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IrishRose
Dear Vacant,

Yes, I have shown my thorns over the last few weeks and I am not feeling good about it. We used to be good friends, or I thought we were, and I appreciated all you said to me, I did not step over the line, I enjoyed your bouquets, your roses, your happy Scriptures. I only tried that one day to stop a confrontation between you and Chloe, but I did not want to get into the middle of it... and unfortunately it seems I did. I do not really even know her... she was a comfort to me when my dad passed away in February and so I felt to come to her need, but I did it lovingly and then I found that it got out of control. This is how it started with Justice and I.

But I beg your forgiveness and wish to be restored. I forgive you for the things you pointed out about me, and yes, a lot of them are right, I need to learn how to live more by the Scriptures.

I only know a few people on the forum, and they are those who have been here a long while. I came to Chloe's aid because she is my sister in Christ and saw she was hurting. There was nothing more to it,.. and I know I said mean things and even made fun of things that I know are not right (rock bands, etc.). I just felt like you were ruining our thread about having fun, and I truly wish you could have fun too! I know you are more into the non worldly things, but we are just having some fun bringing up memories. I think we all grew up in eras that have good and bad memories... and we just lighten up a bit because the world is so serious.

I have trouble relating to people because of the anger I hold, and I do have a lot of that. I question why God had to take my parents away, and my son to a custody battle (which was not my fault, I just was not rolling in the money so my ex got his way)... no child support, battled as a single mom for 10 years, no child support, no money, almost on the streets. I turned to alcohol to help me get through those times, but thankfully not for long. I attempted suicide three times because I felt I could no longer go on. I lost a baby in 1994 due to kidney failure. He was only 5 months old. He died in my arms, turned blue and was lifeless. I felt like my life ended. So I am on this board to get comfort from people who understand. People who have lost friends, family, children. People who understand what it's like to have an addiction or have attempted suicide. I am angry at God a lot but try hard to just understand that it's faith based and that the world is also filled with spiritual activity that has nothing to do with us.

All this I really ruminated on over the last few days even while feeling like I needed to 'get back at you' for doing something to Chloe. Gosh, I hardly even know here but I was coming to her aid. I do this to many people I don't know. So call me a liar if I said she was a GOOD friend of mine, as I have in the past to others so they would back off.

I just really want to make it right with you and have you know where I am coming from. The anger was indeed pointed towards you and it was more to vent than to pick on you. I am terribly sorry and I pray for your forgiveness and mercy towards me.

I know there is not much else I can do, but I will not be posting much on here anymore... the moderators told me that next time I make one more remark I will be removed. So I will say goodbye here and just lurk a bit... I have learned a lot and been here many years, but I really do believe these are the last days and we are to take heed (and no, I don't believe that all music is okay). I am sorry for joking, that was not nice and that is something God is dealing with me about. I just like to have fun and laugh. Lord knows most of my life I have been crying and this is my first opportunity in years to laugh.

I'm sorry if that bothered you and I do believe the words of the Lord, I just also need to laugh and not be so serious.

I hope you can understand and we can go back to being friends. I really have no agenda at all... and for some reason you think I do. I don't. Lisa and I made up, Justice and I made up (I'm hoping she forgave me), I even asked the moderators to let her back in. I have a few friends on here but have alienated a lot of them due to contention. I think my time is up here... I just wanted to make it right with you and tell you that I am really sorry. I liked the Vacant that used to be so nice and send me Scriptures at night. We can love with the love of God and I have never stepped over the line. I am sorry for putting those words about you on the website and I forgive you for posting my private message to you.

Once again, I wish to make amends and restore what we once had, which was a platonic relationship in Christ... but in unity.

Thank you for listening to me today. I will leave now.

Rose
Humble Bob
That was courageous to openly post as you just did smile.gif

Rose, even the moderators must know Luke 17:4

I pray that you are far from ever being restricted here wub.gif
Messiahiscoming
It was very courageous! I love you my daughter.... and always will. I have no idea what this thread is about or what has really happened between the 2 of you. I do know however we all do and say things that we are sorry for and regret. I know that I personally do this more often than I care to admit. I am just so grateful that you are willing to see this and open your heart and make it right. That is what it is all about. I desire forgiveness and mercy when I have wronged others and pray that is what I get in return.

Rose I know that you have been through so much over the past several years and I pray that the Lord will bring comfort and healing to your hurting heart. The Lord bless you my friend..... I love you sweetie!

I pray that the Moderators would never ban someone that is quick to realize their wrongs and seek forgiveness. We all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. I realize that as Paul says, "what then shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!" Yet when a brother or sister has erred and seeks forgiveness then I think we have no choice but to extend that grace..... mercy and forgiveness back to them.

Love in Christ,
Valerie (MOM)
Messiahiscomong
IrishRose
Thank you Bob and Val, but I just can't talk much right now, I don't feel very good about many things I did. Just taking a time out. sad.gif

Love you all,
Rose xoxoxo
blessedinva
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 8 2008, 12:01 PM) *
Dear Vacant,

Yes, I have shown my thorns over the last few weeks and I am not feeling good about it. We used to be good friends, or I thought we were, and I appreciated all you said to me, I did not step over the line, I enjoyed your bouquets, your roses, your happy Scriptures. I only tried that one day to stop a confrontation between you and Chloe, but I did not want to get into the middle of it... and unfortunately it seems I did. I do not really even know her... she was a comfort to me when my dad passed away in February and so I felt to come to her need, but I did it lovingly and then I found that it got out of control. This is how it started with Justice and I.

