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Fere
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


Has the Gospel been preached throughout the World? I know that some smaller countries or tribes in the World might not have heard the Gospel??? How would you interpret this. (Plus some poor countries have people who can't read).

I was just thinking about this earlier and I was curious to what you think on this.

I see that some believe that this was fulfilled during the Apostolic Age??? Would the "world" in this mean the entire world or just what was considered the world at the time?

Thanks.
damo7
high


no not at all and their is one member hear who is against our bible translaters its as if only the ones who have had a good education and can speak english are the ones we should be focusing on


i tend to support our translators and pray gods blessings over them i have a friend who has just tranlated the new testament to the aborigonal tribe he has been working close with this tribe in australia has its own language and it took him and the team under him 4yrs to get the book of luke right so that this tribe can understand what luke had to say

in some parts of my country which is yugoslavia there are a lot of serbs and croations that cant read but can speak the language very well

and i am noticing this in australia i have seen were men and women who cant read or write and it puzzles me how they have survived as in this country you need to know how to read and how to write and how to use a computer as the way the world has changed bosses these days communicate by sending out emails or having you write a written report

security gaurds for example have their own books and in the book you write down what you observe in the sites you are working in you also have a communications book and it needs to be written clear so that your boss and the other gaurds can understand this is how things are done in australia


what i noticed is when jesus picked the 12 not one of them were educated also they had jesus they did not need to read from the bible i have in my home he was like an open book to them


what gets up my nose is how selfish some christians have gotten its like they pick who they want to share the gospel to

in my fiancees country which is the philippines their are people who have not had a good education but have been able to provide for their familys a lot of filapinos cant speak english and tend to speak their langauge

my fiancee and our members have the bible in their own langauge and also have an english verssion in their homes

when i was in the philippines i was taken to this farm my fiancee holds 5 bible study groups on saturday the farm i was taken to this family has just given their lives to the lord they were x catholics my fiancee shared to them in their own langauge with out the family needing to look at the bible

my fiancee told me that their are filapinos who have not bothered to learn to read or write and she explained why

this is something i am going to have to get use to and when i am accepted as a filapino citazen my father in law and my new wife and my mother in law will teach me their language i guess i wil even have to learn how to read and even write in there language

so i say no the gospel has not been preached through out the world or has it reached the ones that jesus wants us to preach to

the end is not near jesus says when the gospel is preached through out the world then the end wil come


we need to do our best to make sure everyone gets a chance to hear the gospel preached if it means learning a new language or supporting the men and women who translate the bible into diffrent languages do it with out whinning and only targetting the ones who speak your language why should we get to a place in our walk were we become selfish



God bless from damo
kiva`
"Shall" means, to me, an obligation. This passage, I believe, is telling us that we have an obligation to the world; to preach the Gospel to them. And the word "world" I would say describes the whole world, including the smallest of tribes in Africa and Asia to the biggest nation in the world.

I see that God has enough faith in His sons and daughters to preach the Word to the whole world that only shall the end come after it. John 4:19 says, "We Love because He first loved us." I think we can also apply this to our faith in Him, that we only have faith in Him because He first had faith in us.
Fere
I agree, somewhere I thought I had read how many languages the Bible has been interpreted in. I cannot remember where I found that information before. Of course, that will not help those who cannot read. I know the Gospel is also on television, but not all people have that either. There are some people out there that can't read, don't have television and have not heard the gospel.

I don't know why, but this has been on my mind. (The people who have not heard it yet). Many have died and never knew.
Adonaicole
Can anyone mention, one country where the gospel has not been preached? If you do, I believe that I can prove you wrong.
Fere
How do or would we know where it has been preached? Is there a place to find this information?

Thanks.
Adeline
QUOTE (Adonaicole @ Aug 30 2008, 09:50 PM) *
Can anyone mention, one country where the gospel has not been preached? If you do, I believe that I can prove you wrong.



I believe that the Gospel has been preached in every country but I am uncertain whether all folks that live in the jungles and away from civilization have been taught the Gospels. Perhaps the preaching of Gods words has been preached in all countries and all nations but am doubtful if all people in the world have been taught about Christ.

