Nuclear attack on D.C. a hypothetical disaster
By Gary Emerling
April 16, 2008
A nuclear device detonated near the White House would kill roughly 100,000 people and flatten downtown federal buildings, while the radioactive plume from the explosion would likely spread toward the Capitol and into Southeast D.C., contaminating thousands more.
The blast from the 10-kiloton bomb — similar to the bomb dropped over Hiroshima during World War II — would kill up to one in 10 tourists visiting the Washington Monument and send shards of glass flying the length of the National Mall, in a scenario that has become increasingly likely to occur in a major U.S. city in recent years, panel members told a Senate committee yesterday.
"It's inevitable," said Cham E. Dallas, director of the Institute for Health Management and Mass Destruction Defense at the University of Georgia, who has charted the potential explosion's effect in the District and testified before a hearing of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. "I think it's wistful to think that it won't happen by 20 years."
The Senate committee has convened a series of hearings to examine the threat and effects of a terrorist nuclear attack on a U.S. city, as well as the needed response.
Yesterday's panel stressed the importance of state and local cooperation with federal authorities in the wake of an attack, assistance from the private business sector to aid recovery and the dire need to boost the capabilities of area hospitals.
They recommended expanding emergency personnel by training physicians like pharmacists and dentists to aid in all-hazards care, monitoring the exposure of first responders to radiation and clearly disseminating information to the public.
"The scenarios we discuss today are very hard for us to contemplate, and so emotionally traumatic and unsettling that it is tempting to push them aside," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent and committee chairman. "However, now is the time to have this difficult conversation, to ask the tough questions, and then to get answers as best we can and take preparatory and preventive action."
Full Version: Nuclear Attack ?
QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 16 2008, 10:44 AM) 
Nuclear attack on D.C. a hypothetical disaster
By Gary Emerling
April 16, 2008
A nuclear device detonated near the White House would kill roughly 100,000 people and flatten downtown federal buildings, while the radioactive plume from the explosion would likely spread toward the Capitol and into Southeast D.C., contaminating thousands more.
The blast from the 10-kiloton bomb — similar to the bomb dropped over Hiroshima during World War II — would kill up to one in 10 tourists visiting the Washington Monument and send shards of glass flying the length of the National Mall, in a scenario that has become increasingly likely to occur in a major U.S. city in recent years, panel members told a Senate committee yesterday.
"It's inevitable," said Cham E. Dallas, director of the Institute for Health Management and Mass Destruction Defense at the University of Georgia, who has charted the potential explosion's effect in the District and testified before a hearing of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. "I think it's wistful to think that it won't happen by 20 years."
The Senate committee has convened a series of hearings to examine the threat and effects of a terrorist nuclear attack on a U.S. city, as well as the needed response.
Yesterday's panel stressed the importance of state and local cooperation with federal authorities in the wake of an attack, assistance from the private business sector to aid recovery and the dire need to boost the capabilities of area hospitals.
They recommended expanding emergency personnel by training physicians like pharmacists and dentists to aid in all-hazards care, monitoring the exposure of first responders to radiation and clearly disseminating information to the public.
"The scenarios we discuss today are very hard for us to contemplate, and so emotionally traumatic and unsettling that it is tempting to push them aside," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent and committee chairman. "However, now is the time to have this difficult conversation, to ask the tough questions, and then to get answers as best we can and take preparatory and preventive action."
By Gary Emerling
April 16, 2008
A nuclear device detonated near the White House would kill roughly 100,000 people and flatten downtown federal buildings, while the radioactive plume from the explosion would likely spread toward the Capitol and into Southeast D.C., contaminating thousands more.
The blast from the 10-kiloton bomb — similar to the bomb dropped over Hiroshima during World War II — would kill up to one in 10 tourists visiting the Washington Monument and send shards of glass flying the length of the National Mall, in a scenario that has become increasingly likely to occur in a major U.S. city in recent years, panel members told a Senate committee yesterday.
"It's inevitable," said Cham E. Dallas, director of the Institute for Health Management and Mass Destruction Defense at the University of Georgia, who has charted the potential explosion's effect in the District and testified before a hearing of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. "I think it's wistful to think that it won't happen by 20 years."
The Senate committee has convened a series of hearings to examine the threat and effects of a terrorist nuclear attack on a U.S. city, as well as the needed response.
Yesterday's panel stressed the importance of state and local cooperation with federal authorities in the wake of an attack, assistance from the private business sector to aid recovery and the dire need to boost the capabilities of area hospitals.
They recommended expanding emergency personnel by training physicians like pharmacists and dentists to aid in all-hazards care, monitoring the exposure of first responders to radiation and clearly disseminating information to the public.
"The scenarios we discuss today are very hard for us to contemplate, and so emotionally traumatic and unsettling that it is tempting to push them aside," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent and committee chairman. "However, now is the time to have this difficult conversation, to ask the tough questions, and then to get answers as best we can and take preparatory and preventive action."
How the U.S may be hit:
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters
...well this story from 2005 is interesting to say the least. link: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203
If I were to believe this article, the question I have is "why haven't they detonated them yet?" I have hearing this story for quite some time now. I have been watching Iran and what they have been saying and it appears that they may be the real AQ... (IRAN is AQ)
OBL is just a front man for them who follows their lines and their rules of engagement...one of their many lieutenants. I think the answer to them not detonating yet is simple enough... they are waiting for word from an Iranian mullah...their top leader and will strike during WWIII
One more point...they will not attack until they have ALL their pieces in place, which I believe they have now...and when they do attack again...it will be devastating!
The attack will be designed to cripple the US economically, morally and cause such devastation as to bankrupt the US and to cause utter havoc.
They have already set the death toll at 10 million re: Bin Laden has approval from an Islamic cleric for 10 million American deaths: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012821.php
A real twist to this is Russia wants this and so does China...they ALL want a world without America and Israel and Iran et al wants a world without America and Israel too.
How many 10's of millions will die during WWIII, and how many billions will die during the Great Tribulation?
