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Beginning
[?]
Rebellion of Satan and 1/3 of The Angles
[?]
Desolation of The Earth
[?]
Renovation of The Earth
[6 Days]
Adam
[1,000 Years]
Flood - Noah
I - Land of Magog
II - Akkadian/Assyrian
[1,000 Years]
Abraham -Israel
Land of Israel
[1,000 Years]
David -Israel
II - Assyrian
III - Babylonian - Gold [Head] - Lion - I
IV - Persian - Silver [Chest - Arms] - Bear - II
Start 70 Weeks [490 Years]
V - Grecian - Bronze [Belly - Thighs] [N-S] - Leopard - III
[1,000 Years]
Jesus
End 69th Week [483 Years lapsed]

Interlude - [2,000 Years + ? Years]

70th Week [7 Years + 30 Days + 45 Days]
VI - [Small - Unnamed] - Iron [Legs] [N-S] - IV
Divided Dominion of The Beast
VII - [Lion-Bear-Leopard] - Iron [Leg] [N] + Clay [Feet] - IV
42 Months [1,260 Days]
Jesus - Stone
[1,000 Years]
Eternity

70TH WEEK - The tribulation period

Jesus Takes Believers to Heaven

The seals are removed and the events of the Lord's coming judgment begin

[beginnings]
Confirmation of the Covenant for the remaining One "7"
144,000 Mortal Israelites Sealed [144,000 Preach Gospel to Israel]
Satan Thrown to Earth [Given Key to Abyss]
Little Horn Removes and Replaces 3 Horns
4 Trumpets [Judgments]
Mystery Babylon's great city destroyed
5th trumpet (1st Woe)
Release of Abaddon and Abyss Angels
[Next 150 Days]
6th Trumpet (2nd Woe)
Release of 4 Euphrates Angels + Host
[Next 1,110 Days]
Middle East Conquered By Little Horn + 10 Horns
Israel Invaded and Conquered
Abomination of Desolation Set Up
[Next 1,260 Days]
42 Month [1,260 Days] Rule of The Beast
144,000 Preach Gospel to the Nations
Two Witnesses [1,260 Days]
Protection of Remnant in Wilderness [1,260 Days]
[Next 30 Days]
7th Trumpet (7 Vials) (3rd Woe)
Destruction of Beast's Dominion
Destruction of the Continent of the Great City
Destruction of the Rest of the World's Cities
Armageddon
Beast and False Prophet Destroyed [lake of fire]
Satan sent to The Abyss
Jesus Appears to the World
[Next 45 Days]
Gathering of The Elect [Israelites]
Separation of The Nations [Gentiles]
Millennial Kingdom
[1,000 Years]
Satan Released From Abyss
Satan Destroyed [lake of fire]
New Heavens and Earth
Eternity

Jesus said:

"I am the resurrection and the life.
He who believes in me though he were dead,
yet shall he live.
He that believes in me and lives
will never die."
[John 11:25-26]

This is the Lord's "Harpazo" action for the Body of Christ just before His hour of trial on the earth


A portion of the Big Picture from my website: www.prophecy1.blogspot.com
MMarc

Only one problem Stephen the hour of trial is already here.
Stephen
I would say no

The Lord's coming judgment and wrath is not present yet

There was false teaching exactly like your suggestion in the first century and Paul had to correct it .... read about it in 2Thessalonians 2

There will be no question about the tribulation period being in process when it comes

All of the details of the period are written in scripture and there are no comparables of the past or present that exactly fit them taken together

None of the events of the time of the end recorded in the unfulfilled portion of the visions of the Bible prophets have ever or are currently taking place
MMarc

They said the same when Jesus came, they would discern the weather (natural) but could not {{discern}} the times.

I'm too tired to argue bro, but how do you understand the "hour of temptation" or what makes the great tribulation in your eyes.

What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?
Stephen
"What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?"

>All of the events of the coming tribulation are contained in the unfulfilled portion of the visions of the Bible prophets

>Look for them yourself, you can find them

>Do you study the scriptures much on this subject?

>I doubt that you do, otherwise you could answer your own question

>The details are many and recorded exactly as they will take place

>And very significant events presented in order
John Prewett
QUOTE (MMarc @ Sep 27 2008, 11:25 PM) *
They said the same when Jesus came, they would discern the weather (natural) but could not {{discern}} the times.