But I beg your forgiveness and wish to be restored. I forgive you for the things you pointed out about me, and yes, a lot of them are right, I need to learn how to live more by the Scriptures.

I only know a few people on the forum, and they are those who have been here a long while. I came to Chloe's aid because she is my sister in Christ and saw she was hurting. There was nothing more to it,.. and I know I said mean things and even made fun of things that I know are not right (rock bands, etc.). I just felt like you were ruining our thread about having fun, and I truly wish you could have fun too! I know you are more into the non worldly things, but we are just having some fun bringing up memories. I think we all grew up in eras that have good and bad memories... and we just lighten up a bit because the world is so serious.

I have trouble relating to people because of the anger I hold, and I do have a lot of that. I question why God had to take my parents away, and my son to a custody battle (which was not my fault, I just was not rolling in the money so my ex got his way)... no child support, battled as a single mom for 10 years, no child support, no money, almost on the streets. I turned to alcohol to help me get through those times, but thankfully not for long. I attempted suicide three times because I felt I could no longer go on. I lost a baby in 1994 due to kidney failure. He was only 5 months old. He died in my arms, turned blue and was lifeless. I felt like my life ended. So I am on this board to get comfort from people who understand. People who have lost friends, family, children. People who understand what it's like to have an addiction or have attempted suicide. I am angry at God a lot but try hard to just understand that it's faith based and that the world is also filled with spiritual activity that has nothing to do with us.

All this I really ruminated on over the last few days even while feeling like I needed to 'get back at you' for doing something to Chloe. Gosh, I hardly even know here but I was coming to her aid. I do this to many people I don't know. So call me a liar if I said she was a GOOD friend of mine, as I have in the past to others so they would back off.

I just really want to make it right with you and have you know where I am coming from. The anger was indeed pointed towards you and it was more to vent than to pick on you. I am terribly sorry and I pray for your forgiveness and mercy towards me.

I know there is not much else I can do, but I will not be posting much on here anymore... the moderators told me that next time I make one more remark I will be removed. So I will say goodbye here and just lurk a bit... I have learned a lot and been here many years, but I really do believe these are the last days and we are to take heed (and no, I don't believe that all music is okay). I am sorry for joking, that was not nice and that is something God is dealing with me about. I just like to have fun and laugh. Lord knows most of my life I have been crying and this is my first opportunity in years to laugh.

I'm sorry if that bothered you and I do believe the words of the Lord, I just also need to laugh and not be so serious.

I hope you can understand and we can go back to being friends. I really have no agenda at all... and for some reason you think I do. I don't. Lisa and I made up, Justice and I made up (I'm hoping she forgave me), I even asked the moderators to let her back in. I have a few friends on here but have alienated a lot of them due to contention. I think my time is up here... I just wanted to make it right with you and tell you that I am really sorry. I liked the Vacant that used to be so nice and send me Scriptures at night. We can love with the love of God and I have never stepped over the line. I am sorry for putting those words about you on the website and I forgive you for posting my private message to you.

Once again, I wish to make amends and restore what we once had, which was a platonic relationship in Christ... but in unity.

Thank you for listening to me today. I will leave now.

Rose


I hope you find the grace that is truly who Jesus is - truth and grace. That is towards people who do not deserve it.

The hallmark of being a Christian is forgiveness and humility. Grace is loving someone NOT based on who they are and what they do...grace is not just agreeing with people who agree with you sister...

A mature believer reveals themselves in how they respond to attack- do they love their enemies? Do they bless those who curse them?
Sister there are those here who walk in the spirit of Christ who are loving, forgiving, meek, gentle...fellowship with them and be encouraged.

In the Kingdom, where Jesus rules, it's not like in the world- you don't have to run away- your sisters and brothers offer you grace, mercy, and love in Him.

People who walk in unforgiveness and bitterness are under danger of judgment. May they humble themselves and return to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sisters. be very discerning who you attach yourselves too here. The Word says we are easily deceived...personally I think that means we can judge people wrong
and teachings wrong...so let your head by Jesus Christ and your husband...not a brother here or a pastor...that is asking for trouble...

May the Good Shepherd pick you up, nurse your wounds, and feed your with the milk and meat of His word that will be living water to your heart.


(((((HUG)))))
April
blessedinva
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 8 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Thank you Bob and Val, but I just can't talk much right now, I don't feel very good about many things I did. Just taking a time out. sad.gif

Love you all,
Rose xoxoxo



Rose, worldy sorrow brings death- but when you repent - it means you change your mind.

So, if the word shows you how you were in sin, you can repent and the Lord cleanses you.

You don't need to stew in self hate or condemnation sis. Draw near to the Lord, and he will draw near to you. He will then guide you as you hear His voice to
safe pastures, where you can lie down and rest, with Him guarding you.

Love,

April

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IAMlives
Dear Rose,
Wow... I didn't know you had endured so much hurt in your life as you described. I sincerely hope and pray that our God of all comfort, will comfort you and heal these hurts. This is courageous of you to open up like this and to seek forgiveness. I pray that vacant will come and join in this thread and that there will be healing and restoration.

((((((((Rose)))))))))) ...you can talk to me anytime...I truly understand so much of what you described.

Your friend,
Kim
IAMlives
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 8 2008, 01:39 PM) *
Thank you Bob and Val, but I just can't talk much right now, I don't feel very good about many things I did. Just taking a time out. sad.gif

Love you all,
Rose xoxoxo


((((ROSE))))

I pray that God will encourage you...and heal your guilt/shame. Please don't give into thoughts of condemnation...I do understand though that these feelings are very fresh, and it may take a few days to shake those feeling completely off, but you have done the right thing sweetie!

