record, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became president. The real issue at stake is whether we years is enough political experience to tackle unique problems that may come up during the course of his presidency, if elected.

Theory #4: Nostradamus prediction

Nostradamus predicted that the world would come to an end at the hands of someone named "Mabus," which for some is close enough to "Barack Obama." There is also the appearance of "Mabus" in "Obamabush."

Counterpoints
: Nostradamus also predicted the end of the world in 1999, as well as a host of other predictions that didn't come true in the slightest. Also, rearranging letters in names can be entertaining, but there's no deep meaning in it. For instance, an anagram for Hillary Clinton's name is "Lynch a trillion." So, Mabus?--Maybe yes, maybe no. Unfounded Internet rumors frequently pass for real facts. One site, for instance, that claims President George W. Bush's mother has a devilish lineage to Aleister Crowley. Additionally, it's hypocritical for those who quote the Bible on one hand and those who also use Nostradamus predictions, as he was an admitted occultist.

Theory #5: Left-handed

Obama is left-handed, and that is a marker of evil.

Counterpoints: The following past U.S. Presidents are left-handed: James A. Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry S. Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton. The notion of left-handed people being evil is a popular but outdated superstition that was the bane of left-handed students everywhere until the evolution of the ball-point pen-fountain pen ink would smear across the page for a left-handed writer-and left-handed desks.

Theory #6: Biblical Predictions

The Bible contains passages about an antichrist from an area that some argue Obama's lineage came from. There are also Biblical readers who claim that there are numerical codes that predict terror and mayhem in its pages.

Counterpoints: The Bible states that the antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, or son of God (John 2:22). There are a lot of people who fall into this category based on religious differences alone. Additionally, code-breaking that reveals only fear and terror sounds more like the movie A Beautiful Mind, which tells the story of a schizophrenic who finds secret codes in newspapers. The Bible states that we know not the coming of the Lord at the end times (Matthew 24:42) and having faith in occultists and diviners is forbidden. (Revelation 21:8)

During this important election year, there are many more important issues to discuss than whether Barack Obama is the antichrist, such as how the next President will stabilize the economy and make this country even better than it is for us who live proudly in it. As the global markets become more integrated affecting our businesses, livelihoods and access to education and health care, it's time to focus on real issues and not unfounded superstitions that sadly seem to pass for some as political discourse in this country.

Sources:
Glenn Beck asks if Obama is the antichrist, FOX News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7...ist.html?cat=75.


Gideon said, I agree. He is too stupid to be the antichrist. Secondly, the antichrist will arise from the wings of conservatism is American politics. He will be the anointed cherub, that will come in peacebly and he shall come it as an angel of light, to deceive if it were possible the very elect. The antichrist will set himself on the Mount of the Congregation to the sides of the nort; Though Obamah is from the north he is not from the sides of the north, nor does he sit on the mount of the congregation. Obamah is very liberal; Satan will be conservative to appeal to and attempt to deceive the siants.
diverteach
I agree that he's too stupid to be the Anti-Christ. That being said there is something to learn from the masses that Odumbo has gathered. Just look at how easily so many have fallen for his deceptions. Even some of the elect have fallen for him as evidenced right here on this forum.
voice
Is Antichrist a muslim?
Is Antichrist anti-american?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SbkItLSQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC4BDDMLejo...feature=related
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (Gideon7620 @ Oct 5 2008, 03:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Voice @ Oct 5 2008, 11:26 AM) *
Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?

No Way in Hell





In some ways it's not surprising that pro-conservative FOX news anchor Glenn Beck brought up the notion, and jokingly, that 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama could be the antichrist !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4. .




After all, it's his job to skewer the left, and most people understand that. What is surprising, however, is that there is actually a group of people who do believe that Obama is the living incarnation of Satan.

Predating the FOX segment and the recent Reverend Wright sermon scandal, Google's CustomizeGoogle application has recorded more than 300,000 search hits for the keywords "Obama" and "antichrist." A quick tour of many of these sites reveals a fairly consistent set of six theories as to why many people believe it. However, a closer look into them exposes a hodgepodge mix of rumor, religious theory, and just plain unfounded superstition.

Theory #1: Cult-like following

Obama is criticized for frequently speaking the word "hope," to large crowds of proud supporters who chant his name and cheer wildly to show their support. He has been compared to a "savior" for the country, and that word is one that is usually reserved for Christianity. Additionally, although speaking about "change," Obama has said little about his plans if he were to be elected, adding further weight to the belief that he has supernatural powers of persuasion.


close window Counterpoints: Many Presidential hopefuls have used "time for a change" and other positive motivators as their campaign slogans and ideologies. To name a few: former Presidents Bill S. Clinton ("It's time to change, America"), Jimmy Carter ("A leader for a change"), and Dwight D. Eisenhower ("Peace and Prosperity"). Additionally, many past Presidential figures like John F. Kennedy could also be accused of having a cult-like following. Some could argue that Hillary Clinton also has cult-like following among college-aged females, judging by rally footage alone. Further, which candidates in this presidential election to date have really outlined exactly what they will be doing, besides Clinton's proposed National health care plan?