I'm too tired to argue bro, but how do you understand the "hour of temptation" or what makes the great tribulation in your eyes.

What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?


The NUMBER ONE next prophecied event to come is the PUBLIC,

WORLD AMAZING REVEALING OF THE FINAL "BEAST"

as per Revelation 13.

Revelation contains enough information to NOW identify this person BY NAME.

[IF you correctly identify the Great Whore,
THEN you can correctly identify the final "beast"]

Other big event to come is the attack on Israel as per Ezekiel 38-39.
MMarc
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 27 2008, 01:45 PM) *
"What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?"

>All of the events of the coming tribulation are contained in the unfulfilled portion of the visions of the Bible prophets

>Look for them yourself, you can find them

>Do you study the scriptures much on this subject?

>I doubt that you do, otherwise you could answer your own question

>The details are many and recorded exactly as they will take place

>And very significant events presented in order


I've been telling you the great trib has been at hand as the signs of the saints being martyred all over the world.

Now you don't answer my question because you don't know?

I asked you what signs in the world you need to prove to you (not me) that would start the great trib.

What are YOU looking for, I already gave my answer, I just want your take on it.
Stephen
I know what you want, but I will not take the time to argue. Things have been going on for the last 2,000 plus years with conditions like today .... and these things will continue. When the Lord brings His coming judgment of the earth all will know for sure .... the period will have no precedent and will be the greatest upheaval known to mankind. This period will begin without warning and there will be none of the signs and events recorded in scripture until it does.
John Prewett
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 29 2008, 06:57 PM) *
I know what you want, but I will not take the time to argue. Things have been going on for the last 2,000 plus years with conditions like today .... and these things will continue. When the Lord brings His coming judgment of the earth all will know for sure .... the period will have no precedent and will be the greatest upheaval known to mankind. This period will begin without warning and there will be none of the signs and events recorded in scripture until it does.


"without warning" --Don't write that again.

Write "period will begin suddenly."

But don't write "without warning."

Stage presently nearly fully set for end time events.

WARNINGS ABOUND ---------------- WARNINGS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

In scritpture and in the daily news.

Stephen
There will be no warning

This is quite clear in scripture

Your presumptions are just like those of many in the past who called the time by what they thought were signs

They were wrong

There is a reason why

There are stage setting events in play today, but only two that can be clearly identified by the scriptures

These are not the signs and events that will take place during the coming tribulation period

Israel has returned in part to experience the time and the nation is surrounded by its ancient enemies who want to destroy the nation

I will write as I see fit
bonomike
QUOTE (John Prewett @ Sep 29 2008, 07:25 AM) *
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 29 2008, 06:57 PM) *
I know what you want, but I will not take the time to argue. Things have been going on for the last 2,000 plus years with conditions like today .... and these things will continue. When the Lord brings His coming judgment of the earth all will know for sure .... the period will have no precedent and will be the greatest upheaval known to mankind. This period will begin without warning and there will be none of the signs and events recorded in scripture until it does.


"without warning" --Don't write that again.

Write "period will begin suddenly."

But don't write "without warning."

Stage presently nearly fully set for end time events.

WARNINGS ABOUND ---------------- WARNINGS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

In scritpture and in the daily news.



If Noah had no warning, then neither will we have warning either.

May we not be found sleeping.

In Christ,

Mike

Stephen
The believer must be "ready" .... as the Lord has said
digitaltrance
1st john 5:11
QUOTE (MMarc @ Sep 28 2008, 10:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 27 2008, 01:45 PM) *
"What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?"

>All of the events of the coming tribulation are contained in the unfulfilled portion of the visions of the Bible prophets

>Look for them yourself, you can find them

>Do you study the scriptures much on this subject?

>I doubt that you do, otherwise you could answer your own question

>The details are many and recorded exactly as they will take place

>And very significant events presented in order


I've been telling you the great trib has been at hand as the signs of the saints being martyred all over the world.

Now you don't answer my question because you don't know?

I asked you what signs in the world you need to prove to you (not me) that would start the great trib.

What are YOU looking for, I already gave my answer, I just want your take on it.


MMark the great trib has not started and I think almost everyone on this forum for that matter can see and understand that.

What sign will be the begining and one that would be hard to miss by anyone.
Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering....

Now if you see this then get ready for the Great Tribulation to begin. (middle of the week)

As for us we will be in heaven with Christ before this but this is another matter which you are not willing to accept.

