THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 23 2008, 03:46 AM
Reversed Jonas Brother song reveals Disney's “Satanic Message”Though having started out "Christian", have the JBs "sold out" to Satan? It appears so... that they're singing to the beat of a different "master".
The Hidden Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5RAWlyrJs
The actual Jonas Brothers/Disney Machine song and video is entitled “Kids of the Future”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3zHbWjlUsw
This is a weird plagiarized rip-off from Kim Wilde’s 80s song “Kids in America”; how strange that the “Kids in America” have been converted into Satan’s “Kids of the Future”, clearly an indication of seduction of America’s children by Satan and a psychological conditioning for their spiritual allegiance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWZqllm3mQ
-7
Here Am I
Sep 23 2008, 07:01 AM
JONAS BROTHERS ARE FOR LORD SATAN
(Don't miss the interview!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgtGmDS750
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 23 2008, 07:13 PM
Hi, HAI...
Interesting spoof. I think these are put on YouTube to confuse people from knowing the "hidden truth", and to belittle those attempting to unveil the Truth. We have to weed throw such parodies. Thanks for posting such a superb example of the Enemy's craft and attempt to pull the wool over our eyes, and thanks for alerting us to be more vigilant of such craft.
-7
LemuelReyes
Sep 24 2008, 01:54 AM
Normally I wouldn't believe what you just posted but I have a software program that reverses songs. So I downloaded the kids of the future song by Jonas Brothers and played it in reverse, what i got was bone chilling. IT IS TRUE.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 24 2008, 02:58 AM
QUOTE (LemuelReyes @ Sep 24 2008, 01:54 AM)

Normally I wouldn't believe what you just posted but I have a software program that reverses songs. So I downloaded the kids of the future song by Jonas Brothers and played it in reverse, what i got was bone chilling. IT IS TRUE.
Thanks, LR, for the confirmation.
I suspected it was true by reading the sincere background on the poster who posted it and examining his other YouTube posts, and I could tell he was a genuine Christian man very earnest it getting the word out and exposing Satan's hidden work.
-7
burningfire
Sep 24 2008, 12:59 PM
Yeah that was pretty freaky. I showed my wife and she was freaked out by it. Just to think that this is Disney and is aimed at children and young teenagers. How do people know about these "hidden messages." I think it would be pretty hard to just stumble upon them, right?
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 24 2008, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (burningfire @ Sep 24 2008, 12:59 PM)

Yeah that was pretty freaky. I showed my wife and she was freaked out by it. Just to think that this is Disney and is aimed at children and young teenagers. How do people know about these "hidden messages." I think it would be pretty hard to just stumble upon them, right?
Boy, you said it, "freaky" is an understatement. There are people out there that search for this stuff, knowing that "profound popularity" is a dead-giveaway of Satan's involvement, while anything truly of God and Christ will be HATED in the world.
I'm a creative individual, and have noticed that you have to be extremely careful in what you create because Satan and the Demonic Nature can influence the outcome, no matter how "benign" the final outcome may appear on the surface, and despite if you are Christian or not.
-7
whirlwind
Sep 24 2008, 03:33 PM
Seven....what is your avatar?
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 24 2008, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (whirlwind @ Sep 24 2008, 03:33 PM)

Seven....what is your avatar?
It's a man being empowered by God. Why do you ask?
whirlwind
Sep 24 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 24 2008, 03:54 PM)

QUOTE (whirlwind @ Sep 24 2008, 03:33 PM)

Seven....what is your avatar?
It's a man being empowered by God. Why do you ask?
I guess it's just that my eyes aren't as good as they used to be but I can't see it clearly. Each time I see it I wonder....what is that? I see an inner light shining out but can't make out the form.
By the way....I just forwarded the reversed Jonas brothers to my two daughters. They both have young teens right at the Mylee Cyrus and Jonas Brothers age.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 24 2008, 07:29 PM
The Jonas Brothers’ logo with its crest encapsulated “JB” looks like the number “13”. According to authors Bullinger & Vallowe, the number 13 represents Depravity & Rebellion (1 + 3 = 4). However, in Judaism the number 13 is the number for LOVE ~ this may be true in that the "Love" chapter in the New Testament is 1 Corinthians chapter "13," and with Jesus and His disciples there would have been 13! Because of 1 Cor. 13, and the number of Jesus & His apostles, I am inclined to agree with Judaism that the number 13 is the number for Love. As stated above, a number has both a positive aspect and a negative aspect. In this case, the positive aspect of the number 13 is LOVE, and the negative aspect is LACK OF LOVE, or Depravity & Rebellion!
-7
IAMlives
Sep 25 2008, 05:06 AM
7 or anyone else, would you mind typing some of what the song says when it's reversed? (on dial-up here, can't load videos and takes too long to download music)...thanks!
(((@ ListeningPrayer @)))
Sep 25 2008, 06:19 AM
Hiya
There's a low growling voice which distinctly says "Satan" a number of times. I think there's more but I don't want to listen again! Plus there was a clip of an interview with this death metaller (Satanic v. heavy metal) who said that Christians needed to be wiped out etc. and his band had been doing this low growling stuff (common to death metal) and when the Jonas Brother's was reversed it sounded like the death metal normally. So the messages are very subliminal in there. I think as well that one of the u tube things was saying that the death metal band was tied to Jonas bros somehow and that they were going after young girls because they want to get one to bear the antichrist. They worship Satan and think that he means "freedom" to them. The guy who spoke had a very demonic countenance.
Subliminal messages have been in pop music for a long time. I wonder how much there is in other music which we just haven't tried listening to backwards.
+Shine4Him+ logged in as dh
Adeline
Sep 25 2008, 08:19 AM
Kim,
I refuse to capitilize that little germs name but I will post what the hidden message is:
"satan, satan
I speak for satan
satan, satan
Our sweet forsakan
satan, satan, satan
I speak for satan
satan, satan."
I just don't understand how music can have such hidden messages and codes.
Gods Blessings,
Al
Adeline
Sep 25 2008, 08:29 AM
QUOTE (burningfire @ Sep 24 2008, 12:59 PM)