The above is an imminent possibility. It really depends upon where we are on the Lord's time line. The USA fits the descripts in Revelation 17 and 18 at present ..... might be the EU in a future day. Or ..... it may just be both together. Satan's beast [little horn] and the 10 kings will arise in the Middle East ..... this is a "given" in scripture .... and where the focus of the visions are for sure. Will these and their followers be the core Middle Eastern Islamics of current? ..... almost without a doubt. These inhabitants of the Middle East are defined and named in scripture. But, if the Lord tarrys for another 500 years this could change over time. How likely is this .... not likely. All visionary prophecy for the time of the end is focused upon the Middle East where Israel is located. The vectors then point North, East, South, and West of Jerusalem. Satan's beast and his cohorts will deal sucessfully with all opposition from these corners and will defeat them all. The Lord will then call the game and destroy satan's ambitions in the process.
QUOTE (Earendel @ Apr 16 2008, 02:37 PM)
QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 16 2008, 10:44 AM)
Nuclear attack on D.C. a hypothetical disaster
By Gary Emerling
April 16, 2008
A nuclear device detonated near the White House would kill roughly 100,000 people and flatten downtown federal buildings, while the radioactive plume from the explosion would likely spread toward the Capitol and into Southeast D.C., contaminating thousands more.
The blast from the 10-kiloton bomb — similar to the bomb dropped over Hiroshima during World War II — would kill up to one in 10 tourists visiting the Washington Monument and send shards of glass flying the length of the National Mall, in a scenario that has become increasingly likely to occur in a major U.S. city in recent years, panel members told a Senate committee yesterday.
"It's inevitable," said Cham E. Dallas, director of the Institute for Health Management and Mass Destruction Defense at the University of Georgia, who has charted the potential explosion's effect in the District and testified before a hearing of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. "I think it's wistful to think that it won't happen by 20 years."
The Senate committee has convened a series of hearings to examine the threat and effects of a terrorist nuclear attack on a U.S. city, as well as the needed response.
Yesterday's panel stressed the importance of state and local cooperation with federal authorities in the wake of an attack, assistance from the private business sector to aid recovery and the dire need to boost the capabilities of area hospitals.
They recommended expanding emergency personnel by training physicians like pharmacists and dentists to aid in all-hazards care, monitoring the exposure of first responders to radiation and clearly disseminating information to the public.
"The scenarios we discuss today are very hard for us to contemplate, and so emotionally traumatic and unsettling that it is tempting to push them aside," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent and committee chairman. "However, now is the time to have this difficult conversation, to ask the tough questions, and then to get answers as best we can and take preparatory and preventive action."
By Gary Emerling
April 16, 2008
A nuclear device detonated near the White House would kill roughly 100,000 people and flatten downtown federal buildings, while the radioactive plume from the explosion would likely spread toward the Capitol and into Southeast D.C., contaminating thousands more.
The blast from the 10-kiloton bomb — similar to the bomb dropped over Hiroshima during World War II — would kill up to one in 10 tourists visiting the Washington Monument and send shards of glass flying the length of the National Mall, in a scenario that has become increasingly likely to occur in a major U.S. city in recent years, panel members told a Senate committee yesterday.
"It's inevitable," said Cham E. Dallas, director of the Institute for Health Management and Mass Destruction Defense at the University of Georgia, who has charted the potential explosion's effect in the District and testified before a hearing of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. "I think it's wistful to think that it won't happen by 20 years."
The Senate committee has convened a series of hearings to examine the threat and effects of a terrorist nuclear attack on a U.S. city, as well as the needed response.
Yesterday's panel stressed the importance of state and local cooperation with federal authorities in the wake of an attack, assistance from the private business sector to aid recovery and the dire need to boost the capabilities of area hospitals.
They recommended expanding emergency personnel by training physicians like pharmacists and dentists to aid in all-hazards care, monitoring the exposure of first responders to radiation and clearly disseminating information to the public.
"The scenarios we discuss today are very hard for us to contemplate, and so emotionally traumatic and unsettling that it is tempting to push them aside," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent and committee chairman. "However, now is the time to have this difficult conversation, to ask the tough questions, and then to get answers as best we can and take preparatory and preventive action."
How the U.S may be hit:
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters
...well this story from 2005 is interesting to say the least. link: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203
If I were to believe this article, the question I have is "why haven't they detonated them yet?" I have hearing this story for quite some time now. I have been watching Iran and what they have been saying and it appears that they may be the real AQ... (IRAN is AQ)
OBL is just a front man for them who follows their lines and their rules of engagement...one of their many lieutenants. I think the answer to them not detonating yet is simple enough... they are waiting for word from an Iranian mullah...their top leader and will strike during WWIII
One more point...they will not attack until they have ALL their pieces in place, which I believe they have now...and when they do attack again...it will be devastating!
The attack will be designed to cripple the US economically, morally and cause such devastation as to bankrupt the US and to cause utter havoc.
They have already set the death toll at 10 million re: Bin Laden has approval from an Islamic cleric for 10 million American deaths: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012821.php
A real twist to this is Russia wants this and so does China...they ALL want a world without America and Israel and Iran et al wants a world without America and Israel too.
How many 10's of millions will die during WWIII, and how many billions will die during the Great Tribulation?
I agree with what you are saying Earendel. I've said it before and i'll say it again. The rider on the red horse will soon make an appearance....followed closely by the riders on the pale and black horse. The rider of the white horse will come at a time, when all hope appears to be lost and after many millions and perhaps billions have died. Sadly most of mankind will embrace this figure as a savior. We all know who this rider on the white horse really represents.
God's Blessings!!
Rob
Rob,
"We all know who this rider on the white horse really represents."
>I would say ..... not the little horn.
>The red horse is more symbolic of this incarnation from the abyss. He will be a destroyer .... not a peace maker.
>His rational for destroying will be "peace". This is not unlike the teachings of Islam. Allah will not bring peace until all infidels are destroyed.
"We all know who this rider on the white horse really represents."
>I would say ..... not the little horn.
>The red horse is more symbolic of this incarnation from the abyss. He will be a destroyer .... not a peace maker.
>His rational for destroying will be "peace". This is not unlike the teachings of Islam. Allah will not bring peace until all infidels are destroyed.
ok. so we have 9/11. + major hurricanes, destruction of whole cites and extreme weather + earthquakes galore, including the big tsunami + war war war and rumors of war and more war + food shortages and fuel prices skyrocketing, exacerbating the food shortage + an increase in lawlessness and cooling off of love of the greater number + plagues that have only just begun + the collapse of the world's economy...
