How to Recognize the False Prophet








1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.



There are several signs to look for when one needs to recognize the false prophet. When someone asks me what to look for, the fist thing I tell them is that you can recognize the false prophet by the gift of discerning of spirits. The gift of discerning of spirits is the ability to identify if a spirit operating in a persons' life is from the Lord or from the enemy.

We as believers have within us the spirit of truth. It is up to us to build our spiritual muscle so to speak by spending time in the word, prayer and meditation.

As with any servant of the Lord, we all have built within us the gift of discerning of spirits. You will have the yes or no answer in the pit of your stomach. There are also other signs to look for and I share them with you here.




Exalt Themselves

The false prophet will seek to exalt him or herself and make a name for themselves, other than exalting the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. The word is very clear, it says in John 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.

If you see that a person likes to hear his or her name mentioned, be very wary of that. They can be flamboyant in there style or dress and manner of speech. Prophets are meant to draw you closer to Jesus, not to themselves. The true prophet's desire is to see the Body of Christ come into maturity. The prophets' passion is the Body of Christ, and to see it glorious, magnificent and mature.


Does not build up or Encourage

The false prophet will not build up or encourage. God does not point fingers at us exposing our sin. The word says in Colossians 2:2-4 that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words. The true prophet will edifiy, uplift and encourage you. If there is sin, then the true prophet will guide you away from your sin by showing you an alternate path, not by exposing your sin.


It will be a path filled with faith, hope and love. God will give you a glimpse of a path that will cause you to turn away from your sin and follow Him.



Gift seeker

The false prophet seeks the gifts, and does not have passion for the Bride of Christ.This is a person that will seek all the anointing, all the gifts all for herself/himself. When the Lord blesses his servants with spiritual gifts, they are for the edification of the Bride of Christ and are to be poured out upon the Bride.



Speaks words contrary to your spirit

The false prophet will speak something that is contrary to your spirit. If someone comes up to you and says that God has called you as an evangelist to the Philippines, but you have no burden for the lost, much less the Philippines, then discard those types of words.

A true prophet will speak what is burning in your spirit. He will speak your desire and passion, only confirming what God has placed in your heart.I have heard of people packing up and moving, or going into a totally different direction because the "prophet" gave them a word, but yet those words received were contrary to their spirit and to what God was doing in their lives. These types of words do not bring blessings, but destruction. A prophet will confirm, encourage and edify.



Wealth seeker

A false prophet will seek to make wealth from Gods' people. Consider the following passage. 2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. We have all seen those ministries that offer you a "prophetic" word on tape for a monetary value. God's word is free; Jesus has already paid the price, and a very high price I may add. These type of ministries seek to make money from God's people, preying on the weak.




False prophets always smite their followers in the end




23And the donkey saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and the donkey turned aside out of the way, and went into the field: and Balaam smote the donkey, to turn her into the way. 24But the angel of the LORD stood in a path of the vineyards, a wall being on this side, and a wall on that side. 25And when the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she thrust herself unto the wall, and crushed Balaam's foot against the wall: and he smote her again. 26And the angel of the LORD went further, and stood in a narrow place, where was no way to turn either to the right hand or to the left.27And when the donkey saw the angel of the LORD, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam's anger was kindled, and he smote the donkey with a staff.28And the LORD opened the mouth of the donkey, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

Numbers 22:23-26





The false prophet will hinder the flow of the spirit. This is something that is very common. You may be in a service or meeting, and this person will need to come forward with a "word" that is contrary to the flow of the spirit. The spirit may be going in a direction of healings, and the false prophet will give a word regarding a person's prayer request for their lost son being delivered. Here they move away and quench the flow of the spirit, and turn the focus on themselves.


I would like to point out that there is a difference between a false prophet and a newbie prophet.


The difference here is the prophet in its beginning stages (which can take many years) will take correction, and humble themselves before the Lord and seek guidance.


The true prophet will die to their error, and try again.


The false prophet will not take correction and be arrogant.