Yeah that was pretty freaky. I showed my wife and she was freaked out by it. Just to think that this is Disney and is aimed at children and young teenagers. How do people know about these "hidden messages." I think it would be pretty hard to just stumble upon them, right?
Welcome to the forum. Disney is one of the greatest deceptions of all..so many hidden messages in the logos of Disney. This link I am going to post will take you to a thread authored by Here Am I , which will show you the ongoing deceptions of all time. These deceptions are to usher in kids for a new world order.
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=17569I personally have a difficult time believing in these schemes but the evidence is overwhelming. It also does no good to blow off satan, he may be a little germ but he isn't stupid. satan is out to ruin as many of our kids lives as he can. It also does us well to remember that satan is into mind control and once our kids are brainwashed it becomes very difficult to de-program them.
In Christian Love,
Al
whirlwind
Sep 25 2008, 09:09 AM
QUOTE (Adeline @ Sep 25 2008, 08:29 AM)

I personally have a difficult time believing in these schemes but the evidence is overwhelming. It also does no good to blow off satan, he may be a little germ but he isn't stupid. satan is out to ruin as many of our kids lives as he can. It also does us well to remember that satan is into mind control and once our kids are brainwashed it becomes very difficult to de-program them.
In Christian Love,
Al
"
A little GERM" I have never heard him called that before but......
happy2Bfree
Sep 25 2008, 09:11 AM
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 23 2008, 06:01 AM)

JONAS BROTHERS ARE FOR LORD SATAN
(Don't miss the interview!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgtGmDS750 I believe that what is going on is an attack at these boys because of their beliefs.
We are on a forum. Non of us know (for sure) who is really on this forum "pretending" to be a Christian and actually giving out false info.
Anne...
The group that is displayed in that video are not the Jonas Brothers in question. The one that is talked about is a Satanic group.
The Jonas brothers were not even born yet when that group put their music out.
And Jonas brothers do not play dark music.
You cannot believe everything on see and hear on YOUTUBE.
Youtube is not the gospel. There is false information that goes out on the net to attack others. And people use youtube for much of it.
I am more bothered that some of you are displaying satanic music on a Christian forum for anyone to hear. Do you realize that your giving Satan an open doorway by doing that? I had to turn the sound off because
I didn't want to hear it.
............................................................................
It is not like me to defend anyone in the television or movie industry...or even the music industry. I don't get "into" what these people do in their lives.
However.... these boys have been under attack because of the standards that they uphold.
Their father is a Christian minister of the Gospel.
My girls are the same age as Mylee Cyrus and the Jonas brothers. I have heard their music.
It is not Satanic.
Do you know that the Jonas brothers also have been putting out the message that it is good to wait to have sex?
They believe in marriage first before sex.
And two of the brothers say that their most treasured item is their Bible.
I wouldn't normally know this kind of thing...but when my girls went on a trip this summer.... they wanted a couple magazines to read for fun. So I bought them a couple and one had an article about the Jonas brothers. I read a little about them and was impressed.
I have to say this...
It is also a sin to engage in rumors and lies that slander others without really knowing for sure that it is true.
And its always the same ones involved.
Levite-7
Sep 25 2008, 09:43 AM
hi~
by the Word of the LORD, if awareness of existing evil is brought forth before us, it shall stand as a warning of what not to do - do not do what they do, neither give evil power. will the LORD in heaven allow such in His sight?
regarding the Jonas Brothers, whether they be good or evil is for none of us to have any part to judge - leave that for the LORD. the above evidence may point to them as doing things that rebel against the Word of the most Holy, but keep in mind that if they are brought into the Law, they shall be judged by the Law ~ their words, actions & sins shall be matched against the Book of Life. if they are what they claim, then no worries, but if they - by subtlety - seek to cause others to rebel against God knowingly & willingly, then so be it ~ fiery indignation shall be their reward.
@Chloe ~ be at ease, cling to the LORD with all your heart & you can walk through the very depths of hell itself without fear. worship the LORD & evil shall flee away & be scattered seven ways.
happy2Bfree
Sep 25 2008, 01:36 PM
Thank you Levite for that reminder. That was good.
Shalom
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 25 2008, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 25 2008, 09:11 AM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 23 2008, 06:01 AM)

