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Shekel

Sep 10 2005, 11:05 PM

Quote by Kim Clement:

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"YES! On Sept 3rd, 2005 in Whittier, CA Kim prophesied about this and more. Here's an excerpt from that night:

September 3, 2005- Whittier, CA

"What took place in New Orleans caused America to go into even a greater crisis. It’s not the oil it’s the refining of the oil that’s the problem.....

When this happens, the United States shall rise above the wealth of the Middle East in terms of oil, and it shall take over, and they shall say now take your oil and shove it. This is the time for America to press in."

Is this really something that the Holy Spirit would prompt one of His servant to say?

Or is God testing our hearts to see "whether we love the Lord our God will all of our hearts and mind?"

Another quote by Kim about the new pope:

April 13, 2003- Humble, TX

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“Do I hear Catholics praying? There is a move of My Spirit moving among the Catholic people. They are dissatisfied. Their children have been abused…taken advantage of. They are praying for God to come into a system and shake it. Your prayers are being sent into the very highest powers of the Roman Catholic Church. For a Pope shall be laid to rest, and I will raise up an unusual man that will take that position. And even though some of you despise this, I will raise up an unusual man that will come in and bring the Spirit of God amongst the Roman Catholic people. Think it not possible, but it shall be so, says the spirit of the Lord..."

Another 'word' on the day Pope John Paul 2 died. April 2, 2005- Portland, OR

A New Pope

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“In this day where death took place from an office that was so high, a shaking shall begin through these summer months where great leaders of yesterday will lay down their sword and they shall meet their Maker. For the time of the death has come where I will remove some of the old and then millions and millions shall come into the Kingdom at one moment.

For in 21 days from now a shaking will take place in the Roman Catholic Church. They will say, No it can not be.Why would they elect such a person? And then they will say, No we can not do it at this time. But it shall be done and I will bring the Spirit into the Roman Catholic Church and the Vatican. There will be an infilling of the Spirit of the Cardinals and the priests. This day I have received a servant. This day you call him the Pope. This day I call him My son. This day you said a pope has died, this day I say a servant has won. I have raised up a new voice and a new spirit that shall come into Italy, and I shall invade Europe in a way that I have planned thousands of years ago. Where they shall say, What is happening in these places? The Spirit of God shall fall in buildings of rock and stone. It shall fall in places where they least believed it. I will cause chaos and I will say to them now I will take people by the hundreds of millions and share my Spirit with them. For I will raise up a man that shall continue, and they will say in the beginning he won’t be able to do it. But there shall be an experience after 33 days and a raising up and a resurrection. And a Spirit filled pope that will raise up a voice, and he shall speak the truth, and they will say, We must get him out of the way. But rejoice this day for there are deaths of many great leaders, because it is necessary so that I can raise up a new generation of men and women that will go in to the marketplace and raise up the name of Yahweh.

http://www.kimclement.com/words/2005/Apr22005.htm

Far from being some savior to the Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI opposes evangelical Christians. Pope Benedict was the 'status quo' choice, the very opposite of this prophecy! Come now, God's people, don't be afraid to think!

Miki

Sep 11 2005, 05:40 AM

Please continue to help us look into these matters!

We have to ask ourselves what the hidden agenda could be, since politics are playing such a strong roll in this ministry.

Marta

Sep 11 2005, 06:56 PM

QUOTE(Miki @ Sep 11 2005, 04:40 AM)

Please continue to help us look into these matters!

We have to ask ourselves what the hidden agenda could be, since politics are playing such a strong roll in this ministry.
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You know......the SHOPPING link on the website was my third red flag after what Shekel responded regarding Kim's quotes.

Please don't be deceived by these type of people....c'mon!! Go to the sites that don't sell things..........Shekel's is a good one!

Sail2awe

Sep 11 2005, 09:12 PM

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You know......the SHOPPING link

That is how far I got and clicked out right away, cleared my cache, del my cookies, &c, lol.

Miki

Sep 12 2005, 07:55 AM

That's why l wondered how Paul would feel about selling the word. I don't mean the Bible which you can get for free anyway. I mean the prophetic word...

Still...he doesn't take back the gifts. Maybe that's why some is still right.

It should scare us all about what we say the Lord says...Always better to declare our own falibility than say thus saith the Lord to anybody but ourselves?

In other words, l can say this is what the Lord said to me. But l'm walking on thin ice when l say he said it to you to. Who can walk on water?

