thenjduke
Sep 30 2008, 07:41 AM
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 06:55 AM)

"OPENING BELL" = 666
What really caught my eye was the fact that the Dow dropped 777 point. I know it was 777.68 something but does not 777 have role in God's plan?
Gideon7620
Sep 30 2008, 08:20 AM
QUOTE (thenjduke @ Sep 30 2008, 07:41 AM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 06:55 AM)

"OPENING BELL" = 666
What really caught my eye was the fact that the Dow dropped 777 point. I know it was 777.68 something but does not 777 have role in God's plan?
Gideon said,
Perhaps this represents the judgment of God against Babylon and its world trade system.
dennis mann
Sep 30 2008, 10:20 AM
our leaders (and many of the public) have known for decades that we were living beyond our incomes,,,,,,,,on borrowed money,,,,,,,,,,,and that debt would be passed on to our children and grandchildren and beyond
they knew that it was extremely evil,,,,,,,,,,they are reaping what they sowed..........this calamity is super-natural, ,,,,,,,,,it's from God Himself
gregg
Sep 30 2008, 04:02 PM
And in the last days, their gold will be a testimony against them.
Gideon7620
Sep 30 2008, 06:28 PM
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 06:16 PM)

QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 30 2008, 06:08 PM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 04:23 PM)

QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 30 2008, 02:05 PM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 07:55 AM)

"OPENING BELL" = 666
HIA... Very observant of you... Yes, indeed, this is certainly the case... I plugged "opening bell" into the Gematria Calculator: http://real-world-news.org/numerics/english-gematria.html and "666" does emerge. What this means is that this "DAILY RITUAL" of ringing the "bell" is an esoteric satanic ritual that our nation conducts every day on the behalf of the god Mammon.
But most alarming, the "Ringing of the Bell" is apart of the Satanic Magic Ritual to "open" the ceremony and to "close" the ceremony and acts as a "purification" for the invocation of the presence of Satan. This is what the NYSE does every day to receive favor from the god of this world.
Additionally, the ringing of the "Opening Bell" in Hindu rituals is also conducted: http://e-sambar.blogspot.com/2008/07/hindu...ng-bell-in.html
But, note that this ritual is in allegiance to Hindu demonology and thus their literary references to "Lord" is not in reference to the Lord of the Bible, but to the god of this world, Satan.
-7-7...
Thanks for the connection you made to the bell ringing in Hinduism. Roman Catholicism also uses bell ringing in the ritual Mass.
THE RITUAL UNITY OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM AND HINDUISM
CONSECRATIONThe heart of the mystery now begins. It is called the Canon of the Mass. Kissing the altar to show his union with Christ, lifting his eyes and hands towards heaven, with the sign of the cross three times over the oblation, the celebrant prays, offering "these * gifts, these* presents, these* holy unspotted sacrifices"; then follows the commemoration of the living, praying silently for those he wishes to pray for. Here are invoked the Virgin Mary, various apostles, martyrs and saints. [Page 11] Then, spreading his hands over the bread and wine, he offers the oblation, "which oblation do Thou, 0 God, vouchsafe in all respects to bless,* approve,* ratify, and * accept; that it may be made for us the body* and blood* of Thy most beloved Son Jesus Christ our Lord. Who the day before He suffered, took bread into His holy and venerable hands, and with His eyes uplifted towards heaven to Thee, the Almighty God, His Father, giving thanks to Thee, He blessed, brake, and gave it to His disciples, saying, Take and eat ye all of this. For this is My Body".
The priest kneels, adores, and elevates for all to see that the Lord is present. The server rings the bell, for of old a trumpet was sounded at the moment of crucifixion; and tradition says it happened for Christ's crucifixion, and the bell commemorates this. The priest continues, "In like manner, after He had supped, taking alto this excellent Chalice with His holy and venerable hands, giving Thee also thanks, He blessed, and gave it to His disciples, saving, Take and drink ye all of this. For this is the chalice of My blood of the new and eternal testament, the Mystery of Faith, which shall be shed for you and for many, to the remission of sins. As often as ye do these things, ye shall do them in remembrance of Me".
http://www.theosophical.ca/Ritual%20UnityCJ.htm LOL! I forgot about those bells rung during Catholic Mass... I was a Catholic from family tradition but walked away from it all 26 years ago and became a Born Again Christian (a REAL Christian). It all seems like another life time.
-7 I was also raised in Catholicism. Yes... those bells, incense, candles, etc. It has been 30 for me: the day the Lord saved me and I became a REAL Christian. God is good and His Mercy endureth forever!

