They will do it anyway Seven....whether we make a move or not.

It is there intention to take over and dominate other nations and people. But especially to destroy Israel and the U.S.

Better to defend and threaten them with retaliation than to lay down peacefully. Perhaps then they might think twice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZiw3qVdFzw

Ohh yes....

These are our "barbaric" soldiers who give candy and balloons to little children.....LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRb7XxuxH_o...feature=related

And YOU think we are not CAPABLE?

Remember...the United States is the ONLY super power in the world currently.

The United States did not gain that status for nothing.

H2BF...

The public only sees the SURFACE reality, a HOLLOW FAÇADE.

The mass media, owned by the Global Elite, coordinates and orchestrates the desired propaganda of this FAÇADE for brainwashing and conditioning purposes.

The former U.S. Republic is TOTALLY extinct. It no longer exists. It's dead as a doornail.

A "PSEUDO REPUBLIC" is in operation, being a precursor to a TOTALITARIAN FASCIST STATE.

What patriotic Americans "think" are our enemies are actually our "bedfellows".

This is what the typical American is oblivious to, and instead, is made to believe they are our enemies.

It’s a strategy that is termed in strategic intelligence and militaristic warfare as “THE FALSE FLAG”, where a “FAKE ENEMY” is created.

This fake enemy is called “Al Qaeda”, a creation and brainchild of a joint CIA and MI6 (Military Intelligence of Great Britain) MASTER PLAN.

American Citizens have been "brainwashed" to believe the "Big Lie"... that TERRORISM is a "global threat".

This "threat" is a RUSE.

This ruse serves to incite planned and controlled CHAOS by our own Government(s).

The secret agenda is that the state of CHAOS will cause the masses to WILLFULLY release their individual autonomy and replace it with SERVITUDE under the guise of "protection", which will be their DEMAND.

Hence, the BIOCHIP IMPLANTS (VERACHIP) and registration of ALL INDIVIDUAL DNA will subsequently ensue.

All has been planned in the boardroom of the Global Elite Bankers.

Hence, the U.S. Government (all the way to the Oval Office) has "SOLD OUT" and betrayed its very own.

Thus, the coming U.S.-Iran Conflict is a mutually calculated orchestration serving to fulfill these ultimate plans of the One World Order.


-7

Okay then, it is time to disclose a bit further.
But first a word about the use of language... Your use of the word "naively" is not such a nice label on our friend happy2bfree, is it?
I wish both of you would have an open mind to the things of God which are not physical or only natural, but transcend everything you know in the earthly realm.

God is capable of everything. He MADE everything and knows its inner workings. God can suspend time like the push of the PAUSE buttun on a video recorder. In that suspension God's Angels are well capable in changing the physical around, like for example:
- defusing Irans bombs
- defusing Russias bombs
- defusing China's bombs
- defusing America's bombs.
Which is exactly what He is going to do.
In that suspended time period, those who were called up before God's Throne, will be changed as well by God in the sense that our very nature will be changed into ... it is hard to describe, but it looks like what I call God's Essence: shining golden light. Right after, God sends us back to earth at the same time that the worlds leaders are wondering why all their weapons are malfunctioning (that is caused by the Angels). Back on earth, we go forth in groups, and we move highspeed by thinking of our destination. Like going from the Mediterranian to Washington DC in 2 minutes. Our appearance at the destination will cause people to stand frozen in astonishment, not trusting their eyes. Many destinations will be covered, many governments will step down, and God will appoint Angels as temporary governors, guiding the people into God's Plan.

All this starts only in the LAST SECOND before the world is at its own destruction, if not for God's Intervention.
That should be enough for now.

(I will repost this in the vision thread)

I wish I could laugh at this post but research agrees with this-sad but true...I guess that is why Jesus said "My Kingdom is NOT of this world."

Google Edward Benays if you do not believe the mainstream media manipulates YOU. Good post 7!

As a former republican voter who also beat the war drums for the "just war" theory- I have repented of these attitudes.

When I saw the virtual media blackout on Ron Paul- we became aware that the media is not free, fair or balanced. NPR almost never mentioned him either. That was a big wakeup even though now I understand the Lord will not give us "godly" leadership because America is not worshipping the God of the Bible....Look at the Masonic architecture esp. in DC...America's leadership is illuminati- they only talk about "Jesus" to manipulate Christian voters.