Does that automatically make a relatively silent McCain an antichrist contender, too?


Theory #2: Muslim surname that sounds like Osama Bin Laden

Obama's name is indeed of Muslim roots, given to him by his father, and is one letter off from Osama bin Laden, America's most wanted Muslim terrorist. Because of this connection, it is assumed that like Bin Laden, he will wreak terror upon the U.S. if elected President.

Counterpoints: While Obama indeed has a Muslim last name, this alone does not make him a terrorist. In fact, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations there are roughly 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide, of which terrorists are a small fraction. Comparing Obama to Osama simply because of similar last names points less to behavioral similarities and more to fear of a culture that began with the events of 9/11 that were brought about by a select few extremists of that faith. Obama himself refutes many of these claims.

Theory #3: Meteoric rise

Obama seemed to come out of nowhere and with little political experience is now running for President, and he's gaining popular momentum that could get him elected.

Counterpoints: Obama has been in politics for 12 years. Arnold Schwarzenegger was once a thick-accented action-hero actor and similarly, "out of nowhere" became the governor of California. For the record, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became president. The real issue at stake is whether we years is enough political experience to tackle unique problems that may come up during the course of his presidency, if elected.

Theory #4: Nostradamus prediction

Nostradamus predicted that the world would come to an end at the hands of someone named "Mabus," which for some is close enough to "Barack Obama." There is also the appearance of "Mabus" in "Obamabush."

Counterpoints
: Nostradamus also predicted the end of the world in 1999, as well as a host of other predictions that didn't come true in the slightest. Also, rearranging letters in names can be entertaining, but there's no deep meaning in it. For instance, an anagram for Hillary Clinton's name is "Lynch a trillion." So, Mabus?--Maybe yes, maybe no. Unfounded Internet rumors frequently pass for real facts. One site, for instance, that claims President George W. Bush's mother has a devilish lineage to Aleister Crowley. Additionally, it's hypocritical for those who quote the Bible on one hand and those who also use Nostradamus predictions, as he was an admitted occultist.

Theory #5: Left-handed

Obama is left-handed, and that is a marker of evil.

Counterpoints: The following past U.S. Presidents are left-handed: James A. Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry S. Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton. The notion of left-handed people being evil is a popular but outdated superstition that was the bane of left-handed students everywhere until the evolution of the ball-point pen-fountain pen ink would smear across the page for a left-handed writer-and left-handed desks.

Theory #6: Biblical Predictions

The Bible contains passages about an antichrist from an area that some argue Obama's lineage came from. There are also Biblical readers who claim that there are numerical codes that predict terror and mayhem in its pages.

Counterpoints: The Bible states that the antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, or son of God (John 2:22). There are a lot of people who fall into this category based on religious differences alone. Additionally, code-breaking that reveals only fear and terror sounds more like the movie A Beautiful Mind, which tells the story of a schizophrenic who finds secret codes in newspapers. The Bible states that we know not the coming of the Lord at the end times (Matthew 24:42) and having faith in occultists and diviners is forbidden. (Revelation 21:8)

During this important election year, there are many more important issues to discuss than whether Barack Obama is the antichrist, such as how the next President will stabilize the economy and make this country even better than it is for us who live proudly in it. As the global markets become more integrated affecting our businesses, livelihoods and access to education and health care, it's time to focus on real issues and not unfounded superstitions that sadly seem to pass for some as political discourse in this country.

Sources:
Glenn Beck asks if Obama is the antichrist, FOX News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7...ist.html?cat=75.


Gideon said, I agree. He is too stupid to be the antichrist. Secondly, the antichrist will arise from the wings of conservatism is American politics. He will be the anointed cherub, that will come in peacebly and he shall come it as an angel of light, to deceive if it were possible the very elect. The antichrist will set himself on the Mount of the Congregation to the sides of the nort; Though Obamah is from the north he is not from the sides of the north, nor does he sit on the mount of the congregation. Obamah is very liberal; Satan will be conservative to appeal to and attempt to deceive the siants.



not to mention,,,I dont think Obamas making no lighting come from heaven........
voice
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Oct 8 2008, 12:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Gideon7620 @ Oct 5 2008, 03:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Voice @ Oct 5 2008, 11:26 AM) *
Is Barack Obama the Antichrist?

No Way in Hell





In some ways it's not surprising that pro-conservative FOX news anchor Glenn Beck brought up the notion, and jokingly, that 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama could be the antichrist !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4. .




After all, it's his job to skewer the left, and most people understand that. What is surprising, however, is that there is actually a group of people who do believe that Obama is the living incarnation of Satan.

Predating the FOX segment and the recent Reverend Wright sermon scandal, Google's CustomizeGoogle application has recorded more than 300,000 search hits for the keywords "Obama" and "antichrist." A quick tour of many of these sites reveals a fairly consistent set of six theories as to why many people believe it. However, a closer look into them exposes a hodgepodge mix of rumor, religious theory, and just plain unfounded superstition.