The newbie prophet will take the correction, learn from it and move on. We are all human and make mistakes and fail, but that is not an excuse to call every new prophet out there that misses it a false prophet. You will know them by their fruit, and by the gift of discerning of spirits.


A true prophet knows what its like to let it go. A prophet's growth is measured by their ability to die daily, as the Apostle Paul writes. They die to the fact that they missed it. They die to the fact that they did not hear correctly.


The false prophet may not realize they are in deception,
(nor do their followers at all) but they can be broken and free from all the lies of the enemy.


That is what we as the body of Christ are supposed to be doing, building each other up. If a person in deception is humbled, he (or she) will need to sit in total submission and begin afresh in his call with the Lord, learn to be a servant and then the Lord can work in him (her) and expose all the areas where the deception has entered. (the false prophets followers will all need healing or they will never be the same) Consider the following verse.Matthew 18:15 "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Matthew 18:16 -17 "But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that 'by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

For those who refuse to listen, then following scripture applies.2 John 1:10 -11 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

Those who continue to be in deception, arrogance and fail to recognize their sin, the word is very clear. Do not receive him into your house, church, social group. This will only bring a curse into your lives and to the lives of others.


It is important to note to break all ties and spiritual links with these types of people, and move on.

http://fwmi.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/how-t...-false-prophet/




And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face.
Deuteronomy 34:10


"When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
Deuteronomy 18:22




'But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'
Deuteronomy 18:20



5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
Deuteronomy 13:5



And Elijah said to them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.
I Kings 18:40



The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken.
Deuteronomy 18:15




Therefore when the people saw the sign which He had performed, they said, "This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world."
John 6:14





http://fwmi.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/how-t...-false-prophet/

Question: "How can I recognize a false teacher / false prophet?"

Answer: Jesus warned us that "false Christs and false prophets" will come and will attempt to deceive even God's elect (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18). To best guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers - know the truth. To spot a counterfeit, study the real thing. Any believer who is, "rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Timothy 2:15), and who makes a careful study of the Bible, can identify false doctrine. For example, a believer who has read the activities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Matthew 3:16-17 will immediately question any doctrine that denies the Trinity. Therefore, "step one" is to study the Bible and judge all teaching by what the scripture says.

Jesus said "a tree is known by his fruit" (Matthew 12:33). When looking for "fruit," here are three specific tests to apply to any teacher to determine the accuracy of his or her teaching:

1) What does this teacher say about Jesus? In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks, "Whom say ye that I am?" Peter answers, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God," and for this answer Peter is called "blessed." In 2 John 9, we read, "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son." In other words, Jesus Christ and His work of redemption is of utmost importance; beware anyone who denies that Jesus is equal with God, who downplays Jesus' substitutionary death, or who rejects Jesus' humanity. First John 2:22 says, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

2) Does this teacher preach the gospel? The gospel is defined as the good news concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, according to the scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As nice as they sound, the statements "God loves you," "God wants us to feed the hungry," and "God wants you to be wealthy" are NOT the complete message of the gospel. As Paul warns in Galatians 1:7, "There be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ." No one, not even a great preacher, has the right to change the message that God gave us. "If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:9).

3) Does this teacher exhibit character qualities that glorify the Lord? Speaking of false teachers, Jude 11 says, "They have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah." In other words, a false teacher can be known by his pride (Cain's rejection of God's plan), greed (Balaam's prophesying for money), and rebellion (Korah's promotion of himself over Moses).

For further study, review those books of the Bible that were written specifically to combat false teaching within the church: Galatians, 2 Peter, 2 John, and Jude. It is often difficult to spot a false teacher / false prophet. That is what a "wolf in sheep's clothing" is all about. Satan and his demons masquerade as "angels of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14), and his ministers masquerade as servants of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15). Only by being thoroughly familiar with the truth will we be able to recognize a counterfeit.