How in the world can you FORCE democracy- what a contradiction!! Wake up people- the "Christians" churchgoers- overwhelmingly supported Hitler too. Now we have to much access to info- for a short time- not to willfully keep our eyes shut.

If pagans and atheists can see the wickedness of Christians clamoring for war (I.e. those "who would Jesus bomb") bumper stickers- the church has truly left Christ. It is eating the same lies as the world around it....instead of the Word. That is why the Bible calls this harlotry and idolatry- it's an unclean mixture. Patriotism PLUS Christ....Jesus brought together Sadducess and Zealots- He did not allow them to participate in a carnal rebellion against Rome or carnal warfare but rebuked that spirit.

He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.

I used to do work that involved me going to the UN and being involved in advocacy there. Didn't know what it was spiritually- I was very young- (I even prayed in their interfaith chapel once alone...the Lord certainly protected me). Well bottom line is- if you think the USA is moral and desire to do good around the world- you are wrong. There is much good we could do but refuse to for money or power. Children who could be fed...but trade laws prevent it. Medicines that could be given to poor women and children- refused due to corporate interests....etc etc. This is a country that allows TORTURE- and allows innocents in G Bay to be held without trial- how can you defend Jesus and the interests that perpetrate such sin at the same time?

No-it's not the liberal media...it's the NWO media that is anti-Christ and hates people. They manipulate public opinion...big time. We no longer have a free press here in the USA- even Walter Cronkite verifies that in his book. They have a lust for power and propensity towards genocide. They desire to reduce the world's population. I saw this personally while advocating for debt forgiveness in poor countries based on the biblical year of Jubilee. I was usually the only "born again" believer there but got a big wake up call about what motivates the US and it is not fear of the Lord, love of man, or love of God.

If American was pro Christian why aren't we helping the Sudanese or Iraqi Christians? America by and large has a false christ- it is not the Jesus of the Bible. It is Babylon that rules the world in Ezekiel...come out from among her (spiritually) and be ye separate...that we are not judged along with her. Fear the Lord - He is not pleased with this nation that has departed from Him and profaned His name to the world.

Question- How much will secular America hate professing Christians if they are the ones calling for war on Iran and the blowback is very severe? They will point fingers then- at whom?

I do not advocate rebellion however- unless told to deny Christ. We are to submit to our governments the Word says in Romans 14. ( Written at the time of Herod) Some of Caesar's household eventually followed Christ.

God's sovreignity in World Order:
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=sg3

Seven...

The world did not imagine Stalin. The world did not imagine Hitler or now Ahmadinejad.

We are not imagining that he says we will cease to exist all the while wanting Nuclear power.

Israel is not imagining this.

He is a real threat. I'm not saying that what you mention cannot happen... it's just that in this situation, I don't think it is so.

Blessedinva...

What an eye-opening post! People listen to Blessedinva who has been in the trenches.

Yes, just as the Jews were the scapegoats under Germany's Nazism, American Evangelical Christians will be the scapegoats under the NWO. I have already seen on the Internet the mushrooming vitriolic hatred against Fundamentalist Christian Americans not just from secular Americans, but from European Atheists, and there is a definite "plotting" occurring to create a snare for a new extermination plan to rid the world of all Biblical Christians.

George Washington's vision of the end of America relayed this hatred by our global enemies and its manifestation into a thermal nuclear ambush of all of America's great cities and the subsequent invasion and land grab by Middle-Eastern/Asian and Euro-African hordes, and the Yellow People (China) leaving a mere 15 million American survivors huddled in the mountain caves with fear... all because America launched a nuclear attack on Iran and had to suffer the retaliation blow from Russia, China and North Korea.

-7

There is believers everywhere. Not just USA or Israel. There is plenty of them in Islamic nations. So won't destroying belivers in Iran angers Lord too?.

Ahmandinejad is not the first and the last person who threatened Israel, Countless people threatened Israel but they all FAILED. It was not USA or any other country that protected Israel but Lord did. Also God chosen people will never be destroyed. I don't know why you and others are so concerned with America and Israel getting destroyed when Lord promised has salvation and eternal lives. Which is more important?. Did Saints carry the weapons to fight with their enemies?. Our enemies are darkness not
the humans. We should not hate others for whatever damage they do to us but love them. Did you forgot about Jesus two important commandments?.

Well I honestly find it hugely distressing to see people being sucked into the hype of the 'Iranian threat' pretty much every bit as easily as they were with the Iraq fiasco.