JONAS BROTHERS ARE FOR LORD SATAN
(Don't miss the interview!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgtGmDS750 I believe that what is going on is an attack at these boys because of their beliefs.
We are on a forum. Non of us know (for sure) who is really on this forum "pretending" to be a Christian and actually giving out false info.
Anne...
The group that is displayed in that video are not the Jonas Brothers in question. The one that is talked about is a Satanic group.
The Jonas brothers were not even born yet when that group put their music out.
And Jonas brothers do not play dark music.
You cannot believe everything on see and hear on YOUTUBE.
Youtube is not the gospel. There is false information that goes out on the net to attack others. And people use youtube for much of it.
I am more bothered that some of you are displaying satanic music on a Christian forum for anyone to hear. Do you realize that your giving Satan an open doorway by doing that? I had to turn the sound off because
I didn't want to hear it.
............................................................................
It is not like me to defend anyone in the television or movie industry...or even the music industry. I don't get "into" what these people do in their lives.
However.... these boys have been under attack because of the standards that they uphold.
Their father is a Christian minister of the Gospel.
My girls are the same age as Mylee Cyrus and the Jonas brothers. I have heard their music.
It is not Satanic.
Do you know that the Jonas brothers also have been putting out the message that it is good to wait to have sex?
They believe in marriage first before sex.
And two of the brothers say that their most treasured item is their Bible.
I wouldn't normally know this kind of thing...but when my girls went on a trip this summer.... they wanted a couple magazines to read for fun. So I bought them a couple and one had an article about the Jonas brothers. I read a little about them and was impressed.
I have to say this...
It is also a sin to engage in rumors and lies that slander others without really knowing for sure that it is true.
And its always the same ones involved.
Chloe... The video posted by HAI is a YouTube poster's "spoof" on the Jonas Brothers, on the video that I initially posted here on the Forum. The spoof video is poking fun and ridiculing the original "unmasking" video of the YouTube poster, which is genuine and reveals the hidden satanic message in the Jonas Brother's song "Kids of the Future"... the satanic message is REAL. The spoof attempts to discount it. HAI was merely revealing how Satan layers a lie over those attempting to expose his cunning craft.
Also, may your children beware of the hidden messages in Malee Cyrus's songs of "selling your love" and "prostituting your flesh". These are the subliminal messages in her songs.
It doesn't matter if these people are Christian; it's all part of the "Falling Away" of the Church, and Satan will take full advantage of it.
-7
Here Am I
Sep 25 2008, 04:28 PM
What is the appropriate response to a mother/father who turns over the development of their child to the Disney corporation? What is the appropriate response to someone who repeatedly denies the obvious and dismisses all those who try to open their eyes to truth?
Christian moms and dads: Don't allow your children to be mind-controlled by the satanic influence of Disney. Do not allow the Disney channel into your home, or your children to be subjected to "rock" ... anything! Rock and pop music, and the idolization of these music artists have no place in a Christian home. Teach your children to come out of the world's entertainment system. Don't just look the other way in blind acceptance, and defend the abomination of this wicked entertainment. You are allowing the power of satan in the lives of your children, and you will be held accountable by God.
Don't be naive to what is going on around you. Protect yourself and your family from the ways of the world and turn your attention to Christ. Wake up!
happy2Bfree
Sep 25 2008, 10:11 PM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 25 2008, 03:10 PM)

QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 25 2008, 09:11 AM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 23 2008, 06:01 AM)

JONAS BROTHERS ARE FOR LORD SATAN
(Don't miss the interview!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgtGmDS750 I believe that what is going on is an attack at these boys because of their beliefs.
We are on a forum. Non of us know (for sure) who is really on this forum "pretending" to be a Christian and actually giving out false info.
Anne...
The group that is displayed in that video are not the Jonas Brothers in question. The one that is talked about is a Satanic group.
The Jonas brothers were not even born yet when that group put their music out.
And Jonas brothers do not play dark music.
You cannot believe everything on see and hear on YOUTUBE.
Youtube is not the gospel. There is false information that goes out on the net to attack others. And people use youtube for much of it.
I am more bothered that some of you are displaying satanic music on a Christian forum for anyone to hear. Do you realize that your giving Satan an open doorway by doing that? I had to turn the sound off because
I didn't want to hear it.
............................................................................
It is not like me to defend anyone in the television or movie industry...or even the music industry. I don't get "into" what these people do in their lives.
However.... these boys have been under attack because of the standards that they uphold.
Their father is a Christian minister of the Gospel.
My girls are the same age as Mylee Cyrus and the Jonas brothers. I have heard their music.
It is not Satanic.
Do you know that the Jonas brothers also have been putting out the message that it is good to wait to have sex?
They believe in marriage first before sex.
And two of the brothers say that their most treasured item is their Bible.
I wouldn't normally know this kind of thing...but when my girls went on a trip this summer.... they wanted a couple magazines to read for fun. So I bought them a couple and one had an article about the Jonas brothers. I read a little about them and was impressed.
I have to say this...
It is also a sin to engage in rumors and lies that slander others without really knowing for sure that it is true.
And its always the same ones involved.
Chloe... The video posted by HAI is a YouTube poster's "spoof" on the Jonas Brothers, on the video that I initially posted here on the Forum. The spoof video is poking fun and ridiculing the original "unmasking" video of the YouTube poster, which is genuine and reveals the hidden satanic message in the Jonas Brother's song "Kids of the Future"... the satanic message is REAL. The spoof attempts to discount it. HAI was merely revealing how Satan layers a lie over those attempting to expose his cunning craft.
Also, may your children beware of the hidden messages in Malee Cyrus's songs of "selling your love" and "prostituting your flesh". These are the subliminal messages in her songs.
It doesn't matter if these people are Christian; it's all part of the "Falling Away" of the Church, and Satan will take full advantage of it.
-7That was wise advice Seven. I'm not unaware of the subliminal messages.
And I talk to my girls all the time about this kind of thing.
And I understand what you are getting at. But I also wanted to point out that we should not just jump on the band wagon and always start accusing someone of being satanic.
I honestly do not get that feeling from these young men.
I think there is too much focus on UFO's .... Aliens .... Chem Trails .... Planet X coming toward us ..... Black Holes being caused by CERN.... now the Jonas brothers music is satanic....
I think there are other issues that God would like us to focus on.
Esteviento
Sep 25 2008, 10:16 PM
Tuue.
But know that those who do not want to hear,
will have to feel.
happy2Bfree
Sep 25 2008, 10:17 PM
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 25 2008, 03:28 PM)