Recommended Resource: Basic Theology by Charles Ryrie.

http://www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html

Exposing - the False Prophets and their Wiles


Christian-Forum.net Contributors






True and False Prophets by Adeline
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=226720




Judging False Prophets by Dani
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=228450




False Prophet Series by Stephen
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=166889



More on False Prophets and Teachers by Stephen
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=171740



How to Recognise a False Prophet by Voice (back to home)
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=231574

Voice,

Your post and your presentations are excellent. The falsehood spread by those you have described is extremely prevailent today and many are being captured to their own destruction. It is the individual's own responsibility to avoid this onslaught and the Lord will hold each accountable. What the decerning believer can do, which you have done, is to expose the dangers and to warn those who entertain the false prophet and false teacher. Especially those who front with a "christian" cover.

Well done Voice....

Good post.

I posted something today about a man I believe to be a false prophet. I saw on a site that a large percentage of people believed in this man, Ronald Weinland. I could not believe that so many people would be misguided by him. This is something I think we will see more and more. Maybe I should have not posted about him, but after I read things about him and what he says, I was sickened by him. I felt compelled to say something.

All true false prophets front with a Christian cover. Those that are not supposed Christians are openly declaring heathenism. It is not the heathens we need to worry about. They are easy to spot. The ones that are the church's concern are those that put on a guise of Christianity, but really are not.
Do you know it is impossible for a false prophet to follow the doctrines and teachings of the apostles. That is the best way to see these wolves in sheep's clothing. Ask yourself, do they and can they follow the doctrines and teachings of Christ and the apostles.? When they error, do they seek forgiveness and repentance is another way?

As best as I can remember, the part of the treating about the new babie prophets, is right on, and a first I have ever seen in a treating. Great post, thanks for it!


Hugs!

Very good thread.

I was actually going to start one myself after reading a certain person go on and on and on about the judgments of the United States and how the last Hurricane was going to destroy New Orleans...(which didn't happen).

post #88

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...22876&st=80

When people curse others or even nations....they are in danger of having worse curses come down on them.

uh...here's a good indicator.

A true prophet won't have much money: because satan will be working full time against him....their pocketbooks will tell you alot because even when God blesses them, satan will send in hordes to take away the blessing.

Proof positive: Elijah was by a brook and needed ravens to feed him. John the baptist lived in the wilderness and ate locusts and honey, Moses wandered in the desert and found a wife and a father in law among a small herd of sheep, Jeremiah was thrown into a pit, Joseph into a cistern, Abraham was sent to a foreign land with few possessions, Jacob worked for unc Laban for 14 years, ......

Did satan know who they were: uh yes: He assaulted Elijah by the leaders of the day, Ahab & Jezebel plus a multitude of the trusty followers and false prophets, John was wanted and killed by Herod for a dance, Moses was chased by Pharoah and his men 2 times, Jeremiah was hated by all including the established high priesthood, Joseph was hated by his own brothers, Abraham had many adventures with many lean times and encounters with kings, Lot, Haggar and her son Ishmael, etc....

Sometimes they end up getting an earthly blessing. Even Job got one. But first the time of testing was fierce and at times grevious. When God says to satan, here's my man, satan begs to test them and invariably he get's his wish.

Cindy,

Our forum prophet predicted that on Thursday, Aug 28th something was going to happen to me and guess what? Still with you all and I haven't a scratch.

Gods Blessings,

Al

yeh i know what you mean Adeline what puzzled me nothing happend in New orleans when gustav was predicted also to destroy that town and wipe out the witches and new orleans of the map i was counteracting and praying that god wil deal with the false claims being made i gues god us he is in control

i was praying with a lot of other good chrsitians for gustav to die down to a 2 not the predictions we were being given

even though new orleans is out of power i am praising god no lives were lost




God bless from damo

thank GOD for the out of danger from thr gustav.

I missed that Al.

I'm sorry she/he tried to project that on you. It certainly sounds like they were trying to send a curse on you.

If I find that person on this forum again.....trust me....I'll be taking all this to the leaders of this forum.