Theory #1: Cult-like following

Obama is criticized for frequently speaking the word "hope," to large crowds of proud supporters who chant his name and cheer wildly to show their support. He has been compared to a "savior" for the country, and that word is one that is usually reserved for Christianity. Additionally, although speaking about "change," Obama has said little about his plans if he were to be elected, adding further weight to the belief that he has supernatural powers of persuasion.


close window Counterpoints: Many Presidential hopefuls have used "time for a change" and other positive motivators as their campaign slogans and ideologies. To name a few: former Presidents Bill S. Clinton ("It's time to change, America"), Jimmy Carter ("A leader for a change"), and Dwight D. Eisenhower ("Peace and Prosperity"). Additionally, many past Presidential figures like John F. Kennedy could also be accused of having a cult-like following. Some could argue that Hillary Clinton also has cult-like following among college-aged females, judging by rally footage alone. Further, which candidates in this presidential election to date have really outlined exactly what they will be doing, besides Clinton's proposed National health care plan?

Does that automatically make a relatively silent McCain an antichrist contender, too?


Theory #2: Muslim surname that sounds like Osama Bin Laden

Obama's name is indeed of Muslim roots, given to him by his father, and is one letter off from Osama bin Laden, America's most wanted Muslim terrorist. Because of this connection, it is assumed that like Bin Laden, he will wreak terror upon the U.S. if elected President.

Counterpoints: While Obama indeed has a Muslim last name, this alone does not make him a terrorist. In fact, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations there are roughly 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide, of which terrorists are a small fraction. Comparing Obama to Osama simply because of similar last names points less to behavioral similarities and more to fear of a culture that began with the events of 9/11 that were brought about by a select few extremists of that faith. Obama himself refutes many of these claims.

Theory #3: Meteoric rise

Obama seemed to come out of nowhere and with little political experience is now running for President, and he's gaining popular momentum that could get him elected.

Counterpoints: Obama has been in politics for 12 years. Arnold Schwarzenegger was once a thick-accented action-hero actor and similarly, "out of nowhere" became the governor of California. For the record, so did Ronald Reagan, and he became president. The real issue at stake is whether we years is enough political experience to tackle unique problems that may come up during the course of his presidency, if elected.

Theory #4: Nostradamus prediction

Nostradamus predicted that the world would come to an end at the hands of someone named "Mabus," which for some is close enough to "Barack Obama." There is also the appearance of "Mabus" in "Obamabush."

Counterpoints
: Nostradamus also predicted the end of the world in 1999, as well as a host of other predictions that didn't come true in the slightest. Also, rearranging letters in names can be entertaining, but there's no deep meaning in it. For instance, an anagram for Hillary Clinton's name is "Lynch a trillion." So, Mabus?--Maybe yes, maybe no. Unfounded Internet rumors frequently pass for real facts. One site, for instance, that claims President George W. Bush's mother has a devilish lineage to Aleister Crowley. Additionally, it's hypocritical for those who quote the Bible on one hand and those who also use Nostradamus predictions, as he was an admitted occultist.

Theory #5: Left-handed

Obama is left-handed, and that is a marker of evil.

Counterpoints: The following past U.S. Presidents are left-handed: James A. Garfield, Herbert Hoover, Harry S. Truman, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton. The notion of left-handed people being evil is a popular but outdated superstition that was the bane of left-handed students everywhere until the evolution of the ball-point pen-fountain pen ink would smear across the page for a left-handed writer-and left-handed desks.

Theory #6: Biblical Predictions

The Bible contains passages about an antichrist from an area that some argue Obama's lineage came from. There are also Biblical readers who claim that there are numerical codes that predict terror and mayhem in its pages.

Counterpoints: The Bible states that the antichrist is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, or son of God (John 2:22). There are a lot of people who fall into this category based on religious differences alone. Additionally, code-breaking that reveals only fear and terror sounds more like the movie A Beautiful Mind, which tells the story of a schizophrenic who finds secret codes in newspapers. The Bible states that we know not the coming of the Lord at the end times (Matthew 24:42) and having faith in occultists and diviners is forbidden. (Revelation 21:8)

During this important election year, there are many more important issues to discuss than whether Barack Obama is the antichrist, such as how the next President will stabilize the economy and make this country even better than it is for us who live proudly in it. As the global markets become more integrated affecting our businesses, livelihoods and access to education and health care, it's time to focus on real issues and not unfounded superstitions that sadly seem to pass for some as political discourse in this country.

Sources:
Glenn Beck asks if Obama is the antichrist, FOX News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7...ist.html?cat=75.


Gideon said, I agree. He is too stupid to be the antichrist. Secondly, the antichrist will arise from the wings of conservatism is American politics. He will be the anointed cherub, that will come in peacebly and he shall come it as an angel of light, to deceive if it were possible the very elect. The antichrist will set himself on the Mount of the Congregation to the sides of the nort; Though Obamah is from the north he is not from the sides of the north, nor does he sit on the mount of the congregation. Obamah is very liberal; Satan will be conservative to appeal to and attempt to deceive the siants.



not to mention,,,I dont think Obamas making no lighting come from heaven........