Gods Blessings,

Al
damo7



for the ones that are serious in reaching this world for christ were everyone gets to hear the gospel preached i suggest you check with your local missionerys office and ask them for an up dated date showing places were the gospel has been preached and ask also the countrys that have not heard it preached


there are certain parts in iran were the gospel has yet not been preached

i also know of places in africa were tribes have yet not had the gospel preached to them



i am also seeing this in my fiancees country their are parts of the philippines that has not heard the gospel preached for those that say it has due to the strong catholic pressence i say look hard the catholics only focus in the citys their are villages that have yet to hear the gospel preached


if you contac gospel for asia or world vission or talk to some one in your local church i am sure you wil get the information you need

we are not in the end times no matter what is being said in this forum


you wil know when we are in the end times


their are a lot of folk that cant read and these are the folk we are focusing on more then on the ones who have had a good and decent education



i get up dates to the countrys that have had the gospel translated in their own language

in australia their are still aborigonal tribes that have not had the gospel translated in their own langauge each tribe has its own langauge this is what i have noticed when it comes to the aborigonal people our natural Australians


we have the world map on our wall and we pray over the countrys every day

i am even noticing this in my country yugoslavia has yet to hear the gospel preached and it has not reached in all of yugoslavia



God bless from damo



BFSmith
QUOTE (Adonaicole @ Aug 30 2008, 09:50 PM) *
Can anyone mention, one country where the gospel has not been preached? If you do, I believe that I can prove you wrong.


I would say that for the most part only part of the gospel has been preached to the world; the fact that Jesus died for the sin of the world is known and has been preached to around the world, but most are not aware that Jesus will return and set up His kingdom on the earth, and that all the righteous men and women of old right on down to those who make up the Church that Jesus founded will rule with Him, on the earth over the nations. Most are unaware that rather than stand idly around in heaven and gazing into God's glory for all eternity, the saints with Jesus as our elder brother will expand the kingdom of God to all the lifeless planets and galaxy forever. We act as if God created the universe simply just to occupy space and nothing else....this is the other part of the gospel that is largely missing when its being preached.
Mosesjoel
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 30 2008, 01:34 AM) *
high


no not at all and their is one member hear who is against our bible translaters its as if only the ones who have had a good education and can speak english are the ones we should be focusing on


i tend to support our translators and pray gods blessings over them i have a friend who has just tranlated the new testament to the aborigonal tribe he has been working close with this tribe in australia has its own language and it took him and the team under him 4yrs to get the book of luke right so that this tribe can understand what luke had to say

in some parts of my country which is yugoslavia there are a lot of serbs and croations that cant read but can speak the language very well

and i am noticing this in australia i have seen were men and women who cant read or write and it puzzles me how they have survived as in this country you need to know how to read and how to write and how to use a computer as the way the world has changed bosses these days communicate by sending out emails or having you write a written report

security gaurds for example have their own books and in the book you write down what you observe in the sites you are working in you also have a communications book and it needs to be written clear so that your boss and the other gaurds can understand this is how things are done in australia


what i noticed is when jesus picked the 12 not one of them were educated also they had jesus they did not need to read from the bible i have in my home he was like an open book to them


what gets up my nose is how selfish some christians have gotten its like they pick who they want to share the gospel to

in my fiancees country which is the philippines their are people who have not had a good education but have been able to provide for their familys a lot of filapinos cant speak english and tend to speak their langauge

my fiancee and our members have the bible in their own langauge and also have an english verssion in their homes

when i was in the philippines i was taken to this farm my fiancee holds 5 bible study groups on saturday the farm i was taken to this family has just given their lives to the lord they were x catholics my fiancee shared to them in their own langauge with out the family needing to look at the bible

my fiancee told me that their are filapinos who have not bothered to learn to read or write and she explained why

this is something i am going to have to get use to and when i am accepted as a filapino citazen my father in law and my new wife and my mother in law will teach me their language i guess i wil even have to learn how to read and even write in there language

so i say no the gospel has not been preached through out the world or has it reached the ones that jesus wants us to preach to

the end is not near jesus says when the gospel is preached through out the world then the end wil come


we need to do our best to make sure everyone gets a chance to hear the gospel preached if it means learning a new language or supporting the men and women who translate the bible into diffrent languages do it with out whinning and only targetting the ones who speak your language why should we get to a place in our walk were we become selfish



