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Archbishop Raymond Burke, an expert in church law and perhaps the most outspoken of conservative U.S. bishops, will probably be made a cardinal after his appointment Friday. The supreme court is traditionally headed by a cardinal.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/28/vatican.a...rss_mostpopular

SOVEREIGN VATICAN CAN INVESTIGATE ITS OWN CRIME

The Vatican is more than the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church. Though it occupies a mere 108.7 acres and has only about 1,000 citizens, the Vatican is a sovereign city-state with the right to investigate and prosecute any crimes -- including the rare homicide -- that occur within its borders.

The Vatican has its own police force, courts, magistrate and even a small jail, which is so rarely used that it is often filled with books, said the Rev. Thomas Reese, author of ''Inside the Vatican: The Politics and Organization of the Catholic Church'' (Harvard University Press, 1996).

''It's governed ultimately by the Pope. It has its own post office, which used to make a lot of money printing stamps for collectors; it has its own police and fire department. So it has all the wherewithal of a very small country.''

Because of the sovereign status, Italian magistrates who want to investigate in the Vatican must ask permission. The Italian authorities were involved in investigating the Vatican Bank in connection with the scandal surrounding the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano in 1982.


''What you had there was a situation where the Vatican Bank had a whole string of financial transactions with banks in Italy and elsewhere, so it wasn't as neatly self-contained as this murder,'' Father Beal said.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...756C0A96E958260


THE STATE


The Vatican City State came into existence with the Lateran Treaty, drawn up between the Holy See and the Kingdom of Italy on 11 February 1929 and ratified on 7 June 1929.

Its existence as sovereign authority with international public rights, distinct from the Holy See, is universally recognized.

http://www.pellegrinocattolico.com/ctv/state.htm
chinnam naidu
very very interesting post for the vatican city and country. people in india think a lot about vatican and people,if we want to see their country,they give visa for us?
Justice
it is getting time to replace the pope with the RIGHTFUL OWNER.
gregg
The penalty for the child molesting priests could have been DEATH if it were put into the public arena and tried in a public courtroom.

Dealing with the pope and all of his entourage, the cardinals, the sub-popes, etc. you deal with a separate entity, a separate state, a separate nation, everything is separate. And no Justice, the rightful owner is Jehovah, He has little to do with the concepts of man. If the Jews want a pope, they get a pope.
Justice
I see, modern roman centurion, you want to revive the arenas, circus maximus and colloseum?

With Rightful Owner I meant of course Jesus Christ AND God, Yahweh.
gregg
If you know anything about business, the use of semantics is common. For example, at one time the Head Top CEO was called God Almighty. Then His assistant, Moses, talked with Him and found out His name was a little different. Moses said His name was JHVH and Moses wrote it down as Jehovah. How you pronounce the name does matter, I think. And also the language at the time did not have a 'J,' it had either a 'Yah' or 'Jah' so the original is probably YaHoVah, but there also might be 44 more letters to the name, so it might be a little tougher to say for certain. What you stand on is your base. In the Old Testament, there are people such as Enoch, Melchizadek, Moses, Elijah, Elisha that could have told us His name, but only one did, Moses. Moses was the only one to ask Him. "Whom shall I say sent me?"
Well, in the New Testament, it's a little different still. A little more of the business plan comes out; more of the plans are fulfilled. Jehoshua Christos came down from heaven just as Moses came down from Mount Sinai, but Jehoshua did not bring down laws on a stone tablet, there was laws to be written on the tablet of your heart.
You can build colliseums and put 'em all over. In fact, there's football stadiums, baseball diamonds, race tracks of all kinds all over the place. There is absolutely no difference in the Roman times and now except the laws should be written on your heart.
damo7
even thou it may have its own court i can see where gregg is comming from those priests got off easy if this was tried in our courts they would have been dealt with harshly by our laws and these pedophile priests would be serving time in our Jails

this is what puzzles me why have they allowed the vatican to have its own courts its own police force and and to hear a Jail that has been not used but has books instead


in the countrys we live in we have to abide by the laws of the land no one is untouchable if i do something wrong and i brake the law i cant have this heard in a christian court house where i have a christian lawyer and the Judge is a christian and the police officers are christians

i have to bite my tongue own up to what i did and put up with what the court throws at me