I don't mean to disrespect anyone in particular, but every logically thinking fibre in one's brain should be telling them how stupid military action against Iran would be. For one thing, Iran is not even producing Nuclear Weapons, I don't know if you heard but it is quite well known nowadays that Iran's Nuclear Weapons drive was halted at least four years ago, and despite whatever people might be saying about the 'liberal media distorting the facts,' I honestly would rather give more credance to a 'liberal media' than the likes of FOX News and other Neo-con propaganda outlets that fooled so many people into thinking that military action against Iraq because of 'WMDs' was anything other than the act of a fool. Iran as of now is not producing Nuclear Weapons, and there is no evidence that they are producing then. But I'm telling you, if you do want an Iran armed with Nuclear Weapons, then please, by all means attack them because doing so will give them the best reason they need for acquiring WMDs.
The fact that Iran is one of the largest oil-producing countries in the world or the fact that Mahmud Ahmadinajad has called for the annihalation of Israel and America, does not mean that the Nuclear Program is not intended for civilian purposes. The fact that they happen to have a hot-head in the presidency (Is America really any different?) or that they have a Supreme Religious leader who calls his followers to chant 'death to America' does not mean that the Iranians, or any other Middle Eastern people are standing poised for the extermination of the state of Israel. If you actually looked at what is going on in that country, you would know full well that Ahmadinajad's popularity is faultering, most Iranians are indifferent towards their leaders policies and there are many who are fighting tirelessly for reform. If anyone attacks Iran it will unravel in a day what the reformists having been working for years to achieve; although the Iranians are without doubt among the most hospitable people on earth, they are fiercely independant and even those opposed to the regime will line up behind Ayatollah Khameini if anyone violates even an inch of their land. The exact same thing happened when Saddam Hussein (an American puppet I might add) attacked Iran in 1980; the day before the country was on the verge of civil war, the day after it was ready to fight to the last blood cell rather than see their land overun by a dictator backed by the United States (and many others). It matters not how much you would call an Israeli or American attack a 'surgical strike' it's effects would be absolutley no different; 12 million furious Iranians mobalized within 48 hours poised to sweep into Iraq, across the Persian Gulf or into Afghanistan, not to mention an oil price so high that the world may as well get used to walking everywhere for the rest of their lives. A 'surgical strike' would do absolutley nothing to prevent the entire Middle East from imploding into perpetual war that would very likely drag in Russia, China, India, Pakistan and even Europe; Iran is, on its own, capable of alot more than most people give it credit for and not even 'the world's only Superpower' would be safe from the searing fury of an enraged Islamic Republic, let alone the back-lash from its allies.
I honestly cannot see how anyone would see an attack on Iran as necessary, the fact that their president spits venom does not mean that the majority of Iranians support him; look at America's President who (if not less eloquently) does exactly the same thing, but does he have all Americans at his back? I hardly think so.
I have no opposition to Israel defending itself, but what I do have opposition to is them openly threatening to attack a country that presently poses no threat.
Regardless of whether people think that GOD has blessed the 'Christian, Democratic West' and Israel, that alone should not be what makes people think that attacking another country is necessary. The first thing that people should be aware of is that this would cause simply un-imaginable suffering across the world, make the West look like even more of a threat to Muslims (who as a whole have done absolutley NOTHING to the West), and not to mention eat away at the credibility of Christians, who, most unfortunatley have somehow come to be equated with the West.
Also the fact that Bible says 'there is a time for war' or that GOD instructed the Israelites to war against other nations (which HE so rightfully did), should not mean that its suddenly acceptable to go rampaging around the Middle East killing and maiming while essentially saying 'GOD says it's ok.' Of course it is justified to go to war if GOD Wills it, but then that begs the question of who GOD'S newest Prophet is? Who is it that HE is instructing to attack Iran or anyone? George Bush? Dick Cheney? Ehud Olmert? Shaul Mofaz? Who is it that GOD has directly given the green-light to to drop the bombs?
Until GOD comes blazing out of Heaven instructing the slaughter of all unbelievers directly, I see no justification for why Christians should think the killing of anyone is acceptable. I also believe that GOD protects Israel as HE as always done, but I think HE can take care of Israel on HIS own; if Iran is destined to attack Israel without any provocation then fine, Israel, by all means defend yourselves. But Israel attacking before a threat is even iminent only increases the precariousness of its situation.
We've spent the last 8 years watching this lunacy of pre-emptive military action, and quite honestly it has failed miserably.