Oh and as for tribulation, the body of Christ has been experiencing it from the get go.
There is a difference between the tribulation of this age, and the great tribulation.

1st john 5:11
QUOTE (John Prewett @ Sep 28 2008, 03:16 AM) *
QUOTE (MMarc @ Sep 27 2008, 11:25 PM) *
They said the same when Jesus came, they would discern the weather (natural) but could not {{discern}} the times.

I'm too tired to argue bro, but how do you understand the "hour of temptation" or what makes the great tribulation in your eyes.

What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?


The NUMBER ONE next prophecied event to come is the PUBLIC,

WORLD AMAZING REVEALING OF THE FINAL "BEAST"

as per Revelation 13.

Revelation contains enough information to NOW identify this person BY NAME.

[IF you correctly identify the Great Whore,
THEN you can correctly identify the final "beast"]

Other big event to come is the attack on Israel as per Ezekiel 38-39.



Ok, whats his name?
MMarc
QUOTE (1st john 5:11 @ Sep 29 2008, 10:23 PM) *
QUOTE (MMarc @ Sep 28 2008, 10:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 27 2008, 01:45 PM) *
"What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?"

>All of the events of the coming tribulation are contained in the unfulfilled portion of the visions of the Bible prophets

>Look for them yourself, you can find them

>Do you study the scriptures much on this subject?

>I doubt that you do, otherwise you could answer your own question

>The details are many and recorded exactly as they will take place

>And very significant events presented in order


I've been telling you the great trib has been at hand as the signs of the saints being martyred all over the world.

Now you don't answer my question because you don't know?

I asked you what signs in the world you need to prove to you (not me) that would start the great trib.

What are YOU looking for, I already gave my answer, I just want your take on it.


MMark the great trib has not started and I think almost everyone on this forum for that matter can see and understand that.

What sign will be the begining and one that would be hard to miss by anyone.
Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering....
Now if you see this then get ready for the Great Tribulation to begin. (middle of the week)

As for us we will be in heaven with Christ before this but this is another matter which you are not willing to accept.

Oh and as for tribulation, the body of Christ has been experiencing it from the get go.
There is a difference between the tribulation of this age, and the great tribulation.


Jesus was cut off in the middle of the week of His ministry 3.5 years. He made an end to the offering because no greater offering (animals) could be made and be acceptable to God anymore.

The great trib has not started? Go and tell that to the thousands of saints being martyred thoughout the world as we speak.


MMarc
QUOTE (bonomike @ Sep 29 2008, 01:11 PM) *
QUOTE (John Prewett @ Sep 29 2008, 07:25 AM) *
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 29 2008, 06:57 PM) *
I know what you want, but I will not take the time to argue. Things have been going on for the last 2,000 plus years with conditions like today .... and these things will continue. When the Lord brings His coming judgment of the earth all will know for sure .... the period will have no precedent and will be the greatest upheaval known to mankind. This period will begin without warning and there will be none of the signs and events recorded in scripture until it does.


"without warning" --Don't write that again.

Write "period will begin suddenly."

But don't write "without warning."

Stage presently nearly fully set for end time events.

WARNINGS ABOUND ---------------- WARNINGS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

In scritpture and in the daily news.



If Noah had no warning, then neither will we have warning either.

May we not be found sleeping.

In Christ,

Mike


God told Noah to build an ark, and told Noah "I will only strive with men 120 years".
Jesus said it would be like in the days of Noah....

Noah had plenty of warnings, but nobody believed him....

We've had 120 jubilees to prepare for this "day" we are at the beginning of it NOW.
We must enter the ark and be at peace with Jesus our Sabbath as Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath.
Stephen
"Jesus was cut off in the middle of the week of His ministry 3.5 years. He made an end to the offering because no greater offering (animals) could be made and be acceptable to God anymore"

No .... He was cut off at the end of the 69th week [about 33 A.D.] decreed for national Israel .... the 70th week is still pending

It is the other prince [the little horn] and his people who will disrupt Jewish worship at the temple mount when he invades Israel at the midpoint of the future 70th week
John Prewett
QUOTE (bonomike @ Sep 30 2008, 12:11 AM) *
QUOTE (John Prewett @ Sep 29 2008, 07:25 AM) *
QUOTE (Stephen @ Sep 29 2008, 06:57 PM) *
I know what you want, but I will not take the time to argue. Things have been going on for the last 2,000 plus years with conditions like today .... and these things will continue. When the Lord brings His coming judgment of the earth all will know for sure .... the period will have no precedent and will be the greatest upheaval known to mankind. This period will begin without warning and there will be none of the signs and events recorded in scripture until it does.