God bless from damo





Wow Damo7, this is something similiar I had, but without preaching...
My wife is also pilipino, but I met her here in The UK and I have explored quite a few places in The Philippines
One tribe took my interest was The Mangyan tribe in Mandoro, they live in the Mountains and wouldnt say they were uneducated as they came down to trade Wild Mountain Honey for basic needs and they had a good grasp of Tagalog (The national language) with their own dialect.
They were really nice people and very humbled so even it is possible just to preach even to them.
Gideon7620
In heaven we see that the Gospel has been preached to every kindred, toungue and nation. This task has certainly not been accomplished. Though we may be near. Remember the words of our Lord, Go ye therefore and teach all nations, bapizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. And lo, I am with you, even until the end of the word. This Gospel of the kingdom must be preached to all nations, and then shall the end come. We have to ask ourselves, what is the end? The end is seen in Revelation 10 as the last angel sounding his trumpet is prophecied. The trumpet blast and the dead rising is clearly seen in Revelation 11, then the end comes. So no, much has to be accomplished before the end comes, and before the Gospel is preached to every kindred, tongue and nation. Persecution seems to be the main factor, that will carry the gospel to the unreached villages or humanity. For such we see an exponential number of saints in Revelation 7 that come out of the Great Tribulation, in other words they are martyrs. Without the shedding of blood there is no remisssion of sin. It seems that the blood of the tribulation martyrs is not spilled in vain, as it brings a multiplicity of people to Christ.
researcher
QUOTE
Has The Gospel Been Preached Throughout The World?


Paul said it was

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

That was, about what.. 60 AD?
Mosesjoel
QUOTE (researcher @ Oct 7 2008, 05:27 PM) *
QUOTE
Has The Gospel Been Preached Throughout The World?


Paul said it was

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

That was, about what.. 60 AD?



Well whatever this passage means it is not literal

Did he go to Australia, America's, The Arctic circle, I don't think so!!!
researcher
QUOTE (Mosesjoel @ Oct 7 2008, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE (researcher @ Oct 7 2008, 05:27 PM) *
QUOTE
Has The Gospel Been Preached Throughout The World?


Paul said it was

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

That was, about what.. 60 AD?



Well whatever this passage means it is not literal

Did he go to Australia, America's, The Arctic circle, I don't think so!!!


Was Paul alone in preaching?
Mosesjoel
Well whatever this passage means it is not literal

Did he go to Australia, America's, The Arctic circle, I don't think so!!!
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Was Paul alone in preaching?
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I am not disputing that as there was other preachers, but look at today's record, tribes and moutain dwellers never heard of the Gospel
We still have other false religions even a 'new' one Islam since 7th Century
researcher
QUOTE (Mosesjoel @ Oct 7 2008, 02:44 PM) *
Well whatever this passage means it is not literal

Did he go to Australia, America's, The Arctic circle, I don't think so!!!

QUOTE
Was Paul alone in preaching?

QUOTE
I am not disputing that as there was other preachers, but look at today's record, tribes and moutain dwellers never heard of the Gospel
We still have other false religions even a 'new' one Islam since 7th Century


Most likely it wasn't literal. He may have meant the "known" world.

As we know, not all of the New Testament is inspired writing. smile.gif
~Selah~
QUOTE (Mosesjoel @ Oct 7 2008, 04:35 PM) *
QUOTE (researcher @ Oct 7 2008, 05:27 PM) *
QUOTE
Has The Gospel Been Preached Throughout The World?


Paul said it was

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

That was, about what.. 60 AD?



Well whatever this passage means it is not literal

Did he go to Australia, America's, The Arctic circle, I don't think so!!!