May we attack the powers of this world through prayer, then drop thousands (if not millions) of leaflets all over Iran testifying of the gospel of Jesus Christ in Arabic, or whatever local languages are present. May the country be blanketed overnight like a newly-fallen snow.

With that, God would be well-pleased.

Anything else...I'm not so sure.

May the Lord have mercy.

In Christ,

Mike

We know for a fact that Saddam had stop-and-go developments of nuclear weaponry from the head scientist who was in charge of it who has escaped to the US! http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/...irq.centrifuge/
Watch the scientist testify about it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCq514zp3V0
The FBI operative who personally spend months with Saddam and gained a sort of friendship with him before his execution has revealed much about Saddam. He said that Saddam defied the weapons inspectores because he felt that he needed to maintain his dangerous reputation with toward Iran and his internal enemies. Saddam could not afford to assure Iran that he was unarmed. He also believed that Bush was bluffing and showing off when Bush threatened a war. Saddam was in disbelief until the US had already taken Bhagdad. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325785,00.html Only then did Saddam order the plan B of an insurgency, before going into hiding. Saddam was a very mentally ill and deluded tyrant. You have to understand his logic to understand what happenned.

And for the record, in my understanding, for all of you who think that you know better than the masses of the "deluded," there is no threat of a totalitarian new world order anytime soon! There is no "Bush conspiracy!" There is no "Zionist agena" behind 911! Neither Israel nor Bush were involved with 911! God will judge you for spreading evil and unsubstantiated lies and rumors about others- especially about national leaders and the state of Israel. Don't you know that it is a terrible sin to gossip, tell rumors, or lie? Read the Bible again. Quite reading all of those venom tainted accusations on all your stupid internet sites and conspiracy THEORY books and such. It is all a bunch of hooey. Funny, radical Islam, Naziism and Communism are all fueled bu the hate invoked by some of the excact same conspiracy theories some of you believe in. I guess Satan knows what Hitler said has proven true. "If you tell the people a lie loud enough and long enough, eventually the people will belileve it." The old saying is proven true for the devil's lies, "If it aint broke, don't fix it."

Amen!

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=18115

So correct you are.

Then uh... why not if everything else fails, for a change....

(I know I will get bashed for saying this but uh...)

why not... turn... to God Yahweh? HE LISTENS you know?

Oh i wish things can happen like that but sadly no because we humans are sinful, proud, selfish, greedy and lust for power.

Only few people listen to Lord, Only few goes to Him, Only few gives up everything they have, Only few Understand Lord Salvation, Gospel, Love.

People loves to debate and debate and they find less or no time for Lord.

"There is a time for everything..." This is the time and place for a civilized debate. So please don't be like a Pharisee and judge me for saying something that you might not like. After all, that is why you said that.

(I know I will get bashed for saying this but uh...)

why not... turn... to God Yahweh? HE LISTENS you know?

War often happens after God's people have been, not turning to God, but continuing to constantly remain in prayer that war may be avoided in the first place.

It is not an either "turn to God" or "go and fight in the fleshly realms" choice for all of us. Some one has to go and fight. "Our (the church's one real struggle) struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against..." the devil basically. But wars are not the church's struggle, no. But all church members are citizens of nations that sometimes have to fight in wars. We are told by God to "submit ourselves to the governing authorities" according to scripture. For "he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer." Rom 13:4. The government's sword is intended by God as an agent of wrath against evil. That requires war sometimes. That means that God approves of the neccessity of war for justice' sake.

If you choose to be an ungodly, cowardly pacifist, than God help you if there were an invasion and you stayed home instead of going out to help fight. Why should others suffer and die so you can sit there and act spiritual and judge them as sinners? Think about it. Watch a war movie. Read about it. Sheesh! Don't be like the pacifist and cowardly cameraman in the movie "Saving Private Ryan."

So be it, WhiteKnight. Or is my warrior mode less than your screen name? Again, so be it, i concede, but do not ask me to forsake my Loving God Yahweh, who has kept me until this day, and to whom I concede since the day He told me He Loved me...

And eliyahu, if you feel that I am warring in the flesh, than I ask your forgiveness as I have already forgiven you, even if I do not know what is the wrong in pointing upwards and ask my Lord to right the wrong in my world, when he has put me in this earthly body which I detest?