What is the appropriate response to a mother/father who turns over the development of their child to the Disney corporation? What is the appropriate response to someone who repeatedly denies the obvious and dismisses all those who try to open their eyes to truth?
Christian moms and dads: Don't allow your children to be mind-controlled by the satanic influence of Disney. Do not allow the Disney channel into your home, or your children to be subjected to "rock" ... anything! Rock and pop music, and the idolization of these music artists have no place in a Christian home. Teach your children to come out of the world's entertainment system. Don't just look the other way in blind acceptance, and defend the abomination of this wicked entertainment. You are allowing the power of satan in the lives of your children, and you will be held accountable by God.
Don't be naive to what is going on around you. Protect yourself and your family from the ways of the world and turn your attention to Christ. Wake up!

"Turn your attention to Christ." AMEN!
This is why these kind of topics and all the conspiracy theories are bad because they don't have the focus on Yeshua.
And there is NEVER any solid proof to them.
That is a sad picture above.
Esteviento
Sep 25 2008, 10:23 PM
Oh well, think you have said your peece.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 25 2008, 11:43 PM
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 25 2008, 04:28 PM)

What is the appropriate response to a mother/father who turns over the development of their child to the Disney corporation? What is the appropriate response to someone who repeatedly denies the obvious and dismisses all those who try to open their eyes to truth?
Christian moms and dads: Don't allow your children to be mind-controlled by the satanic influence of Disney. Do not allow the Disney channel into your home, or your children to be subjected to "rock" ... anything! Rock and pop music, and the idolization of these music artists have no place in a Christian home. Teach your children to come out of the world's entertainment system. Don't just look the other way in blind acceptance, and defend the abomination of this wicked entertainment. You are allowing the power of satan in the lives of your children, and you will be held accountable by God.
Don't be naive to what is going on around you. Protect yourself and your family from the ways of the world and turn your attention to Christ. Wake up!

Miley Cyrus making the hand sign of "Satan's Horns"... I guess that says it all, right there. And oblivious parents haven't one little clue as their children succumb to total seduction.
-7
LemuelReyes
Sep 26 2008, 03:32 AM
guys i went to zellers this weekend and i saw a big logo of the satanic symbol that is an upside down star...and guess what it was in the kids section. ill try to get a pic and i was very disturbed that satan is even targetting kids that age!
Adam Weishaupt
Sep 26 2008, 07:19 AM
QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 25 2008, 09:11 AM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 23 2008, 06:01 AM)

JONAS BROTHERS ARE FOR LORD SATAN
(Don't miss the interview!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgtGmDS750 I believe that what is going on is an attack at these boys because of their beliefs.
We are on a forum. Non of us know (for sure) who is really on this forum "pretending" to be a Christian and actually giving out false info.
Anne...
The group that is displayed in that video are not the Jonas Brothers in question. The one that is talked about is a Satanic group.
The Jonas brothers were not even born yet when that group put their music out.
And Jonas brothers do not play dark music.
You cannot believe everything on see and hear on YOUTUBE.
Youtube is not the gospel. There is false information that goes out on the net to attack others. And people use youtube for much of it.
I am more bothered that some of you are displaying satanic music on a Christian forum for anyone to hear. Do you realize that your giving Satan an open doorway by doing that? I had to turn the sound off because
I didn't want to hear it.
............................................................................
It is not like me to defend anyone in the television or movie industry...or even the music industry. I don't get "into" what these people do in their lives.
However.... these boys have been under attack because of the standards that they uphold.
Their father is a Christian minister of the Gospel.
My girls are the same age as Mylee Cyrus and the Jonas brothers. I have heard their music.
It is not Satanic.
Do you know that the Jonas brothers also have been putting out the message that it is good to wait to have sex?
They believe in marriage first before sex.
And two of the brothers say that their most treasured item is their Bible.
I wouldn't normally know this kind of thing...but when my girls went on a trip this summer.... they wanted a couple magazines to read for fun. So I bought them a couple and one had an article about the Jonas brothers. I read a little about them and was impressed.
I have to say this...
It is also a sin to engage in rumors and lies that slander others without really knowing for sure that it is true.
And its always the same ones involved.
Amen to all of that sister.
The only thing I can see that is truly satanic about the JBs is the fact that they are making pathetic music and performances (in my humble opinion) and calling it great talent.
Then they rake in millions of dollars while other people who work very hard are barely able to support their families. Maybe I'm just jealous of thier paychecks.

