There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Full Version: There Is Only The Bibles Interpretation!
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:54 PM) 
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
I pretty much believe this,,,but what I have noticed is if you dont understand the beginning then your doctrine will be wrong anyway.....It is crucial to understand the beginnings (Genesis) if you trully want to understand the word....
Agreed there is only one interpretation. We read scripture from a grammatical historical context but there is a louvred revealtion which speaks to each generation in order to make it viable to contemporary society. That is the difference between holy writ and Spirit of truth...Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
" but whatsoever he shall hear" implies future hearing not past hearing...contemporary investment in the word.
Flipping through Philippians...
Phi 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and [in] all judgment;
Phi 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
Phi 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
" but whatsoever he shall hear" implies future hearing not past hearing...contemporary investment in the word.
Flipping through Philippians...
Phi 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and [in] all judgment;
Phi 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;
Phi 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Sep 3 2008, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:54 PM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
I pretty much believe this,,,but what I have noticed is if you dont understand the beginning then your doctrine will be wrong anyway.....It is crucial to understand the beginnings (Genesis) if you trully want to understand the word....
I would have to agree with you. Some belive that the OT is useless and start reading the bible at Matt. That's like starting a new book in the middle. You will never know how the main body developes.
QUOTE (LarryD @ Sep 3 2008, 10:25 AM)
Agreed there is only one interpretation. We read scripture from a grammatical historical context but there is a louvred revealtion which speaks to each generation in order to make it viable to contemporary society. That is the difference between holy writ and Spirit of truth...Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Yup. The HS teaches us too.
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 03:02 PM)
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Sep 3 2008, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:54 PM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
I pretty much believe this,,,but what I have noticed is if you dont understand the beginning then your doctrine will be wrong anyway.....It is crucial to understand the beginnings (Genesis) if you trully want to understand the word....
I would have to agree with you. Some belive that the OT is useless and start reading the bible at Matt. That's like starting a new book in the middle. You will never know how the main body developes.
Well when you get a chance maybe you should start a thread on how it all began,,,I would be interested to read how you believe this age began....
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 11:54 AM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
I disagree with your synopsis !
You can have two witnesses who believe error, and so then your theory does not hold true.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. (Romans 10:17) <- This verse is saying that you must hear, but you also "must" hear the Word of God.
Hearing comes from those whom God has given to the Church > Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Evangilists, Pastors. There are also false apostles, and false prophets, and false teachers, and false evangilists and false pastors. They might call themselves this, but they will lead you astray ! Only through these will truth come from ! Most are speculators ! They theorize this and theorize that. Many follow their pernicous ways.
Paul who was an apostle of Jesus Christ, states in Ephesians 1:17 & 18 - "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him " ---- "The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints" ---- Continue reading verses 19 & 20 & 21 & 22 & 23.
Paul also said in Galatians 3:1 - "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you ? " Verse 2 - "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ?
In the OT, Israel was by the works of the law, but the Church is by "hearing" of faith ! Notice it says "hearing" !
So who are you hearing ? And do you "know" the mysteries within the Word of God ? The mysteries are how God wrote His Word ! The mysteries, will seperate truth from untruth.
Let me finish the context of II Timothy 3:16 for you, because you did not quote verse 17 ---- "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" < - "Man of God"
God Bless
IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 11:54 AM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Excellent…I don’t believe I could add much more than what you have said.
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 03:02 PM)
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Sep 3 2008, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:54 PM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
I pretty much believe this,,,but what I have noticed is if you dont understand the beginning then your doctrine will be wrong anyway.....It is crucial to understand the beginnings (Genesis) if you trully want to understand the word....
I would have to agree with you. Some belive that the OT is useless and start reading the bible at Matt. That's like starting a new book in the middle. You will never know how the main body developes.
Its good to know that we have Christians that understand the importance of the OT....without the OT it will be hard to understand a lot of the things that's in the NT. All scripture the Old and the New Testament was written for our correction and learning…ignore one or the other and your understanding will be hampered.
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Its good to know that we have Christians that understand the importance of the OT....without the OT it will be hard to understand a lot of the things that's in the NT. All scripture the Old and the New Testament was written for our correction and learning…ignore one or the other and your understanding will be hampered.
Amen
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
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I pretty much believe this,,,but what I have noticed is if you dont understand the beginning then your doctrine will be wrong anyway.....It is crucial to understand the beginnings (Genesis) if you trully want to understand the word....
Brother Nightmare
you are correct, if you don't understand the ending go back to the beginning.
Jesus did it,
Luke 24v
25: Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27: And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Paul said it
Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
who wrote the first 5 books of the bible. Moses.
then we have the Prophets who the apostles read and qoute.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
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I disagree with your synopsis !
You can have two witnesses who believe error, and so then your theory does not hold true.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. (Romans 10:17) <- This verse is saying that you must hear, but you also "must" hear the Word of God.
Hearing comes from those whom God has given to the Church > Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Evangilists, Pastors. There are also false apostles, and false prophets, and false teachers, and false evangilists and false pastors. They might call themselves this, but they will lead you astray ! Only through these will truth come from ! Most are speculators ! They theorize this and theorize that. Many follow their pernicous ways.