I'm not saying God doesn't speak through men because God doesn't change. But because of the warnings in his word we have to be extra careful.

When l want to pray for Kim l feel an invisable wall. I've felt this wall in other areas before and have wondered about it?

Miki

Sep 29 2005, 07:05 AM

I'm not set in stone on these issues.

I saw Kim on TV last night. I don't have a transcript and don't want to get it wrong but basically he said that at the end of October this country will see it's greatest revival yet. Christians would have favor.

He said it would be a quick work...as opposed to taking years, it would come suddenly....He said it wouldn't just be in pockets but would cover the land. (He didn't use those exact words).

He said a lot last night. He said prophets would be more direct and that the parable in prophecy would take the back seat so to speak...

He said this country would no longer be dependent on our source of energy but there would be something new.

As l said in another post that l've come to believe the yea sayers and ney sayers are both correct. We just need to blend what we receive.

My question is....

If what Kim says is true about a coming revival at the end of Oct. then something has to cause it.........................................

Simple

Sep 29 2005, 07:13 AM

Mic 2:11 If a man walking in the spirit and falsehood do lie, [saying], I will prophesy unto thee of wine and of strong drink; he shall even be the prophet of this people.

Jer 29:23 Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours' wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and [am] a witness, saith the LORD.

It'll be interesting when all our words are judged at J.D.

lovingHIM

Sep 29 2005, 08:18 AM

QUOTE(Miki @ Sep 29 2005, 07:05 AM)

I'm not set in stone on these issues.

I saw Kim on TV last night. I don't have a transcript and don't want to get it wrong but basically he said that at the end of October this country will see it's greatest revival yet. Christians would have favor.

He said it would be a quick work...as opposed to taking years, it would come suddenly....He said it wouldn't just be in pockets but would cover the land. (He didn't use those exact words).

He said a lot last night. He said prophets would be more direct and that the parable in prophecy would take the back seat so to speak...

He said this country would no longer be dependent on our source of energy but there would be something new.

As l said in another post that l've come to believe the yea sayers and ney sayers are both correct. We just need to blend what we receive.

My question is....

If what Kim says is true about a coming revival at the end of Oct. then something has to cause it.........................................

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Miki, Kim Clement had said, I think last month, that something on the west coast was about to happen. I believe he said in October, shortly before Halloween. If I remember correctly he said this happening would be right before this revival he spoke about. He also has said that God's people are to watch for a new source of oil that would come from American soil that America would be self sufficient and not need other countries for fuel any longer. I will for one be watching to see how accurate his prophesies are. I know he did get New Orleans right. But for the most part I don't see a very accurate track record.

Miki

Sep 29 2005, 05:13 PM

I happened to get my little TV fixed. I needed a new antenna. When l set it up to test it l turned it on and Kim C. was just coming on as a repeat from last night so l tried to take notes. You should look for a transcript.

After Kim broke both arms and hands in 94 he had visions for 5 days. This is when God first showed him the end of October of 2005. He talked about the flood. Noah sent the dove out but the dove found no place to rest. Then he sent it out again in the 10th month (he said he knows the Jewish calender is different). In the 10th month the tops of the mountains could be seen. The Holy Spirit will find a place to rest. Daniel and Isaiah saw it.

Aug. Sept. Oct. Great purging---Great aggitation and anger against us. End of Oct. the greatest outpouring our country has ever known. It comes out of the cleansing. Oct. 31st...something unusual.

He said the Bible Belt will be unbuckled because of the religiostity. There's always a great sign in the elements before a great break through.

He's raising up Prophets to prepare the people for what's to come. Some have said it's too late but God say's it's not to late. (I in fact have said just that)

He also said when you get a word from the Lord it will be the last comfortable day of you life...
He said what ever you said the opposite will attempt to take place and a great spiritual battle will be waged against you.

When he was in Portland this summer he suddenly said "Port Aurthur pack your bags. Get out of town" He said water water everywhere and even threw a bottle of water on the floor.

He also taked about digging ditches to contain it?(revival) but l didn't understand that part.
What l did think of when he said unbuckle the Bible Belt is earthquake...???

lifeinhim61

Sep 30 2005, 06:45 AM

QUOTE(Miki @ Sep 29 2005, 06:13 PM)

I happened to get my little TV fixed. I needed a new antenna. When l set it up to test it l turned it on and Kim C. was just coming on as a repeat from last night so l tried to take notes. You should look for a transcript.