A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
James 1:8


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OBAMA AND SATAN



The Obamas Look to Oprah as Their “Global Role Model”
Oprah Looks to Her Mentally Deranged Guru, Eckhart Tolle
Tolle Looks to His “Source,” an Exact Match for Satan



By Robert Bowie Johnson, Jr.

The overlooked imperious theme of Michelle Obama’s convention speech was “the world as it should be.” She used the phrase four times, emphasizing that she and Barack are “committed” to “building the world as it should be.” Mrs. Obama often speaks about remaking the world, as she did at the end of her UCLA speech: “We can change the world. Yes we can.” But how do she and her husband imagine that they are going to effect this change? Michelle’s own carefully considered written words give us a frightening clue, suggesting that the Obamas look to television personality, Oprah Winfrey, as their guide and inspiration in world affairs. What is doubly frightening is that Oprah looks, in turn, to her mentally deranged guru, Eckhart Tolle, and Tolle looks, in turn, to his inner “Source,” an exact match for Satan.

On May 20, Time magazine published Mrs. Obama’s tribute to Oprah as part of its 100 most influential people of 2008. It read in part: “Oprah is a wonderful friend and an incredible force. Her friendship and support have meant so much to Barack and me . . . Using her platform to serve as a global role model, she challenges us [Barack and me] to make the world as it is, the world as it should be. And she is always the first to show us how it can be done.” The Obamas’ vision of the “world as it should be” jibes with Oprah’s.

Oprah’s Obama-admired remake of the world is well underway. There is “a new kind of tribe emerging – a global community of seekers learning from and teaching each other how to be with our humanity,” Oprah says. This new “global community” is made up of the millions who have responded favorably to her relentless promotion of her pathologically narcissistic, anti-Christian guru, Eckhart Tolle.

In March of this year, Oprah kicked off her ten-week global Internet online class touting Tolle’s book, A New Earth, and its importance in raising everyone’s “consciousness.” The interactive webcast reached 500,000 people in more than 139 countries. Since that time, according to Oprah’s Web site, millions more have downloaded Oprah’s and Tolle’s teachings. When Michelle Obama, two months after the Tolle kick-off, lauded Oprah as being “a global role model . . . show[ing] us how it can be done,” to what was she referring, if not this most focused effort on Oprah’s part to “benefit” humanity by building a one-world multi-cultural tribe?

When Barack speaks of himself as “a fellow citizen of the world,” is he visualizing world peace becoming a reality through Oprah’s expanding tribe? Don’t doubt it. Michelle introduced Oprah in Iowa prior to Oprah’s introducing Obama, gushing that the talk-show queen “touches the souls of so many of us” and “empowers us all.” Michelle’s “us” includes Barack. In his Berlin speech entitled, “A World that Stands as One,” the Oprah-empowered Barack said that the “walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.” That’s exactly what Oprah is all about, promoting the lunacy that Tolle’s teaching transcends and unites all religions. Once the Christians, Muslims, and Jews join Oprah’s tribe and accept Oprah’s guru as their chief prophet, then Presto: world peace!

Oprah’s guru, Eckhart Tolle, is a troubled and troubling individual. He claims to have experienced “a reincarnation as a spiritual teacher” through a self-admitted psychotic episode. He is a case study in the development of the mental illness of malignant narcissism. Like the original Narcissus, Tolle is obsessed with the two-dimensional reflection of his image. In his The Power of Now, Tolle writes about what he learns from viewing his own image in a mirror: “If you accept the image, no matter what it is, if you become friendly toward it, it cannot not become friendly toward you. This is how you change the world.”

Here, in a nutshell, Tolle expresses the fundamental delusion and extreme grandiosity of his own malignant narcissism. A mirror image is not true, but backwards. Tolle is not the greatest spiritual teacher in the world as he imagines, but one of the least competent. Oprah welcomes Tolle’s preposterous claims with uncritical glee because they justify the adoration of her own backwards and exalted mirror image of herself. Obama also exhibits the characteristics of malignant narcissism, most notably the delusions of grandeur that lie at the heart of the complex. His entire campaign is nothing more than a demand to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements.

To review: Barack and Michelle Obama look to Oprah Winfrey as their “global role model” for change. To effect this worldwide change, Oprah, in turn, relies on the “infallible” teachings of her guru, Eckhart Tolle. Tolle, in turn, looks in the mirror and makes friends with the backwards image of himself, thus enabling him to “change the world.”

Beyond his backwards reflected image, Oprah’s guru relies on something even more disturbing to change the world. It is a spirit or a force Tolle calls the “Source” which he claims resides within himself and Oprah, and within all those others who have learned through his teachings to “dissolve” their egos. That “Source” has told Tolle that the word of the God of the Bible is not reliable, that there is no death, and that he and Oprah both are as God, able to say of themselves “I Am That I Am.” These things that the “Source” has told Oprah and Tolle are the exact same things the serpent told Eve in the ancient garden.