That person does not EVER need to be on here again. She is a false prophet and is cursing people.

I have felt a very evil spirit behind those posts.

There are a couple "new" posters that seem a bit suspicious.

And there are a few others and their proclaimations of doom for the United States. I think its all a matter of the spirit behind it.

There is a difference between saying we need to repent and seek God and admitting that we are not perfect....

to outright calling the U.S.A an evil nation who is going to have the wrath of God on it.

The latter is an outright curse on us and we should be speaking out against such things.

But the devil is fooled because all that does is give God the opportunity to show himself strong.
Testing can be grievous..If we would only give God the opportunity to reveal himself in our weakness.
When we don't trust him he imposes it on us...Then we are forced to see it. But it's done in love. It's happened to me on a couple of occasions..

Jesus despised his own testing and trials and having to lower Himself to Godman status. If the testing is of a high order, God does provide a way out. Sure it happens in weakness, because when satan goes after the prophets, he knows who they are and they know who he is. It's not like it's a mystery to them. But, when he takes you on by and through the ignorance of others, on and on and on and on, the church will say it's your sins, your neighbor will pity you and do nothing, the subtle ignorance of people will effect your health, finances, friendships...etc

Just think, if there is but a couple people that need to be corner and you have the advantage of being invisible and these people are going to change the history of the world, you would spend alot of time around them devising mischief. I would imagine after about 7 years you'd be worn out. First of all, I am not sure the devil is fooled. Everything that God has said has come true. He has a pretty good idea that the outcome will be as it is written.

But, he is a fighter and he will not go down without a fight. He doesn't have a choice. Although he likes the first part of the Great Tribulation, he is not a big fan of it's end. Of course he wanted to rule and reign forever but it will not be.

Anyway, I think this all off topic anyway. The question is how do you recoginize a prophet and I indicated they won't be having a very good time. On that I am sure we can agree.

There are many false prophets to be sure. It is quite easy to spot them as they cannot perceive the simplicity which is in Christ. But we must be careful not to be witch-hunters as well. Getting over pre-occupied with what may become a spirit of inquisition holds a danger in it's own right. We are to seek out the pure, and not the vile. Voice's article accurately points out that an immature prophet is different than a false prophet although these may be lumped together in the eyes of the inquisitor. I have often heard the verse used...a good tree does not produce bad fruit, to condemn a true brother who happens to be in present error, while neglecting that...a bad tree doesn't produce good fruit.

The fact is, that there will be a mixture of fruit in the development of the disciple. We must be careful to discern by the Spirit. I feel the the spirit of inquisition is every bit as dangerous to the Body as false prophets.

Maran atha

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When the devil steals the Lord uses it. He steals from the prophets and in so doing gives God all the more opportunity to demonstrate himself and teach the prophet. (and those who hear)

What seems like darkness done by the enemies theft..

when examined closely

turns out to be an awesome stepping stone to greater grace, mercy and revelation.

The devil stole medical care from me...Jesus healed me. Had l been able to run to the Dr. all the time l wouldn't have had to depend on the Lord. I didn't ask for healing only strength to endure the illness. He choose to heal. I was surprised by it and l learned a lesson.

Inquisition? It is hard but God calls us to discern and speak. As our tents are filled we are to lengthen our cords and strengthen our stakes

and he will in turn strengthen us from the east wind coming.

true

Amen. The Lord makes the delineation in His Word which is the final arbiter.


That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Genesis 18:25




14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you.
Deuteronomy 13:14

18When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.
Deuteronomy 13:18

1Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.2If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,3And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;4And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:5Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Deuteronomy 17:1-5





But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Deuteronomy 18:20


But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has counseled rebellion against the LORD your God who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, to seduce you from the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from among you.
Deuteronomy 13:5


The man who acts presumptuously by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the LORD your God, nor to the judge, that man shall die; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel.
Deuteronomy 17:12






Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My Name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.
Jeremiah 14:14


