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Watcher
My father was told unofficially that he will be losing his job. Has been in sales for over 30 years and with DHL for at least 8. I would ask this community to please pray for them and for me that I am able to help my father in this time of need.

Kind Regards,

Watcher
Looking Up
You bet.
Esteviento
Thewn make website for him....
whirlwind
QUOTE (Watcher @ Sep 25 2008, 05:53 PM) *
My father was told unofficially that he will be losing his job. Has been in sales for over 30 years and with DHL for at least 8. I would ask this community to please pray for them and for me that I am able to help my father in this time of need.

Kind Regards,

Watcher



My husband, who was in sales, lost his job when he was close to retirement age. Too old to be rehired by anyone and too young to retire. It was a very difficult time.

Your father is in my prayers. May God guide him to the place he needs to be.


1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.


Substitute "temptation" with tribulation for He is faithful. I pray the provided path will make itself known quickly. Blessings Watcher.
Here Am I
Dear Watcher, smile.gif

I am praying that God will have mercy on your father, regardless of the negative economic circumstances, that He would provide him continued employment.

"O give thanks unto the LORD; for [he is] good: for his mercy [endureth] for ever." -Psalm 136:1

Esteviento
And who exactly will find it?
Watcher
I thank you for your prays. I am thankful he is a Christian and he places his faith in Jesus Christ. I just wish I was financially able to help take care of him, through Lords blessings my father has been able to help take of my family when I lost my job so I want to be able to help him in return.

I am at a weak point in my life talk about a blow to the gut. I feel that I am losing my faith. I have begun to question everything I know about the bible. Yes I said it I am losing this battle. To many questions have come up most have great answers but for every answer there is a rebuttal of that answer and another rebuttal of that one it is an endless cycle. What is one to do when they see both sides correct? I have found myself snared in the debates in this forum and different studies..call me weak for becoming this way..but we can't all be right.

We are not able to judge anyone here we all follow what we are convicted with, with all of our heart whether we read about it our it was taught to us. I find myself at a cross roads not know which way to go I can go left or I can go right they both have Christ as the building block....or should I go straight not take the path taken not read the commentaries on the verses no more reading what a christian can or can not do.

We all say God knows our heart and He judges the heart....how can we follow our heart when it is full of evil. I am so confused right now I do not know what to do. The debates here have fogged my conscience and I am not longer able to feel the same way about certain things in my life, things by no means should need conviction over. I do not know why I am so quick to leave what I have believed in or change my ideas so quick for a new idea.

This site has proven to be a great building block and stumbling block as well..please pray for me.
Esteviento
If your faith is genuine than why worry?
signet
i am praying for you and all going through this uncertainty. may your faith be tested
as all of us are going to be tested...not one left unchanged by the coming events, and
those now at the door.

i pray that you have a safe place to live and a place that you can declare the Lord Jesus
and pray and praise with your family or friends. church does not need to be big...it
just needs to be you!

Father,

I pray for these that are losing jobs and much more through these times. Please
send a purifying fire and let your beloved children know that they are in the crucible
of your love while the world will fall away...

Bless this one that comes in concern with the father, the security, the future.
Father God, be our father, security and future. I ask this for myself as I understand
the plead to see your righteous right arm encircle us and provide for us, Abba.

We are the sheep of your pasture and we need a shephard. We agree that YOU
are that shephard and ask you in now. Amen
Here Am I
QUOTE (Esteviento @ Sep 25 2008, 06:50 PM) *
And who exactly will find it?


"And ye shall seek me, and find [me], when ye shall search for me with all your heart."
-Jeremiah 29:13

ONLY THEN... smile.gif

Esteviento
Now is the time to collect recompense.

10 days.
Here Am I
QUOTE (Esteviento @ Sep 25 2008, 08:27 PM) *
Now is the time to collect recompense.

10 days.


"Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:"
-Matthew 3:8

John the Baptist is saying, you can repent, and have salvation, but bring me the evidence of your repentance. The evidence is your love from the heart, rather then the deceiving, lying, and combative attitudes that were brought by these lawyers of that day.
chinnam naidu
dear friend watcher it is very bad to hear about you and your father,i am continually praying for your family and can get a new job for your father and also you. my thoughts always with you,you are really a good person and this is your hardtime,please trust fully in jesus and he can take all your hardsips.many times i have no money to feed this children,you see you have kids of 2 to 3 only but i have 55 children and oldaged,i must feed them,i must feed my family,this is lot money we need, but i pray to the lord continually and get support from him and i tell you... you can surely get support from him,please fully trust in him,you put your worries on him today, then satan ran away from your home and from your town.

with love
bro.chinnam naidu
mercy orphanage
india
sharon
Praying for you and your dad..... Don't lose your faith. You can lose all of the material things in your life, but DON"T lose your faith. When we are the weakest, that's when grace is perfected. The best thing to do is to read and study for yourself, and remember, that you have come through a very traumatic experience with this hurricane, and God saw you through it.
lesliefain
Dear Watcher Lifting you and your father to the Lord asking that he surround you both with His peace and with guardian angels all around you both! Everything works for good for those in Christ Jesus. Though the future looks bleak Jesus is able to bring us through. May you cling to him with all the faith you have and believe His word. The time of the end is so very close we can rejoice because our redemption is drawing so very near!! May God bless you and keep you so very close to Him. 1dsz5e4.gif
damo7



To Watcher

hang in there brother you are not alone and i know were you are comming from i was in the same situation you are facing know i left god in 2000 after my divorce were i called out to the church the church shut its door on me even the police officer in civic watch house rang sevral christians in my church asking if one of them would bail me out he felt for me he was a young police officer we got talking as i was in big trouble for what i had done and he did not want me spend my time in a cell every person he rang up watcher said no

this showed him something about us and our faith he said i feel sorry for you bro i spent half the night trying to calm an imate next to me who was trying to end his life i was angry and i had to let go of what i was going threw

the police officers on the night shift were doing ther best they checked on him every 10 min and the police officer who rang on my behalf kept on checking on me he brought me coffee let me out of my cell to watch the tv and talked with me

i left and to be honest i did not want to come back i am a prodical who has come back watcher and i can tell you its hard but i am not looking to the left or to the right or listening to what is being said in this forum i know how evil the heart can be watcher and as a man who is about to be married to a filapino pastor god has really been dealing with me

what i saw in the philippines when i went to visit my fiancee in jan 2008 rocked me i had to walk away and wipe the tears from my eyes watcher god really shook me to the point were i had to surrender some things i was still doubting if it was the right move to come back i was happy living in sin but my old church prayed and had like a prayer vigal my old pastor told me he had to come before god and ask god to forgive him for judging me


god has pulled me through some difficult times and has made sure i have work

what broke me watcher is this little girl we did a healing service in a real poor community this 7yr old came up to me sat on my lap and would not let go off me my fiancee knew her and her family i was a stranger

there homes are nothing like our homes her father begs to feed his family he cant find work and when he does he gets taken advantage off this is what its like for filapinos who are in need of work and living on $1 dollars a day working an 8 hour shift

i had to walk away sevral times as i felt angry i felt hope less and i felt ashamed i dare not tell those that came to the healing service what i earn hear in australia or what i have in my home

thes people give and trust in god they pray trusting that he pulls them threw and puts food on the table


i hear you and i wil contiune to pray over you watcher and i wil pray over your father i am going to put you and your father on our prayer list and i wil contac my fiancee in the philippines and put you and your father on there prayer list


just come before the lord and tell him how you are feeling right now let him minister to you watcher



God bless from damo
happy2Bfree
Yeshua.... provide for this brother and his father. Help his father to find new work. In your name I pray....Amen.
Watcher
Friends and family,


I thank you for all the kind words here. I am glad to see even though we do not agree with each other on some things here that we are willing to help one another. I am thankful for your prayers. I know my family have gone through some tough times and my Savior has pulled me through and taken care of my family. Whether it is in the way of my dad sending me money, people from the church or things of that matter.

This is where my frustration comes in I am not able to financially help my father in his time of need all I can do is pray.