"without warning" --Don't write that again.

Write "period will begin suddenly."

But don't write "without warning."

Stage presently nearly fully set for end time events.

WARNINGS ABOUND ---------------- WARNINGS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

In scritpture and in the daily news.



If Noah had no warning, then neither will we have warning either.

May we not be found sleeping.

In Christ,

Mike


Noah had warning. Like a few hundred years to build a boat. Quite a warning.


QUOTE (1st john 5:11 @ Sep 30 2008, 09:33 AM) *
QUOTE (John Prewett @ Sep 28 2008, 03:16 AM) *
QUOTE (MMarc @ Sep 27 2008, 11:25 PM) *
They said the same when Jesus came, they would discern the weather (natural) but could not {{discern}} the times.

I'm too tired to argue bro, but how do you understand the "hour of temptation" or what makes the great tribulation in your eyes.

What events are you looking for, to mark the time of tribulation that has not occured or is not in the world yet?


The NUMBER ONE next prophecied event to come is the PUBLIC,

WORLD AMAZING REVEALING OF THE FINAL "BEAST"

as per Revelation 13.

Revelation contains enough information to NOW identify this person BY NAME.

[IF you correctly identify the Great Whore,
THEN you can correctly identify the final "beast"]

Other big event to come is the attack on Israel as per Ezekiel 38-39.



Ok, whats his name?


John F. Kennedy.


Stephen
Or maybe mickey mouse?
John Prewett
QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 2 2008, 12:03 AM) *
Or maybe mickey mouse?


Your above flippancy reveals you currently have not the slightest grasp of the significance

of the "terrible head wound" to the most highly lifted up [by mass media] person

of our generation who was the only openly Roman Catholic leader of the

single most powerful [and protestant based] nation on earth.

World famous and loved by Europeans.

The many books written regarding the shooting of JFK

testify to the mysteriousness of the event.

Regarding his age [91], God often gives elderly people

extra vitality to do what they are ordained to do.

The world thinks JFK is in the grave becuase

the TV told the world JFK was put in the grave.

Only a very small number of people had first hand

knowledge of what/who was in the casket that was

CLOSED when publicly "viewed."
Stephen
Again you miss the meaning

The first beast of Revelation is a fallen angelic

His "heads" are his human kingdoms that he rules over for Satan

He does not have 7 literal heads



Stephen
Again you miss the meaning

The first beast of Revelation is a fallen angelic

His "heads" are his human kingdoms that he rules over for Satan

He does not have 7 literal heads



John Prewett
QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 2 2008, 11:35 PM) *
Again you miss the meaning


Translation: I disagree with you.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 2 2008, 11:35 PM) *
The first beast of Revelation is a fallen angelic


Revelation says the final "beast" is a "king."

Throuought bible "kings" are MEN/HUMANS.

Rev 17
10and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11"The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.

Note I present the scripture which informs us/me that the final "beast" is a "king."

As opposed to pulling stuff out of thin air.


QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 2 2008, 11:35 PM) *
His "heads" are his human kingdoms that he rules over for Satan


Rev 13
3 I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed
And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast;

..................., and authority over every tribe and people
and tongue and nation was given to him.

........................

8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him,
everyone whose name has not been written .................


The "beast" will at first rule the whole world.

"Beast" will also have 10 special king buddies.

Rev 17
12"The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom,
but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour.
13"These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 2 2008, 11:35 PM) *
He does not have 7 literal heads


We agree on something. Wonderful.
Stephen
The first beast of Revelation is a fallen angelic principality who serves Satan .... the destroying angelic king of the abyss

He will manifest himself in Daniel's little horn, human king of the northern Middle East and become the 8th king himself

The combination of a fallen angelic and a human king

Notice that the little horn appears in Daniel's view of the time of the end, but is not referred to as the little horn in Revelation .... this is because he has become the beast

He will rule with ten other human kings in the Middle East at the time of the end

He ruled over five Middle Eastern dominions for Satan in the ancient past [these are all literal and part of the historical records] and he will rule over two more consecutive dominions at the time of the end