Let’s review one more time: To change the world, the Obamas look to the New Age babblings of a self-adoring talk-show host, she looks to her mentally deranged guru, he looks to a friendly, backwards image of himself and relies upon the utterances of a “Source” that Christians, Jews, and Muslims recognize immediately as the deluding “wisdom” of the Genesis serpent.

But to Oprah, in her morally backwards narcissistic state, Tolle’s recycled serpent’s “wisdom” does not seem delusive, but true. Oprah goes on to attribute that same “wisdom” to Barack Obama. She praises his “intelligence” and calls him “brilliant.” She says he has the “gift of wisdom,” and a “tongue dipped in unvarnished truth.” According to Oprah, not only does Obama always tell the truth, but also knows how “to be the truth,” a straightforward messianic reference.

Oprah has said, “I don’t think there’s anything more important than awakening and also knowing what your purpose is.” To her, awakening means embracing and spreading the ludicrous, grandiose notions of her guru, as she shamelessly tries to reconcile all of humanity to her and Tolle’s “Source.” Oprah and Tolle believe that “the transformation of human consciousness” is an “urgent task.” We must “evolve” or perish. Oprah refers to Obama as an “evolved leader.” After Obama’s convention speech, before meeting with him, Oprah said, “We have to do whatever it takes to get [Obama] in office.” Oprah’s purpose is to expand her mutually parasitic coupling with her guru into a politically powerful triumvirate, getting Obama elected president so he will help her “save” the world, on behalf of her and Tolle’s “Source.” The most horrifying part is that Obama actually believes he can do it through the Obama-Oprah-Tolle-Satan School of International Relations.

Revelation 12:9 refers to “the ancient serpent called Adversary and Satan, who is deceiving the whole inhabited earth.” Oprah Winfrey leads a global tribe that is part of that sinister process. She is backing a man for president who has become part of that sinister process, as well. Now we have a better understanding of what the Obamas and Oprah mean by “the world as it should be,” and what their guru really means when he says, “This is how you change the world.”


http://solvinglight.com/blog/obama-and-satan/
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QUOTE (diverteach @ Oct 5 2008, 07:29 PM) *
I agree that he's too stupid to be the Anti-Christ. That being said there is something to learn from the masses that Odumbo has gathered. Just look at how easily so many have fallen for his deceptions. Even some of the elect have fallen for him as evidenced right here on this forum.



Gideon said,

I agree, shows you how stupid people have become and are becoming. they are mindless zobies.
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Finding His Faith


So much has been made about Barack Obama's religion. But what does he believe, and how did he arrive at those beliefs?

Lisa Miller and Richard Wolffe NEWSWEEK From the magazine issue dated Jul 21, 2008 In 1981 Barack Obama was 20 years old, a Columbia University student in search of the meaning of life. He was torn a million different ways: between youth and maturity, black and white, coasts and continents, wonder and tragedy. He enrolled at Columbia in part to get far away from his past; he'd gone to high school in Hawaii and had just spent two years "enjoying myself," as he puts it, at Occidental College in Los Angeles. In New York City, "I lived an ascetic existence," Obama told NEWSWEEK in an interview on his campaign plane last week. "I did a lot of spiritual exploration. I withdrew from the world in a fairly deliberate way." He fasted. Often, he'd go days without speaking to another person.

For company, he had books. There was Saint Augustine, the fourth-century North African bishop who wrote the West's first spiritual memoir and built the theological foundations of the Christian Church. There was Friedrich Nietzsche, the 19th-century German philosopher and father of existentialism. There was Graham Greene, the Roman Catholic Englishman whose short novels are full of compromise, ambivalence and pain. Obama meditated on these men and argued with them in his mind.

When he felt restless on a Sunday morning, he would wander into an African-American congregation such as Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. "I'd just sit in the back and I'd listen to the choir and I'd listen to the sermon," he says, smiling a little as he remembers those early days in the wilderness. "There were times that I would just start tearing up listening to the choir and share that sense of release."

Obama has spoken often and eloquently about the importance of religion in public life. But like many political leaders wary of offending potential backers, he has been less revealing about what he believes—about God, about prayer, about the connection between salvation and personal responsibility. In some respects, his reticence is understandable. Obama's religious biography is unconventional and politically problematic. Born to a Christian-turned-secular mother and a Muslim-turned-atheist African father, Obama grew up living all across the world with plenty of spiritual influences, but without any particular religion. He is now a Christian, having been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. But rumors about Obama's religion persist. In the new NEWSWEEK Poll, 12 percent of voters incorrectly believe he's Muslim; more than a quarter believe he was raised in a Muslim home.

His baptism presents its own problems. The senior pastor at Trinity at the time of Obama's baptism was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., the preacher who was seen damning America on cable TV for weeks last spring—and will doubtless be seen again this fall. In the NEWSWEEK Poll, almost half of the respondents say Obama shares at least some of Wright's views; nearly a third say Wright might prevent them from voting for the presumptive Democratic nominee.