And if anyone still prophesies, then his father and mother who gave birth to him will say to him, 'You shall not live, for you have spoken falsely in the name of the LORD'; and his father and mother who gave birth to him will pierce him through when he prophesies.
Zechariah 13:3


But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Acts 5:3
Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and died. Great fear came on all who heard these things.
Acts 5:5


8And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.9Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.10Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
Acts 5:8-10



13Up, sanctify the people, and say, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow: for thus saith the LORD God of Israel, There is an accursed thing in the midst of thee, O Israel: thou canst not stand before thine enemies, until ye take away the accursed thing from among you.14In the morning therefore ye shall be brought according to your tribes: and it shall be, that the tribe which the LORD taketh shall come according to the families thereof; and the family which the LORD shall take shall come by households; and the household which the LORD shall take shall come man by man.15And it shall be, that he that is taken with the accursed thing shall be burnt with fire, he and all that he hath: because he hath transgressed the covenant of the LORD, and because he hath wrought folly in Israel.


16So Joshua rose up early in the morning, and brought Israel by their tribes; and the tribe of Judah was taken:17And he brought the family of Judah; and he took the family of the Zarhites: and he brought the family of the Zarhites man by man; and Zabdi was taken:18And he brought his household man by man; and Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, was taken.19And Joshua said unto Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession unto him; and tell me now what thou hast done; hide it not from me.20And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the LORD God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done:21When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them; and, behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it.22So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran unto the tent; and, behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it.23And they took them out of the midst of the tent, and brought them unto Joshua, and unto all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the LORD.24And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them unto the valley of Achor.

25And Joshua said, Why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones.


Joshua 7:13-25




And the sons of Carmi; Achan, the troubler of Israel, who transgressed in the thing accursed.
I Chronicles 2:7





And Elijah said to them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.
I Kings 18:40



27A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Exodus 22:27



Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.'
Leviticus 20:27



Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Exodus 22:18




26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Hebrews 10: 26-31



We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.
2 Peter 1:19





For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Spirit.
2 Peter 1:21




And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 19:20


And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelation 20:10



23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it 27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Revelation 21:23-37

A 1500 mile high city on earth would look more like this, lol.



Yeah, THAT'S gunna happen, LOL.

lol nice picture........

Lol. I Love Photoshop!

And thanks to all those who put pics on flickr, lol

great posts Voice and Researcher. Helpful, creative and refreshing.

Welcome

Keep in mind that this present earth will be destroyed with fire and replaced with a new earth for eternity .... and no one knows how large the new planet will be. This dimension has not been revealed by the Lord. So the idea that the new Jerusalem will not fit on the new earth is foolishness. Better take the Lord at His Word for the measurements He has given for the new Jerusalem that will be placed upon a new earth.

It will be a new age of earth....same old earth. This has happened in the past. There was an age before our present one...the age in which Satan rebelled. God destroyed that age and started over. Same earth, new age.

So how do you know this. Give me the scriptures that tell of the same "old" earth that will exist in the Lord's eternity. I know that the present earth has been in existence since the beginning of creation so that is no new revelation. The scriptures support this truth and one can observe the old age of the earth and the universe. You give scriptural support for the new earth being the same "old" earth and then I will give you scripture that tells differently.

11 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

3:6 Whereby the WORLD THAT THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, PERISHED:

3:7 But the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

3:13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

The age before our present age...perished. Same earth but the age perished. The same thing will happen again. All evil things shall "melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are herein shall be burned up" but the earth itself will still be....the earth itself. A new age begins.

Interesting...

esteviento means thiswind

"The age before our present age...perished. Same earth but the age perished. The same thing will happen again. All evil things shall "melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are herein shall be burned up" but the earth itself will still be....the earth itself. A new age begins."

>I think you had better read Peter's discourse again regarding the Lord's removal of the present heavens, which include the earth by the way .... and the statement is "the earth also" .... and the works. This implies that the earth will also itself be destroyed .... not just the works and the heavens.