I keep hearing prophecies on the net that US and Israel will attack Iran before the end of the year.

Now obama is coming out saying he wants to deal with Iran and "remove" the threat.

The prophecies mention another attack on USA as excuse for attack on Iran.

There is only ONE definite possiblity = it wont end well for America.

I do not accuse you of warring against me in the flesh at all. You would have to be physically present to do that anyhow.

I tell you that sometimes you must war in the flesh against evil. That is why there are police and millitary. You do not choose between prayer and fighting. Sometimes you do both.

God made your body and said it was very good when he was finished. Don't detest what God made.
"Psalm 139:14
I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.[1] Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.

What are you talking about?.

Read Habakkuk.

It speaks of a prophecy for the end times.

It speaks of a mighty nation (an EAGLE) that moves over the entire earth from the WEST and plunders the middle east , scoffs at the princes and kings and basically does what it wants. Look at whats happening in Iraqi. If America continues and goes for Iran/Syria and other mid east nations than it fits perfectly with Habakkuks prophecy.

"For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs.
7: They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves.
8: Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat.
9: They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.
10: And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.
11: Then shall his mind change, and he shall pass over, and offend, imputing this his power unto his god. "

America attacks and has no mercy on her victims..but then this happens:

Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
8: Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men's blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.

The whole thing is a MASSIVE GIGANTIC SETUP for the U.S.A.!

For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation - God is the one who does it, He raises them up and uses them then they get destroyed.

What raised my eyebrows first was the last three sentences of your second last paragraph. Now I'm assuming that by 'the government's sword' you are referring to the American Government? If so then I wholeheartedly disagree, especially with the idea of America being a 'tool of GOD' used to fight evil and injustice, because for the most part America has contributed as much suffering to the world as it has tried to alleviate.
Please show me the justice in the many inexplicable acts perpetrated over the last half century. Where is the justice in 140,000 civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki being instantly incinerated or slowly dissolving from the fallout of a Nuclear Attack so that America can 'deter' the Soviet Union from pursuing armed conflict with the US? Where is the justice in America crushing a democratically elected Government in Iran and replacing it with a repressive Shah who suffocates the people of their civil liberties and rules with an iron (and rather un-democratic) grip? Where is the justice in installing a tyrannical puppet in Iraq who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of his own citizens and caused a horrific war with Iran, killing millions of people and tens of thousands with chemical weapons supplied by the US? Where is the justice in KEEPING him in power after the Second Gulf War? Where is the justice in supporting a dictator in Pakistan who was NOT elected and can be trusted to uphold democracy about as much as Robert Mugabe? Where is the justice in allowing genocide to be perpetrated in Sudan and Somalia, starvation to take hold in Zimbabwe and a maniacle dictator in North Korea to hold onto power, just because those particular countries dont have huge reserves of oil? Where is the justice in America condemning terrorism and those who support it while at the same time funding, arming and protecting an Iranian terrorist group on Iraqi soil? Where is the justice in Napalming and bombing across Vietnam and Laos, killing millions of civilians and leaving millions more homeless?
To be honest I would be very worried if America was officially the world's police force, because they are far from having a clean track-record.
The second thing that raised my eye-brows was your comment about being an 'ungodly, cowardly pacifist' and your willingness to (something along the lines of) 'wet a sword with the blood of enemies.' Now I honestly don't see how wanting peace and avoiding pointless slaughter is ungodly or cowardly. Being someone who wants peace does not make one 'ungodly,' if anything it is the warmongerers who should be questioning the strength of their faith. I'm sure you are aware of that quite famous saying 'Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.' I can remember the Bible saying 'Love your neighbour' and not to seek conflict FAR more times than I can remember it justifying killing people.
And just to touch on what appeared to be your response to my post about Saddam's weapons-program; the way I heard it he was bluffing about ever possessing such weapons at all for fear that Iran would attack him in the future. I do also remember hearing a certain gentlemen saying that prior to the Invasion of Iraq, SH's 'WMDs' were carted off to Syria. Now that prompts the question of (1), why would a country who is allied with Iran, a staunch enemy of Iraq help the enemy of their ally? And (2) why hasn't America pursued those Weapons into Syria? I would have thought if they were so confident about weapons of mass-destruction being held by a so-called 'state-sponsor of terrorism' they would have been a little more vigorous in hunting them down.

Once again, there is absolutley no reason for anyone to be attacking Iran, and Bonomike, I couldn't agree more with your comment!