And even now I pray but I do not feel good enough to pray for to my Lord. I have messed up some many times even after given my life to the Lord. I have sinned against my savior, I have made a mockery of what He has done for me so many times. Yet He still listens to my prayers, this is where my problem lies, I want to please the Lord so bad to make up for my mistakes I am willing to do anything. If I need to give up Christmas and Easter I will, if I need to give up certain foods I will, if I need to give up working out and watching TV I will, I mean I may have a hard time giving these things up because I do enjoy them but I am sure I can. I will do these things if that what it takes to please my Lord and let Him know how much I love Him, but I am confused at the fact where is the line between vain worship and true worship legalism and faith. WHAT IS TRUTH!

Even as I type this I sit in sin, I have not taken things to the Lord that I need to. I have such a numbing sensation I can not explain it. I must seek Him today.


Watcher
lesliefain
QUOTE
Even as I type this I sit in sin, I have not taken things to the Lord that I need to. I have such a numbing sensation I can not explain it. I must seek Him today.


Watcher that feeling is a feeling that I think alot of christians are feeling. I have been so depressed this last week and my christian friend in the cities called me yesterday and told me she was feeling the same way and then later yesterday another friend called me and told me he was feeling down and felt like running and hiding for some reason. I feel something bad is coming I have even had bad dreams and I dont ever remember my dreams except for the visions I have had. Know that satan is the accuser and he knows he has a little time left, I think he has been attacking christians very aggressively! And I feel very strongly that something is on the horizon! The reason I am telling you this is it helped me to know I am not the only one feeling so down and to rise up and bind that spirit and cast it off of you. Keep the faith! Stay in His word. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. For we fight not againist flesh and blood but againist fallen angels!
Much love to you in Christ!
sharon
Read the book of Romans when you get a chance, and also Matt. 21,22 and 23. Both have to do with grace and "The Law." Just don't give up your faith.....that justifies you.
Looking Up
Dear friend,

my prayers are with you. I ask the Lord to give you a vision of Him on the cross so that you can give it all to Him even as you see Him nailed to it, because that is what He died for. Not for us to try and make up for our sins, but for them to be removed by His blood, and His death and resurrection, by who He is and by what He did. He has a right to our sins. Did you know? We have no right to them, or any right to make up for them. He died for them. He has a right to have everything we are, and do, laid upon Himself so that He can bear it all away and form Himself in us. We think He was weak on the cross. Not so! He bore the very cross they nailed Him on, while He was still on it, and our sins, and the weakness and corruption of our flesh, and the wickedness of our hearts, and the works of the enemy along with it, too.

What a mightly God we serve!

Be encouraged. Your Lord and Savior is there, able to deliver, from the very depths.
Spirit Filled One
QUOTE (Watcher @ Sep 25 2008, 07:01 PM) *
I thank you for your prays. I am thankful he is a Christian and he places his faith in Jesus Christ. I just wish I was financially able to help take care of him, through Lords blessings my father has been able to help take of my family when I lost my job so I want to be able to help him in return.

I am at a weak point in my life talk about a blow to the gut. I feel that I am losing my faith. I have begun to question everything I know about the bible. Yes I said it I am losing this battle. To many questions have come up most have great answers but for every answer there is a rebuttal of that answer and another rebuttal of that one it is an endless cycle. What is one to do when they see both sides correct? I have found myself snared in the debates in this forum and different studies..call me weak for becoming this way..but we can't all be right.

We are not able to judge anyone here we all follow what we are convicted with, with all of our heart whether we read about it our it was taught to us. I find myself at a cross roads not know which way to go I can go left or I can go right they both have Christ as the building block....or should I go straight not take the path taken not read the commentaries on the verses no more reading what a christian can or can not do.

We all say God knows our heart and He judges the heart....how can we follow our heart when it is full of evil. I am so confused right now I do not know what to do. The debates here have fogged my conscience and I am not longer able to feel the same way about certain things in my life, things by no means should need conviction over. I do not know why I am so quick to leave what I have believed in or change my ideas so quick for a new idea.

This site has proven to be a great building block and stumbling block as well..please pray for me.



Watcher,

Please listen carefully to what Im going to say, because what I will say to you is not my words but certainly instruction from the Holy Spirit!

There is something that the Lord showed me, and continues to show me that is going on in the Christian community, whether it is on this or any forum, or it is in any church or Christian fellowship.

