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A US House of Representatives Resolution effectively requiring a naval blockade on Iran seems fast tracked for passage, gaining co-sponsors at a remarkable speed, but experts say the measures called for in the resolutions amount to an act of war.
H.CON.RES 362 calls on the president to stop all shipments of refined petroleum products from reaching Iran. It also "demands" that the President impose "stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains and cargo entering or departing Iran."
Analysts say that this would require a US naval blockade in the Strait of Hormuz.
Since its introduction three weeks ago, the resolution has attracted 146 cosponsors. Forty-three members added their names to the bill in the past two days.
In the Senate, a sister resolution S.RES 580 has gained co-sponsors with similar speed. The Senate measure was introduced by Indiana Democrat Evan Bayh on June 2. In little more than a week’s time, it has accrued 19 co-sponsors.
AIPAC's Endorsement

Congressional insiders credit America’s powerful pro-Israel lobby for the rapid endorsement of the bills. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) held its annual policy conference June 2-4, in which it sent thousands of members to Capitol Hill to push for tougher measures against Iran. On its website, AIPAC endorses the resolutions as a way to ''Stop Irans Nuclear Proliferation" and tells readers to lobby Congress to pass the bill.
AIPAC has been ramping up the rhetoric against Iran over the last 3 years delivering 9 issue memos to Congress in 2006, 17 in 2007 and in the first five months of 2008 has delivered no less than 11 issue memos to the Congress and Senate predominantly warning of Irans nuclear weapons involvement and support for terrorism.
The Resolutions put forward in the House and the Senate bear a resounding similarity to AIPAC analysis and Issue Memos in both its analysis and proposals even down to its individual components.
Proponents say the resolutions advocate constructive steps toward reducing the threat posed by Iran. "It is my hope that…this Congress will urge this and future administrations to lead the world in economically isolating Iran in real and substantial ways," said Congressman Mike Pence(R-IN), who is the original cosponsor of the House resolution along with Gary Ackerman (D-NY), Chairman of the sub committee on Middle East and South Asia of the Foreign Affairs Committee.
Foreign policy analysts worry that such unilateral sanctions make it harder for the US to win the cooperation of the international community on a more effective multilateral effort. In his online blog, Senior Fellow in the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies Ethan Chorin points out that some US allies seek the economic ties to Iran that these resolutions ban. "The Swiss have recently signed an MOU with Iran on gas imports; the Omanis are close to a firm deal (also) on gas imports from Iran; a limited-services joint Iranian-European bank just opened a branch on Kish Island," he writes.
These resolutions could severely escalate US-Iran tensions, experts say. Recalling the perception of the naval blockade of Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the international norms classifying a naval blockade an act of war, critics argue endorsement of these bills would signal US intentions of war with Iran.
Last week’s sharp rise in the cost of oil following Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz’s threat to attack Iran indicated the impact that global fear of military action against Iran can have on the world petroleum market. It remains unclear if extensive congressional endorsement of these measures could have a similar effect.
In late May, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert reportedly urged the United States to impose a blockade on Iran. During a meeting with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) in Jersusalem, Olmert said economic sanctions have "exhausted themselves" and called a blockade a "good possibility."
Justice
This is a clear step towards the "defensive stand of the west" as I have seen in the vision.
Rose
Okay, maybe I'm a bit thick headed, but are WE, the U.S., blockading the Iranians from coming out? I am not understanding this. It says that it H.Con.Res 362 has the PRESIDENT checking people, things, etc. entering or exiting IRAN. Which President? The Iranian? I guess I'm just not all here today (lack of sleep last night)....
Rose
Okay, I understand a little more... this is a US House of Representatives resolution but not actually gone to Congress yet, but who knows... we'll wait and see... oy!
gregg
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H.CON.RES 362 calls on the president to stop all shipments of refined petroleum products from reaching Iran. It also "demands" that the President impose "stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains and cargo entering or departing Iran."