This is why there are seven dominions [heads] and associated human king positions that he rules over for Satan in the set

One must know these things for understanding who the beast is, how this entity has been involved in the ancient past , and what he will be involved in at the time of the end

He is currently in the abyss and he cannot interact with humanity

Satan will be allowed to release him at the beginning of the tribulation period

Abaddon-Apollyon will ultimately incarnate the little horn and will become Satan's mimic

Prewett has not figured this truth out yet and his application to JFK and the RCC is limited by reformation theology

He says that I do not post scripture, but this is not true

I do it all of the time and have over 4,000 posts on this forum that can be verified

I don't for Prewett because he already has a Bible and knows where the scriptures are, but refuses to expand his knowledge and to improve his interpretation to a more correct rendering

His argument to the contrary is just a debating tactic used in place of his ability to substaintate his claims
Adam Weishaupt
I just sincerely do not believe that the angels in heaven are looking at charts and maps like so many of these prophecy charts and timelines. In fact, doesn't Peter tell us that angels are longing to look into certain things in particular?

12 It was revealed to them that they were serving not themselves but you, in the things that have now been announced to you through those who preached the good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look.
1 Peter 1:12

Stephen
"I just sincerely do not believe that the angels in heaven are looking at charts and maps like so many of these prophecy charts and timelines."

I see no relevance to your statement here

Who said that the "angels in heaven" were looking at charts and maps?
Adam Weishaupt
QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 11:20 AM) *
"I just sincerely do not believe that the angels in heaven are looking at charts and maps like so many of these prophecy charts and timelines."

I see no relevance to your statement here

Who said that the "angels in heaven" were looking at charts and maps?

That just made me laugh Stephen. biggrin.gif Thanks.

It is just that there are so many timelines and charts about prophecy out there. I understand the purpose for making these. I am not saying that this is sinful or anything. I am just saying that I believe that the angels have a different approach to prophecy than most of us (or all of us) do. I do not think that the are making new and updated timelines and charts at all. It just seems comical to imagine that.
Stephen
The Lord has the plan and there is a definite time line and time lapse that can be determined from scripture

I believe He wants us to know this

And if determined properly, these things validate the authinticity of the Bible for what it claims to be

There is nothing like it .... nothing

John Prewett
QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
The first beast of Revelation is a fallen angelic principality who
serves Satan .... the destroying angelic king of the abyss


hmmmmmm

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
He will manifest himself in Daniel's little horn,
human king of the northern Middle East and become the 8th king himself


Where in Rev are we told to correlate the "beast" with Daniel's little horn ?

Where in Rev are we told to correlate the "beast" with anything in Daniel ?

Daniel wasn't directed to us. The Revelation is directed to us.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
The combination of a fallen angelic and a human king


Oh. A hybrid.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
Notice that the little horn appears in Daniel's view of the time of the end,
but is not referred to as the little horn in Revelation ....
this is because he has become the beast


And the "end" of the Jewish world [to whom Daniel was directed]

came nearly 2000 years ago.


QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
He will rule with ten other human kings in the Middle East
at the time of the end


Revelation specifies "Middle East" ? Come on Stephen,

be nice, tell me where in Revelation the "Mid East" is specified.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
He ruled over five Middle Eastern dominions for Satan in the ancient past
[these are all literal and part of the historical records] and
he will rule over two more consecutive dominions at the time of the end


Lot here I havn't seen in the Rev.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
This is why there are seven dominions [heads] and
associated human king positions that he rules over for Satan in the set


I see the "seven kings" of Rev 17:10-11.

Don't see that the final "beast" "rules over" the "seven kings".

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
One must know these things for understanding who the beast is,
how this entity has been involved in the ancient past , and
what he will be involved in at the time of the end


Hmmmmmmmmm

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
He is currently in the abyss and he cannot interact with humanity


Well, he is certainly currently out of sight.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
Satan will be allowed to release him at the beginning of the tribulation period


Satan will empower him.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
Abaddon-Apollyon will ultimately incarnate the little horn and
will become Satan's mimic


hmmmmmm

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
Prewett has not figured this truth out yet and
his application to JFK and the RCC
is limited by reformation theology


Yea, Stephen, you got it all figured out.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
He says that I do not post scripture, but this is not true

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
I do it all of the time and have over 4,000 posts on this forum that can be verified

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
I don't for Prewett because he already has a Bible


Used to have fifty or so. Every translation I could find.

