7--

As I understand it.. the giants of those days were the offspring of women and angels. What other power did they have other than being giant? Did they have the ability to fly? Did they have technology that allowed them to leave earth and create sometning in space? I'm confused? I realize they were part angel but were they not confined to this world?

Gods Love
Hope

Hi -7,

I remember reading about Iapetus a few years ago. My opinion is that it is a structured geodesic dome (molecular structure). It may be a ship of some sort; or a phoney, possibly inhabited, moon. Who built it? The gods of old; Annunaki ? (which are the giants in the OT known as ANAK, ANAKIM, ANAKITES, NEPHILIM, ARBA, REPHAITES) .... fallen angels? Of course, we can only speculate... maybe the same ones who built the pyramids. In one of the pictures in the links below, there is what appears to be, a pyramid.

IAPETUS

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon5.htm
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02..._Images_01.html

Thanks, HAI, for the highly informative posts from Hoagland's site which has so many articles it's always so difficult to find the desired thread, so you saved a lot of effort.

And while others who are not attuned tend to become naysayers on these matters for lack of understanding, it's always so refreshing when you come through with amazing and supportive data that cuts directly through their ridicule.

Yes, I agree with you, that the Sons of God, Annunaki, who also have another name from ancient Hebron Myth are also called the "Annunag" which means "The Deceivers" who had a hand in the Ancient Histories, the former advance civilization, and in the construction of the Iapetus Moon.

But as far as the Great Pyramid on Earth, that particular pyramid appears to have been constructed by Joseph of Genesis, according to the Bible Codes: http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/Hebrewmatrix/pyramidspt1.html

But this does not factor out that other pyramids, i.e. on Mars and Iapetus were constructed by "others".



PYRAMID ON MARS



FIVE-SIDED D&M PYRAMID ON MARS




TOWER STRUCTURE ON IAPETUS, CONSTRUCTED IN A POST-CATASTROPHIC PERIOD

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But as far as the Great Pyramid on Earth, that particular pyramid appears to have been constructed by Joseph of Genesis, according to the Bible Codes: http://ad2004.com/Biblecodes/Hebrewmatrix/pyramidspt1.html


-7

That is most interesting -7. I have often thought the great pyramid stood from the age before but saw in one place where it was attributed to Joseph.

"Herodotus states the builders of the Great Pyramid were shepherds. Hoeh has corrupted the Egyptian story of Khufu as the pyramid builder, summoning an ancient sage to his palace who was 110 years old. Joseph lived to be 110."

It seems I have some reading to do tomorrow....thank you for the information.

Some things I have heard about the Great Pyramid is that Enoch built it. There is considerable water damage to the pyramid and the spinx caused by the flood.

Whirlwind...

Thanks, that information is confirmation.

Egyptologists’ rationale for the construction of the Great Pyramid by the Ancient Egyptians and attributed to Khufu is erroneous (despite the carved hieroglyphic signage located between the paws of the Great Pyramid to the claim of Khufu and his son Khafre), because the Egyptian Civilization merely "inherited" the Great Pyramid from a former Earth Age Civilization that built the complex of Giza. The pyramid was already there in the postcatastrophic period after the destruction of the former global technoculture, and the post-catastrophic survivors merely reassembled in the region and started the Egyptian Civilization. Hence, the Great Pyramid complex of Giza pre-dates the ancient Egyptian culture. It is my postulation that Joseph was from that former advance culture and not from our current Earth Age and its antiquity (post-catastrophic period).






Compare to the modern CH-55 Tarhe heavy-lift cargo helicopter (military version of the Skycrane)



http://www.hallofthegods.org/articles/mystery-abydos.html

http://www.hallofthegods.org/articles/who-...at-pyramid.html




-7

Yes that picture has knocked my socks off for years! I think the fallen angles have been quite busy over the years. The whole pyramid thing is very interesting because they are found all over the world. There is also evidence of men(I think fallen angels) that spread technology through out the whole world that has changed the course of man kind for ever. Metallurgy is a great example. How did men just stumble up on the recipes for for working and creating metal which was mainly used to kill with. I don't believe all of the book of enoch but I do believe the first section about the fall of the watchers is quite old and believable. I have also been interested in the mummified bodies that are turning up all over Eurasia that are very old.The one found in China a few years back is interesting. This person had european features but was dated as being as old as the oldest asians. He had metal items with him before metal was thought to be created. This person was ceremonially buried and was thought to be "shaman". Shaman means in some cultures "those that know". What did they know and were they supposed to be telling us about it? They even found a bag of weed(marijane) on the shaman which I find interesting because enoch tells of watchers teaching men the secrets of charms and roots. Obadiah 1:4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle,and thou set thy nest among the stars,thence I will bring the down,saith the Lord. The veil is being lifted right before our very eyes. Praise the Lord of lords and King of kings.