After Kim broke both arms and hands in 94 he had visions for 5 days. This is when God first showed him the end of October of 2005. He talked about the flood. Noah sent the dove out but the dove found no place to rest. Then he sent it out again in the 10th month (he said he knows the Jewish calender is different). In the 10th month the tops of the mountains could be seen. The Holy Spirit will find a place to rest. Daniel and Isaiah saw it.

Aug. Sept. Oct. Great purging---Great aggitation and anger against us. End of Oct. the greatest outpouring our country has ever known. It comes out of the cleansing. Oct. 31st...something unusual.

He said the Bible Belt will be unbuckled because of the religiostity. There's always a great sign in the elements before a great break through.

He's raising up Prophets to prepare the people for what's to come. Some have said it's too late but God say's it's not to late. (I in fact have said just that)

He also said when you get a word from the Lord it will be the last comfortable day of you life...
He said what ever you said the opposite will attempt to take place and a great spiritual battle will be waged against you.

When he was in Portland this summer he suddenly said "Port Aurthur pack your bags. Get out of town" He said water water everywhere and even threw a bottle of water on the floor.

He also taked about digging ditches to contain it?(revival) but l didn't understand that part.
What l did think of when he said unbuckle the Bible Belt is earthquake...???
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Miki,

I saw the same program 2 nights ago and the earthquake was what immediately hit me when he said unbuckling the Bible Belt. I felt a jump in my spirit when he talked about Oct. 31. The rest of the prophecies I went and checked out on the website, but don't feel real peace about much of it. I am being careful and checking things out because Satan is good at looking like the truth. A prophet is a true prophet if the things he prophesies comes to pass. We shall see, but I am getting a very agitated feeling about his Oct. prediction. Thanks for posting this! Glad to see that many people are aware of these broadcasts and are paying attention!! :-)

lovingHIM

Sep 30 2005, 09:02 AM

I live in the biblebelt....
I was thinking about something on this October issue. If you are listening/reading to what the "prophets" are saying regarding October half are saying one thing half another. I am hearing one side saying that the last 3 months of the year (Oct., Nov., Dec.) are going to be God's outpouring to His people. Wonderful miricles, healings, prosperity, ect. Now the others are saying something "big" is going to happen in Oct on the west coast. So which is it? One or the other or both? Would God being doing 2 things at the same time? Shakings and blessings? Thoughts?

Miki

Sep 30 2005, 09:08 AM

That's my take on it. Outpouring after purging and cleansing.

Shekel

Sep 30 2005, 09:50 AM

He also said that America will be super blessed by the end of this summer,

"But this country will rejoice greatly at the end of this summer." I was keeping an eye on this prophecy...

but by the end of this summer Sept. 22, 2005, America was looking the most bleak perhaps ever, with Katrina just occuring and Rita then about to strike. It was a time of mourning --- the very opposite.

Is it possible that God did call this man and all that but under pressure of men he has drifted away andnow mixes man-pleasing words in with past revelations?

Is another spirit stealing true messages from true prophets and twisting them?

Just a thought.

But all this peace and prosperity stuff just reeks. And people have been prophecing a mighty revival in America every day since ever I knew.

I had trouble finding the prophecy in Kim's website about "the end of summer." It looks like he removed it. But fortunately a great number of others posted it so I found it by a Google seach.

"Then on June 28 of this year he said:

”God says, “You pray, for your prayers will shake the Nation, your prayers will shake this Nation. Those who have endeavored, once again, to bring from the ashes; corruption, it shall not happen. But this country will rejoice greatly at the end of this summer. August, September and October are your months of great satisfaction,” says the Lord.”

So far August and September have not been very satisfying financially or tranquality wise. And the comment that "by the end of summer you will rejoice greatly" was so wrong as to make me think that God is trying to release his people from this falsehood by allowing the very opposite of what he says.

And to say that 'the Roman Catholic Church will be filled with His Holy Spirit' is plain dangerous. A good thing he was wrong. For if something dramatic had happened it would have been a deception made worse by Kim's prophecy.

Simple

Sep 30 2005, 09:55 AM

exactly

Shekel

Sep 30 2005, 10:20 AM

I hate to say this, lest I be misunderstood, but it seems like everything that the Lord has shown me and I put on the web sites Kim is predicting the very opposite.

And yet there are a few notable exceptions such as the Iraq war. But on those things that matter most we are diametrically opposed.