God bless you greatly!!!

xoxo,
Kim

God's Lamb
Hello IrishRose wub.gif



I'm part Irish, and sometimes my mouth engages faster than my mind and heart. blush.gif

I too offended Vacant once. I too, was very wrong, very wrong. I misunderstood her, and old feelings surfaced within me and I was upset wit her, and wanted to know what I had done. What I had done was to misunderstand her good sweet compliment to me. I thought she was making fun of me. Which hurt me and made me very upset. It's a long story, but I alway felt like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz, who was looking for a brain...I could relate to him. Oh, just a minute, the Lab just called and said my brain is ready! laugh.gif So watch out.... wink.gif

I don't know what was all said and done, but one can not take back the "words" once they flow out of our mouth. I wish I could grab them and shove them back in or had a "magic marker" that would erase, the things I have said, and done in my life, but I don't.

But, I do have a Savior Who has amazing grace and He did forgive me for my actions! But, the consequences of my sins, I have to work out here, on earth, that is not always easy to do! But, you took the right step, IishRose, and that took courage.

What you might want to do as a reminder to not attack someone is to put "duck tape" by your comptuer.....so you can slap it across your mouth or hands! laugh.gif Just teasing you. You see, being Irish I like to laugh too! Actually, I happen to have a large supply of "duck tape" on hand. smile.gif

Vacant is a beautiful person full of Grace, I am sure when she gets over feeling betrayed and hurt by your remarks, that she will forgive you. But, sometimes that takes time. wub.gif We retreat to our "cave" when we've been hurt, and it takes a while to come back out. It seems to me that the people who have the most Grace are those who have been hurt much worse than you and I, and we just don't see the scars.


We are all "angels with dirty faces"...... wub.gif

God Bless <>< wub.gif





God's Lamb
Hello again, IrishRose

I hope what I said, in the earlier post, doesn't hurt your feelings, IrishRose if I did, please forgive me. blush.gif I did not mean to make lite of your sufferings. We are all like unread books, full of pain, sorrow, and grief, some more some less.

But, life has shown me that those who have the greatest amount of forgiveness and Grace are those who walked through Dachu's Consentration Camps and out the other door. I've meet Jews who were in the camps, and I can't begin to tell you the Grace and forgivness, I've witnessed in my life from them. It makes my life look like Cinderella compared to their suffering and pain. That's what I meant when I said, others who have greater amounts of Grace have been hurt the worst, and who scars we do not see.

And that does not mean that I don't think you have not suffered, greatly, for it sounds like you have. For that, I am truly sorry. I understand loss, grief, and pain. Everyday, the Lord walks me through each day, as He does each and everyone of us. Sometimes, it just feels likes He gone out to lunch. blush.gif But, it was reaally us who step out to lunch, not Him, we just didn't realize it. mellow.gif

God Bless <>< you Irish Rose wub.gif
IrishRose
Kim, and God's Lamb... THANK YOU!

God's Lamb.. you didn't SAY ANYTHING that offended me... nothing at all, and thank you for having such a sensitive spirit as well as being so sweet and kind to me. I just prefer to take some time off and let things die down a bit. I am not leaving forever, just for now. I need to do some praying, some thinking... that is necessary for me.

I also am so busy and know I did enough damage these last few weeks, my kids start school soon and I am overwhelmed by so many things. But I do thank you all for your grace and forgiveness. I know Vacant has not posted, so I guess he has not accepted my apology... but that's okay. I know my heart and am happy with who I am.. maybe not who I was for the last few weeks, but now I am. Thank you again for your love. You are all so kind and I don't deserve it. sad.gif I will just take time to realize what I did and then come back and just be a reader, a lurker, a prayer warrior. smile.gif And of course, be back in the JUST FOR FUN section as I love to laugh like you, God's Lamb.

I did get your comment, Kimi... I am sorry but shut down my PM's... just don't want to have to keep jumping on and off the board when I want to be away from it. I hope you will all understand. Out of sight, out of mind... and onto other things.

I appreciate all your thoughts.. really and truly! Vacant, if you are reading this, I do forgive you and wish you could forgive me too. You'd have to post here because my PM is out. And I have a private email addy.

God bless you! Rose
IrishRose
I forgot to thank Blessedinva... so sorry... you have made many very sweet comments and things I will definitely think about. Thank you so much and for the link as well. You are special... xo Rose
happy2Bfree



Love ya girl! This took guts. Been there and done that.

Lets keep praying.

Adeline
Rose,

I don't understand any of this? In the short time I have known you, I have grown to love you. Vacant has clearly forgiven you and he clearly has expressed his love for you in his profile. Vacant is also taking time away from this forum into the arms of Jesus. I've got to go....hopefully all will be back to normal soon.

In Christian Love,

Al
crownsevenalphabet
Abdul: I Dedicate, The `treasures In Jars Of Clay`, to your dream ( CLAY, research included )
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...c=21316&hl=

2 Corinthians 4

Treasures in Jars of Clay


7But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 8We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed.
God's Lamb
Hello IrishRose biggrin.gif

I did it again.... Holy Cow....Jeepers, I hate that. It wasn't Vacant I offended it was "Crownsevenalphab" (Betty)!! So sorry Betty, I got mix up between people.....Holy Cow! blush.gif blink.gif

I was thinking of "crownsevenalphab".....of being full of Grace, at least for my part where I stepped on my tongue and slipped and fell in, and now lay inside out on the floor! laugh.gif

I like Vacant....I thought Vacant was a women.....Oh, I am so confussed blink.gif wacko.gif

Will someone call for a Medic....please. wub.gif It's dangerous to slip on your tongue. blink.gif

God Bless <>< wub.gif
IrishRose
God's Lamb,

No worries, we all make mistakes.. but you made me laugh and that's good! smile.gif

Cindy, thanks.. xo

And thank you Al, but Vacant did not let me know he apologized by comment or anything... I had NO IDEA he had posted anything on his profile until I read your remark. I know you don't understand, but it's not really anything to understand.. we just had some words back and forth and i am apologizing for that. No worries... I love ya!