7--I understand what you are saying and I believe it also. I've had little time to study as you have. You have helped me see things that I did not really "get." Sometimes I say dumb things. I always read everything you write. You are one of my teachers on the web site. So..thanks! Hope


Actually, there were two sets of stature. Our current 6-feet average stature is a degenerated stature to the height of people in Noah's Antediluvium Age, which averaged between 30 to 36 feet tall. To us they were giants, but to themselves this was the normal height, and at that time no man was 6 feet tall, for this degenerated stature was the result of the collapse of the "upper hydrospheric shield" at the time of the Flood... this former terrestrial feature had originally encompassed the Edenic Earth and percipitated "Gigantism" (giantism) from the amplified geomagnetic field and 30% greater oxygen concentrate produced by the compression of the atmosphere by this shield of suspended frozen ice (water), carbon and trace gases. Hence, Noah and his family averaged between 30 to 36 feet tall, being the original normal stature of all humans before the Flood. The offspring from the mating of the Sons of God and these 30 to 36 feet tall humans (the normal stature) subsequently produced the "giants" spoken of in Genesis, which averaged about 90 feet tall... these were the TRUE giants.

It is arrogant for Moderns to think that advance technology and knowledge of harnessing the atom are only a by-product of the zenith of our current Earth Age. There were past Earth Ages (as Plato has stated) with their zeniths of civilization that accomplished the same technological advances; note the following article...

ANCIENT CITY FOUND,
IRRADIATED FROM ATOMIC BLAST
This file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of Bryant Stavely.
Excerpt from the World Island Review, January 1992.
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Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous

A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built.

For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region. Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.

The Mahabharata clearly describes a catastrophic blast that rocked the continent. "A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe...An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race.

"The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white.

"After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river."

A HISTORIAN COMMENTS

Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that Indian sacred writings are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons. An ancient battle is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata. "The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees," says Ganguli.

"Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people's hair falling out."

ARCHEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION PROVIDES INFORMATION

Archeologist Francis Taylor says that etchings in some nearby temples he has managed to translate suggest that they prayed to be spared from the great light that was coming to lay ruin to the city. "It's so mid-boggling to imagine that some civilization had nuclear technology before we did. The radioactive ash adds credibility to the ancient Indian records that describe atomic warfare."

Construction has halted while the five member team conducts the investigation. The foreman of the project is Lee Hundley, who pioneered the investigation after the high level of radiation was discovered.




So yes, in answer to your question... there was a past global technoculture on the Edenic Earth at the time of Noah's Flood, and this sophisticated civilization had technologies capable of extending their reach, travel and residence to other parts of our Solar System, just as we today have this capability (but on a more modest level); none the less, it reiterates the words, "as in the days of Noah, so also shall be when cometh the Son of Man."

Of course, this also means that theologians' erroneous interpretation that Noah was a primitive and archaic man in sackcloth couldn't be further from the truth, instead he lived in a modern society and was a man versed on sophisticated technologies. Even the Rabbinic Tradition of the Ark relays how the entire Ark was internally lit from energy generated by a crystal. Photonic crystal technology is currently in the development phase... SEE: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0710/0710.4979.pdf

In other words, we are "rediscovering" what Noah already knew... Again, "as in the days of Noah, so also shall be when cometh the Son of Man."


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Hi, Hope...

Golly gee whiz, I humbly thank you

I am contritely esteemed that my meager babblings can actually be an inspiration to someone. Who'd thunk?

Also, you may be interested to know that in St. Augustine's book, "THE CITY OF GOD,” he relayed how the bones of the giants were often found along the seashores of the African Mediterranean Coastline in his day. This was a common occurrence. In fact, he writes in the book of his own personal account of witnessing the digging up on the sea shore of a giant human molar of modern resemblance that was the size of his closed fist. He said it could have easily been cut up into 100 human molars of current human stature. When the math is done the estimated stature of the giant human being from whom the molar came from puts his/her stature at 6 TIMES the size of an average 6-foot tall man, or roughly around 36 FEET TALL. Again, this was NOT a giant in "his/her" day, for this was the average height of humans from their perceptions.

Stephen Quayle is a researcher who has extensively documented the phenomenon of ancient human giants…


http://www.stevequayle.com/books/gen6cover.html





http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/charts/charts.html



This photo of a ‘fossilized Irish giant’ was taken at a London rail depot, and appeared in the December 1895 issue of Strand Magazine. The giant was allegedly dug up by a Mr Dyer while prospecting for iron ore in County Antrim (Ireland). It was 12 ft 2 in (3.71 m) tall, weighed 2 tonnes, and had 6 toes on its right foot. After being exhibited in Dublin, it was brought to England and exhibited in Liverpool and Manchester at sixpence a head, ‘attracting scientific men as well as gaping sightseers’.10 After a legal dispute over ownership, nothing more appears to have been heard or seen of the exhibit.

Blessings...

-7

I think what we have here is called a hoax.