The enemy has sown seeds that are not from the Lord, right here on this forum, as well as in the intimacy of a small christian group that may be in our church or in our own backyard.

You are right when you say that your thinking has become fogged. The reason that it is happening, is that not all teaching and words that you read here or elsewhere are from the Lord, and so when we read words that contradict the truth of the Gospel of Christ, we may just be deceived.

Sometimes the things that we read are things that so closely resemble what Christ teaches, that we hold on to those teachings and then as we store all of these things in our minds, we cant tell the wheat from the tares (so to speak).

Not only are some things that we are reading here in direct conflict with the Truth that Jesus gave us, but what these things that we read can do, is to take our attention off of the Lord Jesus and put it on all of this other stuff that Jesus never intended for us to be focusing on.

An example of this: When I first came to this forum I noticed a theme that certainly continues today, and that is that there are a number of people here that arent as intersted in proclaiming Christ or giving Him glory and honor by putting their time in prayer requests or speaking things that truly edify in some way, but instead are bent on spreading paranoia and fear, and bringing a constant stream of information of the lost world into the forum!

Information like: Marshal law is coming soon!! and The U.S. economy is quickly coming undone!,
The government is watching us through our cell phones!! The devil was really the tree in the garden of eden!!
People are really the tree's in the garden of eden!, The serpent and Eve had sex!, The Bible code says that the bride is now wearing glasses!, Washington mutual collapse is biggest in US history!,
What the big bailout means!, Bush still risking GOd's wrath on our nation!, The new temple of Jerusalem can finally be built!, The coming 1 world currency!, All men didnt come from Adam!!!!
The coming RFID chip!,

All of these things, are things that focus on the world and all that it is going through! Also, these things are not to be given attention by the Child of God because the Lord never anywhere in scripture tells us to become involved, worried or to pay close attention to any of them!

This is just the tip of all of the meaningless stuff here on this forum!

The Lord tells us not to be shaken in our mind and not to be troubled. He tells us to not worry but to trust in Him.
Isaiah 26:3
You will keep him in perfect peace, Whose mind is stayed on You,Because he trusts in You.

Matt 14:28 And Peter answered Him and said, “Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the water.” 29 So He said, “Come.” And when Peter had come down out of the boat, he walked on the water to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw that the wind was boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink he cried out, saying, “Lord, save me!”

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear,


See these scripture verses? They all have something in common. They all show us that it is when we have our eyes fixed (like a gazing stare) on the Lord Jesus, we have no fear, and are in fact at perfect peace.

What this is saying is that when we come to a place like this forum and allow all of the many voices (that are not the shepherds voice) to get our attention, we become fearful and begin to sink, just like Peter took his eyes off of the Savior and saw the boisterous waves, and was afraid!!

Then, he (like you) cried out to the Lord to save him.

2 Cor 4:16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

How are we renewed? Certainly not by reading the endless plethora of info found on this forum, but we are renewed by reading the Word, as it is written:

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

Ephesians 5:25-26
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,


It is by staying in the Word of God and by being guided by the Holy Spirit as we ask the Lord to guide us:

Luke 11:13
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

It is all about staying in the Word of God as He washes us and cleanses us and purifies us and renews us! And as we ask Him, He will freely give us His Spirit!


Also, If you are being convicted about television and movies and too much time doing un-edifying things that are just feeding the flesh, then stop putting your time into those things.
When we feed this flesh so much, it further clouds our thinking because then we strengthen the fleshly mind which the Bible tells us lusts against the Spirit because the Spirit and the flesh are contrary to one another.


Im certainly not surprised to see someone confused as they come to this forum, Its not surprising that you feel the way that you do. But here is something that will surely help you.

Get away from this forum and get off of the tv and movies for 1 week. Begin to read the book of Luke and as you read, ask Jesus to speak to you and give you understanding and to strengthen you and to fill you with His Holy Spirit.

As you read, you will find that the Lord will give you other verses to check out in other books os the Bible, by all means, read them and their context!

If you do all this, you will again have peace and know that the foundation on which you stand is Christ and Christ alone!!