Paul knew even then around AD 60 that The Gospel had been preached to every creature which is under heaven! How could he know that??? That is the glorious Truth of The Father in Heaven who is and was and is to come. He is both beginning and ending and present. Paul was able to capture that because Paul walked by faith.

When you read the Bible today for example 2 Thess, do you think Paul is talking to you or are you just reading some words Paul was giving the Thessalonians? Remember the Word of Yahweh is Living...not dead.
researcher
QUOTE
Paul knew even then around AD 60 that The Gospel had been preached to every creature which is under heaven! How could he know that??? That is the glorious Truth of The Father in Heaven who is and was and is to come. He is both beginning and ending and present. Paul was able to capture that because Paul walked by faith.


Good point.
NIGHTMARE
The bible has not yet been preached throuout the whole world,,,,,,well at least not to the effect it has to be........

When the elect of God are delivered up before satan/antichrist the whole world will be watching......God will speak through them thus spreading the word of God to the entire world.....

Mark 13:9 "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake,, for a testimony against them."

Mark 13:9 "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them."

These places are the synagogues of Satan, those religious places where people gather to practice their religious traditions. You will be drilled thoroughly for the sake of converting you to the ways of the false christ. Everything that they do to you will be for the sake of Christ's Word, and your position that you take to defend His Word. Thus the fith seal is you being used as a testimony against these religious rulers and leaders. Your testimony is against those that claim to be of the true Christ, when in fact they are teaching the doctrines of Satan, that will lead people to follow him.

Any time someone claims to be of Christ, and does not teach all of God's Word, look out for them. Be very careful, especially when they try to maneuver you into their traditions that go against God's Word, and they make void the prophecies of the Word. That is your destiny friend, to become a witness for God's Word.

Mark 13:10 "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."

This is not happening today, but at a time in the near future when trial are going forth, and the elect is being singled out, and then the Holy Spirit of God will be speaking through His elect and fingering Satan out to be the false messiah.......

Mark 13:11 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost [Spirit]."

When this time comes into being in the very near future, it will not be the elect of God that does the speaking, but the Holy Spirit speaking in and through the mouths of His elect. Every one of these individuals will be delivered before these false councils before the final day.........


~Selah~
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Gospel is a witness. And yes it has been preached, proclaimed and/or published in all nations. Now go to the next verse:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 7 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Gospel is a witness. And yes it has been preached, proclaimed and/or published in all nations. Now go to the next verse:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


I believe much of the gospel has been taught throughout,,,but remember when the elects are deliverd up and give there testimony they will indeed sway some to the side of God.......I kinda think it has alot to do with understanding,,,,,I bet its hecka people that have heard of Christ,,,,,but thats it,,,it ends there......Do you think just hearing the name Christ is enough to say the gospel has been preached or do you think some kind of knowledge has to follow??????????
researcher
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Oct 7 2008, 03:23 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 7 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Gospel is a witness. And yes it has been preached, proclaimed and/or published in all nations. Now go to the next verse:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


I believe much of the gospel has been taught throughout,,,but remember when the elects are deliverd up and give there testimony they will indeed sway some to the side of God.......I kinda think it has alot to do with understanding,,,,,I bet its hecka people that have heard of Christ,,,,,but thats it,,,it ends there......Do you think just hearing the name Christ is enough to say the gospel has been preached or do you think some kind of knowledge has to follow??????????


I think everyone will hear about it when this happens.

Rev 11:3 And I will give unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks, standing before the Lord of the earth.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that cometh up out of the abyss shall make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And from among the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations do men look upon their dead bodies three days and a half, and suffer not their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell on the earth rejoice over them, and make merry; and they shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth.


Whatdya think.. last chance preaching?
~Selah~
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Oct 7 2008, 06:23 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 7 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Gospel is a witness. And yes it has been preached, proclaimed and/or published in all nations. Now go to the next verse:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


I believe much of the gospel has been taught throughout,,,but remember when the elects are deliverd up and give there testimony they will indeed sway some to the side of God.......I kinda think it has alot to do with understanding,,,,,I bet its hecka people that have heard of Christ,,,,,but thats it,,,it ends there......Do you think just hearing the name Christ is enough to say the gospel has been preached or do you think some kind of knowledge has to follow??????????