What are those things that matter most?

The identity of mystery Babylon, which the Lord has shown me includes New York politically speaking (and America as a whole), Rome spiritually speaking, and the EU collectively --- likely working with the UN. (Kim says that the UN will be dissolved.) (Iraq is literal ancient Babylon.)

http://www.bible-codes.org/bible-code-prophecies-lamp-5b.htm

And Israel's place is all this is also very key.

To confuse these things and rather focus in on prosperity instead is what I am objecting to. See the blackouts as God's sign of who is Babylon!

http://www.bible-codes.org/bible-code-prophecies-lamp-5b.htm

http://www.bible-codes.org/bible-prophecy-code-Saddam-5-.htm

blindzebra

Sep 30 2005, 10:27 AM

NO!! it is NOT OUR PRAYERS THAT WILL SHAKE THIS NATION and indeed EVERY NATION!!

IT IS GOD WHO WILL SHAKE THE NATIONS!!!!!

and GREAT TROUBLE IS NEAR UPON US!

GOD WILL SHAKE THE NATIONS!!

that all the DESIRABLE THINGS FROM ALL NATIONS MAY COME IN TO HIM!!

it is NOT PEACE!!!!! no!!! but WOE!!!! WOE!!! to lead to REPENTANCE!!

GOD WILL GATHER BACK TO HIMSELF THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SCATTERED AMONG THE NATIONS!

HE WILL ROCK THE NATIONS!!! and he will ROCK THEM HARD!!!

during this time>>CLING TO THE ROCK! --Deut. 32:4

the false prophets declare PEACE! PEACE! but there shall be no PEACE until TRUE JUSTICE is BROUGHT IN!!

and it will NOT be by means of MANS efforts!
no...

BUT BY MEANS OF GOD'S SPIRIT ...JEHOVAH SHALL ACCOMPLISH THESE THINGS!! and you will not believe your eyes...but do not walk by means of your eyes....but walk in FAITH IN THE PROMISES OF HIM THAT IS TRUE~!

-bz

lovingHIM

Sep 30 2005, 10:43 AM

Amen, BZ!

ASC2

Sep 30 2005, 11:30 AM

Beware my brothers and sisters in attacking other Christians for the Lord tells us to be supportive, kind, encouraging and loving one another.

If you feel Kim Clement is not speaking words your spirit hears, then use your spirit to listen to the Lord, for He will guide you in all things.

blindzebra

Sep 30 2005, 11:40 AM

do you remember JEREMIAH? what WAS Jeremiah to be aware of?
how were his words received by the 'popular prophets' of the day?
AND HOW DID JEREMIAH'S WORDS COMPARE TO THAT OF THE FALSE PROPHETS? How about ISAIAH? how about ANY and ALL of the prophets? how were their messages received?
i assure you....they were not 'feel good' messages of GOD.

But they were messages of warning and of JUDGMENT.

But let speak the TRUTH. FOR God's word is TRUTH.

Beware that you do not seek to HINDER what is TRUE!!

they will cry "peace and security".....but that is not what is coming to the nations...no.....but WOE!!!

Shekel

Sep 30 2005, 05:56 PM

QUOTE(ASC2 @ Sep 30 2005, 12:30 PM)

Beware my brothers and sisters in attacking other Christians for the Lord tells us to be supportive, kind, encouraging and loving one another.

If you feel Kim Clement is not speaking words your spirit hears, then use your spirit to listen to the Lord, for He will guide you in all things.
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I appreciate your concern, and we want to be gracious. But on the other hand we are commanded to test all things and to hold on to that which is good. The fact that Kim is so well known demands a stricter assessment of him. If he were just one of the brothers in a local church, so to speak, you would speak to him privately and encourage him to be more careful before he speaks. But this is not that situation. Error hurts and destoys peoples lives. If the direction and thrust of his ministy is amiss then we should call attention to it other wise like sheep all will stumble off the cliff. The thrust is wrong, as are many of the prophecies. Should we not call attention to it for the sake of the little sheep? If I am wrong may God vindicate him with this awesome revival by the end of October --- like we have never seen --- whole news stations like CNN preaching the gospel. May it be and I will humbly acknowledge I was premature in my judgement and ask all, especially the Lord, to forgive me for speaking in ignorance.

I hope I am wrong!

Wow! Revival!

Millions saved!

Sounds amazing to me!

Let it be!

But I don't see it --- except for low scale turning to God in the midst of judgements, such as occured in New Orleans.