Only in America.
Here Am I
Sep 26 2008, 07:43 AM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 26 2008, 12:43 AM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 25 2008, 04:28 PM)

What is the appropriate response to a mother/father who turns over the development of their child to the Disney corporation? What is the appropriate response to someone who repeatedly denies the obvious and dismisses all those who try to open their eyes to truth?
Christian moms and dads: Don't allow your children to be mind-controlled by the satanic influence of Disney. Do not allow the Disney channel into your home, or your children to be subjected to "rock" ... anything! Rock and pop music, and the idolization of these music artists have no place in a Christian home. Teach your children to come out of the world's entertainment system. Don't just look the other way in blind acceptance, and defend the abomination of this wicked entertainment. You are allowing the power of satan in the lives of your children, and you will be held accountable by God.
Don't be naive to what is going on around you. Protect yourself and your family from the ways of the world and turn your attention to Christ. Wake up!

Miley Cyrus making the hand sign of "Satan's Horns"... I guess that says it all, right there. And oblivious parents haven't one little clue as their children succumb to total seduction.
-7
Also, note that she displays a protruding tongue: another widely-used occult symbolTONGUE (protruding): Linked to flame, fire, fertility, sexual power and spiritual power. In nations around the world, images of deities or masks with protruding tongues have indicated active and occupying spiritual forces -- often a union of masculine and feminine spirits. Such images were vital to pagan rituals invoking [demonic] spirits. The sexual/spiritual forces represented by gargoyles with protruding tongues which adorned Gothic cathedrals were believed to protect the buildings from other spiritual powers.
http://www.crossroad.to/Books/symbols1.html
(pics deleted per Chloe request)
happy2Bfree
Sep 26 2008, 08:47 AM
QUOTE (Eli @ Sep 26 2008, 07:19 AM)

QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 25 2008, 09:11 AM)

QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 23 2008, 06:01 AM)

JONAS BROTHERS ARE FOR LORD SATAN
(Don't miss the interview!)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgtGmDS750 I believe that what is going on is an attack at these boys because of their beliefs.
We are on a forum. Non of us know (for sure) who is really on this forum "pretending" to be a Christian and actually giving out false info.
Anne...
The group that is displayed in that video are not the Jonas Brothers in question. The one that is talked about is a Satanic group.
The Jonas brothers were not even born yet when that group put their music out.
And Jonas brothers do not play dark music.
You cannot believe everything on see and hear on YOUTUBE.
Youtube is not the gospel. There is false information that goes out on the net to attack others. And people use youtube for much of it.
I am more bothered that some of you are displaying satanic music on a Christian forum for anyone to hear. Do you realize that your giving Satan an open doorway by doing that? I had to turn the sound off because
I didn't want to hear it.
............................................................................
It is not like me to defend anyone in the television or movie industry...or even the music industry. I don't get "into" what these people do in their lives.
However.... these boys have been under attack because of the standards that they uphold.
Their father is a Christian minister of the Gospel.
My girls are the same age as Mylee Cyrus and the Jonas brothers. I have heard their music.
It is not Satanic.
Do you know that the Jonas brothers also have been putting out the message that it is good to wait to have sex?
They believe in marriage first before sex.
And two of the brothers say that their most treasured item is their Bible.
I wouldn't normally know this kind of thing...but when my girls went on a trip this summer.... they wanted a couple magazines to read for fun. So I bought them a couple and one had an article about the Jonas brothers. I read a little about them and was impressed.
I have to say this...
It is also a sin to engage in rumors and lies that slander others without really knowing for sure that it is true.
And its always the same ones involved.
Amen to all of that sister.
The only thing I can see that is truly satanic about the JBs is the fact that they are making pathetic music and performances (in my humble opinion) and calling it great talent.
Then they rake in millions of dollars while other people who work very hard are barely able to support their families. Maybe I'm just jealous of thier paychecks.