No no no...Nightmare. Read what Yahshua is saying:
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And then what does he immediately say afterward? He is talking to you, the reader It HAS been preached/proclaimed and/or published.

No it is not enough to just hear the "title" Christ. Not considering His NAME has been removed long time ago...And now hopefully *us* the READER can figure out what has prevented to completion of the effects of the Gospel. I have a clue...

Acts 4:18
And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.

But that's not the name that was originially there.....So now you have a clue and Daniel can even give MORE clues.
damo7
QUOTE (Mosesjoel @ Oct 7 2008, 05:42 PM) *
QUOTE (damo7 @ Aug 30 2008, 01:34 AM) *
high


no not at all and their is one member hear who is against our bible translaters its as if only the ones who have had a good education and can speak english are the ones we should be focusing on


i tend to support our translators and pray gods blessings over them i have a friend who has just tranlated the new testament to the aborigonal tribe he has been working close with this tribe in australia has its own language and it took him and the team under him 4yrs to get the book of luke right so that this tribe can understand what luke had to say

in some parts of my country which is yugoslavia there are a lot of serbs and croations that cant read but can speak the language very well

and i am noticing this in australia i have seen were men and women who cant read or write and it puzzles me how they have survived as in this country you need to know how to read and how to write and how to use a computer as the way the world has changed bosses these days communicate by sending out emails or having you write a written report

security gaurds for example have their own books and in the book you write down what you observe in the sites you are working in you also have a communications book and it needs to be written clear so that your boss and the other gaurds can understand this is how things are done in australia


what i noticed is when jesus picked the 12 not one of them were educated also they had jesus they did not need to read from the bible i have in my home he was like an open book to them


what gets up my nose is how selfish some christians have gotten its like they pick who they want to share the gospel to

in my fiancees country which is the philippines their are people who have not had a good education but have been able to provide for their familys a lot of filapinos cant speak english and tend to speak their langauge

my fiancee and our members have the bible in their own langauge and also have an english verssion in their homes

when i was in the philippines i was taken to this farm my fiancee holds 5 bible study groups on saturday the farm i was taken to this family has just given their lives to the lord they were x catholics my fiancee shared to them in their own langauge with out the family needing to look at the bible

my fiancee told me that their are filapinos who have not bothered to learn to read or write and she explained why

this is something i am going to have to get use to and when i am accepted as a filapino citazen my father in law and my new wife and my mother in law will teach me their language i guess i wil even have to learn how to read and even write in there language

so i say no the gospel has not been preached through out the world or has it reached the ones that jesus wants us to preach to

the end is not near jesus says when the gospel is preached through out the world then the end wil come


we need to do our best to make sure everyone gets a chance to hear the gospel preached if it means learning a new language or supporting the men and women who translate the bible into diffrent languages do it with out whinning and only targetting the ones who speak your language why should we get to a place in our walk were we become selfish



God bless from damo





Wow Damo7, this is something similiar I had, but without preaching...
My wife is also pilipino, but I met her here in The UK and I have explored quite a few places in The Philippines
One tribe took my interest was The Mangyan tribe in Mandoro, they live in the Mountains and wouldnt say they were uneducated as they came down to trade Wild Mountain Honey for basic needs and they had a good grasp of Tagalog (The national language) with their own dialect.
They were really nice people and very humbled so even it is possible just to preach even to them.




high

i have only just signed on forgive me for the late responce i have been running in and out and had not bothered comming back to this post but today i decided to come back

yes i know the tribe my father in law mentioned them to me when i was in the philippines in jan this year i wil be away from the forum as of the 1st of dec and i wil be in the philippines for a month my wedding is on the 18th instead of the 15th of dec it takes two weeks for the application to be aproved


i want to meet this tribe you mentioned and my fiancee has arranged for me to see the rest of the philippines when i am return just before easter starts as i want to see the guys who nail them selves to a cross one guy has done this 22times know i plan to do some wittnessing to these 8 catholics that do this around easter

you are right the filapinos respond so wel to the gospel i am amazed how they show you respect very hospitable people i preach in bacolod jail with my father in law my fiancee is a filapino pastor Mosesjoel