Rome should not have allowed for this to happen the goverment in Rome should have put its foot down and said you will abide by our laws and the way we deal with things


this is why we need to be care full its going to get worse as the world comes close to where christ wil return and god will judge us

come judgment day there is going to be no where you can run you cant turn to the vatican even the pope him self should know this and so should his cardinals and his bishops and his priests


it was wrong letting these priests off normal pastors who end up being cought out have not got this prottection the vatica offers its priests and cardinals and bishops

if this was done hear in Australia to where the vatican said we would like to set up our own court system there would be an up roar noraml Australians will not fall for this rubbish by what the vatican has done it could show others like the muslims whom live in our countrys they should be allowed to deal with their people by there customs and by sharia law

the Natural owners off Australia who are the aborigonal people cant even do this with in their own communitys there rights and there old ways where taken of them by this white goverment

they have there own laws and they deal with their own kind by their own laws

for example if an aborigonal male rapes a young girl and its brought before the elders the elders have a right to try this man under there law and what they do to pedophiles and men who rape women and kids is not nice they use a speare and the member from her family spears you and if you have seen the spears they use they are very dangerous


the owners off this land cant govern or lead this country that my parents decided to move to the naturlal owners off Australia have to abide by the same laws that i have to abide by which is silly

i wonder how much twisting had to be done for the vatican to get away with this ?



God bless from damo smile.gif
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QUOTE (damo7 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:54 PM) *
even thou it may have its own court i can see where gregg is comming from those priests got off easy if this was tried in our courts they would have been dealt with harshly by our laws and these pedophile priests would be serving time in our Jails

this is what puzzles me why have they allowed the vatican to have its own courts its own police force and and to hear a Jail that has been not used but has books instead


in the countrys we live in we have to abide by the laws of the land no one is untouchable if i do something wrong and i brake the law i cant have this heard in a christian court house where i have a christian lawyer and the Judge is a christian and the police officers are christians

i have to bite my tongue own up to what i did and put up with what the court throws at me


Rome should not have allowed for this to happen the goverment in Rome should have put its foot down and said you will abide by our laws and the way we deal with things


this is why we need to be care full its going to get worse as the world comes close to where christ wil return and god will judge us

come judgment day there is going to be no where you can run you cant turn to the vatican even the pope him self should know this and so should his cardinals and his bishops and his priests


it was wrong letting these priests off normal pastors who end up being cought out have not got this prottection the vatica offers its priests and cardinals and bishops

if this was done hear in Australia to where the vatican said we would like to set up our own court system there would be an up roar noraml Australians will not fall for this rubbish by what the vatican has done it could show others like the muslims whom live in our countrys they should be allowed to deal with their people by there customs and by sharia law

the Natural owners off Australia who are the aborigonal people cant even do this with in their own communitys there rights and there old ways where taken of them by this white goverment

they have there own laws and they deal with their own kind by their own laws

for example if an aborigonal male rapes a young girl and its brought before the elders the elders have a right to try this man under there law and what they do to pedophiles and men who rape women and kids is not nice they use a speare and the member from her family spears you and if you have seen the spears they use they are very dangerous


the owners off this land cant govern or lead this country that my parents decided to move to the naturlal owners off Australia have to abide by the same laws that i have to abide by which is silly

i wonder how much twisting had to be done for the vatican to get away with this ?



God bless from damo smile.gif




Hi Damo,

Once you realize the ramifications of the power that the Jesuit-controlled Vatican has, you will understand their carte-blanch authority over world politics and religion. They do as they will, without too obviously being implicated.
gregg
There is one body that could be said to be like the Vatican, but there is no laws other than public reaction to their policies. That is the G-8 and the Federal Reserve.
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