Blessings to you In CHrist Alone!
Chris
Looking Up
^^

That is very practical and sage advice.

I know from experience it's too easy to get "caught up" in things that do not profit. If something is hindering your walk with God, then discard it, and move on. Sometimes we have to make a conscious decision to turn everything off, get in our closet, and drill back down to the basics and return to our first love and let God deal with the business of running the world.

Jesus continuously sought solace and time alone with the Father. We are never greater than our Master, and need to follow His example.
Watcher
QUOTE
Also, If you are being convicted about television and movies and too much time doing un-edifying things that are just feeding the flesh, then stop putting your time into those things.
When we feed this flesh so much, it further clouds our thinking because then we strengthen the fleshly mind which the Bible tells us lusts against the Spirit because the Spirit and the flesh are contrary to one another.


Thank you so much for your input. I have never been to a Christian forum before, once I came here... I realized how jacked up we really are..its no wonder the world thinks we are crazy.

Before any body gets the wrong idea...I am not feeding my fleshly desire daily...I do my best to die to my sins daily. I it more of the I guess the disputable matters that I have fallen in trapped with. Things that have never bothered me before I know question if I am right or wrong. If you find yourself unsure that leads to uncertainty and it snowballs from there. You start looking for anything that is not the norm for Christianity and I am not referring to taking advantage of grace..even though I have found myself doing that very thing at times..but I rush so quickly to what I have never heard before..I think the problem is that I have never made what I believe my own. I grew up in the Church went to private schools with varying denominations and went to another church on Sundays that was different from there. So I have always just been in this belief of Christianity. I do not think I have completely made it my own yet..even though I am adult..I find myself very much a child still in my belief..just when I thought I could not learn more. I realize that I truly know nothing.
HeIsFaithful
dear watcher..

spiritfilledone (and others) have given you great advice...

i want to suggest.. FIRST .. it's not WHAT you believe in .. it's WHO you believe in...

many people say they believe in Jesus.. but not all KNOW Him.

Make this your FIRST goal.. it is only done thru HIS word and prayer.. the Holy Spirit will attend both when you do it for the purpose of knowing
Him..

this is NOT an easy road.. but as signet has said.. your journey is not in vain.

and.. it's NOT something that happens in an hour, a day, a month.. it was meant to be a life long journey..

HE IS FAITHFUL!!! and He is seeking those who worship Him in spirit and truth..

no.. you are not perfect.. none of us are.. but ohhhhhhh the heart desire to be so! .. that is what the Lord wants..
and HE will give you desire..

seek .. seek... seek...

our relationship with Him should not depend on anything else but the Spirit of God..

pray.. pray... pray.... and seek him thru His word!

and TRUST Him most of all... even if He slay you! .. HE is worthy of that kind of faith!

I will pray for you.. as I do our other brothers and sisters here..

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh how HE loves YOU!!!

Love in Him
Cheryl
Grace1st
i pray that your father will find his way, the the job loss wont cause hardships in that he will find something new.
happy2Bfree
QUOTE (SpiritFilledOne @ Sep 26 2008, 12:30 PM) *
QUOTE (Watcher @ Sep 25 2008, 07:01 PM) *
I thank you for your prays. I am thankful he is a Christian and he places his faith in Jesus Christ. I just wish I was financially able to help take care of him, through Lords blessings my father has been able to help take of my family when I lost my job so I want to be able to help him in return.

I am at a weak point in my life talk about a blow to the gut. I feel that I am losing my faith. I have begun to question everything I know about the bible. Yes I said it I am losing this battle. To many questions have come up most have great answers but for every answer there is a rebuttal of that answer and another rebuttal of that one it is an endless cycle. What is one to do when they see both sides correct? I have found myself snared in the debates in this forum and different studies..call me weak for becoming this way..but we can't all be right.

We are not able to judge anyone here we all follow what we are convicted with, with all of our heart whether we read about it our it was taught to us. I find myself at a cross roads not know which way to go I can go left or I can go right they both have Christ as the building block....or should I go straight not take the path taken not read the commentaries on the verses no more reading what a christian can or can not do.