Iran has only one oil production facility and cutting off the petro products from them would hurt and inspections would stop any nuclear material reaching them by sea. But, it would also prove whether Ahmadinejad is right about his nuclear program.
However,
I really hope that they are that arrogant and stupid. It appears they are afraid of losing their jobs. You see, that is a world away and to fix our economy, there has to be some kind of action to boost our economy. What other way than stirring up the whole eastern world and getting our minds all geared toward protection of Israel? What brought us into WWII was a suprise attack on our military by the Japanese and we used the atomic bomb against all opinions not to, even by the President leaving office. And the story behind the way that President Truman got a military backing is mind boggling; he was a definite trickster; more tricky than George W. But now, President Bush has the government prepared and the high ranking officials prepared for his taking over the government. But, there's another person, Mr. Ahmadinejad, what is he going to do with this news?
Maybe, he was hoping that the US would become bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan and places like China, Russia, and North Korea would stay on his side. Well, Russia has but China is busy and I would suppose that NK has problems too and whether there is more on his side, I don't know, but we have most of our naval forces in the area of the Strait of Hormuz and Israel just practiced their maneuvers and Olmert has been in bed with president Bush and they are walking hand-in-hand now. Bot Olmert and Bush are technically finished.
Really, I hope that something is done to stop this game of chess that the leaders are playing.
And I think the only way to stop it is the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Justice
It is an economical blockade, in combo with EH freezing the Melli bank accounts (biggest Iranian bank btw).
It is a good stance, a defensive one, waiting on our Glorious God! Trust God!
Rose
Thank you Gregg, that was a clear and concise explanation. I understand it more now. What I know too is that is has not been voted on by Congress so it is not in place yet, and God forbid Nancy Pelosi or Hilary Clinton or Obama even think about voting yes on this, it's too iffy for them. I do believe you are right, that we are finished if this happens... and Olmert too. We can't let this happen and who knows if Mr. A in Iran is bluffing and like you said playing the chess game? This is unbelievable and I just pray that it's not true. We have a lot to lose and losing it fast. Yes, the Lord is the only one who can fix this by coming back.

Amen to our GLORIOUS God Justice.... we are trusting and putting our faith in HIM! Glory and Praise to the Almighty. He is our Saviour and our HELP in time of trouble. AMEN!
Justice
If the US Congress adopts it, it would be a good time to place people suspected of being member of "terrorist sleeper cells" in internment camps, just like in WW2. That would take the -sting- out of Iranian teeth abroad =)
gregg
QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 23 2008, 02:39 PM) *
It is an economical blockade, in combo with EH freezing the Melli bank accounts (biggest Iranian bank btw).
It is a good stance, a defensive one, waiting on our Glorious God! Trust God!


Iran may have been a step ahead. It was reported that Iran pulled out all of their assets from European banks the other day before this happened. I don't know if they did. But the other thing about that is that the EU banned the travel of the Iranian nuclear physicists.
gregg
I know Humble Bob has an humble word for us.
Justice
Regardless of how effective the blockade will be, it will trigger the Mad Man into a fury. Hence the defensive stance.

God, Oh AllMighty, the time is NOW! We call upon Your Wisdom, Your Compassion, Your Eternal Love, to show forth Your Glory forever and ever!
We humble ourselves in prayer for Your Holy Land. That she may be covered with the Shield that deflects like a Mirror the Contents of our hearts!
Humble Bob
Justice
God will suspend time just before. Do you have Faith?
Rose
My gosh, I leave for 1/2 hour and look what I miss. Wow, Humble Bob.. that's one scary picture....

And Gregg, yes, I heard that too that Iran took monies out of the bank ahead of time knowing they were going to be sanctioned. Hm...

And Justice, YES, I HAVE FAITH! wink.gif
gregg
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. And that picture is very humbling!
BibleProphecyBuff
Hi All, rolleyes.gif this is my first post here in the forum, I've been reading up first a bit, to get to know you all better!!
I came across this article a few days ago, it's a pretty stunning picture of how easy it would be for the entire world to slip right off the brink.
Friends of mine tell me that it would take something catastrophic for the world to be ready for the "savior" the Antichrist, but check this out...all it could take, is things continuing on in the direction they're already heading....!