Thank you Betty... you're a love!

I just had to thank you all.. I really do need rest! smile.gif

xoxoxo Have a great weekend... And Kimi, no worries about me.. we'll be in touch soon.

Love ya all,
Rose
Adeline
QUOTE (God's Lamb @ Aug 8 2008, 08:28 PM) *
Hello IrishRose biggrin.gif

I did it again.... Holy Cow....Jeepers, I hate that. It wasn't Vacant I offended it was "Crownsevenalphab" (Betty)!! So sorry Betty, I got mix up between people.....Holy Cow! blush.gif blink.gif

I was thinking of "crownsevenalphab".....of being full of Grace, at least for my part where I stepped on my tongue and slipped and fell in, and now lay inside out on the floor! laugh.gif

I like Vacant....I thought Vacant was a women.....Oh, I am so confussed blink.gif wacko.gif

Will someone call for a Medic....please. wub.gif It's dangerous to slip on your tongue. blink.gif

God Bless <>< wub.gif



Gods Lamb,

Been there, done that. Seems I'm always slipping on my tongue and guess what? A tongue is even more slippery than a banana peel.

Gods Blessings,

Al
signet


maybe this will help...

whenever you see a banana...keep your thoughts to yourself and you will never slip!

love,
signet
damo7




Remember what i said sister dont grovel to know one and dont let no one take that joy or the peace you feel from you only say sorry when the holy spirit places it on you rose


you have a soft heart and a good nature and gentleness dont let no one rub the salt to were you are having to stand up for your self

i am praying for you and i do read what is left in this forum


God bless from your brother in the lord damo smile.gif
Roxygal
Praying for you.. smile.gif
Adeline
Rose,

I pray that you are feeling better today. I read again your testimony and I am so sorry that you have been so hurt by the circumstances in life. But, what doesn't kill us only makes us stronger. I remember a comment Charles Swindoll said once: "Sometimes we have to be broken greatly before we can be used greatly." Looking back at my life, this quote makes perfect sense in less than perfect circumstances. Our Lord created the master plan in our very lives and everything that happens has a reason...a purpose. For instance one of my most painful times in life to endure was all those years of infertality. There are benefits because of the times that I cried....an adoption that changed and molded a young boys life...my husband and I sharing our story with another couple who themselves decided to adopt two children from Guatemala...and who knows who they shared their story with? Can't you feel the ripples caused by the storms in life, that leave a personal touch on all those people who have shed the same tears. Yes, it is God. God has a masterplan.

Rose, share your hurt and your anger with God. God understands your anger, he understands that your angry with Him at times...in fact God is kind of use to having people angry with Him. When I feel myself simmering with anger, I need to go off by myself and have a one to one talk with God. Sometimes that just means that I vent all my hurts and heartaches to the Lord.

Rose, you care about the feelings of people. You are authentic, sincere, compassionate, and down to earth. You have asked the mods to allow Justice posting priviledges again. Got to tell you my friend, Justice was responsible for so much discord on this forum and if/when she returns I personally am not going to turn away from any mischief that she causes. Justice is a hurting individual who becomes caustic and abrasive whenever she is having a bad day. I'm sorry her mood should not be allowed to run rampant on this forum. A long time ago I realized that sometimes for our own well being we may need to stay clear of certain people. We can pray for them, love them, but in order that we avoid certain sins we just need to stay away from them. A long time ago a minister said something to me that made no sense at the time...as time goes by its beginning to make sense. "I don't have to like the other person, but I have to love them." Through the years I have learned that I don't have to like the things people do and say but with Gods help I can love them. In this love I am not to keep enabling their bad behaviors.

I have to go to work. You're in my prayers.

Love,

Al
Roxygal
You just can't let things go can you Al? This thread is about Rose and you are still bashing Justice. And for what? Will that make Rose feel better? I don't think so. In my opinion, you don't know what true love is. And where in the bible does it say, I don't have to like them, just love them. That's not biblical. You were right to question your pastor in the first place..it doesn't make sense because it is not a biblical response. Time is short...seek the Lord with everything you have.
meli
Dear Rose,
I've been busy lately and not posting, I'm trying to move house and things are very hectic but I've been trying to read here every day. Goodness knows without Lois and benny I'd have no proper news!
I know I don't know you but I'm sorry to hear about the things you have been through and that you have had a rough time. sad.gif As I mentioned elsewhere here I lost a baby long ago also, 4 1/2 months into my pregnancy. A loss of a child is so hard for others to understand around you sometimes even when you have another child to replace the lost one. I am so sorry for your loss.
I'm glad you have forgiven Justice. That is wonderful and I am sure God will bless you for this. I hope things will improve for you and you will feel better soon!
Love,
Mel
IrishRose
Thank you Al, Lisa, Meli,

You are all special to me, and I appreciate your understanding.

Al, yes, I have forgiven Justice and I do think she deserves another chance. It is not up to me though. I really just want to let that go. Just like with all the other quarrels.