This scripture answers these questions. Let the dead bury the dead.


Isaiah 34
1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it.
2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter.
3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.

I agree with all your points. I seriously doubt US is doing God work. They are the ones who is helping terrorist. US gives so much of money to Pakistan and it goes to the terrorist from there they attack India.
US and its allies are nothing but bunch of bullies.

Most importanly how US made Iran and India to suffer due to your sanctions.

I had to count to 10 before I posted but I think I am calm now. First India suffer..hmmm yes may be before but last time I checked India was doing quite well from all of our AMERICAN companies creating jobs there ie Dell, Sprint, Hp, many technology companies are growing India's economy is growing rapidly. In fact because India (and China) is growing so quickly and purchasing larger amounts of oil the cost of gas world wide is going up.

Where is the justice. It never ceases to amaze me the way some people are. America gets blamed for everything. Yes America has become a shadow of its former self in morals and many others things and I am not proud of that. America is always seen as the bad guy, but when the first major disaster occurs in the world everyone looks to America first to help and expect the most help from America.

Vietnam and all of the other conflicts America has been in was for the people even though it did not turn out the way it was intended. If America did nothing we would be blamed for not caring it seems that America can not win for trying these days.

Is it time for America to close its borders then and if your not born here you are not welcome to our aid, money, or our freedom? I wonder how that would go over with the world? We all know the answer to that question and I am thankful that we are not like that. With out these wars and conflicts in the world America wouldn't be the land of the free sites like this wouldn't be here our freedom to preach and speak the gospel would not exist, I am sure the brave ones are going to chime in and say we should be willing to die for Christ ;and we should be! But until you face that situation and forced to see your wife or children tortured before your eyes it is all talk.

Concerning a strike on Iran I am not sure it seems to be the cold war all over again. No one wants to fire the first missile. Whether anyone wants to believe it or not we all need each other and a collapse in one nation would damage the others. China needs America (Americas always buying what we cant afford). But the Iranian president is unstable and blind here is a quote from him at the UN food summit and I will let you be the judge: "THE SATANIC POWER of the US faces destruction and Israel will "certainly" cease to exist.....the Iranian people are the most peace-loving nation in the world"

Everyone also seems to forget the missiles are always pointed at America.

The fact that I'm aware of America's past crimes does not make me 'anti-American.' I have nothing against American citizens, and I think you'll find neither does the larger Iranian population; it is the actions of the Government that appalls me.

Please, if you do believe that there was a justification for any of these things I would be interested in hearing it, but I'm not posting hate-speech for bringing up things that did and are indisputably happening.
No I do not always point the finger at America when anything goes wrong; I think the fact that some people expect others to believe that ANY nation is righteous is absolute ludicracy. America has plenty of blood on its hands, I make no hesitation in saying that, but so that I don't get labelled an 'America hater' I don't defend the actions of other countries simply because they are not America. Whichever way you look at it, Israel has blood on its hands, and many in the Palestinian leadership (i.e. Hamas) are no better. China, India, Russia, Britain, France, Iraq, South Africa, Australia, and I don't hesitate either in saying Iran etc., all have crimes to acknowledge.

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But the Iranian president is unstable and blind here is a quote from him at the UN food summit and I will let you be the judge: "THE SATANIC POWER of the US faces destruction and Israel will "certainly" cease to exist.....the Iranian people are the most peace-loving nation in the world"
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May I ask what you would like me to be judging? I never said that I agreed with everything he said and I have no doubt that most Iranians think even less of his comments than I do. The fact that he said such things is no reflection on the Iranian people, just in the same way that George Bush, Dick Cheney and John McCain's warmongering is no reflection on the American people.

And if I may, to just even the score with your last line, America has just as many missiles pointed at every nation on earth (though I would assume that excludes Israel). I remember hearing an anti-nuclear campaigner highlight that America has the ability to annihalate the earth 40 times over. With that kind of power I think it would be unreasonable to assume that a country like that wouldn't abuse it's position.

"Please, if you do believe that there was a justification for any of these things I would be interested in hearing it" No I would like to hear from you what do you think America should of done after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Will you please just imagine what Hitler would of done if he had WMD in his arsenal the world would be a very different place today. Yes America has enough weapons to destroy the earth 40 times over, but do you see America stating that we are going to wipe Iran off of the face of the planet. Why because the US has rules in place to protect the world from "itself" (the US)