Only in America.
I know what you mean Eli.
I think one person that tops evil though is Leona Hemsley who gave millions to her dog and then billions to animal rescue organizations. I think I read that she didn't leave anything to her kids.
And I don't mean to say she's evil because she wanted to help dogs....but she orginally was going to help disadvantaged children....and then cancelled it and just gave it all for animal rescue.
People were so angry about that...that there were death threats to her dog that she had to hire security for it.
I'm also a big dog lover. I would be heartbroken if something happened to my little guy. We love him a lot.
But human needs should come before animals. Thats how I feel.
It would have been nice if she could have left a few million for dogs...but then the rest....she could have helped out with various children organizations.
I heard on a news report that she said she didn't really like humans and so that's why she did that.
Adam Weishaupt
Sep 26 2008, 09:07 AM
Please no more pics of young girls dressing so immodestly or demonic looking people (Gene Simmons). This is a Christian forum. I understand why you did it but most people are aware of these things and don't need to see it all of the time. Besides, hand signs and tongues are child's play compared to some of the things I have seen at concerts I have been to and I am just one person. To mention these things I saw would be defiling in and of itself so I won't venture to do such. If hand signs can be used to invoke demons, than what happens when bands do all of the other much more disturbing things as a part of their shows? I would think that mocking the crucifixion and mocking God are more dangerous.
Also, the satan sign and the tongue sticking out has become more of a way of saying "let's party, have fun, let your hair hang down, rock n roll" than anything purposefully satanic. I am not saying people should go ahead and do these things. I am just saying that it has become a part of the Western culture to flash the sign and stick our your tongue, without any serious meaning behind it. It is really not a subversive or dangerous thing to do anymore. Most people look at that as being youthful and silly.
happy2Bfree
Sep 26 2008, 02:31 PM
I also don't like seeing the pictures of Gene Simmons and his nasty protruding tongue.
Nor hearing music that is satanic.
I'd like to ask you to delete them. I found them pretty offensive.
We should not be putting these kinds of things up on a Christian forum
happy2Bfree
Sep 26 2008, 09:59 PM
And you replace it with an occult symbol. (shaking my head)
That little picture you replaced it with feels very evil to me when I look at it.
Why do you like to do this is what I wonder?
I've also noticed the crystal you have in your avatar? New age?
It lines up with the garbage you keep posting.
I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend. But that is my view of your posts.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 26 2008, 11:17 PM
I've always interpreted Here Am I's avatar to be a "diamond" being a symbol of the refined Bride of Christ... a diamond is created by utterly tremendous pressure and heat applied to a "diamond in the rough" or a "lump of coal" (carbon) and is ultimately refined into its ultimate dazzling state of the highest purity, standard and immense strength. The diamond is a perfect symbol and exquisite image of the purified Bride of Christ.
-7
Adeline
Sep 26 2008, 11:52 PM
QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 26 2008, 10:59 PM)

And you replace it with an occult symbol. (shaking my head)
That little picture you replaced it with feels very evil to me when I look at it.
Why do you like to do this is what I wonder?
I've also noticed the crystal you have in your avatar? New age?
It lines up with the garbage you keep posting.
I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend. But that is my view of your posts.
Cindy,
It has been said that politics have no place in a Christians life and that a real Christian will not dabble in politiking. I disagree with this thought while I am also able to see their side of the argument. We all have different gifts and different interests and I am sorry that you don't care for Annie's post. My advise to you would be to just not read her threads/posts. Annie and I are interested in many of the same topics and she has given me some good starting reasearching points. And Annie is no more of a new ager than me, she has much Christian wisdom that she has shared with this forum. Cindy, I try to ignore Justices posts because I know the spirit behind her posts but let me assure you that Annie's Christian Spirit is true.
Between all of us we are a wealth of information.

So why don't we use what we can from the other poster and discard what we can't use. I enjoy her posts as well as your posts.
Gods Blessings,
Al
happy2Bfree
Sep 27 2008, 02:03 AM
Why put occulting images up in a Christian forum? Why post youtube videos that play satanic music? Why?
This does not belong here.
Sometimes we all see eye to eye on issues. Sometimes we don't.
But are we not to try to correct one another?
I'm sorry for the way I sounded in my previous post.
I'm just trying to give another side to this and point out what I think is wrong with it.
Our focus is not on Yeshua when its on conspiracy theories.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 27 2008, 03:15 AM
And what? ...should we rewrite the Bible and delete and ban all references to the Serpent, Adversary, Devil, Lucifer, Satan, Abaddon, Apollyon, etc.? Don't you know that if we did that, it would be FOOLISH, and then the deception would be even GREATER? Yet, there in the MIDST of the BIBLE, in the MIDST of the WORD OF GOD, is the Serpent, Adversary, Devil, Lucifer, Satan, Abaddon, Apollyon, etc.? AWARENESS of it serves a purpose.
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Adeline
Sep 27 2008, 08:42 AM
Cindy,
By covering our eyes and pretending satan doesn't exist doesn't help save souls, in fact in hinders workers in the harvest. For instance I never had a clue as to the hidden demonology of walt disney before Annie's posts. And the so called conspiracy theories are more than a theory and proving reality. The bottom line is that we can't always please everybody all the time by what we post nor should we try. Annie's posts have been instrumental to me in opening up my eyes to some things that are taking place right under my nose.
Adeline
Sep 27 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (christiana @ Sep 27 2008, 11:01 AM)

QUOTE (Adeline @ Sep 27 2008, 06:42 AM)

Cindy,
By covering our eyes and pretending satan doesn't exist doesn't help save souls, in fact in hinders workers in the harvest. For instance I never had a clue as to the hidden demonology of walt disney before Annie's posts. And the so called conspiracy theories are more than a theory and proving reality. The bottom line is that we can't always please everybody all the time by what we post nor should we try. Annie's posts have been instrumental to me in opening up my eyes to some things that are taking place right under my nose.
Annie has Godly discernment and is a very helpful sister in Christ. I can tell that she has no ulterior motives and only wants to warn her fellow believers about deception all around us like the Jonas group. Also, to add to 7 thunder's really good description of the diamond being a
perfect symbol and exquisite image of the purified Bride of Christ,
the diamond is used in marriage rings to symbolize unfrustrated, undemanding love, trust and loyalty between a wife and her husband. Thanks Annie for that lovely symbol.
Thank-you so much for all your kind words. Annie only wants to share the knowledge that she has gained through the years. The research that she has uncovered took her years to learn and she only wants to make it easier for other people.
Gods Blessings,
Al
happy2Bfree
Sep 27 2008, 01:26 PM
I'm not alone in this that I don't appreciate having satanic pictures put up ...nor satanic music.
I question those who do such things. They should know better. This is a Christian forum.
But I do not dislike you Anne. It's not that at all. I hope you know that.
Adam Weishaupt
Sep 27 2008, 01:43 PM
Why doesn't some one start another thread for immodestly dressed women, worldly music and pagan/satanic pictures? Call it "Things Christians ought to avoid."
And I don't believe that our friend's personal photo is real. Hi IR!
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 27 2008, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 27 2008, 02:26 PM)