Paul who was an apostle of Jesus Christ, states in Ephesians 1:17 & 18 - "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him " ---- "The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints" ---- Continue reading verses 19 & 20 & 21 & 22 & 23.
Paul also said in Galatians 3:1 - "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you ? " Verse 2 - "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ?
In the OT, Israel was by the works of the law, but the Church is by "hearing" of faith ! Notice it says "hearing" !
So who are you hearing ? And do you "know" the mysteries within the Word of God ? The mysteries are how God wrote His Word ! The mysteries, will seperate truth from untruth.
Let me finish the context of II Timothy 3:16 for you, because you did not quote verse 17 ---- "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" < - "Man of God"
God Bless
IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM
You can have two witnesses who believe error, and so then your theory does not hold true.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. (Romans 10:17) <- This verse is saying that you must hear, but you also "must" hear the Word of God.
Hearing comes from those whom God has given to the Church > Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Evangilists, Pastors. There are also false apostles, and false prophets, and false teachers, and false evangilists and false pastors. They might call themselves this, but they will lead you astray ! Only through these will truth come from ! Most are speculators ! They theorize this and theorize that. Many follow their pernicous ways.
Paul who was an apostle of Jesus Christ, states in Ephesians 1:17 & 18 - "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him " ---- "The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints" ---- Continue reading verses 19 & 20 & 21 & 22 & 23.
Paul also said in Galatians 3:1 - "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you ? " Verse 2 - "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ?
In the OT, Israel was by the works of the law, but the Church is by "hearing" of faith ! Notice it says "hearing" !
So who are you hearing ? And do you "know" the mysteries within the Word of God ? The mysteries are how God wrote His Word ! The mysteries, will seperate truth from untruth.
Let me finish the context of II Timothy 3:16 for you, because you did not quote verse 17 ---- "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" < - "Man of God"
God Bless
IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM
Brother MM
you are correct on some points because it is also written to try the spirits
1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
so once you hear the word of God, not only do you have to read it for yourself you have to try it to see if it is from God.
The Lord said search the scriptures
Jn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
not only must we hear we must do search the bible ourselves for the truth.
we must study ourselves.
2Tm 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
now let me finish Roman10
8: But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14: How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15: And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16: But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
what if the preacher you are hearing is a false prophet? what if the preacher you are hearing is not sent by Jesus.
A preacher is to teach God's truth
Eccl 12
9: And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.
10: The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth
this is what the people are to hear.
the words of truth.
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 11:54 AM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
Another thing to add to your great post is this. Certain things are opened to our understanding at different stages of our walk. There are different levels to scripture and as we mature new and exciting elements of the very same scripture we read a few months ago suddenly have a deeper meaning.
Anyone ever been in a church that didn't teach out of the OT until the offering plates started becoming lighter and lighter?
"Everyone, let's turn to the book of Malachi..."
No personal interpretation, but specific verses are picked? Does anyone else find the irony in that?
Who decides the official interpretation?
"Everyone, let's turn to the book of Malachi..."
No personal interpretation, but specific verses are picked? Does anyone else find the irony in that?
Who decides the official interpretation?
QUOTE (Mysteryman @ Sep 3 2008, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (Eccl12and13 @ Sep 3 2008, 11:54 AM)
There is Only the Bibles Interpretation
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
Readers of the bible must understand that there is no private interpretation of the scriptures.
2 Peter 1[20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Some may say, “Well that’s your interpretation and this is mine.”, but according to scripture there is no, ’Your’ or ’Mine’ interpretation of the scriptures. There is only the bibles interpretation. And God tells us exactly how we are to use the bible to get the right interpretation from the bible.
First God gives us the criteria for establishing His word:
Matt. 18[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
We need at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing. This can be proven again with the following scripture:
Isa. 8[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And why must it be to the law AND the testimony? Because we need at least (2) witnesses to prove something.
He then tells us which scriptures to use;
Luke. 4[4] And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Please remember, when Jesus made the above statement the only word of God was the OT, Gen. to Mal. The NT cames many years after the death of Christ. And once those were completed, those too were the word of God. So we are to use EVERY word of God. That means OT and NT scriptures.
He then tells us what the scriptures are used for:
2 Tim. 3[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
The scriptures are to be used to instruct, correct and to prove all doctrine.
And finally God tells us how to use the scriptures:
Isa. 28[9] Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
In order to understand doctrine you must first be weaned from milk and breast (the easy stuff). Then you must search here and there, line upon line, topic upon topic.
So let‘s review how we are to get the bible to interpret the bible:
Find at least (2) witnesses saying the same thing.
Use ALL of Gods word, OT and NT.
We should search the scriptures here and there, all within the same topic.
Once we do all of the above we can use those scriptures to correct, instruct and prove all doctrine.
Proving things God’s way leaves no room for others to say, “That’s your interpretation.”
I disagree with your synopsis !
You can have two witnesses who believe error, and so then your theory does not hold true.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. (Romans 10:17) <- This verse is saying that you must hear, but you also "must" hear the Word of God.