We all say God knows our heart and He judges the heart....how can we follow our heart when it is full of evil. I am so confused right now I do not know what to do. The debates here have fogged my conscience and I am not longer able to feel the same way about certain things in my life, things by no means should need conviction over. I do not know why I am so quick to leave what I have believed in or change my ideas so quick for a new idea.

This site has proven to be a great building block and stumbling block as well..please pray for me.



Watcher,

Please listen carefully to what Im going to say, because what I will say to you is not my words but certainly instruction from the Holy Spirit!

There is something that the Lord showed me, and continues to show me that is going on in the Christian community, whether it is on this or any forum, or it is in any church or Christian fellowship.

The enemy has sown seeds that are not from the Lord, right here on this forum, as well as in the intimacy of a small christian group that may be in our church or in our own backyard.

You are right when you say that your thinking has become fogged. The reason that it is happening, is that not all teaching and words that you read here or elsewhere are from the Lord, and so when we read words that contradict the truth of the Gospel of Christ, we may just be deceived.

Sometimes the things that we read are things that so closely resemble what Christ teaches, that we hold on to those teachings and then as we store all of these things in our minds, we cant tell the wheat from the tares (so to speak).

Not only are some things that we are reading here in direct conflict with the Truth that Jesus gave us, but what these things that we read can do, is to take our attention off of the Lord Jesus and put it on all of this other stuff that Jesus never intended for us to be focusing on.

An example of this: When I first came to this forum I noticed a theme that certainly continues today, and that is that there are a number of people here that arent as intersted in proclaiming Christ or giving Him glory and honor by putting their time in prayer requests or speaking things that truly edify in some way, but instead are bent on spreading paranoia and fear, and bringing a constant stream of information of the lost world into the forum!

Information like: Marshal law is coming soon!! and The U.S. economy is quickly coming undone!,
The government is watching us through our cell phones!! The devil was really the tree in the garden of eden!!
People are really the tree's in the garden of eden!, The serpent and Eve had sex!, The Bible code says that the bride is now wearing glasses!, Washington mutual collapse is biggest in US history!,
What the big bailout means!, Bush still risking GOd's wrath on our nation!, The new temple of Jerusalem can finally be built!, The coming 1 world currency!, All men didnt come from Adam!!!!
The coming RFID chip!,

All of these things, are things that focus on the world and all that it is going through! Also, these things are not to be given attention by the Child of God because the Lord never anywhere in scripture tells us to become involved, worried or to pay close attention to any of them!

This is just the tip of all of the meaningless stuff here on this forum!

The Lord tells us not to be shaken in our mind and not to be troubled. He tells us to not worry but to trust in Him.
Isaiah 26:3
You will keep him in perfect peace, Whose mind is stayed on You,Because he trusts in You.

Matt 14:28 And Peter answered Him and said, "Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the water." 29 So He said, "Come." And when Peter had come down out of the boat, he walked on the water to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw that the wind was boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink he cried out, saying, "Lord, save me!"

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear,


See these scripture verses? They all have something in common. They all show us that it is when we have our eyes fixed (like a gazing stare) on the Lord Jesus, we have no fear, and are in fact at perfect peace.

What this is saying is that when we come to a place like this forum and allow all of the many voices (that are not the shepherds voice) to get our attention, we become fearful and begin to sink, just like Peter took his eyes off of the Savior and saw the boisterous waves, and was afraid!!

Then, he (like you) cried out to the Lord to save him.

2 Cor 4:16 Therefore we do not lose heart. Even though our outward man is perishing, yet the inward man is being renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

How are we renewed? Certainly not by reading the endless plethora of info found on this forum, but we are renewed by reading the Word, as it is written:

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

Ephesians 5:25-26
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,


It is by staying in the Word of God and by being guided by the Holy Spirit as we ask the Lord to guide us:

Luke 11:13
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!"

It is all about staying in the Word of God as He washes us and cleanses us and purifies us and renews us! And as we ask Him, He will freely give us His Spirit!


Also, If you are being convicted about television and movies and too much time doing un-edifying things that are just feeding the flesh, then stop putting your time into those things.
When we feed this flesh so much, it further clouds our thinking because then we strengthen the fleshly mind which the Bible tells us lusts against the Spirit because the Spirit and the flesh are contrary to one another.