The story of Obama's religious journey is a uniquely American tale. It's one of a seeker, an intellectually curious young man trying to cobble together a religious identity out of myriad influences. Always drawn to life's Big Questions, Obama embarked on a spiritual quest in which he tried to reconcile his rational side with his yearning for transcendence. He found Christ—but that hasn't stopped him from asking questions. "I'm on my own faith journey and I'm searching," he says. "I leave open the possibility that I'm entirely wrong."

The story of Obama's faith begins with his mother, Ann. Raised in the Midwest by two lapsed Christians, she lived and traveled throughout the world appreciating all religions but confessing to none. One of Ann's favorite spiritual texts was "Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth," a set of PBS interviews with Bill Moyers that traces the common themes of religion and mythology, Obama's half sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, tells NEWSWEEK. When the family lived in Indonesia, Ann, on occasion, would take the children to Catholic mass; after returning to Hawaii, they would celebrate Easter and Christmas at United Church of Christ congregations. Ann later went back to Indonesia with Maya, and when Obama visited, they would take him to Borobudur, one of the largest Buddhist temples in the world. Later, while working in India, Ann lived for a time in a Buddhist monastery.

Visiting temples was not just tourism for Ann. "These kinds of experiences were a regular part of our childhood and our upbringing, and were important to [our mother] because they involved ritual," says Maya. "She thought that ritual was very beautiful. The idea of human beings' striving to be better, having the curiosity and questions about all these things, [was] perpetual and constant inside her."

Did Ann believe in God? Obama calls his mother "an agnostic." "I think she believed in a higher power," he says. "She believed in the fundamental order and goodness of the universe. She would have been very comfortable with Einstein's idea that God doesn't play dice. But I think she was very suspicious of the notion that one particular organized religion offered one truth."

Obama's father, raised Muslim in Kenya, was, by the time he met Ann, "a confirmed atheist" who considered religion "mumbo jumbo," writes Obama in "The Audacity of Hope." (Barack Obama Sr. left the family when Obama was 2.) During his years in Indonesia, Obama went first to a Catholic school—and then to a public elementary school with a weekly class of religious education that reflected the dominant Muslim culture. He was raised, in part, by his stepfather, a man named Lolo, who "like many Indonesians … followed a brand of Islam that could make room for the remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths," Obama wrote in "Dreams From My Father." "He explained that a man took on the powers of whatever he ate." Lolo introduced young Obama to the taste of dog meat, snake meat and roasted grasshopper. In Indonesia, Obama has said, he saw women with and without head coverings and Muslims living comfortably next to Christians. He has said that his life among Muslims in Indonesia showed him that "Islam can be compatible with the modern world."

Though Obama was a serious student in Hawaii—and, even then, a seeker—"Dreams" describes an adolescence there of predictable teenage drinking and smoking (and basketball). During his first two years of college at Occidental, he says, he was "not taking anything particularly seriously, or at least, on the surface, not taking anything particularly seriously." After transferring to Columbia, though, the spiritual quest began in earnest.

People who knew him around that time describe a reserved, monkish man, uninterested in the extracurriculars of New York student life: bars, socializing, gossiping. William Araiza was in a political-science seminar with Obama their senior year, and what he remembers most is Obama's detachment. "I don't want to imply he was intentionally aloof, he just seemed like he wasn't part of the college gang," Araiza says. "He was the kind of guy who didn't live in the dorms, didn't hang out on campus."

Obama's first job out of college was at Business International, a research service in New York. "There was a lot of socializing," says Beth Noymer Levine, one of Obama's colleagues. "Here you had a hotbed of young singles—from the socializing there would be some storytelling—but [Obama] pretty much stayed out of that stuff … He was very together, very mature, and I was 23 and felt like a train wreck next to him."

Obama says his spiritual quest was driven by two main impulses. He was looking for a community that he could call home—a sense of rootedness and belonging he missed from his biracial, peripatetic childhood. The visits to the black churches uptown helped fulfill that desire. "There's a side very particular to the African-American church tradition that was powerful to me," he says. The exuberant worship, the family atmosphere and the prophetic preaching at a church such as Abyssinian would have appealed to a young man who lived so in his head. And he became obsessed with the civil-rights movement. He'd become convinced, through his reading, of the transforming power of social activism, especially when paired with religion. This is not an uncommon revelation among the spiritually and progressively minded. ("There's no more dramatic story in American life" than the story of the civil-rights movement, says North Carolina Rep. David Price, who knows Obama professionally and writes about politics and religion. "You could not continue to be kind and gentle in your personal life and also be denying other people's humanity.") When Gerald Kellman recruited Obama to go to Chicago as a community organizer, he remembers, the young man was "very much caught up in the world of ideas." He was devouring Taylor Branch's "Parting the Waters," which is part history of the civil-rights movement, part biography of Martin Luther King Jr.