See http://www.apatheticagnostic.org/articles/...d28/med553.html

Note that the artifact seems to have conveniently disappeared. Thus, we really have no evidence that it is fossilized and not, say, carved out of stone or molded out of plaster. The above link discusses another supposed giant fossil that was later seen to be chiseled rather than fossilized.



DOes steve quayle actually have any evidence for the claim made by his chart of huge skeletons, or all they all like item B in his list? The femur of this supposed skeleton was supposedly found in turkey during road construction. However, no one has ever been able to produce this bone. Rather, all we have is a hearsay account by one person in turkey who claims such a bone exists. See http://www.kent-hovind.com/articles/them_bones.htm, which I had already linked to in the thread about "Giants in the Land" here. http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...=8752&st=30

This type of 'evidence' wouldn't even stand up in a kangaroo court.

Your type of "hoax" counter-arguments are so typical of the opposition in a vain attempt to discredit, a desperate technique of making a NEGATING MOUNTAIN out of a MOLE HILL. Just because the evidence has vanished does not mean that it did not exist as testimonies and photographs declare.

Personally, I have seen the armor of the 12-foot tall Innsbrook Giant that is on display in the foyer of the Innsbrook Cathedral of the Sacred Heart. You really need to get out and explore the real world.

I especially liked the armor of the court's giant, Bartlmä Bon, who stood at more than 2.5 meters (8 feet) in height. Bon was an area peasant in the service to the Hapsburg family. After his death, Ferdinand II commissioned an artist to carve a life-sized wooden statue of him in order to display the suit of armor.

Besides, your nullification of giants defies God's Holy Scriptures, Genesis 6:4 - "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that..." Your nullification clearly exposes your FALSEHOOD and ANTI-BIBLICAL POSITION.

According to the Guinness Book of World Records, the world's tallest known human being was Robert Wadlow, the 'Alton giant," who was only 8' 11" tall, and who died of a septic buster caused by the way his ankle brace rubbed against his right ankle. Wadlow was so tall, he had to wear ankle braces to support himself!

Getting back to the giants of Iapetus, a certain Dave Beamer in analyzing the Cassini Probe images of the surface of the satellite Iapetus has identified structural ruins miles in dimension, a giant castle with and arch, and of particular interest a dead giant crustacean creature miles in length that is frozen in its death pose for countless millennia, its appendages and limbs hang over the rampart walls of a crater impact ring next to the castle structure.

The first video is a brief overview:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/iapetus-...621?icid=acvsv4

The second video is narrated by Dave Beamer:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=K7YMtEmXgQ8

Now the quality of these videos, being a video recorded off his monitor screen, degenerates pixel quality. However he gives the NASA I.D. numbers to access for the staunch skeptics to freely investigate and where one may directly view the imagery, originally entitled “"Giant Landslide on Iapetus". JPL file name PIA06171.” The first video “delineates” the imagery with superimposed contour lines so that the viewer is aided in recognizing the objects in the imagery. Bear with patients the second video, it gets highly interesting 1/4 remaining and towards the end.


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I commend you and David Beamer for your incredibly vivid imaginations. I see only rocks and shadows, even after saving the images off the NASA sight and zooming in to the pixel level and back. Interesting shapes, but still just rocks and shadows.

I'm an award-winning artist/designer in my field, recepient of the "1986 President's Award for Innovation & Creativity", and I have a 140+ I.Q. shape recognition skill. You see only rocks and shadows because you are obviously not skilled in observation, but perhaps with practice you may be able to improve your great defficiency.

-7.

I congratulate you on your award.

Still, I think it is much more likely that I see rocks and shadow because that is all that is there.

If David Beamer presented his contentions and the 'evidence' for them in any court or other reasonably objective body, he would be greeted with deep skepticism, even incredulity, and that is putting it lightly. This would be true even if we restricted the jury to Presidential Award Winners for Innovation and Creativity (is this the award you refer to: http://www.craftandhobby.org/history/award-winners.php).

I don't know if NASA has done this, but it might be possible for them to do spectral analysis on these areas and determine what kind of elements are present in these areas. If there really are remains of some kind of giant, chemistry might be able to determine this.

At any rate, I would suggest considering what conclusions the type of 'analysis' done by Beamer would lead to if applied elsewhere and in other contexts. My bet is you could the same thing on earth and 'prove' that 4 mile long rhinoceroses, or castles designed for unicorns existed right here on earth.

I have to ask, if you are willing to accept Beamer's conclusions based on this scanty and speculative evidence, why do you find it so hard to accept evolution when we have really millions of times the evidence for that than we do giants on Iapetus?

7---Thank you for the web site information and the pictures. WOW...that is really amazing. I've always wondered why there has not been a bone of evidence regarding these giants. I've never heard of this Steven guy. I'm going to visit his web site as soon as I'm finished here tonight. As I've mentioned... I have little time for study as you obviously have. You and "Crownsevenalphabet" always amaze me with your understanding of scripture and I always read your posts. So...I'll be reading..get ready for some (probabluy) st upid questions. Hope you will give me a little time ever-so-often to explain...

Love
Hope