Im certainly not surprised to see someone confused as they come to this forum, Its not surprising that you feel the way that you do. But here is something that will surely help you.

Get away from this forum and get off of the tv and movies for 1 week. Begin to read the book of Luke and as you read, ask Jesus to speak to you and give you understanding and to strengthen you and to fill you with His Holy Spirit.

As you read, you will find that the Lord will give you other verses to check out in other books os the Bible, by all means, read them and their context!

If you do all this, you will again have peace and know that the foundation on which you stand is Christ and Christ alone!!

Blessings to you In CHrist Alone!
Chris


And it is always the same ones who are engaged in those kind of topics.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS



God is mindful of all our needs and will not forsake His own.

You and your father have my prayers that the Lord will aid you during this time.

Ten years ago when my mother died from cancer and I was left penniless, I faced eviction notices each month, work as a starving artist was very slow and dismal, yet God sustained me through ALL of it. When it seemed my darkest hour of doom had arrived, SUDDENLY, God came through with a miracle... the phone would ring and someone had work for me... out of the blue... a check written in my name even arrived in the mail from my mother's former employer for her unpaid vacation 2 years after her death, and the check was for the exact amount to avoid an eviction scheduled 2 days later... angels even came dressed as "security guards" (God's Security) to tell me that everything will be alright... one time an angel came to me and asked, “Why do you worry?” Don't worry, your rent will be paid", and 2 days later the phone rang and I was given a job the next day and the employer felt mysteriously lead to give me a $1,000 cash advance (without even doing any work! I cried.) which was enough to pay my rent and electric bill... at one point I got behind in my rent for 3 months which was the limit my landlord would allow, and then out of the blue a mother answered my add for a roommate for her daughter who was starting the following week at the university... the daughter was scheduled to live in the dorms on campus, but SUDDENLY they discovered that she had dropped of the system and had no place to live... the parents flew down from the San Francisco Bay Area to Southern California, came over and instantly fell in love with my home and signed their daughter, Sharon, up immediately and their financial background cleared with flying colors by the management company, and all the deposits and rent they paid was enough to pull me out of the red... that night in my sleep the Lord gave me a marvelous dream confirming the deed of His Hand and the miracle where I saw a young ballet ingénue on stage ready to perform and she faltered, I was sitting in the front row and I quickly helped her up and said, "No one even noticed." Then the curtains parted and there was this magnificent army of adolescent angels arrayed in golden robes as background singers... and they had no weapons for their Song was their weapon, and they sang these words, "Everything's better than what it was before! Everything's better than what it was before! Everything's better than what it was before!" I awoke smiling and feeling so blessed. And when, Sharon, the roommate moved in the next week is when I finally got to met her and she was a ballet ingénue majoring in the ballet arts!

Moral of the story: Have FAITH, believe and TRUST in the Lord, for He is your Shepard, He knows all your needs, and will provide. Above all, have patience; I call Him "The God of the Last Minute", for that is when He always acts, at the last minute, for He is strengthening our TRUST in Him, just as when the Angel of Jehovah stayed the hand of Abraham AT THE LAST MINUTE when God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac.

Blessings...

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lesliefain
Awesome testimony!! Thank you for sharing it seven thunders! God is so wonderful!!!
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (lesliefain @ Sep 27 2008, 08:43 AM) *
Awesome testimony!! Thank you for sharing it seven thunders! God is so wonderful!!!



Yes! Yes! Father God and Christ our Lord are MAGNIFICENT!

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chinnam naidu
hello watcher, your father get job?or not please let me know ,i am praying for him and you.
sharon
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 27 2008, 01:38 AM) *



God is mindful of all our needs and will not forsake His own.

You and your father have my prayers that the Lord will aid you during this time.