ALL THESE THINGS....
WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING, KNOW THAT HE IS NEAR, AT THE VERY DOOR!
bz
ALL THESE THINGS....
WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS HAPPENING, KNOW THAT HE IS NEAR, AT THE VERY DOOR!
bz
BZ,
Possible. But we do not know when the Lord will bring His coming judgment. He has not revealed this. The signs and events you refer to recorded in scripture will be those that will occur during the tribuation period .... not before. All of these things will then lead up to His visible presence on the earth to establish His millennial kingdom. There will be no warning given just before the Lord pulls the trigger to bring His judgment. He has said "like a snare it will come upon the whole world". The rabbit does not know he is heading into the trap until its too late. If he knew he would not enter. When the Lord does execute, there will be no question about His intervention .... the things that are going to take place will be unprecedented .... totally mind boggeling. Human disasters of the past and current will pale in comparison with what is to come.
Possible. But we do not know when the Lord will bring His coming judgment. He has not revealed this. The signs and events you refer to recorded in scripture will be those that will occur during the tribuation period .... not before. All of these things will then lead up to His visible presence on the earth to establish His millennial kingdom. There will be no warning given just before the Lord pulls the trigger to bring His judgment. He has said "like a snare it will come upon the whole world". The rabbit does not know he is heading into the trap until its too late. If he knew he would not enter. When the Lord does execute, there will be no question about His intervention .... the things that are going to take place will be unprecedented .... totally mind boggeling. Human disasters of the past and current will pale in comparison with what is to come.
Why have the terrorists not made use of the weapons they may already have on station?
I'll conjecture a reason: Because they are radical Islamics--very religious. My guess is they're praying for allah to destroy America. When the natural disasters come, they'll think he's taking the lead and open the box of attacks on America too.
We know it's not allah, however, and we know why God's judgment is likely coming to America.
In Christ,
Mike
I'll conjecture a reason: Because they are radical Islamics--very religious. My guess is they're praying for allah to destroy America. When the natural disasters come, they'll think he's taking the lead and open the box of attacks on America too.
We know it's not allah, however, and we know why God's judgment is likely coming to America.
In Christ,
Mike
Mike,
This is possible. Islamic terrorism is driven by fanatical religious motivations. This is what makes the threat extremely dangerous. Also, those that mastermind the Islamic militant movements are exceptionally smart, cunning, and satanically inspired. They will not execute until they are certain of a crushing blow. Obviously Allah is an imaginary god .... but satan is not imaginary. Allah is merely a cover for satan. A god whom their fathers knew not, a strange god .....the god of forces.
This is possible. Islamic terrorism is driven by fanatical religious motivations. This is what makes the threat extremely dangerous. Also, those that mastermind the Islamic militant movements are exceptionally smart, cunning, and satanically inspired. They will not execute until they are certain of a crushing blow. Obviously Allah is an imaginary god .... but satan is not imaginary. Allah is merely a cover for satan. A god whom their fathers knew not, a strange god .....the god of forces.
Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?
Seems like many war listed countries are associated with this concept. What is your opinion
Stephen ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.
Starting at the prime meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 33° north passes through:
Algeria;
Tunisia;
Libya;
The Mediterranean Sea;
Israel;
The Golan Heights;
Syria;
Jordan;
Iraq;
Iran;
Afghanistan;
Pakistan;
Kashmir (area administered by Pakistan, and area administered by India);
India;
Disputed area between India and the People's Republic of China;
The People's Republic of China (including Tibet);
East China Sea;
Japan (Nakadori, Kyūshū and Shikoku);
The Pacific Ocean;
The United States;
California (San Clemente Island and mainland);
Arizona;
New Mexico;
Texas;
Arkansas / Louisiana (see below);
Mississippi;
Alabama;
Georgia;
South Carolina;
The Atlantic Ocean;
Portugal (Porto Santo Island, Madeira);
Morocco.
The parallel is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
It also forms the common border between Arkansas in the north and Louisiana on the south. The Louisiana Territory was that part of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase which lay north of the 33rd parallel.
The 33rd Parallel is part of the horse latitudes.
Stephen:
What are your thoughts about items number : 3, 4, 18 . . . that I found on the internet ..... ? >
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine...onic-33rd.shtml
3.
1704-1662 B.C. The Babylonian empire was based in Babylon, near the 33rd Parallel. The empire stretched from the Persian Gulf to the middle Euphrates River and upper Tigris River regions. Hammurabi, the last great king of the first dynasty, developed his legal code and ordered it to be incised on a basalt column and placed in the temple of Shamash, the god of justice, for all to see.
4.
1500 B.C. Tel Megiddo: One of the most important archaeological mounds in Israel, Tel Megiddo has the remains of historic Megiddo, a fortified city that sat strategically on the ancient trunk road from Egypt to Syria and Mesopotamia. Near the 33rd Parallel, Tel Megiddo has served as an important junction and battlefield throughout history. It is mentioned in an Egyptian document over 3,500 years old, was one of the chariot cities of Kings Solomon and Ahab, and was the site where Josiah, King of Judah, fell in battle.
18.
1945 Roosevelt's successor was Harry S Truman. "I've got every degree in the Masons that there is," said Truman. Harry S Truman often told journalists, "The S doesn't stand for anything." However, after he attained the 33rd degree as a Mason, Truman secretly changed his name by adding the middle initial "S," which stood for Solomon. Truman's rise as a politician is traceable to Masonic sponsorship. He said that being Grand Master for the whole state of Missouri helped him win a U.S. Senate Seat in 1940. Truman's sister, Mary Jane Truman, was the Grand Matron of Missouri in the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic organization.
As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico, at the 33rd Parallel. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 16 2008, 02:31 PM)
Rob,
"We all know who this rider on the white horse really represents."
>I would say ..... not the little horn.
>The red horse is more symbolic of this incarnation from the abyss. He will be a destroyer .... not a peace maker.
>His rational for destroying will be "peace". This is not unlike the teachings of Islam. Allah will not bring peace until all infidels are destroyed.
"We all know who this rider on the white horse really represents."
>I would say ..... not the little horn.
>The red horse is more symbolic of this incarnation from the abyss. He will be a destroyer .... not a peace maker.
>His rational for destroying will be "peace". This is not unlike the teachings of Islam. Allah will not bring peace until all infidels are destroyed.