In Chicago, Obama found that organizers and activists there (and elsewhere) were employing a progressive theology to motivate faith groups to action. Using the writings of Paul Tillich and, especially, Reinhold Niebuhr—and also King, African-American and Roman Catholic liberation theologians, and Christian fathers like Saint Augustine—local religious leaders emphasized original sin and human imperfection. Christ's gift of salvation was to the community of believers, not to individual people in isolation. It was therefore the responsibility of the faithful to help each other—through deeds—to respond to the call of perfection that will be fully realized only at the end of time. Adherents of this particular theology frequently refer to Matthew 25: "Whatever you neglected to do unto the least of these, you neglected to do unto me." Everyone, in other words, is in this salvation thing together.

Obama's organizing days helped clarify his sense of faith and social action as intertwined. "It's hard for me to imagine being true to my faith—and not thinking beyond myself, and not thinking about what's good for other people, and not acting in a moral and ethical way," he says. When these ideas merged with his more emotional search for belonging, he was able to arrive at the foot of the cross. He "felt God's spirit beckoning me," he writes in "Audacity." "I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth."

Was it a conversion in the sense that he heard Jesus speaking to him in a moment after which nothing was the same? No. "It wasn't an epiphany," he says. "A bolt of lightning didn't strike me and suddenly I said, 'Aha!' It was a more gradual process that traced back to those times that I had spent in New York wandering the streets or reading books, where I decided that the meaning I found in my life, the values that were most important to me, the sense of wonder that I had, the sense of tragedy that I had—all these things were captured in the Christian story." And how much of the decision was pragmatic, motivated by Obama's desire, as he says in "Dreams," to get closer to the people he was trying to help? "I thought being part of a community and affirming my faith in a public fashion was important," Obama says.

The cross under which Obama went to Jesus was at the controversial Trinity United Church of Christ. It was a good fit. "That community of faith suited me," Obama says. For one thing, Trinity insisted on social activism as a part of Christian life. It was also a family place. Members refer to the sections in the massive sanctuary as neighborhoods; churchgoers go to the same neighborhood each Sunday and they get to know the people who sit near them. They know when someone's sick or got a promotion at work. Jeremiah Wright, whom Obama met in the context of organizing, became a friend; after he married, Obama says, the two men would sometimes get together "after church to have chicken with the family—and we would have talked stories about our families." In his preaching, Wright often emphasized the importance of family, of staying married and taking good care of children. (Obama's recent Father's Day speech, in which he said that "responsibility does not end at conception," was not cribbed from Wright—but the premise could have been.) At the point of his decision to accept Christ, Obama says, "what was intellectual and what was emotional joined, and the belief in the redemptive power of Jesus Christ, that he died for our sins, that through him we could achieve eternal life—but also that, through good works we could find order and meaning here on Earth and transcend our limits and our flaws and our foibles—I found that powerful."

Maya says their mother would not have made the same choice—but that Ann understood and approved of Obama's decision: "She didn't feel the same need, because for her, she felt like we can still be good to one another and serve, but we don't have to choose. She was, of course, always a wanderer, and I think he was more inclined to be rooted and make the choice to set down his commitments more firmly."

After his stint as an organizer, Obama went to Harvard Law School. He didn't officially join Trinity until several years later, when he returned to Chicago as a promising young lawyer intent on becoming a husband, a father and a professional success. Around the time Obama was baptized, he says he studied the Bible with gifted teachers who would "gently poke me about my faith." As young marrieds, Barack and Michelle (who also didn't go to church regularly as a child) went to church fairly often—two or three times a month. But after their first child, Malia, was born, they found making the effort more difficult. "I don't know if you've had the experience of taking young, squirming children to church, but it's not easy," he says. "Trinity was always packed, and so you had to get there early. And if you went to the morning service, you were looking at—it just was difficult. So that would cut back on our involvement."

After he began his run for the U.S. Senate, he says, the family sometimes didn't go to Trinity for months at a time. The girls have not attended Sunday school. The family says grace at mealtime, and he talks to the children about God whenever they have questions. "I'm a big believer in a faith that is not imposed but taps into what's already there, their curiosity or their spirit," he says.

Amid the hubbub, Obama continued to try to work out for himself what it meant to be a person of faith. In 1999, while still in the Illinois State Senate, he shared an office suite with Ira Silverstein, an Orthodox Jew. Obama peppered Silverstein with questions about Orthodox restrictions on daily life: the kosher laws and the sanctions against certain kinds of behavior on the Sabbath. "On the Sabbath, if I ever needed anything, Barack would always offer," remembers Silverstein. "Some of the doors are electric, so he would offer to open them … I didn't expect that."

Since severing ties with Wright and Trinity, Obama is a little spiritually rootless again. He lost a friend in Wright—and he lost a home, however tenuous those ties may have been toward the end, in Trinity. He has not found a new church, and he doesn't plan to look for one until after the election. "There's an aspect of the campaign process that would not make it a good time to figure out whether a particular church community worked for us," he says. "Because of what happened at Trinity, we'd be under a spotlight."

Nevertheless, his spiritual life on the campaign trail survives. He says he prays every day, typically for "forgiveness for my sins and flaws, which are many, the protection of my family, and that I'm carrying out God's will, not in a grandiose way, but simply that there is an alignment between my actions and what he would want."