I'm not alone in this that I don't appreciate having satanic pictures put up ...nor satanic music.
I question those who do such things. They should know better. This is a Christian forum.
And Rose.... please don't bother posting comments to me. You are supposed to be banned. And I don't appreciate the lies that you and Justice want to continue in.
That is sinful for you to be disobediant to the ones that run this forum.
You have made your point multiple of times. It's getting rather redundant. We get your position. You have been clear. Not all agree with you. Thank you for your comments and for participating. I think it's time to move on.
-7
happy2Bfree
Sep 28 2008, 12:56 AM
Seven...
Why do you focus so much on all this stuff?
I'll leave your thread now. But I hope you will think more about what your saying in this thread.
Adeline
Sep 28 2008, 01:23 AM
Cindy,
I can not speak for 7, only myself. I focus on the bad stuff so that I am aware and can sound the wake-up call for my neighbors. Sometimes we can't always hide from the boogie man, so isn't it better if we can see the whites of their eyes?
Gods Blessings,
Al
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 28 2008, 02:02 AM
QUOTE (Chloé @ Sep 28 2008, 01:56 AM)

Seven...
Why do you focus so much on all this stuff?
I'll leave your thread now. But I hope you will think more about what your saying in this thread.
NEWS FLASH: We're in a SPIRITUAL WAR. Helloooooooooooooo!
Spiritual warfare REQUIRES that we send spies into enemy territory to learn the war plans of the enemy for strategic advantage so that we can circumvent his agenda and potential attacks. God sent spies DIRECTLY INTO enemy territory, and instructed us to be "wise as a serpent". The wise and good warrior is VIGILANT of the whereabouts of his enemy and his next move. No stone goes unturned. To neglect this would put much in jeopardy and be very foolish if you choose to be the proverbial ostrich with its head buried in the sand, unbeknownst that a might dragon-beast is about to pounce and devour you and your children. Because I have exposed Satan's deception for the hearts of the children through this thread, the reaction from parents and others concerned has been of utter SHOCK and BEWILDERMENT over the extent of his seduction of their children through something so superficially and seemingly benign as the Jonas Brothers, and thus they are now ARMED to steer their children around the trap that has been set. But if the TRUTH was not communicated, then these parents and their children would be clueless sitting ducks ripe for demonic seduction.
International Standard Version (©2008)
Be clear-minded and alert. Your opponent, the devil, is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Keep your mind clear, and be alert. Your opponent the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion as he looks for someone to devour.
King James Bible
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
American King James Version
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walks about, seeking whom he may devour:
American Standard Version
Be sober, be watchful: your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour,
Bible in Basic English
Be serious and keep watch; the Evil One, who is against you, goes about like a lion with open mouth in search of food;
Douay-Rheims Bible
Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour.
Darby Bible Translation
Be vigilant, watch. Your adversary the devil as a roaring lion walks about seeking whom he may devour.
English Revised Version
Be sober, be watchful: your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Webster's Bible Translation
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Weymouth New Testament
Curb every passion, and be on the alert. Your great accuser, the Devil, is going about like a roaring lion to see whom he can devour.
World English Bible
Be sober and self-controlled. Be watchful. Your adversary, the devil, walks around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Young's Literal Translation
Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up,
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Here Am I
Sep 28 2008, 07:28 AM
Well said, -7
It can be clearly seen how people are being deceived. Because the reality in which we live is disturbing to them, they cower; fearing to come face to face with evil.
Satan is the god of this world (2Cor.4:4).
We must not be ignorant of his devices (2Cor.2:11),
but God's people, equipped with His Word (Eph.6:11)
and the Holy Spirit must expose evil... not have fellowship with it (Eph.5:11).
Many so-called Christians find it comforting and less-troubling to stay "in the world", they "wink" at it, and actually defend wickedness... calling it good!
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness..." -Isaiah 5:20
But God says, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you" 2Cor.6:17
“Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.” -1Thes. 5:21-22
"Ye that love the Lord hate evil." -Psalm 97:10
Those who remain in the world and partake of... and find pleasure and comfort in Satan's deception... this includes the false church system... will only bring God's wrath and destruction upon themselves. "and every one that is joined [unto them] shall fall by the sword" -Isaiah 13:15
"Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit." Jude 1:14-19
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Sep 28 2008, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (Here Am I @ Sep 28 2008, 08:28 AM)