We agree to disagree again. lol
The Rider on the white horse represents "the little horn"...."the anti-christ".
The White Horse
"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer"(Rev. 6:1-2).
Most folks usually assume this refers to Jesus Christ. That is why multiple millions of people are deceived by false religions and a false or counterfeit Christianity! (11 Cor. 4:4; Rev. 12:9). A True Christian is one who follows the True Christ and has the infilling of the True Holy Spirit. So let's make certain we let Christ interpret this first horseman of the apocalypse.
Christ does return to this earth on a white horse. "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth GOETH A SHARP SWORD, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS"(Rev. 19:11-16).
But notice carefully, The true Christ has a SWORD-not a bow.
The man on the white horse (A False Christ, a False Messiah), as described in Revelation 6, is like the other three horsemen of the apocalypse, bringing great suffering and death upon the earth.
All Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse Ride under the Authority and control of Satan Himself. They represent the "Spirit and Power Of Antichrist" The spiritual manifestation of Satan, before the actual Physical appearance of "The Antichrist" The physical embodiment of Satan.
The first horseman is first because he causes the most suffering by far! He goes forth "conquering, and to conquer." The first horseman conquers by deceiving!
The other three horsemen, on the surface, would appear to cause far more serious catastrophes. Actually, the first horseman causes most of the gruesome events of the other three! These catastrophes occur because men are deceived. The first and most deadly horseman is a "False Christ, a False Messiah" representing the Spirit of Antichrist, bringing rebellion, disobedience and religious deception. As he rides he is bringing the "Spirit and Power of Antichrist" upon the world.
God's Blessings!!
Rob
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Apr 17 2008, 03:16 AM)
Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?
Seems like many war listed countries are associated with this concept. What is your opinion
Stephen ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.
Starting at the prime meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 33° north passes through:
Algeria;
Tunisia;
Libya;
The Mediterranean Sea;
Israel;
The Golan Heights;
Syria;
Jordan;
Iraq;
Iran;
Afghanistan;
Pakistan;
Kashmir (area administered by Pakistan, and area administered by India);
India;
Disputed area between India and the People's Republic of China;
The People's Republic of China (including Tibet);
East China Sea;
Japan (Nakadori, Kyūshū and Shikoku);
The Pacific Ocean;
The United States;
California (San Clemente Island and mainland);
Arizona;
New Mexico;
Texas;
Arkansas / Louisiana (see below);
Mississippi;
Alabama;
Georgia;
South Carolina;
The Atlantic Ocean;
Portugal (Porto Santo Island, Madeira);
Morocco.
The parallel is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
It also forms the common border between Arkansas in the north and Louisiana on the south. The Louisiana Territory was that part of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase which lay north of the 33rd parallel.
The 33rd Parallel is part of the horse latitudes.
Stephen:
What are your thoughts about items number : 3, 4, 18 . . . that I found on the internet ..... ? >
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine...onic-33rd.shtml
3.
1704-1662 B.C. The Babylonian empire was based in Babylon, near the 33rd Parallel. The empire stretched from the Persian Gulf to the middle Euphrates River and upper Tigris River regions. Hammurabi, the last great king of the first dynasty, developed his legal code and ordered it to be incised on a basalt column and placed in the temple of Shamash, the god of justice, for all to see.
4.
1500 B.C. Tel Megiddo: One of the most important archaeological mounds in Israel, Tel Megiddo has the remains of historic Megiddo, a fortified city that sat strategically on the ancient trunk road from Egypt to Syria and Mesopotamia. Near the 33rd Parallel, Tel Megiddo has served as an important junction and battlefield throughout history. It is mentioned in an Egyptian document over 3,500 years old, was one of the chariot cities of Kings Solomon and Ahab, and was the site where Josiah, King of Judah, fell in battle.
18.
1945 Roosevelt's successor was Harry S Truman. "I've got every degree in the Masons that there is," said Truman. Harry S Truman often told journalists, "The S doesn't stand for anything." However, after he attained the 33rd degree as a Mason, Truman secretly changed his name by adding the middle initial "S," which stood for Solomon. Truman's rise as a politician is traceable to Masonic sponsorship. He said that being Grand Master for the whole state of Missouri helped him win a U.S. Senate Seat in 1940. Truman's sister, Mary Jane Truman, was the Grand Matron of Missouri in the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic organization.
As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico, at the 33rd Parallel. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
the 33rd Parallel equation ?
Seems like many war listed countries are associated with this concept. What is your opinion
Stephen ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.
Starting at the prime meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 33° north passes through:
Algeria;
Tunisia;
Libya;
The Mediterranean Sea;
Israel;
The Golan Heights;
Syria;
Jordan;
Iraq;
Iran;
Afghanistan;
Pakistan;
Kashmir (area administered by Pakistan, and area administered by India);
India;
Disputed area between India and the People's Republic of China;
The People's Republic of China (including Tibet);
East China Sea;
Japan (Nakadori, Kyūshū and Shikoku);
The Pacific Ocean;
The United States;
California (San Clemente Island and mainland);
Arizona;
New Mexico;
Texas;
Arkansas / Louisiana (see below);
Mississippi;
Alabama;
Georgia;
South Carolina;
The Atlantic Ocean;
Portugal (Porto Santo Island, Madeira);
Morocco.
The parallel is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
It also forms the common border between Arkansas in the north and Louisiana on the south. The Louisiana Territory was that part of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase which lay north of the 33rd parallel.
The 33rd Parallel is part of the horse latitudes.
Stephen:
What are your thoughts about items number : 3, 4, 18 . . . that I found on the internet ..... ? >
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine...onic-33rd.shtml
3.
1704-1662 B.C. The Babylonian empire was based in Babylon, near the 33rd Parallel. The empire stretched from the Persian Gulf to the middle Euphrates River and upper Tigris River regions. Hammurabi, the last great king of the first dynasty, developed his legal code and ordered it to be incised on a basalt column and placed in the temple of Shamash, the god of justice, for all to see.
4.
1500 B.C. Tel Megiddo: One of the most important archaeological mounds in Israel, Tel Megiddo has the remains of historic Megiddo, a fortified city that sat strategically on the ancient trunk road from Egypt to Syria and Mesopotamia. Near the 33rd Parallel, Tel Megiddo has served as an important junction and battlefield throughout history. It is mentioned in an Egyptian document over 3,500 years old, was one of the chariot cities of Kings Solomon and Ahab, and was the site where Josiah, King of Judah, fell in battle.