God bles from damo
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (researcher @ Oct 7 2008, 06:29 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Oct 7 2008, 03:23 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 7 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Gospel is a witness. And yes it has been preached, proclaimed and/or published in all nations. Now go to the next verse:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


I believe much of the gospel has been taught throughout,,,but remember when the elects are deliverd up and give there testimony they will indeed sway some to the side of God.......I kinda think it has alot to do with understanding,,,,,I bet its hecka people that have heard of Christ,,,,,but thats it,,,it ends there......Do you think just hearing the name Christ is enough to say the gospel has been preached or do you think some kind of knowledge has to follow??????????


I think everyone will hear about it when this happens.

Rev 11:3 And I will give unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks, standing before the Lord of the earth.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that cometh up out of the abyss shall make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them.
Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Rev 11:9 And from among the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations do men look upon their dead bodies three days and a half, and suffer not their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell on the earth rejoice over them, and make merry; and they shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth.


Whatdya think.. last chance preaching?




bout the same time.....
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 7 2008, 06:36 PM) *
QUOTE (NIGHTMARE @ Oct 7 2008, 06:23 PM) *
QUOTE (~Selah~ @ Oct 7 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


The Gospel is a witness. And yes it has been preached, proclaimed and/or published in all nations. Now go to the next verse:

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


I believe much of the gospel has been taught throughout,,,but remember when the elects are deliverd up and give there testimony they will indeed sway some to the side of God.......I kinda think it has alot to do with understanding,,,,,I bet its hecka people that have heard of Christ,,,,,but thats it,,,it ends there......Do you think just hearing the name Christ is enough to say the gospel has been preached or do you think some kind of knowledge has to follow??????????


No no no...Nightmare. Read what Yahshua is saying:
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And then what does he immediately say afterward? He is talking to you, the reader It HAS been preached/proclaimed and/or published.

No it is not enough to just hear the "title" Christ. Not considering His NAME has been removed long time ago...And now hopefully *us* the READER can figure out what has prevented to completion of the effects of the Gospel. I have a clue...

Acts 4:18
And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.

But that's not the name that was originially there.....So now you have a clue and Daniel can even give MORE clues.




I think you are missing the obvious Selah.......

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

Who is going to be preaching at this time?????The elects,,,,,every one else will be whoring after the Antichrist......

How do you bring the gospel to the whole world?????????

You give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

not only will these with there supernatural powers,,,,,many will be being delivered up,,,, and we will speak in the tongue that is of God the tongue that every man heareth in his own dialect,,,,is it not written?

Mark 13:9 "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them."

Mark 13:10 "And the gospel must first be published among all nations."

Mark 13:11 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost [Spirit]."

Is that not the same spirit that spoke through those on Pentecost day???? Of course it is for when they were the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance

----jump------


8And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

12And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

Indeed the whole world will hear the Gospel but it is not of yet..........

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

If it had been preached the end would be here correct?????????
Gideon7620
QUOTE (researcher @ Oct 7 2008, 05:27 PM) *
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Has The Gospel Been Preached Throughout The World?


Paul said it was

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

That was, about what.. 60 AD?


Gideon siad,

Clearly what you have to understand researcher is that Paul is speaking in the future tense here and past also. In essence, what he is saying is that he was made a minister so that the Gospel will be carried out throughout the world, even in the future. The gospel will be preached unto every creature or ktisis, which means in the Greek, the sum total from beginning unto the end of all that has been created or will be created. The creature here represents a time frame of all creatures to be created.. The heavens declare God's glory or the Glory of the Lord. Hence all men are without excuse. It can also mean a building or creation in the process of being erected or made. So the creations still continue, and the Gospel still continues, until the last day. More proof, even of a post trib rapture, since the ktisis still is being made. Jesus said to go and preach and teach all nations and low I am with you until the end. Hence the Gospel is not done being preached as we have clearly not reached the end as described in scripture. There is more to the scriptures than meets the English language, as clearly demonstrated here. .
Charles Baker
Dear Friends:

Please consider the following:

Mark 13:7-10

And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Charlie -- I read, recently, of the Bible being translated into a very rare language in which it has not been 'published before and I like to think this will complete this sign of the end.