What World War III may look like

By Philip Giraldi, Antiwar.com

Neoconservatives hope Iran will be the next domino to fall to America's military might. It might be useful to imagine just how war with Iran could play out if the Iranians don't roll over and surrender at the very beginning.

It might start with a minor incident, possibly involving an American Marine patrol operating out of the new base at Badrah near the Iranian border. The Marines are surrounded by superior Iranian forces claiming that the Americans have strayed inside Iranian territory. The Marines refuse to surrender their weapons and instead open fire. The Iranians respond. Helicopter gunships are called in to support the Marines, and artillery fire is directed against Iranian military targets close to the border. President Bush calls the incident an act of war and, in an emotional speech to the nation, orders U.S. forces to attack. A hastily called meeting of the UN Security Council results in a 17-1 vote urging the United States to exercise restraint, with only Washington voting "no." In the UN General Assembly, only the U.S., Israel, Micronesia, and Costa Rica support the military action.

In the first few days, overwhelming American air and naval superiority destroy Iran's principal air, naval, and army bases. Iranian Revolutionary Guard facilities are particularly targeted and are obliterated, as are the known Iranian nuclear research and development sites. Population centers are avoided, though smart weapons destroy communications centers and command and control facilities. There are nevertheless large numbers of civilian casualties and widespread radioactive contamination, as many of the nuclear sites targeted are in or near cities. Infrastructure is also hit, particularly bridges, roads, and power generation stations close to known nuclear research centers and military sites. The U.S. media rallies around the flag, praising the "surgical" attacks designed to cripple Tehran's nuclear weapons program. Congress supports the bombing, with leaders from both parties praising the president and commenting that Iran had it coming.

The Pentagon and White House call the attacks a complete success, but Iran strikes back. With five years to prepare, Iran has successfully hidden and hardened many of its military and nuclear facilities, a large percentage of which are undamaged. The aircraft carrier USS Eisenhower operating in the Persian Gulf is hit by a Chinese Silkworm cruise missile and grounds itself in shallow water to avoid sinking. Three other support vessels are also hit and severely damaged when they are attacked by small craft manned by suicide bombers. Pro-Iranian riots break out in Beirut. In the south of Lebanon, Hezbollah fires salvos of rockets into Israel. Israel responds by bombing Lebanon and Syria, which it blames for the attacks. Iranian Shahab-3 missiles also strike Israel, killing a number of civilians. The Israeli Defense Forces are mobilized, and troops are sent to the northern border. Syria and Lebanon also mobilize their forces. Rioters in Baghdad attack U.S. troops and the American embassy, and are driven back only after the soldiers open fire and call in helicopter gunships. Snipers attack American soldiers all over Iraq.

Shi'ites sympathetic to Iran sabotage Saudi Arabia's eastern oil fields. The Saudi fields suffer some damage, and hundreds of alleged saboteurs are shot dead by Saudi security forces. An oil tanker out of Kuwait is hit by a Silkworm missile close to the Straits of Hormuz and runs aground. Another hits a mine planted by Iran. Insurers in London refuse to cover any tankers transiting the Persian Gulf. Oil shipments from the region, one quarter of the world supply, stop completely, and oil goes up to $200 a barrel. Wall Street suffers its biggest loss in 20 years, with the Dow Jones index plummeting.

President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan is assassinated. Fearing that he will be next, Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf flees to Dubai. Order breaks down in both countries. The Pakistani army declares a state of emergency. The Pakistani tribal areas declare themselves independent. Fighting increases in Iraq, with U.S. soldiers being targeted by Shi'ite militias. U.S. troops evacuate Baghdad, fighting their way out with heavy casualties. There are reports of Iranian soldiers and militiamen massing at the border. Rioters in Basra succeed in cutting the main roads leading to Kuwait that supply U.S. forces.