18.
1945 Roosevelt's successor was Harry S Truman. "I've got every degree in the Masons that there is," said Truman. Harry S Truman often told journalists, "The S doesn't stand for anything." However, after he attained the 33rd degree as a Mason, Truman secretly changed his name by adding the middle initial "S," which stood for Solomon. Truman's rise as a politician is traceable to Masonic sponsorship. He said that being Grand Master for the whole state of Missouri helped him win a U.S. Senate Seat in 1940. Truman's sister, Mary Jane Truman, was the Grand Matron of Missouri in the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic organization.
As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico, at the 33rd Parallel. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
wow!
you've done a lot of research!
thanks
CSA,
"Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?"
The news article was posted for evaluating secular opinion related to the possibility of nuclear attacks against the USA. The Biblical connection may be Revelation 8:7-12, 18:1-21. I do not put any credence in numerology and related conspiracy theory evaluations for studying and interpreting the scriptures. I am aware of these ideas, but see a very different picture directly from the scriptures. I believe that the visions of the Bible prophets are primarily focused upon the Middle East with vectors oriented from Jerusalem; North, South, East, West. I also get the impression that the beast's kingdom will be centered in the Middle East as it was in the ancient past with a core following surrounding a captive Israel and with his successful defeat and subjection of the surrounding outer nations who will oppose his ambitions for world domination. His base location appears to be in the northern Middle East and his opposition will come first from the West and then from the South, East, and North. He will successfully defeat and suppress all of them, and then he will be confronted by the Lord who will destroy his kingdom and followers.
"Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?"
The news article was posted for evaluating secular opinion related to the possibility of nuclear attacks against the USA. The Biblical connection may be Revelation 8:7-12, 18:1-21. I do not put any credence in numerology and related conspiracy theory evaluations for studying and interpreting the scriptures. I am aware of these ideas, but see a very different picture directly from the scriptures. I believe that the visions of the Bible prophets are primarily focused upon the Middle East with vectors oriented from Jerusalem; North, South, East, West. I also get the impression that the beast's kingdom will be centered in the Middle East as it was in the ancient past with a core following surrounding a captive Israel and with his successful defeat and subjection of the surrounding outer nations who will oppose his ambitions for world domination. His base location appears to be in the northern Middle East and his opposition will come first from the West and then from the South, East, and North. He will successfully defeat and suppress all of them, and then he will be confronted by the Lord who will destroy his kingdom and followers.
QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 17 2008, 10:49 AM)
CSA,
"Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?"
The news article was posted for evaluating secular opinion related to the possibility of nuclear attacks against the USA. The Biblical connection may be Revelation 8:7-12, 18:1-21. I do not put any credence in numerology and related conspiracy theory evaluations for studying and interpreting the scriptures. I believe that the visions of the Bible prophets ae primarily focused upon the Middle East with vectors oriented from Jerusalem; North, South, East, West. I also get the impression that the beast's kingdom will be centered in the Middle East as it was in the ancient past with a core following surrounding a captive Israel and with his successful defeat and subjection of the surrounding outer nations who will oppose his ambitions for world domination. His base location appears to be in the northern Middle East and his opposition will come first from the West and then from the South, East, and North. He will successfully defeat and suppress all of them, and then he will be confronted by the Lord who will destroy his kingdom and followers.
"Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?"
The news article was posted for evaluating secular opinion related to the possibility of nuclear attacks against the USA. The Biblical connection may be Revelation 8:7-12, 18:1-21. I do not put any credence in numerology and related conspiracy theory evaluations for studying and interpreting the scriptures. I believe that the visions of the Bible prophets ae primarily focused upon the Middle East with vectors oriented from Jerusalem; North, South, East, West. I also get the impression that the beast's kingdom will be centered in the Middle East as it was in the ancient past with a core following surrounding a captive Israel and with his successful defeat and subjection of the surrounding outer nations who will oppose his ambitions for world domination. His base location appears to be in the northern Middle East and his opposition will come first from the West and then from the South, East, and North. He will successfully defeat and suppress all of them, and then he will be confronted by the Lord who will destroy his kingdom and followers.
Stephen :
I found these items for your evaluation . . .
( quote from Stephen ) :
His base location appears to be in the northern Middle East and his opposition will come first from the West and then from the South, East, and North
Crownsevenalphabet questions these items, compared to your commentary sentence I posted :
Jeremiah 50:3
King James Bible
For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast.
http://www.goodnewspirit.com/two-beasts.htm
That arrival cannot take place until after the United Nations fractures (Dan.8:8). That division will occur in a catastrophe that mimics the death of Alexander the Great. It will divide the world into four dissimilar spheres of governmental of them different from the global policies we are familiar with today. The ten-nation confederacy of the false prophet (the second beast) will rise to world power out of the smallest of these four divisions (Dan.8:9).
QUOTE (dennis mann @ Apr 17 2008, 03:50 AM)
QUOTE (crownsevenalphabet @ Apr 17 2008, 03:16 AM)
Since you have a Washington, DC post update . . . Where does Washington, DC fit into
the 33rd Parallel equation ?
Seems like many war listed countries are associated with this concept. What is your opinion
Stephen ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.
Starting at the prime meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 33° north passes through:
Algeria;
Tunisia;
Libya;
The Mediterranean Sea;
Israel;
The Golan Heights;
Syria;
Jordan;
Iraq;
Iran;
Afghanistan;
Pakistan;
Kashmir (area administered by Pakistan, and area administered by India);
India;
Disputed area between India and the People's Republic of China;
The People's Republic of China (including Tibet);
East China Sea;
Japan (Nakadori, Kyūshū and Shikoku);
The Pacific Ocean;
The United States;
California (San Clemente Island and mainland);
Arizona;
New Mexico;
Texas;
Arkansas / Louisiana (see below);
Mississippi;
Alabama;
Georgia;
South Carolina;
The Atlantic Ocean;
Portugal (Porto Santo Island, Madeira);
Morocco.
The parallel is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
It also forms the common border between Arkansas in the north and Louisiana on the south. The Louisiana Territory was that part of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase which lay north of the 33rd parallel.