Well said, -7
It can be clearly seen how people are being deceived. Because the reality in which we live is disturbing to them, they cower; fearing to come face to face with evil.
Satan is the god of this world (2Cor.4:4).
We must not be ignorant of his devices (2Cor.2:11),
but God's people, equipped with His Word (Eph.6:11)
and the Holy Spirit must expose evil... not have fellowship with it (Eph.5:11).
Many so-called Christians find it comforting and less-troubling to stay "in the world", they "wink" at it, and actually defend wickedness... calling it good!
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness..." -Isaiah 5:20
But God says, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you" 2Cor.6:17
“Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.” -1Thes. 5:21-22
"Ye that love the Lord hate evil." -Psalm 97:10
Those who remain in the world and partake of... and find pleasure and comfort in Satan's deception... this includes the false church system... will only bring God's wrath and destruction upon themselves. "and every one that is joined [unto them] shall fall by the sword" -Isaiah 13:15
"Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit." Jude 1:14-19

You said it, Sugar
... It cracks me up how some Christians are engaged in "friendly fire"
against their own Brethren for daring to stand up against Evil and in the process are unaware and oblivious to the fact that they, themselves, are the "traitors". Go figure. 
Daniel Webster once said: "Unmitigated Evil flourishes when perfectly good men do nothing."
The deception is so cunning, so clever, so strong that some Christians do not even know they are wallowing in it, because the sheer evil genius of True Evil is NOT when it present itself as its truly is, in its true nature and face value, BUT when it strategically MASKS itself as something so utterly benign with a false facade which is more apt to be WHOLLY embraced by spiritually naive victims. This is why when most of Christendom embraces the False Messiah when he arrives in the clouds, they will not have the spiritual discernment to know that he is actually Satan/Lucifer masquerading as Jesus returning.
-7
Descendant_of_Darkness
Oct 10 2008, 12:08 PM
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 23 2008, 04:46 AM)

Reversed Jonas Brother song reveals Disney's “Satanic Message”Though having started out "Christian", have the JBs "sold out" to Satan? It appears so... that they're singing to the beat of a different "master".
The Hidden Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5RAWlyrJs
The actual Jonas Brothers/Disney Machine song and video is entitled “Kids of the Future”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3zHbWjlUsw
This is a weird plagiarized rip-off from Kim Wilde’s 80s song “Kids in America”; how strange that the “Kids in America” have been converted into Satan’s “Kids of the Future”, clearly an indication of seduction of America’s children by Satan and a psychological conditioning for their spiritual allegiance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWZqllm3mQ
-7 Okay... this seems a little far-fetched to me. I mean, a lot of songs sound weird backwards. Maybe someone was just looking for a hidden message (a good example of this would be people who say that the Harry Potter books are evil). How do you know that someone didn't make this up?
Adam Weishaupt
Oct 10 2008, 12:28 PM
QUOTE (Descendant_of_Darkness @ Oct 10 2008, 12:08 PM)

Okay... this seems a little far-fetched to me. I mean, a lot of songs sound weird backwards. Maybe someone was just looking for a hidden message (a good example of this would be people who say that the Harry Potter books are evil). How do you know that someone didn't make this up?
I agree that people are just looking for demons and imagining them there in the Jonas Brothers music.
But Harry Potter is another story. The problem with Harry Potter is that is trivializes magic. Magic is strickly forbidden by God in the Old and New testaments. Under the old covenant in the nation of Israel, you would have to be tried for practicing magic. One option that the Bible gave the court was to even execute a practicer of magic. There is no record that this was ever done but there is record that the sentence of capital punishment was avoidable with certain hefty fines or other heavy alternative penalties. The point is that if God called for execution of practicers of magic, than God has a good reason for his people to avoid it like the devil himself.
Harry Potter books glamorize and trivialize things that God takes utterly seriously. If you ever get into the occult deeply enough, or if you go to Uganda with some close friends of mine, you will be utterly shocked at the reality and the murderous evil that exists in real life world of magic. I could related numerous stories from people I have know for 13 years and whome I have lived with and done missionary work with. I could tell you what the Africans in Africa told me. Everywhere we went the people would tell you very real accounts of the power of God evercoming very real manifestations of demon powers being used by warlocks and witches. This whole western notion (no one in Africa, Mexico or the east believes in "innocent white magic") of innocent, benevolent dabbling in witcraft (Wicca, etc) is utterly a lie of satan. It is sinful and dangerous to begin to toy with the spiritual realm or to even entertain their teachings as if they are possibly true.
Harry Potter is all fantasy. But the magical worldview it espouses is the real basic worldview that witches around the world believe in. That worldview is opposite of the scriptural view of the universe and God. That is what makes it satanic. That is what makes innocent Harry Potter dangerous. He gives the readers a great story with good guys and baddies and then slowly indoctrinates you with the occultic worldview.
+Shine4Him+
Oct 10 2008, 11:32 PM
I used to think that Harry Potter was harmless, that it was just a little bit odd and even bought the first book. But a friend sent me a link recently saying that all the names in HP... like "Slitherin" for example, are real names of demons and that the book is basically centred on demonlogy. So that's where the writer got all her ideas from. I will try to find the link sometime but it's on my other laptop which needs fixing.
The Jonas Brother's reversed message is very very clear and makes perfect sense in English. I have studied a few reversed messages and this is the WORST. Take for example Dora the Explorer... some are saying she says weird stuff but in no way is it clear, there seems to be references to Oysters of all things (bizarre not satanic). Contrast this with the Jonas Brothers which has a verse structure, repeated themes, no garbled undiscernable words... it's clear.. the reversed somg is even catchy, what more proof do you want?
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