Ten years ago when my mother died from cancer and I was left penniless, I faced eviction notices each month, work as a starving artist was very slow and dismal, yet God sustained me through ALL of it. When it seemed my darkest hour of doom had arrived, SUDDENLY, God came through with a miracle... the phone would ring and someone had work for me... out of the blue... a check written in my name even arrived in the mail from my mother's former employer for her unpaid vacation 2 years after her death, and the check was for the exact amount to avoid an eviction scheduled 2 days later... angels even came dressed as "security guards" (God's Security) to tell me that everything will be alright... one time an angel came to me and asked, “Why do you worry?” Don't worry, your rent will be paid", and 2 days later the phone rang and I was given a job the next day and the employer felt mysteriously lead to give me a $1,000 cash advance (without even doing any work! I cried.) which was enough to pay my rent and electric bill... at one point I got behind in my rent for 3 months which was the limit my landlord would allow, and then out of the blue a mother answered my add for a roommate for her daughter who was starting the following week at the university... the daughter was scheduled to live in the dorms on campus, but SUDDENLY they discovered that she had dropped of the system and had no place to live... the parents flew down from the San Francisco Bay Area to Southern California, came over and instantly fell in love with my home and signed their daughter, Sharon, up immediately and their financial background cleared with flying colors by the management company, and all the deposits and rent they paid was enough to pull me out of the red... that night in my sleep the Lord gave me a marvelous dream confirming the deed of His Hand and the miracle where I saw a young ballet ingénue on stage ready to perform and she faltered, I was sitting in the front row and I quickly helped her up and said, "No one even noticed." Then the curtains parted and there was this magnificent army of adolescent angels arrayed in golden robes as background singers... and they had no weapons for their Song was their weapon, and they sang these words, "Everything's better than what it was before! Everything's better than what it was before! Everything's better than what it was before!" I awoke smiling and feeling so blessed. And when, Sharon, the roommate moved in the next week is when I finally got to met her and she was a ballet ingénue majoring in the ballet arts!

Moral of the story: Have FAITH, believe and TRUST in the Lord, for He is your Shepard, He knows all your needs, and will provide. Above all, have patience; I call Him "The God of the Last Minute", for that is when He always acts, at the last minute, for He is strengthening our TRUST in Him, just as when the Angel of Jehovah stayed the hand of Abraham AT THE LAST MINUTE when God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac.

Blessings...

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Seven, these are the kind of miracles that have always happened to me and my kids. I once had to travel two freeways, for an hour each way to get to my job as a staff accountant. I only got paid every other Friday, and by the time pay-day came around, I barely has enough gas to get to the job. One Thursday afternoon, I realized I didn't have enough gas to get home, and that my 8-year-old daughter would be coming home to an empty apartment, and I had no cash or credit cards.

I pulled over at an ATM near downtown Portland, and tried to check my bank balance to see if I could withdraw a twenty dollar bill. There was only $8.00 left in my account, so I was stuck. I started to cry and then reverted to prayer.....as I retreived my card from the ATM slot, I noticed the edge of a bill sticking out of the money slot right below it. IT WAS A TWENTY DOLLAR BILL THAT HAD BEEN LEFT THERE BY SOMEBODY BEFORE ME!! I thanked God and the person who left this bill and got myself home.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (sharon @ Sep 28 2008, 12:17 PM) *
Seven, these are the kind of miracles that have always happened to me and my kids. I once had to travel two freeways, for an hour each way to get to my job as a staff accountant. I only got paid every other Friday, and by the time pay-day came around, I barely has enough gas to get to the job. One Thursday afternoon, I realized I didn't have enough gas to get home, and that my 8-year-old daughter would be coming home to an empty apartment, and I had no cash or credit cards.

I pulled over at an ATM near downtown Portland, and tried to check my bank balance to see if I could withdraw a twenty dollar bill. There was only $8.00 left in my account, so I was stuck. I started to cry and then reverted to prayer.....as I retreived my card from the ATM slot, I noticed the edge of a bill sticking out of the money slot right below it. IT WAS A TWENTY DOLLAR BILL THAT HAD BEEN LEFT THERE BY SOMEBODY BEFORE ME!! I thanked God and the person who left this bill and got myself home.


Sharon... PRAISE JESUS!!!! What a marvelous account... the part that always amazes me is how God ORCHESTRATES EVERYTHING and the TIMING to the MINUTEST DETAILS envolving countless factors and even other people, how He sets things in motion WAY BEFORE your need even materialized so that ultimately in the end there is a SYNCHRONIZATION for fulfilling the need. IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!

Blessings!

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