The 33rd Parallel is part of the horse latitudes.
Stephen:
What are your thoughts about items number : 3, 4, 18 . . . that I found on the internet ..... ? >
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine...onic-33rd.shtml
3.
1704-1662 B.C. The Babylonian empire was based in Babylon, near the 33rd Parallel. The empire stretched from the Persian Gulf to the middle Euphrates River and upper Tigris River regions. Hammurabi, the last great king of the first dynasty, developed his legal code and ordered it to be incised on a basalt column and placed in the temple of Shamash, the god of justice, for all to see.
4.
1500 B.C. Tel Megiddo: One of the most important archaeological mounds in Israel, Tel Megiddo has the remains of historic Megiddo, a fortified city that sat strategically on the ancient trunk road from Egypt to Syria and Mesopotamia. Near the 33rd Parallel, Tel Megiddo has served as an important junction and battlefield throughout history. It is mentioned in an Egyptian document over 3,500 years old, was one of the chariot cities of Kings Solomon and Ahab, and was the site where Josiah, King of Judah, fell in battle.
18.
1945 Roosevelt's successor was Harry S Truman. "I've got every degree in the Masons that there is," said Truman. Harry S Truman often told journalists, "The S doesn't stand for anything." However, after he attained the 33rd degree as a Mason, Truman secretly changed his name by adding the middle initial "S," which stood for Solomon. Truman's rise as a politician is traceable to Masonic sponsorship. He said that being Grand Master for the whole state of Missouri helped him win a U.S. Senate Seat in 1940. Truman's sister, Mary Jane Truman, was the Grand Matron of Missouri in the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic organization.
As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico, at the 33rd Parallel. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
the 33rd Parallel equation ?
Seems like many war listed countries are associated with this concept. What is your opinion
Stephen ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.
Starting at the prime meridian and heading eastwards, the parallel 33° north passes through:
Algeria;
Tunisia;
Libya;
The Mediterranean Sea;
Israel;
The Golan Heights;
Syria;
Jordan;
Iraq;
Iran;
Afghanistan;
Pakistan;
Kashmir (area administered by Pakistan, and area administered by India);
India;
Disputed area between India and the People's Republic of China;
The People's Republic of China (including Tibet);
East China Sea;
Japan (Nakadori, Kyūshū and Shikoku);
The Pacific Ocean;
The United States;
California (San Clemente Island and mainland);
Arizona;
New Mexico;
Texas;
Arkansas / Louisiana (see below);
Mississippi;
Alabama;
Georgia;
South Carolina;
The Atlantic Ocean;
Portugal (Porto Santo Island, Madeira);
Morocco.
The parallel is notable for being the northern boundary of airspace controlled by Operation Southern Watch after the 1991 Gulf War and before the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.
It also forms the common border between Arkansas in the north and Louisiana on the south. The Louisiana Territory was that part of the 1803 Louisiana Purchase which lay north of the 33rd parallel.
The 33rd Parallel is part of the horse latitudes.
Stephen:
What are your thoughts about items number : 3, 4, 18 . . . that I found on the internet ..... ? >
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine...onic-33rd.shtml
3.
1704-1662 B.C. The Babylonian empire was based in Babylon, near the 33rd Parallel. The empire stretched from the Persian Gulf to the middle Euphrates River and upper Tigris River regions. Hammurabi, the last great king of the first dynasty, developed his legal code and ordered it to be incised on a basalt column and placed in the temple of Shamash, the god of justice, for all to see.
4.
1500 B.C. Tel Megiddo: One of the most important archaeological mounds in Israel, Tel Megiddo has the remains of historic Megiddo, a fortified city that sat strategically on the ancient trunk road from Egypt to Syria and Mesopotamia. Near the 33rd Parallel, Tel Megiddo has served as an important junction and battlefield throughout history. It is mentioned in an Egyptian document over 3,500 years old, was one of the chariot cities of Kings Solomon and Ahab, and was the site where Josiah, King of Judah, fell in battle.
18.
1945 Roosevelt's successor was Harry S Truman. "I've got every degree in the Masons that there is," said Truman. Harry S Truman often told journalists, "The S doesn't stand for anything." However, after he attained the 33rd degree as a Mason, Truman secretly changed his name by adding the middle initial "S," which stood for Solomon. Truman's rise as a politician is traceable to Masonic sponsorship. He said that being Grand Master for the whole state of Missouri helped him win a U.S. Senate Seat in 1940. Truman's sister, Mary Jane Truman, was the Grand Matron of Missouri in the Order of the Eastern Star, a Masonic organization.
As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico, at the 33rd Parallel. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.
wow!
you've done a lot of research!
thanks
Dennis :
I found these today . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_of_America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbala
The first Capital - for a very brief period - likely for purposes of
anointing the Confederacy with supernatural powers was Montgomery, Alabama - for barely two months. ...more. The 33rd parallel passes through Alabama. The 33rd parallel does not pass through Virginia were The Confederate Capital was immediately moved to. This may be indicative of an ulterior motive in the Montgomery capital selection. THE LATITUDE FOR MONTGOMERY , ALABAMA , BABYLON AND KARBALA ,IRAQ WHERE SHIA ISLAM’S FOUNDER WAS DECAPITATED ARE IDENTICAL Please google the terms yourself for purposes of verification or use a map or globe.
The entire family of the prophet Mohammed was killed there. His grandson
Hussein’s head was then taken by spear point to Damascus on the 33rd parallel.
...more. This alignment is where the Confederacy was born.
CSA,
"Jeremiah 50:3
King James Bible
For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast."
"http://www.goodnewspirit.com/two-beasts.htm
That arrival cannot take place until after the United Nations fractures (Dan.8:8). That division will occur in a catastrophe that mimics the death of Alexander the Great. It will divide the world into four dissimilar spheres of governmental of them different from the global policies we are familiar with today. The ten-nation confederacy of the false prophet (the second beast) will rise to world power out of the smallest of these four divisions (Dan.8:9)."
>I believe that the passages in Daniel give a different rendering. Daniel 8:8 refers to Alexander the Great [the great horn], his Asian kingdom divided, and with two of the divisions [Syrio/ Babylonia and Egypt] then tracked to Antiochus IV, king of the north [Daniel 21-35]. Daniel 8:9-12 and 8:23-25 describe the coming little horn. The vision jumps to the time of the end with the little horn rising out of the same northern location. His rise to power and war campaign is presented in [Daniel 11:36-45, 12:7].