Amen Annie, I was raised a catholic that rarely went to church. Praise God for the bus captain that took me to church one day when I was five. It was on this day Christ saved me from the fires of hell, and I shall live forever more. This would not have occured in a Roman Catholic Church. The RC church is I believe the religious harlot, while America is the political and economic harlot.
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 06:16 PM)

QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 30 2008, 06:08 PM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 04:23 PM)

QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 30 2008, 02:05 PM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 30 2008, 07:55 AM)

"OPENING BELL" = 666
HIA... Very observant of you... Yes, indeed, this is certainly the case... I plugged "opening bell" into the Gematria Calculator: http://real-world-news.org/numerics/english-gematria.html and "666" does emerge. What this means is that this "DAILY RITUAL" of ringing the "bell" is an esoteric satanic ritual that our nation conducts every day on the behalf of the god Mammon.
But most alarming, the "Ringing of the Bell" is apart of the Satanic Magic Ritual to "open" the ceremony and to "close" the ceremony and acts as a "purification" for the invocation of the presence of Satan. This is what the NYSE does every day to receive favor from the god of this world.
Additionally, the ringing of the "Opening Bell" in Hindu rituals is also conducted: http://e-sambar.blogspot.com/2008/07/hindu...ng-bell-in.html
But, note that this ritual is in allegiance to Hindu demonology and thus their literary references to "Lord" is not in reference to the Lord of the Bible, but to the god of this world, Satan.
-7-7...
Thanks for the connection you made to the bell ringing in Hinduism. Roman Catholicism also uses bell ringing in the ritual Mass.
THE RITUAL UNITY OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM AND HINDUISM
CONSECRATIONThe heart of the mystery now begins. It is called the Canon of the Mass. Kissing the altar to show his union with Christ, lifting his eyes and hands towards heaven, with the sign of the cross three times over the oblation, the celebrant prays, offering "these * gifts, these* presents, these* holy unspotted sacrifices"; then follows the commemoration of the living, praying silently for those he wishes to pray for. Here are invoked the Virgin Mary, various apostles, martyrs and saints. [Page 11] Then, spreading his hands over the bread and wine, he offers the oblation, "which oblation do Thou, 0 God, vouchsafe in all respects to bless,* approve,* ratify, and * accept; that it may be made for us the body* and blood* of Thy most beloved Son Jesus Christ our Lord. Who the day before He suffered, took bread into His holy and venerable hands, and with His eyes uplifted towards heaven to Thee, the Almighty God, His Father, giving thanks to Thee, He blessed, brake, and gave it to His disciples, saying, Take and eat ye all of this. For this is My Body".
The priest kneels, adores, and elevates for all to see that the Lord is present. The server rings the bell, for of old a trumpet was sounded at the moment of crucifixion; and tradition says it happened for Christ's crucifixion, and the bell commemorates this. The priest continues, "In like manner, after He had supped, taking alto this excellent Chalice with His holy and venerable hands, giving Thee also thanks, He blessed, and gave it to His disciples, saving, Take and drink ye all of this. For this is the chalice of My blood of the new and eternal testament, the Mystery of Faith, which shall be shed for you and for many, to the remission of sins. As often as ye do these things, ye shall do them in remembrance of Me".
http://www.theosophical.ca/Ritual%20UnityCJ.htm LOL! I forgot about those bells rung during Catholic Mass... I was a Catholic from family tradition but walked away from it all 26 years ago and became a Born Again Christian (a REAL Christian). It all seems like another life time.
-7 I was also raised in Catholicism. Yes... those bells, incense, candles, etc. It has been 30 for me: the day the Lord saved me and I became a REAL Christian. God is good and His Mercy endureth forever!

Amen Annie, I was raised a catholic that rarely went to church. Praise God for the Baptist bus captain that took me to church one day when I was five. It was on this day Christ saved me from the fires of hell, and I shall live forever more. This would not have occured in a Roman Catholic Church. The RC church is I believe the religious harlot, while America is the political and economic harlot.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 30 2008, 08:05 PM
It looks like Chloe has a problem.
happy2Bfree
Sep 30 2008, 09:47 PM
Well I don't look like that guy....but I certainly feel that way when I see these kinds of threads pop up over and over and over again.
Sorry Seven. It's just how I feel. This kind of thing will get us nowhere.
happy2Bfree
Sep 30 2008, 11:27 PM
That is not telling the truth Seven.
That is propagating fear...doubt...
And I'm sorry...but I don't believe that comes from God.
YOU do not save people. Only Yeshua does. And people never get saved by that kind of way.
What they learn to do is to run in fear and doubt and that never leads anyone to God.
So...that brings me to my point....WHY do you and a few others continue bringing all this stuff up over and over again?
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Oct 1 2008, 12:28 AM
Silly, you misunderstood me. Of course Jesus "saves" in terms of "Salvation" of the soul (spirit). BUT, that wasn't the context I was referring to, and you are twisting my intended words. I hope this isn't a cunning ploy on your part. I wasn't using the word "save" in that capacity of "Salvation". I was using it in terms of being spared and saved "FROM THE SNARE OF THE FOWLER", the lies of Satan, deception and the darkness when TRUTH IS REVEALED, in terms of "the TRUTH shall set you free" and "the Light pierces the darkness".
Well, I certainly cannot speak for others, but I have already explained to you the "WHY" on another thread just a few days ago... as I will reiterate yet again since obviously you have an extremely short memory, that being SPIRITUAL WARFARE and that we are engaged in a SPIRITUAL WAR. Clearly, you have no comprehension of the art of war, nor do you have any understanding of its purpose in the Body of Christ. I bet you do not even know that "THE BRIDE" is actually a "WARRIOR BRIDE".
OneOfHisHandmaidens
Oct 1 2008, 01:05 AM
I find this ALL very helpful information. We are to WARN our brothers and sisters!!!!!!! God doesn't give ALL the information to ONE person!!!! He shares it with the BODY of Christ...........and that means.....we are to SHARE it with each other!!! We are each given "pieces" of the puzzle....and it takes all of our pieces to get the big picture. We are to ALL work together!! We are ON THE SAME TEAM!!!! Why don't we ACT like it?????
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Oct 1 2008, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (OneOfHisHandmaidens @ Oct 1 2008, 02:05 AM)