Matt. 24:14-15 and Rev.14:6-7

24:14-15 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Charlie -- This preaching by the angel will take place during the 30 days of Dan.12:11 that will follow the 7 years and it will be at that time the abomination will be set up.

We are very close to the beginning of Daniel's last week so we must all be 'looking up with our heads raised for our redemption', the redemption of our bodies, 'draweth nigh', Luke 21:28

As I see it.

God Bless you. Charlie.
Gideon7620
QUOTE (Charles Baker @ Oct 8 2008, 09:50 AM) *
Dear Friends:

Please consider the following:

Mark 13:7-10

And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Charlie -- I read, recently, of the Bible being translated into a very rare language in which it has not been 'published before and I like to think this will complete this sign of the end.

Matt. 24:14-15 and Rev.14:6-7

24:14-15 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Charlie -- This preaching by the angel will take place during the 30 days of Dan.12:11 that will follow the 7 years and it will be at that time the abomination will be set up.

We are very close to the beginning of Daniel's last week so we must all be 'looking up with our heads raised for our redemption', the redemption of our bodies, 'draweth nigh', Luke 21:28

As I see it.

God Bless you. Charlie.


Gideon said.
The redemption of the body does not come until the last day, so you have atleast 7 years to go. THe last day occurs at the end of the tribulation, no time sooner, sorry to say.

Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.


Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.


Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


The resurrection clearly takes place on the last day, after the last trumpet of Revelation. We see that in Revelation 10 and 11 also.
Time ends and this marks the last day when the 7th angel utters his trumpet.


Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:


Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; [and], behold, the third woe cometh quickly.


Rev 11:15 ¶ And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The seventh angels sounds that last trumpet, time for the earthly kingdoms end, the kingdoms of the world are now become the kingdoms of our lord.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,


Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

The nations grow angry as they see Christ is taking over, but this only brings the wrath of God on them. It is now time for the dead saints to rise and receive their rewards. It is also time to destroy those that destroyed the earth. All this takes place at the end of the world system. Even the resurrection takes place here, as it is time for the dead saints to rise and get their rewards.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Charles Baker
QUOTE (Gideon7620 @ Oct 7 2008, 11:16 PM) *
QUOTE (researcher @ Oct 7 2008, 05:27 PM) *
QUOTE
Has The Gospel Been Preached Throughout The World?


Paul said it was

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

That was, about what.. 60 AD?


Gideon siad,

Clearly what you have to understand researcher is that Paul is speaking in the future tense here and past also. In essence, what he is saying is that he was made a minister so that the Gospel will be carried out throughout the world, even in the future. The gospel will be preached unto every creature or ktisis, which means in the Greek, the sum total from beginning unto the end of all that has been created or will be created. The creature here represents a time frame of all creatures to be created.. The heavens declare God's glory or the Glory of the Lord. Hence all men are without excuse. It can also mean a building or creation in the process of being erected or made. So the creations still continue, and the Gospel still continues, until the last day. More proof, even of a post trib rapture, since the ktisis still is being made. Jesus said to go and preach and teach all nations and low I am with you until the end. Hence the Gospel is not done being preached as we have clearly not reached the end as described in scripture. There is more to the scriptures than meets the English language, as clearly demonstrated here. .


Charlie -- No, Gideon, the Bible has been published in all the nations but it will not be preached to the whole world until the angel of Rev.14:6-7

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Charlie -- Those who are to be resurrected/raptured will be with the Lord in their incorruptible bodies learning what their duties will be during the 1,000 years as they will rule and reign with the Lamb, from heaven, over the nations of the world.

Are you obeying Luke 21:36, Gideon?

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

God Bless you. Charlie.
raysondawn
Act 8:4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

The gospel has been preached everywhere.
It is up to each people to embrace or reject and the blessing or curse is handed down to the next generation.