>I believe the scripture from Jeremiah is a fulfilled prophecy of ancient neo-Babylon's past invasion against Israel.
>I do not see a UN confederacy at all, but 10 divisions of the Middle East emerging out of the ancient dominions of the leopard, lion, bear [ancient Greek, Persian, neo-Babylonian] geographics as the confederacy of satan's beast [little horn]. I see the first beast of Revelation as the incarnated little horn with the second beast as the false prophet who will lead the religious cult of the first. I see that both of these entities are fallen angelics who will do satan's bidding on the earth at the time of the end. Abaddon-Apollyon is the angelic king of the abyss [Revelation 9:11,11:7,17:8] who will incarnate the little horn, human king of the north located in the Middle East.
>This beast rules over 7 dominions for satan in the Middle East. Five are ancient and historical, and two are still pending. He will rule the 7th with 10 other human kings [horns]. The second beast [false prophet] is also a fallen angelic and this entity will manifest in two human clerics [two horns] who will lead the cult of Abaddon-Apollyon. The little horn will hold both of the two remanining king positions [6th & 7th], beginning with a smaller northern dominion and then expanding it to include most of the Middle East. Abaddon-Apollyon will incarnate the human king and become the 8th king himself ruling over his 7th dominion.
"Jeremiah 50:3
King James Bible
For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast."
"http://www.goodnewspirit.com/two-beasts.htm
That arrival cannot take place until after the United Nations fractures (Dan.8:8). That division will occur in a catastrophe that mimics the death of Alexander the Great. It will divide the world into four dissimilar spheres of governmental of them different from the global policies we are familiar with today. The ten-nation confederacy of the false prophet (the second beast) will rise to world power out of the smallest of these four divisions (Dan.8:9)."
>I believe that the passages in Daniel give a different rendering. Daniel 8:8 refers to Alexander the Great [the great horn], his Asian kingdom divided, and with two of the divisions [Syrio/ Babylonia and Egypt] then tracked to Antiochus IV, king of the north [Daniel 21-35]. Daniel 8:9-12 and 8:23-25 describe the coming little horn. The vision jumps to the time of the end with the little horn rising out of the same northern location. His rise to power and war campaign is presented in [Daniel 11:36-45, 12:7].
>I believe the scripture from Jeremiah is a fulfilled prophecy of ancient neo-Babylon's past invasion against Israel.
>I do not see a UN confederacy at all, but 10 divisions of the Middle East emerging out of the ancient dominions of the leopard, lion, bear [ancient Greek, Persian, neo-Babylonian] geographics as the confederacy of satan's beast [little horn]. I see the first beast of Revelation as the incarnated little horn with the second beast as the false prophet who will lead the religious cult of the first. I see that both of these entities are fallen angelics who will do satan's bidding on the earth at the time of the end. Abaddon-Apollyon is the angelic king of the abyss [Revelation 9:11,11:7,17:8] who will incarnate the little horn, human king of the north located in the Middle East.
>This beast rules over 7 dominions for satan in the Middle East. Five are ancient and historical, and two are still pending. He will rule the 7th with 10 other human kings [horns]. The second beast [false prophet] is also a fallen angelic and this entity will manifest in two human clerics [two horns] who will lead the cult of Abaddon-Apollyon. The little horn will hold both of the two remanining king positions [6th & 7th], beginning with a smaller northern dominion and then expanding it to include most of the Middle East. Abaddon-Apollyon will incarnate the human king and become the 8th king himself ruling over his 7th dominion.
QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 17 2008, 11:33 AM)
CSA,
"Jeremiah 50:3
King James Bible
For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast."
"http://www.goodnewspirit.com/two-beasts.htm
That arrival cannot take place until after the United Nations fractures (Dan.8:8). That division will occur in a catastrophe that mimics the death of Alexander the Great. It will divide the world into four dissimilar spheres of governmental of them different from the global policies we are familiar with today. The ten-nation confederacy of the false prophet (the second beast) will rise to world power out of the smallest of these four divisions (Dan.8:9)."
>I believe that the passages in Daniel give a different rendering. Daniel 8:8 refers to Alexander the Great [the great horn], his Asian kingdom divided, and with two of the divisions [Syrio/ Babylonia and Egypt] then tracked to Antiochus IV, king of the north [Daniel 21-35]. Daniel 8:9-12 and 8:23-25 describe the coming little horn. The vision jumps to the time of the end with the little horn rising out of the same northern location. His rise to power and war campaign is presented in [Daniel 11:36-45, 12:7].
>I believe the scripture from Jeremiah is a fulfilled prophecy of ancient neo-Babylon's past invasion against Israel.
>I do not see a UN confederacy at all, but 10 divisions of the Middle East emerging out of the ancient dominions of the leopard, lion, bear [ancient Greek, Persian, neo-Babylonian] geographics as the confederacy of satan's beast [little horn]. I see the first beast of Revelation as the incarnated little horn with the second beast as the false prophet who will lead the religious cult of the first. I see that both of these entities are fallen angelics who will do satan's bidding on the earth at the time of the end. Abaddon-Apollyon is the angelic king of the abyss [Revelation 9:11,11:7,17:8] who will incarnate the little horn, human king of the north located in the Middle East.
>This beast rules over 7 dominions for satan in the Middle East. Five are ancient and historical, and two are still pending. He will rule the 7th with 10 other human kings [horns]. The second beast [false prophet] is also a fallen angelic and this entity will manifest in two human clerics [two horns] who will lead the cult of Abaddon-Apollyon. The little horn will hold both of the two remanining king positions [6th & 7th], beginning with a smaller northern dominion and then expanding it to include most of the Middle East. Abaddon-Apollyon will incarnate the human king and become the 8th king himself ruling over his 7th dominion.
"Jeremiah 50:3
King James Bible
For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast."
"http://www.goodnewspirit.com/two-beasts.htm
That arrival cannot take place until after the United Nations fractures (Dan.8:8). That division will occur in a catastrophe that mimics the death of Alexander the Great. It will divide the world into four dissimilar spheres of governmental of them different from the global policies we are familiar with today. The ten-nation confederacy of the false prophet (the second beast) will rise to world power out of the smallest of these four divisions (Dan.8:9)."