Now mostly use "Biblegateway". Amazing technology.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
and knows where the scriptures are, ...


I don't know where some of the scriptures are that you evidently rely on.

Like Revelation scripture telling you to correlate/mix Rev with Daniel.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
but refuses to expand his knowledge and to
improve his interpretation to a more correct rendering


Yea, I just stay hunkered down depending on Jesus and His Revelation.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 3 2008, 09:27 PM) *
His argument to the contrary is just a debating tactic
used in place of his ability to substaintate his claims


hmmmmmmm Stephen, I'm predicting a precise event that the world will see.

Namely JFK's public reappearance.

ONLY this "world amazing" EVENT will "substantiate" my "claims".

BTW- "666" stands for KISSINGER.
Stephen
Your predictions will be wrong

You are looking in the wrong place for the little horn ... and you selection of JFK is unfounded in scripture

He is not there

If you do not know that Daniel has exact visions of the tribulation period and the rise of the little horn who is the first beast of Revelation I can see why you are off track

Better study the O.T. prophets [most every one] and their visions because they add much detail to Revelation's unfolding

In fact Revelation cannot be understood correctly without them
John Prewett
QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 4 2008, 04:28 AM) *
Your predictions will be wrong


Ya know why they have horse races ? Difference of opinion.

If everyone and his brother agreed with me, THEN I would worry.

A prophecy that most people agree will happen, wouldn't be worth making.

By definition, a prophecy that is worth making
is a prediction that nearly all who hear it think cannot/will not occur.

Rev says the world will be "amazed" when they behold the "beast" that
has had a "terrible head wound" and "was, is not, yet will be".
and was "ridden by the Great Whore".

IF I did NOT declare that JFK is the "beast" and will reappear,
THEN I would be guilty of "shrinking back" from truth I plainly see.

World will be "amazed" precisely because for some 45 years
the world has been told that JFK is dead and gone.

stay tuned ! we'll all see.

QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 4 2008, 04:28 AM) *
You are looking in the wrong place for the little horn
... and your selection of JFK is unfounded in scripture He is not there


QUOTE (Stephen @ Oct 4 2008, 04:28 AM) *
If you do not know that Daniel has exact visions of the tribulation period
and the rise of the little horn who is the first beast of Revelation
I can see why you are off track

Better study the O.T. prophets [most every one] and their visions
because they add much detail to Revelation's unfolding

In fact Revelation cannot be understood correctly without them


Your above pretty well sums up why at least on of us is indeed very "off track".
Stephen
"Rev says the world will be "amazed" when they behold the "beast" that
has had a "terrible head wound"


But the 7 heads of the beast are not literal heads .... they symbolize his kingdoms of the past and future

This beast is a fallen angelic and he does not have a "head" that can be wounded

Angelics cannot be killed by ordinary means and it will take the Lord's lake of fire to destroy him

The "healing" will be in the reconstitution of his Middle Eastern dominion when he is released from the abyss

He will be released from the abyss to rule again at the time of the end

The "wounding" was the loss of his fifth Middle Eastern dominion just before the first century

He was imprisoned in the abyss where he cannot interact with humanity just after the loss of his Syrio-Babylonian kingdom [fifth "head"]

The world will be amazed by his presence because he will be the combination of an angelic and a human .... nothing of this known to humans before

This particular fallen angelic has existed from the beginning of creation and he rebelled with Satan long ago

His name in Hebrew and Greek means the "destroyer" ....he is Abaddon-Apollyon, Satan's "anti-christ"

His supernatural powers and abilities bestowed by Satan [his god] will afford him great destructive powers that cannot be stopped by human intervention alone at the time of the end

He had great influence over his human dominions of the Middle East and the related king positions in the ancient past, but his end time visitation will allow for him to actually incarnate the human little horn .... a first [the Lord will allow this by removing restraint against satan and the fallen angelics and by sending strong delusion to a world that refuses to believe the truth about Him]

In this possession he will become the 8th king himself ruling over his divided kingdom with 10 other human kings

"Who is "like" the beast and who can make "war" with him?"

No human effort will stand in his way, if they do he will destroy them

Only the Lord can bring him down .... and He will [Revelation 16,19]
John Prewett
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