I am sad and just need more time to get through some of the things I said that didn't make me feel very good.

Angelmae, know that I read your Pm and will respond shortly, but I just need a day off. I will curl up with a blanket like you said, and ask for the Lord's comfort.

Meli, so sorry you lost a baby too and pray that all goes well with your moving and unpacking. Been there, yuck.

Love to you all,
Rose


Oops... forgot my loving Damo... thank you Brother.. not groveling, just know that I need time to work things out. smile.gif I know that the Lord has forgiven me, now it's up to MAN to do the same... I have forgiven but I know there are some that have not... and that's okay. The Lord knows my heart.

God bless you! Rose
benny balerio
In the Word of God,....God says...."And there was a "MAN" named John the Baptist.......

It takes a man to stand up for Jesus to the world.

It takes a "WOMAN to admit that she was wrong and ask to be forgiven!

Therefore Rose,........You are truely a woman, and a sister in Christ Jesus.

..........................................benny cool.gif
IrishRose
Aw shucks, thanks Benny... I give GOD the credit.. he had me kicking and screaming all the way to the Mercy Seat! smile.gif
wub.gif

Adeline
Rose,

I am very glad that your back in our Forum Family. Vacant might be back sooner then we think.

Gods Blessings,

Al
sharon
QUOTE (IrishRose @ Aug 8 2008, 01:01 PM) *
Dear Vacant,

Yes, I have shown my thorns over the last few weeks and I am not feeling good about it. We used to be good friends, or I thought we were, and I appreciated all you said to me, I did not step over the line, I enjoyed your bouquets, your roses, your happy Scriptures. I only tried that one day to stop a confrontation between you and Chloe, but I did not want to get into the middle of it... and unfortunately it seems I did. I do not really even know her... she was a comfort to me when my dad passed away in February and so I felt to come to her need, but I did it lovingly and then I found that it got out of control. This is how it started with Justice and I.

But I beg your forgiveness and wish to be restored. I forgive you for the things you pointed out about me, and yes, a lot of them are right, I need to learn how to live more by the Scriptures.

I only know a few people on the forum, and they are those who have been here a long while. I came to Chloe's aid because she is my sister in Christ and saw she was hurting. There was nothing more to it,.. and I know I said mean things and even made fun of things that I know are not right (rock bands, etc.). I just felt like you were ruining our thread about having fun, and I truly wish you could have fun too! I know you are more into the non worldly things, but we are just having some fun bringing up memories. I think we all grew up in eras that have good and bad memories... and we just lighten up a bit because the world is so serious.

I have trouble relating to people because of the anger I hold, and I do have a lot of that. I question why God had to take my parents away, and my son to a custody battle (which was not my fault, I just was not rolling in the money so my ex got his way)... no child support, battled as a single mom for 10 years, no child support, no money, almost on the streets. I turned to alcohol to help me get through those times, but thankfully not for long. I attempted suicide three times because I felt I could no longer go on. I lost a baby in 1994 due to kidney failure. He was only 5 months old. He died in my arms, turned blue and was lifeless. I felt like my life ended. So I am on this board to get comfort from people who understand. People who have lost friends, family, children. People who understand what it's like to have an addiction or have attempted suicide. I am angry at God a lot but try hard to just understand that it's faith based and that the world is also filled with spiritual activity that has nothing to do with us.

All this I really ruminated on over the last few days even while feeling like I needed to 'get back at you' for doing something to Chloe. Gosh, I hardly even know here but I was coming to her aid. I do this to many people I don't know. So call me a liar if I said she was a GOOD friend of mine, as I have in the past to others so they would back off.

I just really want to make it right with you and have you know where I am coming from. The anger was indeed pointed towards you and it was more to vent than to pick on you. I am terribly sorry and I pray for your forgiveness and mercy towards me.

I know there is not much else I can do, but I will not be posting much on here anymore... the moderators told me that next time I make one more remark I will be removed. So I will say goodbye here and just lurk a bit... I have learned a lot and been here many years, but I really do believe these are the last days and we are to take heed (and no, I don't believe that all music is okay). I am sorry for joking, that was not nice and that is something God is dealing with me about. I just like to have fun and laugh. Lord knows most of my life I have been crying and this is my first opportunity in years to laugh.

I'm sorry if that bothered you and I do believe the words of the Lord, I just also need to laugh and not be so serious.

I hope you can understand and we can go back to being friends. I really have no agenda at all... and for some reason you think I do. I don't. Lisa and I made up, Justice and I made up (I'm hoping she forgave me), I even asked the moderators to let her back in. I have a few friends on here but have alienated a lot of them due to contention. I think my time is up here... I just wanted to make it right with you and tell you that I am really sorry. I liked the Vacant that used to be so nice and send me Scriptures at night. We can love with the love of God and I have never stepped over the line. I am sorry for putting those words about you on the website and I forgive you for posting my private message to you.

Once again, I wish to make amends and restore what we once had, which was a platonic relationship in Christ... but in unity.

Thank you for listening to me today. I will leave now.