>I believe that the passages in Daniel give a different rendering. Daniel 8:8 refers to Alexander the Great [the great horn], his Asian kingdom divided, and with two of the divisions [Syrio/ Babylonia and Egypt] then tracked to Antiochus IV, king of the north [Daniel 21-35]. Daniel 8:9-12 and 8:23-25 describe the coming little horn. The vision jumps to the time of the end with the little horn rising out of the same northern location. His rise to power and war campaign is presented in [Daniel 11:36-45, 12:7].
>I believe the scripture from Jeremiah is a fulfilled prophecy of ancient neo-Babylon's past invasion against Israel.
>I do not see a UN confederacy at all, but 10 divisions of the Middle East emerging out of the ancient dominions of the leopard, lion, bear [ancient Greek, Persian, neo-Babylonian] geographics as the confederacy of satan's beast [little horn]. I see the first beast of Revelation as the incarnated little horn with the second beast as the false prophet who will lead the religious cult of the first. I see that both of these entities are fallen angelics who will do satan's bidding on the earth at the time of the end. Abaddon-Apollyon is the angelic king of the abyss [Revelation 9:11,11:7,17:8] who will incarnate the little horn, human king of the north located in the Middle East.
>This beast rules over 7 dominions for satan in the Middle East. Five are ancient and historical, and two are still pending. He will rule the 7th with 10 other human kings [horns]. The second beast [false prophet] is also a fallen angelic and this entity will manifest in two human clerics [two horns] who will lead the cult of Abaddon-Apollyon. The little horn will hold both of the two remanining king positions [6th & 7th], beginning with a smaller northern dominion and then expanding it to include most of the Middle East. Abaddon-Apollyon will incarnate the human king and become the 8th king himself ruling over his 7th dominion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_parallel_north
The parallel 33° north is an imaginary circle of latitude that is 33 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane.
( quote from Stephen )
>I do not see a UN confederacy at all, but 10 divisions of the Middle East emerging out of the ancient dominions of the leopard, lion, bear [ancient Greek, Persian, neo-Babylonian] geographics as the confederacy of satan's beast [little horn].
Question ? Are the leopard, lion, bear all part of the parallel 33 degree north ?
Not from a heresy viewpoint. View it as a geography question ? I need this answer . . .
CSA,
These three ancient empires all had there core centers in the Middle East. Their geographical terrirories covered most of the area each and succeeding was larger. You can find the extents of each on internet maps. The other two of the 5 fallen ancient dominions of satan's beast were the Land of Magog and the Akkadian/Assyrian Empire. All five of these dominions were centered in the same location.
These three ancient empires all had there core centers in the Middle East. Their geographical terrirories covered most of the area each and succeeding was larger. You can find the extents of each on internet maps. The other two of the 5 fallen ancient dominions of satan's beast were the Land of Magog and the Akkadian/Assyrian Empire. All five of these dominions were centered in the same location.
QUOTE (Stephen @ Apr 17 2008, 03:16 PM)
CSA,
These three ancient empires all had there core centers in the Middle East. Their geographical terrirories covered most of the area each and succeeding was larger. You can find the extents of each on internet maps. The other two of the 5 fallen ancient dominions of satan's beast were the Land of Magog and the Akkadian/Assyrian Empire. All five of these dominions were centered in the same location.
These three ancient empires all had there core centers in the Middle East. Their geographical terrirories covered most of the area each and succeeding was larger. You can find the extents of each on internet maps. The other two of the 5 fallen ancient dominions of satan's beast were the Land of Magog and the Akkadian/Assyrian Empire. All five of these dominions were centered in the same location.
Click here: Gog and Magog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Addressing Gog and Magog, God describes how the attacks will be repelled (Ezekiel 39:1-16). The army of Gog and Magog primarily includes people from the nations of Gog, Gomer, Tubal, Meshech, and the house of Togarmah from the North, the latter of which are mentioned as descendants of Japheth in Genesis (q.v.). God describes the aftermath of the battle later in the same chapter, addressing "thou, son of Man":
17. …,thus says the Lord, "Speak to every bird and every beast of the field, 'Assemble yourselves and come,…'"[10]
18. "You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams and lambs, of goats and bulls, all them fatlings of Bashan"[11]
Ezekiel (38 and 39) says that Gog will be defeated.
[edit] New Testament
Gog and Magog are mentioned in the New Testament Book of Revelation, which draws on the depiction of them in the older prophetic works. They appear in verses 20:7-8:
7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
8. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (KJV)
Here, Gog and Magog are identified as the nations in the four corners of the earth, and their attack is represented as an eschatological crisis after the Millennium, to be vanquished by divine intervention. The language of Gog and Magog's destruction is very similar to that of their mention in Ezekiel.
Also I found this :
Click here: GOG & MAGOG
http://www.geocities.com/amuse_amenace/gog.htm
You might want to look at the posting on the two Gog's and magog's. I have data posted there.
Briefly .....
Ezekiel's vision has two parts. It is a "book end" structure vision which is common to visionary prophecy. There is a breach in time lapse between the two parts.
1.The initial invasion of Israel at the midpoint of the 70th week
2.The resultant battle of Armageddon at the ene of the 70th week
The vision does not cover the details of the ensuing rule of satan's beast for 42 months. This will occur between the initial invasion and the battle of Armageddon. Ezekiel's record of Armageddon is exactly the same as Revelation's account. Satan [gog] will be restrained for 1,000 years after Armageddon and will then be released 1,000 years later to foment another human rebellion. This action is different than the battle of Armageddon.
Briefly .....
Ezekiel's vision has two parts. It is a "book end" structure vision which is common to visionary prophecy. There is a breach in time lapse between the two parts.
1.The initial invasion of Israel at the midpoint of the 70th week
2.The resultant battle of Armageddon at the ene of the 70th week
The vision does not cover the details of the ensuing rule of satan's beast for 42 months. This will occur between the initial invasion and the battle of Armageddon. Ezekiel's record of Armageddon is exactly the same as Revelation's account. Satan [gog] will be restrained for 1,000 years after Armageddon and will then be released 1,000 years later to foment another human rebellion. This action is different than the battle of Armageddon.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.