Hearing comes from those whom God has given to the Church > Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Evangilists, Pastors. There are also false apostles, and false prophets, and false teachers, and false evangilists and false pastors. They might call themselves this, but they will lead you astray ! Only through these will truth come from ! Most are speculators ! They theorize this and theorize that. Many follow their pernicous ways.
Paul who was an apostle of Jesus Christ, states in Ephesians 1:17 & 18 - "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him " ---- "The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints" ---- Continue reading verses 19 & 20 & 21 & 22 & 23.
Paul also said in Galatians 3:1 - "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you ? " Verse 2 - "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ?
In the OT, Israel was by the works of the law, but the Church is by "hearing" of faith ! Notice it says "hearing" !
So who are you hearing ? And do you "know" the mysteries within the Word of God ? The mysteries are how God wrote His Word ! The mysteries, will seperate truth from untruth.
Let me finish the context of II Timothy 3:16 for you, because you did not quote verse 17 ---- "That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works" < - "Man of God"
God Bless
IN Christ - Christ IN -- MM
Sorry if you misunderstood me. When I am speaking of 2 witnesses, I'm talking about those prophets and apostles spoken of between Gen. and Rev. You are right, anyone other than them can be in error.
And we know we can trust them because:
2Pet.1
[21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
And we know the Holy Spirit is correct because:
John 16:[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
So the Holy Ghost is only going to come to us with a doctrine that was given to him. And he will guide us into ALL truth. Here is an example of Gods holy spirit:
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Now where did the revelation of Jesus Christ start? It started with the Father, passed down to Jesus Christ, and delivered to John by an angel. And what kind of angel was it that gave the message to John.....an Holy Angel!
And God tells us this about His angels:
Heb. 1:[14] Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
So yes....we can trust the saying of at least 2 or more witnesses as long as they have been spoken to buy Gods ministering spirits.....His Holy angels..... also know as the Holy Ghost. And if we hear and heed we are hearing and doing the word of God spoken through His Holy spirits.
The Word of God is a mirror image of itself !
You can not study the Word for or by yourself !
You first must hear, and the one you hear from , "must" be sent by God.
You then, are to see if those things are so, or not against the written Word.
In the early first century Church, they did not have the NT. However, because they did have the OT, they could check against the OT . But, Paul told the early church that the NT - new covenant - is not the doing of the law of Moses. This was "new" to them, and something that they would have difficulty grasping. However, Paul explained , that the church is made up of Jews and Gentiles, and that the Gentiles as well as the Jews, are not called to "do" the Law of Moses. My point here, is that this was "new" revelation. New revelation is always something people have had to deal with throught time. New revelation trys a person to grasp the statements made. And can these statements line up with the rest of the Word of God. Peter and Paul talk about witnesses. Even though Jesus had been raised from the dead, Jesus did not show himself to everyone, so they had to believe those who said he was risen. These were the witnesses. Once again, you must conclude the validity of those witnesses. Even when Paul , who was called Saul, who crucified the Church. Even Peter had to confirm his calling to the other disciples.
Revelation (a new revealing) "must" line up with the Word of God. Jesus was spoken about by the prophets in the OT. When Jesus came, there was enough evidence from the OT prophets, that would prove who and what he was. However, many jews did not believe.
So, when Paul states, that the "Last Adam" is spiritual, and the first Adam is physical or literal, the "two" must line up.
Statements about both, must line up.
The same is with the rest of the NT statements, even the book of Revelation, which John wrote.
The Word of God -- is -- A mirror image of itself !
IN Christ - MM
You can not study the Word for or by yourself !
You first must hear, and the one you hear from , "must" be sent by God.
You then, are to see if those things are so, or not against the written Word.
In the early first century Church, they did not have the NT. However, because they did have the OT, they could check against the OT . But, Paul told the early church that the NT - new covenant - is not the doing of the law of Moses. This was "new" to them, and something that they would have difficulty grasping. However, Paul explained , that the church is made up of Jews and Gentiles, and that the Gentiles as well as the Jews, are not called to "do" the Law of Moses. My point here, is that this was "new" revelation. New revelation is always something people have had to deal with throught time. New revelation trys a person to grasp the statements made. And can these statements line up with the rest of the Word of God. Peter and Paul talk about witnesses. Even though Jesus had been raised from the dead, Jesus did not show himself to everyone, so they had to believe those who said he was risen. These were the witnesses. Once again, you must conclude the validity of those witnesses. Even when Paul , who was called Saul, who crucified the Church. Even Peter had to confirm his calling to the other disciples.
Revelation (a new revealing) "must" line up with the Word of God. Jesus was spoken about by the prophets in the OT. When Jesus came, there was enough evidence from the OT prophets, that would prove who and what he was. However, many jews did not believe.
So, when Paul states, that the "Last Adam" is spiritual, and the first Adam is physical or literal, the "two" must line up.
Statements about both, must line up.
The same is with the rest of the NT statements, even the book of Revelation, which John wrote.
The Word of God -- is -- A mirror image of itself !
IN Christ - MM
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