There is a false doctrine that has circulated for the past 60 years or so that goes something like this:

"Only when every person has heard the gospel can Jesus return to earth"

Well, I got a way to keep him from ever returning.
People just have to keep having babies and man can put it off for ever!

Sounds rediculous doesn't it?

Thats probably because it is.

There are two parts to the gospel
The gospel of Christ that indeed has been preached everywhere.
Then there is the gospel of the kingdom. That has only been preached sparatically throughout the past 1900 years and that is why the "church" is in the shape it is in now.
Charles Baker
QUOTE (Gideon7620 @ Oct 9 2008, 01:00 AM) *
Gideon said.
The redemption of the body does not come until the last day, so you have atleast 7 years to go. THe last day occurs at the end of the tribulation, no time sooner, sorry to say.


Dear Gideon:

What about Daniel 12:11-12, Gideon?

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Charlie -- There will be a 30 day period following the end of the second 1,260 days of the 7 years and another 45 days after the 30 days. How do you explain what will happen during those days, my friend?

QUOTE
Gideon -- The resurrection clearly takes place on the last day, after the last trumpet of Revelation. We see that in Revelation 10 and 11 also.
Time ends and this marks the last day when the 7th angel utters his trumpet.

Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; [and], behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

Rev 11:15 ¶ And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The seventh angels sounds that last trumpet, time for the earthly kingdoms end, the kingdoms of the world are now become the kingdoms of our lord.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

The nations grow angry as they see Christ is taking over, but this only brings the wrath of God on them. It is now time for the dead saints to rise and receive their rewards. It is also time to destroy those that destroyed the earth. All this takes place at the end of the world system. Even the resurrection takes place here, as it is time for the dead saints to rise and get their rewards.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.


Charlie -- Time will be no longer, all right, when the 7th angel sounds and that will be when time ends at the coming of the new heaven and the new earth after the White Throne judgement, my friend. Rev.11:17-18 will take place at the same time, Gideon.

You're away off base, my friend.

As I see it.

God Bless you. Charlie.
BFSmith
QUOTE (Fere @ Aug 29 2008, 08:36 PM) *
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


Has the Gospel been preached throughout the World? I know that some smaller countries or tribes in the World might not have heard the Gospel??? How would you interpret this. (Plus some poor countries have people who can't read).

I was just thinking about this earlier and I was curious to what you think on this.

I see that some believe that this was fulfilled during the Apostolic Age??? Would the "world" in this mean the entire world or just what was considered the world at the time?

Thanks.


In order to know for sure one need to know what is the gospel of the kingdom?
MMarc

When Elijah cried out to God "Am I the only one Lord?".

God told Elijah that He had kept a remant of 7000 that do not bow their knee to Baal.

The gospel has been preached thoughout the world, as a witness to all nations.

I believe God has a remnant of people as well.

I herd an evangelist speak how He was led to a foreign place called 'the ends of the earth"

It was in 1994, in Northenr Siberia the native people there saw a sign in heaven of a cloud in the shape of a man with a sickle.

So when the preacher got there he realised they had never read the bible, so he showed them the passage of Revelation, about someone with the appearance of a son of man with a sickle.

And He converted them.

Most of the world has herd of Jesus one way or another, but Muslims deny Him as Messiah, and Hindus just see Him as another god among many...

But if two or more gather in the name of Jesus then Jesus will be there, and I believe this is true in every single nation of the earth...

The end is the end of an age, not the world, just like Jesus tells of the end also at the fulfillment of the time of the gentiles.

It's the same end as when the gospel is preached...

Again many saints have discerned the spirit of Jesus on earth. Jesus begins His second work at trumpets, at the new moon invisible moon. Jesus will be revealed to more and more people as the day gets brighter.

Just like the first time Jesus resurrected He was discerned gradually to more people until over 500 hundred "saw" Him or recognised Him among the many thousands in Judea and Galilee.

The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy...

The Spirit of the Lord is already at work as the time had to be cut short for the sake of the elect they had to be sealed before the angels unleash the wrath of God.

Rev 7:3 saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.

This is the first resurrection. The Ingathering of the souls.
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