Rose


A lot of times, physical problems or medication can taint our general moods and outlook. Didn't you recently have surgery? Could you be on pain medication or have a temporary hormone imbalance? Remember Rose, perfect people have a hard time accepting Jesus. Those of us who have had trials, hardships, and suffered from mental stress and insecurity, are the ones who accept Him with open arms. Be easier on yourself, and don't try to analyze everything until you get better. Wherever there are people working and communicating with each other, there are always problems now and then. When I feel down, I just sit back and listen to others until I get emotionally stable. We all have bad days, and like I said, sometimes, pain and illness effect the way we communicate and even the way we think. Sit back, be patient, and learn new things while you're at it. In the meantime, I am going to pray about the pain you have complained about for so long.....love you, Sharon
Adeline
Rose,

I am glad that you have forgiven Justice, I really am. I have also forgiven her but do not want her to revert back to her old behavior. Forgiveness is not the only ingredient needed in the healing stage but also repentence. I am one poster that would feel a little bit better if Justice apologized to the people that she has hurt in this forum. We can forgive but she still needs to repent, after-all there are some folks that she has hurt by the verbal stones she has thrown.

I do love Justice for being a child of God, but I do not like nor enjoy seeing bad behavior so openly displayed. Irish Rose, God gave us Biblical sound ways on how to forgive and how to repent. Tomorrow, I shall look up those verses. But, this is where you folks are confusing me: Isn't there any sort of consequences for sin? Ummm....

Love You,

Al
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (Adeline @ Aug 10 2008, 02:00 AM) *
Rose,

I am glad that you have forgiven Justice, I really am. I have also forgiven her but do not want her to revert back to her old behavior. Forgiveness is not the only ingredient needed in the healing stage but also repentence. I am one poster that would feel a little bit better if Justice apologized to the people that she has hurt in this forum. We can forgive but she still needs to repent, after-all there are some folks that she has hurt by the verbal stones she has thrown.

I do love Justice for being a child of God, but I do not like nor enjoy seeing bad behavior so openly displayed. Irish Rose, God gave us Biblical sound ways on how to forgive and how to repent. Tomorrow, I shall look up those verses. But, this is where you folks are confusing me: Isn't there any sort of consequences for sin? Ummm....

Love You,

Al




Sometimes we start with a word ( FORGIVENESS ) and the perspective of the word,
grows into an extension of our limits. God (IHVH) is limitless, the Ain Sof of the universe.
However, when we set the fence (Cheth), of boundaries around forgiveness . . . those
boundaries keep things out, hold things in.

Boundaries (Cheth), are important.

Only human's can mix up the limitless value of forgiveness. The Lord, gets it right
24/7.



POST# 22
Anagrams, (Some anagrams of my full name.)
http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry220919


I found it very inspiring, if you look up the anagram for the
word forgiveness, it relates to the FIG tree. The `seven figs or` . . .
think of reference to the 7 Festivals (timelines), the Menorah (7) Lights,
. . . 'Serve Figs On` . . . yes, the law of forgiveness, serves the
Israel people on the wing of Christ . . . 'Serve of Sign`, indeed the
forgiveness offered via slain lamb, Christ Messiah, is serving as
a sign . . . of the Fig Tree Prophecy . . . SEVER : transitive verb: to put or
keep apart : divide; especially : to remove (as a part) by or as if by cutting
[intransitive verb]: to become separated . . .'Sever Fig Son`,
yes . . . we do not want to become separated (sever) from the Fig Tree Prophecy,
of the Return of the Son Jesus Christ . . .
. . . 'Verse of Son`, how many verses of the sign of forgiveness
through the Son, answer is 30 Biblical references to the Fig Tree in
scripture.
Pinky
aaww mum rose, i have only just managed to properly read this thread and im so sorry for what you had to go through sad.gif i dont know what its like to loose a child but i do know the pain and suffering when you attempt to committ suicide...been there and done that, never doing it again and i have also seen and helped others who have felt like that too just from my own suffering.
you know im here for you smile.gif

and im glad you have fixed things with Vacant.

love you heaps and always praying for you xoxoxox

love booger
Adam Weishaupt
God bless you Irishrose. Receive the abondant mercy the Messiah pours out on you in Jesus' name!

I just want to add that maybe I shouldn't have posted those funny old pics of Stryper. In my heart I truly was trying to lighten everyone's mood and not maliciously poke fun at Vacant personally. I thought it was obvious that he would not be a Stryper fan and so it was obvious that I was kidding. That is just the way I am and I would laugh at something like that if it were done to me. Maybe others don't see it that way. I don't know. I hope I didn't cause you to stumble and laugh at anyone instead of with others. I wanted us all to start to laugh together instead of getting all riled up like things were. Forgive me if I made things any worse.

I can't help but laugh at old pics of Stryper because they were made out to be such a hardcore, Satanic, heavy metal band. I went and watched their videos and listened to their old hits and they are not "heavy" in any sense of the word! LOL. Their lyrics are edifying if anything. How could Christians demonize such an utterly benign band? I don't agree with the way they sort of looked femenine at all though. That is truly Satanic. I just personally think that the church often makes much ado about nothing, like Stryper. Yes, they look a lot like the world and they played the popular musical styles of the world of that time (the specific musical style does not matter much to me personally). But that is more a matter of spiritual maturity and conviction that it is an issue of sin or salvation.
IrishRose
Thank you Pinky... I really was not trying to evoke any sympathy from the forum, but my PMs wouldn't go through to Vacant as he blocked them, so I put up what I wrote without editing it... when I realized it was up, I figured if I changed it then it wouldn't be what Imeant to say... but thank you, yes, I have had a rough time of it, and I appreciate your love and kindness. smile.gif We all have our ups and downs, some the downs more than others, but the Lord says the last shall be first, the first shall be last... the more downs I have means I'm getting lower on the ladder... I want to be last! wink.gif

Eliyahuzion.. no, you didn't offend at all... I got a laugh out of it... I think your explanation says it all and you have a very big heart.. thank you... you're a blessing... I'm sorry to YOU for thinking you may be someone else. I think they recycle names here?? LOL. Just kidding.. you're great, no apologies necessary! smile.gif