The U.S. scrambles to contain the damage, pressuring the Pakistani army to put down the riots and secure the country's nuclear arsenal, while at the same time trying to restore order in Kabul through the multinational force. Several NATO allies balk at using their soldiers in what they see as a burgeoning civil war, and the U.S. suffers heavy losses in street fighting before withdrawing to its bases. Taliban-backed militias take over much of Kabul and Kandahar. Waves of Iranian soldiers and militiamen cross the border into Iraq, where they are welcomed by the Iraqi militias. U.S. troops are under siege countrywide and are forced to withdraw into their bases where they can be supplied by air. The Iraqi government resigns and is replaced by a group of Shi'ite clerics.

The government in Lebanon falls and is replaced by a coalition headed by Hezbollah. A salvo of Iranian Silkworm missiles sets the Saudi Arabian eastern oil fields ablaze. Saudi Arabia sends an urgent message to Tehran declaring that it is "neutral" in the fighting and will not assist the U.S. in any way. Kuwait sends the same message, as does Egypt. Kuwait refuses to allow the U.S. to use its men and supplies at Camp Doha against Iran. In Bahrain, rampaging Shi'ite crowds depose Sheik Khalifa al-Khalifa and set up an Islamic Republic which immediately demands that the U.S. Fifth Fleet dismantle its headquarters and go home. The Dow Jones index loses another 1,000 points.

The U.S. attempts to get China and Russia to mediate with Iran to end the fighting, but they refuse to do Washington any favors, noting that they had opposed the attack in the first place. Suicide bombers attack London, Washington, New York, and Los Angeles. The attacks are poorly planned and inflict only a few casualties, but panic sets in and the public demands that the respective governments do something. The U.S. tells the Iranian government that unless resistance ceases, nuclear weapons will be used on select targets.

India and Pakistan are alarmed by the U.S. threat and put their own nuclear forces on high alert, as does Israel. Russia and China also increase their readiness levels to respond to the crisis.

Iran refuses to concede defeat, and the Iranian people rally around the government. The U.S. public clamors for action. Oil prices continue to surge, and even the long-term viability of petroleum supplies is in question as the Straits of Hormuz continue to be closed. Another U.S. ship is sunk by suicide attackers in the Persian Gulf. U.S. troops are under fire nearly everywhere in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Anti-American rioting takes place in Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, and Dhaka. The U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, is overrun and sacked. Forty Americans are killed, along with hundreds of Pakistanis. The Pakistani army announces that it can no longer protect Americans.

There are frequent terrorism scares in a number of American cities, which are under red alert security lockdown, though there are no new attacks. As a preventive measure, Muslim leaders and some antiwar activists are arrested and detained at military prisons. Israeli air attacks on targets in both Lebanon and Syria inflict major damage on civilians. Rioting rocks the West Bank and Gaza. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas flees to Cairo. India threatens to attack Pakistan if there is any question about the security of Islamabad's nuclear arsenal.

The United States uses a neutron-type bomb against the main Iranian nuclear research center at Natanz, which it had already bombed conventionally and destroyed. It vows to bomb again if Iran continues to resist. Iran is defiant and fires another wave of Silkworms at U.S. ships, sinking one. Suicide bombers hit U.S. targets in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Russia and China place their nuclear forces on high alert. Pakistani militants take over parliament, aided by radical elements in the army and the intelligence service. India launches a preemptive strike against the main Pakistani nuclear centers at Wah and Multan, where the country's arsenal is believed to be concentrated. Pakistan has hidden some of its nukes elsewhere, however, and is able to strike back by bombing New Delhi. World War III has begun.
bonomike
QUOTE (Humble Bob @ Jun 23 2008, 04:07 PM) *


If this is what San Diego looks like on July 8, 2008, as the scriptures pointed out by the authors of http://www.californiajudgment2008.citymax.com and http://www.sandiegowarning2008.com seem to indicate, then the United States will likely be on Iran like bees on honey, provided that Iran can be shown to be involved with it in any way. (Yes, I said scriptures. Those sites are not all about gematria, by the way.)

My, how things may quickly change in the world...knee-jerk reactions all over...the personal information chip to help "protect" people in a world of chaos. "You have to take it, it's for your own good."

May the Lord have mercy. May he grant repentance.

In Christ,

Mike

P.S. Another misfortune would be for Iran to feign nuclear attack by the U.S.--you, know set one off on themselves and blame us.

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