>No one who reads chapter 21 can by any stretch of the imagination see the new Jerusalem as anything but a celestial city place upon the earth. You say it is the Body of Christ. The verses clearly indicate that these will enter the city and are not the city itself.

Also, let me remind you that the measurement given is of the total parameter of the square city which is given as 12,000 furlongs [3,000 furlongs per side]. The city is a cube and has equal length, width, and height. Measuring two lengths and two widths returns 12,000 furlongs for the total ground parameter of the city. This translates into about 340 miles per segment. So the base measurement is a 340 mile square .... 340 miles long and 340 miles wide. The height will be the same 340 mile equivalent since the city is a cube. This is not the picture presented by some on the forum.

How does one recognize a false prophet? Do you know?

Just as when the first earth age passed so will this age....same earth, different age. Will we be in another dimension? I think so...we'll see.

And yes....I know how to recognize a false prophet...they teach if you don't believe in rapture you are left behind!

Your evaluation of a false prophet is totally mis-directed and this is exactly why you have fallen for the cult teachings of Armstrong and Murray. Now we know the rest of the story.

http://wandering-woman.blogspot.com/2005/0...ver-part-1.html

Excellent work Annie.
God bless you.

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Acts 17:11

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 7:15

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 Peter 2:1

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arnoldmurray.html

http://letusreason.org/Poptea4.htm

The distruction of the earth and it's works is symbolic not litteral.... Or else Jesus came in vain, becauce He came to take away the curse from the earth....That Adam brought.

Stephen you are way to carnal. When Jesus said; those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, do you think He meant physical eyes and ears or spiritual eyes and ears....


Wirlwind good one.

back to the topic (which false prophets and teachers hate discussing) ...

"How can I recognize a false teacher / false prophet?"

Answer: Jesus warned us that "false Christs and false prophets" will come and will attempt to deceive even God's elect (Matthew 24:23-27; see also 2 Peter 3:3 and Jude 17-18). To best guard yourself against falsehood and false teachers - know the truth. To spot a counterfeit, study the real thing. Any believer who is, "rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Timothy 2:15), and who makes a careful study of the Bible, can identify false doctrine. For example, a believer who has read the activities of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Matthew 3:16-17 will immediately question any doctrine that denies the Trinity. Therefore, "step one" is to study the Bible and judge all teaching by what the scripture says.

Jesus said "a tree is known by his fruit" (Matthew 12:33). When looking for "fruit," here are three specific tests to apply to any teacher to determine the accuracy of his or her teaching:

1) What does this teacher say about Jesus? In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks, "Whom say ye that I am?" Peter answers, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God," and for this answer Peter is called "blessed." In 2 John 9, we read, "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son." In other words, Jesus Christ and His work of redemption is of utmost importance; beware anyone who denies that Jesus is equal with God, who downplays Jesus' substitutionary death, or who rejects Jesus' humanity. First John 2:22 says, "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

2) Does this teacher preach the gospel? The gospel is defined as the good news concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, according to the scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). As nice as they sound, the statements "God loves you," "God wants us to feed the hungry," and "God wants you to be wealthy" are NOT the complete message of the gospel. As Paul warns in Galatians 1:7, "There be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."

No one, not even a great preacher, has the right to change the message that God gave us. "If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:9).

3) Does this teacher exhibit character qualities that glorify the Lord? Speaking of false teachers, Jude 11 says, "They have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah." In other words, a false teacher can be known by his pride (Cain's rejection of God's plan), greed (Balaam's prophesying for money), and rebellion (Korah's promotion of himself over Moses).

For further study, review those books of the Bible that were written specifically to combat false teaching within the church: Galatians, 2 Peter, 2 John, and Jude.

It is often difficult to spot a false teacher / false prophet.

That is what a "wolf in sheep's clothing" is all about. Satan and his demons masquerade as "angels of light" (2 Corinthians 11:14), and his ministers masquerade as servants of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15).

Only by being thoroughly familiar with the truth will we be able to recognize a counterfeit.

http://www.gotquestions.org/false-teachers.html

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