Happy Sunday everyone.. this is the DAY THE LORD HAS MADE, let us REJOICE and be GLAD IN IT! smile.gif wub.gif
Adam Weishaupt
Acuna ma tata! 1dsz5e4.gif
IrishRose
You saw our Disney comment! smile.gif LOL... funny! My kids always loved that one, the Lion King...

smile.gif
GodLovesYou
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voice
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 21 2008, 01:46 PM) *
The apology no longer applies to Vacant... but the forum as a whole. Vacant continues to belittle and needle with contention and cut/paste and do all other things that are unbecoming to a Christian, so I have made a mistake about his character. My remarks still stand to make this place better, restoring Justice and getting back to the board we used to know. Not one that has people who stalk others and follow them around the forum (like now... hi Voice! There is an evil spirit over this board and it has been here for a while, I can feel it every time I sign on)... and it is having its fun... but hey, I guess it never ends, but i'm going to bed. OY! Yes, and he's still here, with Chloe.. they're all here so they can make a remark when I leave. Isn't it cozy? The gang's all here. You accuse ME of not laying it down and you both are sitting right there right below here, I see you and you wait to pounce. It's demonic. Nighty night!




God's Word says :

James 1:7-9

7For let not that one think that they shall receive anything of the Lord.

8A double minded person is unstable in all their ways.

9 But let the denigrated brother rejoice in that he is exalted:

happy2Bfree
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 20 2008, 11:46 PM) *
The apology no longer applies to Vacant... but the forum as a whole. Vacant continues to belittle and needle with contention and cut/paste and do all other things that are unbecoming to a Christian, so I have made a mistake about his character. My remarks still stand to make this place better, restoring Justice and getting back to the board we used to know. Not one that has people who stalk others and follow them around the forum (like now... hi Voice! There is an evil spirit over this board and it has been here for a while, I can feel it every time I sign on)... and it is having its fun... but hey, I guess it never ends, but i'm going to bed. OY! Yes, and he's still here, with Chloe.. they're all here so they can make a remark when I leave. Isn't it cozy? The gang's all here. You accuse ME of not laying it down and you both are sitting right there right below here, I see you and you wait to pounce. It's demonic. Nighty night!


Umm....YOU POINTED BACK TO THIS THREAD!

QUOTE
Read my comment on that thread, nighty night!

Posted by YOU at 10:47 p.m. Wednesday.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry225239

Nobody is stalking you. But as I said....you will get a response from me when you keep attacking me.

You have no right to talk about what is unbecoming as a Christian about anyone on this forum. What you did yesterday was about as low as I have ever known someone to be. What you did was not only non Christian...but pure EVIL!

Your attitude is what is demonic. You have extreme rage and bitterness. I know because I have felt it in the messages you sent me in the Yahoo IM.

Let it go. There is no reason for your rage.
GodLovesYou
Lies/Slandering/more excuses for not taking responsibility for the Truth.
GodLovesYou
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happy2Bfree
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 21 2008, 12:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Chloé @ Aug 21 2008, 12:59 AM) *
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 20 2008, 11:46 PM) *
The apology no longer applies to Vacant... but the forum as a whole. Vacant continues to belittle and needle with contention and cut/paste and do all other things that are unbecoming to a Christian, so I have made a mistake about his character. My remarks still stand to make this place better, restoring Justice and getting back to the board we used to know. Not one that has people who stalk others and follow them around the forum (like now... hi Voice! There is an evil spirit over this board and it has been here for a while, I can feel it every time I sign on)... and it is having its fun... but hey, I guess it never ends, but i'm going to bed. OY! Yes, and he's still here, with Chloe.. they're all here so they can make a remark when I leave. Isn't it cozy? The gang's all here. You accuse ME of not laying it down and you both are sitting right there right below here, I see you and you wait to pounce. It's demonic. Nighty night!


Umm....YOU POINTED BACK TO THIS THREAD.
****Um, no I didn't, your friend did on his Choirmaster thread, check it out.

QUOTE
Read my comment on that thread, nighty night!

Posted by YOU at 10:47 p.m. Wednesday.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry225239

Nobody is stalking you. But as I said....you will get a response from me when you keep attacking me.

***Nobody is attacking you, you are following me and making false accusations. I am through thank you.



Rose....that is deception because the thread that I posted above is where YOU TOLD US to come here and look.

You left your little message and AGAIN mentioned my name.

Nobody was following you. You are the one that started this attack tonight.

There was no reason that a scripture that someone posted should get you all upset. But it does. If anyone posts a scripture that you take as a personal slam against you....you go balistic and start posting with an attitude.

Those scriptures were NOT slams against you. Don't take things so personal.

(time correction of that post is 10:47 pm)
Pinky
wow...everyone needs to take a deep breath and settle down...phew! i can definately feel the tension here.
GodLovesYou
Chloe, those were all lies... but no matter, you can have your field day. It's about getting back at me for the other day. I forgive you!

Blessings to the forum. wub.gif

A new day has begun! smile.gif
voice
QUOTE (Chloé @ Aug 21 2008, 01:59 PM) *
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 20 2008, 11:46 PM) *
The apology no longer applies to Vacant... but the forum as a whole. Vacant continues to belittle and needle with contention and cut/paste and do all other things that are unbecoming to a Christian, so I have made a mistake about his character. My remarks still stand to make this place better, restoring Justice and getting back to the board we used to know. Not one that has people who stalk others and follow them around the forum (like now... hi Voice! There is an evil spirit over this board and it has been here for a while, I can feel it every time I sign on)... and it is having its fun... but hey, I guess it never ends, but i'm going to bed. OY! Yes, and he's still here, with Chloe.. they're all here so they can make a remark when I leave. Isn't it cozy? The gang's all here. You accuse ME of not laying it down and you both are sitting right there right below here, I see you and you wait to pounce. It's demonic. Nighty night!