I find this ALL very helpful information. We are to WARN our brothers and sisters!!!!!!! God doesn't give ALL the information to ONE person!!!! He shares it with the BODY of Christ...........and that means.....we are to SHARE it with each other!!! We are each given "pieces" of the puzzle....and it takes all of our pieces to get the big picture. We are to ALL work together!! We are ON THE SAME TEAM!!!! Why don't we ACT like it?????
DITTO!!!
The "Body" is composed of different parts, yet it is to work in unison WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY all the INDIVIDUAL parts function DISTINCTLY SEPARATE from each other. Why can't some Christians understand this and apply it to the Body of Christ? Instead, they "think" the DIFFERENCES in contrast to themselves are a MALCONTENT. In the Body some will be "spiritual warriors" while others are "edifiers"; some will be "Light in the darkness" (spies) while others remain in the Light as "encouragers" of the Brethren; some will be "crushers of serpents and scorpions" while others are "pilgrims" glorifying God; some "cast out demons" while others evoke the Presence of the Holy Spirit.
People need to break out of their narrow sightedness and see and realize there is a BIGGER PICTURE, a BIGGER FUNCTION, and a BIGGER MECHANICS.
happy2Bfree
Oct 1 2008, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Oct 1 2008, 12:53 AM)

QUOTE (Chloé @ Oct 1 2008, 01:42 AM)

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obviously you have an extremely short memory,
Well if you had everything that I do on your mind..... then you would be very forgetful too.
But again dear Seven.... this kind of stuff does not bring people to Yeshua. This is popcorn....made for the movies kind of information.
Not a bit of it is edifying...non of it helps anyone. I disagree with you. It's really another tool in God's arsenal. Why, just consider the discussion on the "bell" in this very thread... if I were still a Catholic and I heard such a discussion for the very first time, I would definitely begin to question my Catholic religion and faith if I knew it had connections to rituals that were borrowed from the occult, Satanism and Hinduism. As a result, this "knowing" of a HIDDEN TRUTH would be a seed planted by the Spirit to lure me out of Catholicism and to Christ and True Salvation. I find it really sad that you cannot see this.Seven...
The only One that was able to open my eyes was the Holy Spirit. And He is the only One that can reveal Yeshua to someone.
I don't mean to offend you....but sometimes..all these kind of discussions get to be a bit "much" (if you know what I mean). That is just how I feel.
I would like to see you engage in some of the other discussions that pertain to scripture teachings. I'd like to know your thoughts on some of that.....instead of all this....all the time.
Gnight.
Spirit Of Truth
Oct 4 2008, 11:58 AM
I'm surprised you all seem to have missed the most apparent symbolism of the stock market action of Monday, 9/29.
See my related blog, "God's Number Seven", at:
http://TheSpiritOfTruth.blogspot.comHere's the first paragraph (which I just revised with a link to this thread!):
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The DJIA fell 777.7 points on Monday which was a decline of 7%. That this might have been a prophetic day for Wall Street seemed symbolized by how the opening bell never sounded because of an electronic malfunction. Notably, on Monday there was a new moon that was in the 7th degree of the 7th sign in the zodiac, Libra. This new moon marked the beginning of the 7th lunar month of Tishri in the Jewish calendar and the start of the Jewish year 5769 and a new 7 year Sabbatical cycle (see below). What's more, 9/11 occurred 7 days before Rosh Hashanah at the beginning of the Jewish year 5762. Thus, according to the Hebrew calendar, Monday was 7 years and 7 days after 9/11.
What's so special about the number 7? Seven is God's number...