He sometimes reads his Bible in the evenings, a ritual that "takes me out of the immediacy of my day and gives me a point of reflection." Thanks to the efforts of his religious outreach team, he has an army of clerics and friends praying for him and e-mailing him snippets of Scripture or Midrash to think about during the day.

The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell—who gave the invocations at both of George W. Bush's inaugurals and presided over the wedding of the president's daughter Jenna—is among those on Obama's prayer team. When Caldwell talks about Obama, he can barely keep the emotion out of his voice. The thing that impresses him most, he says, is that when he asks Obama, "What can I pray for?" Obama always says, "Michelle and the girls." "He never says, 'Pray for me, pray for my campaign, pray that folks will quit bashing me.' He always says, 'Pray for Michelle and my girls'."

But Obama's faith is not without its critics. Some on the right say his particular brand of Christianity is a modern amalgam—unorthodox, undisciplined, even insincere. Last month Dr. James Dobson accused Obama of "deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology." The campaign responded that Obama was reaching out to people of faith and standing up for families.

When Franklin Graham asked Obama recently how, as a Christian, he could reconcile New Testament claims that salvation was attainable only through Christ with a campaign that embraces pluralism and diversity, Obama tells NEWSWEEK he said: "It is a precept of my Christian faith that my redemption comes through Christ, but I am also a big believer in the Golden Rule, which I think is an essential pillar not only of my faith but of my values and my ideals and my experience here on Earth. I've said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell." Graham, he said, was very gracious in reply. Should Obama beat John McCain, he has history on his side. Presidents such as Lincoln and Jefferson were unorthodox Christians; and, according to a Pew Forum survey, 70 percent of Americans agree with the statement that "many religions can lead to eternal life." "My particular set of beliefs," Obama says, "may not be perfectly consistent with the beliefs of other Christians."

Last March, when video clips of Wright damning America blitzed the airwaves, Obama wrote a speech about race that he hoped would save his campaign. But it was, to some, also a speech about faith. Obama tried to explain his relationship with his pastor, to appeal to Americans' sense of the best in themselves. He spoke of racial divides in America as "a part of ourselves we have yet to perfect," and of his pastor as a flawed, human creature. "That speech," says Paul Elie, the Catholic author of "The Life You Save May Be Your Own," "is steeped in Christianity. We have relationships, they're all flawed, we're all broken. You can't renounce your history with a person at a stroke, we have to fare forward with other imperfect people and resist the claims to perfection coming from both sides." After Wright's performance a month later at the National Press Club, Elie says, Obama was right—and Christian—to repudiate him.

Did Obama see the race speech as a religion speech? Last week, aboard the campaign plane, he said: "Race is a central test of our belief that we're our brother's keeper, our sister's keeper … There's a sense that if we are to get beyond our racial divides, that it should be neat and pretty, whereas part of my argument was that it's going to be hard and messy—and that's where faith comes in." As the general election wears on, Obama will have to summon all of his faith, in all of its complexity. Few things in life are harder, or messier, than the last months of a presidential campaign.

With Sarah Kliff

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"As Ronald Reagan's legal counsel and as a dean and professor at Catholic University and Notre Dame, I have worked to put the law on the side of life where it belongs.

I believe we are all called to build a culture of life - but there's more to it than just hoping that the next Supreme Court justice somehow deals with Roe v. Wade.

A bad economy is threatening to human life. Women facing the moral tragedy of abortion - are facing it, now, today - and they need a supportive community and tangible help, not condemnation.

But after 35 years, a new approach is needed.

Senator Barack Obama's strengthening of support for prenatal care, health care, maternity leave, and adoption will make help drastically reduce the numbers of abortions. Studies confirm it..."

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Facing an unplanned pregnancy can mean a woman is facing a serious crisis. She needs real help.


Health care for a strong mother and healthy baby. Education - not only well-run preschools but also higher education plans that offer support to mothers - and fathers - who have dreams of supporting themselves and making their own contribution to our economy. Child care programs that respond to the needs of working families.


We could make this happen.

Many pro-life advocacy efforts have focused on the legal status of abortion, rather than addressing prevention of unplanned pregnancy and the needs of pregnant women and families. This has intensified the division and partisanship around this issue, but has little effect at reducing the abortion rate itself.


Making the choice for life possible is a choice we can all make.

And it's a choice Barack Obama has already made, as he challenges us to live up to the call us to "be our brothers' and sisters' keepers," to join together to help women in difficult situations make the choice for life by providing pre- and postnatal care, income support, parent training and caring adoption programs.

We need a systemic, common ground, common sense approach. Nearly two-thirds of women who have abortions are poor. Almost half are college-age or younger. Two thirds are single.

We can drastically reduce abortions by helping reduce unplanned pregnancies and supporting pregnant women and families that need help.

Senator Barack Obama will fight to make sure that every woman in America has the support she needs when facing an unplanned pregnancy. Senator Obama's grass-roots, faith-based approach of support for women and families will help them when they most need it, preventing abortions by supporting women and families to choose life.

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