Umm....YOU POINTED BACK TO THIS THREAD!

QUOTE
Read my comment on that thread, nighty night!

Posted by YOU at 10:47 p.m. Wednesday.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...mp;#entry225239

Nobody is stalking you. But as I said....you will get a response from me when you keep attacking me.

You have no right to talk about what is unbecoming as a Christian about anyone on this forum. What you did yesterday was about as low as I have ever known someone to be. What you did was not only non Christian...but pure EVIL!

Your attitude is what is demonic. You have extreme rage and bitterness. I know because I have felt it in the messages you sent me in the Yahoo IM.

Let it go. There is no reason for your rage.


24 “When the unclean spirit goes out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and not finding any, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25 “And when it comes, it finds it swept and put in order. 26 “Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that person becomes worse than the first.”
27 While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed.” 28 But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Luke 11:24-28
GodLovesYou
And yes, a new day has begun! Amen and bless everyone here! God loves you all! smile.gif
GodLovesYou
QUOTE (sharon @ Aug 10 2008, 02:01 AM) *
A lot of times, physical problems or medication can taint our general moods and outlook. Didn't you recently have surgery? Could you be on pain medication or have a temporary hormone imbalance? Remember Rose, perfect people have a hard time accepting Jesus. Those of us who have had trials, hardships, and suffered from mental stress and insecurity, are the ones who accept Him with open arms. Be easier on yourself, and don't try to analyze everything until you get better. Wherever there are people working and communicating with each other, there are always problems now and then. When I feel down, I just sit back and listen to others until I get emotionally stable. We all have bad days, and like I said, sometimes, pain and illness effect the way we communicate and even the way we think. Sit back, be patient, and learn new things while you're at it. In the meantime, I am going to pray about the pain you have complained about for so long.....love you, Sharon


Sharon, you made my day.. yes, have had many physical ailments, but am getting better, and I appreciate your kindness, which is more than this board has shown! In His Love, Rose
galaxee
QUOTE (GodLovesYou @ Aug 23 2008, 06:52 PM) *
QUOTE (sharon @ Aug 10 2008, 02:01 AM) *
A lot of times, physical problems or medication can taint our general moods and outlook. Didn't you recently have surgery? Could you be on pain medication or have a temporary hormone imbalance? Remember Rose, perfect people have a hard time accepting Jesus. Those of us who have had trials, hardships, and suffered from mental stress and insecurity, are the ones who accept Him with open arms. Be easier on yourself, and don't try to analyze everything until you get better. Wherever there are people working and communicating with each other, there are always problems now and then. When I feel down, I just sit back and listen to others until I get emotionally stable. We all have bad days, and like I said, sometimes, pain and illness effect the way we communicate and even the way we think. Sit back, be patient, and learn new things while you're at it. In the meantime, I am going to pray about the pain you have complained about for so long.....love you, Sharon


Sharon, you made my day.. yes, have had many physical ailments, but am getting better, and I appreciate your kindness, which is more than this board has shown! In His Love, Rose


Dear Rose,

Oh, how well I can relate to your pain, I myself have been suffering for a long time now. I know what Sharon means when she says that pain and pain meds can make you less patient in difficult times. But dear sister ever since I have joined this forum I have been blessed many times over by some of your postings, you must be one of God's dearest child for through some of your posts have I been encouraged many times over and I am sure a lot of people can say the same. I don't know you but I feel a sense of kinship with you, not sure why, I just do. In these past few posts where you have been in disagreement with others I have felt your hurt throughout the words that were exchanged. Sharon has given you great advice when she said to sit back and be patient. Jesus said:"Come to unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30 This verse has always been a beacon when I get burdened down by the affairs of this world. Jesus knew that we would need to rest in Him and He invites us to do so. I hope you can find rest in Him dear soul, and remember that when we confess our transgressions to Him as you have done He is always forgiving to us. "I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou foravest the iniquity of my sin. Selah." Psalms 32:5. "Thou art my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah." Psalms 32:7

He has forgiven you and He has invited you to rest in Him. You are loved Rose even by people who don't know you personally, how much more loved are you of Him who knows you inside and out?

Peace be in your heart Rose,
Love in Christ Jesus.
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GodLovesYou
Galaxee,

Thank you sooo much for reassuring me that I'm not the idiot nutcase that everyone has made me out to be. I stand and defend people to what avail? To be flaunted and mocked and torn apart. I can't tell you how many ailments I am going through and the pain of it all is excruciating at times... but I know that the Lord is watching and healing me. I know I have asked for forgiveness time and again only to slip up just once and have it brought up in my face that I made an apology. At LEAST I MADE ONE and not too many people on the board have had the courage to ask for it.

But this is not about me, it's about you and your love, your kindness, your forgiveness as well. I am not in a popularity contest, I just call the shots when I see them and pray a lot! wink.gif Thank you so much for the scriptures and the reminder that the Lord has not forgotten me! And I am so sorry about your pain. I will be praying for you! wub.gif You are like oasis in a dry desert... I feel God's rain pouring on me... thank you so much, you are loved!

In His Love always,
and feel free to write anytime!

XO Rose
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