For God would love to send revival!

But is it really all up to Him?

Don't we have to do something?

Like repent of money-mad preachers and shisters without number; pschological teachers and movie-star preachers; rock-and-roll leaders under dim sensual lights wooping up the crowd as it girates to the music; coldness, unbelief, factions, pride, shall I go on. We must repent and turn to Him. We are that Lodicean generation that will be spewed unless we repent. If and when we repent, that will be revival. And that would be wonderful!

God, I repent!

lifeinhim61

Sep 30 2005, 07:12 PM

Amen Shekel. I second that... I repent!

Marta

Sep 30 2005, 08:13 PM

QUOTE(lifeinhim61 @ Sep 30 2005, 06:12 PM)

Amen Shekel. I second that... I repent!
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AMEN!

I know what my spirit tells me ever since reading these posts on Kim......don't put all your eggs in one basket. As the saying goes on here....'WE MUST TEST ALL THINGS!'

jhamner

Sep 30 2005, 08:24 PM

I repent as well for all my sins. I recently wrote them all out, all my issues, and repented of them all (except I must confess of smoking... I can't lick that for the life of me right now...!!!). I did this under the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Time will prove of disprove Kim.

He certainly is not vague. We will know if he is of God or if he isn't. His prophecy about New Orleans was so dead on, I can't dismiss him completely.

It is the best of times and the worst of times.

lovingHIM

Sep 30 2005, 08:28 PM

I must say I just came from reading thru his documented prophesies on his site. I can't say that I see him being too on on alot of them. I would never say that he doesn't hear from God but in my humble opinion his record looks to be more wrong than right.

lifeinhim61

Sep 30 2005, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(jhamner @ Sep 30 2005, 09:24 PM)

I repent as well for all my sins. I recently wrote them all out, all my issues, and repented of them all (except I must confess of smoking... I can't lick that for the life of me right now...!!!). I did this under the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Time will prove of disprove Kim.

He certainly is not vague. We will know if he is of God or if he isn't. His prophecy about New Orleans was so dead on, I can't dismiss him completely.

It is the best of times and the worst of times.
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I am praying for you jhamner, that the Lord gives you strength to conquer over your smoking habit. You can do it with His help! AMEN!

Miki

Oct 1 2005, 07:08 AM

Hey Shekel

I'm listening....

I never thought about it from the angle of peace peace coming from the prophets. (But about Israel and the road map) I guess it could be the peace and prosperity doctrine too?!

Of course he hasn't said exactly that. He has forcasted the troubles but said he doesn't like to focus on the trouble but the outcome of properly responding to it. He sees the bright side...

Oh my.....

But l hear you.

There was a time when l was really anxious to hear what he would say but it would always be on his new CD. Or you had to me a Knight to get the message. Seems so utterly laughable....It's not like that now. You can mostly get the word on his site.

When l went to see him in Washington l thought the place would be packed but the house wasn't even full. One women kept singing her own song from the back and l thought it was kind of distracting. I'm not into clucking, barking or rolling on the floor. I kept hoping none of that would happen

lol.

Poor Kim...

If you stop buy some time Kim...Well, l'm trying on your behalf but l have to look at the facts too. And the day you smashed the glass of water onto the floor about 5 or so years ago l saw something much different than you said. Maybe you were afraid to say it. I would have been. For the Lord is frightful sometimes too.
Things changed after that. Maybe because you didn't say what even little old me saw....Maybe that's why...But like Shekel l hope your right.

Shekel...he said the revival would begin at the end of October, not by the end. I know for some of you this is a given...and l'm not trying to divide just look at all the pieces. Some fit some don't...I've been wrong before so l'm way more careful. Seems like l'm never really sold out to anybody but the Lord.

Shekel

Oct 1 2005, 11:43 AM

QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 1 2005, 08:08 AM)

Hey Shekel

I'm listening....

I never thought about it from the angle of peace peace coming from the prophets. (But about Israel and the road map) I guess it could be the peace and prosperity doctrine too?!

Of course he hasn't said exactly that. He has forcasted the troubles but said he doesn't like to focus on the trouble but the outcome of properly responding to it. He sees the bright side...

Oh my.....

But l hear you.

There was a time when l was really anxious to hear what he would say but it would always be on his new CD. Or you had to me a Knight to get the message. Seems so utterly laughable....It's not like that now. You can mostly get the word on his site.

When l went to see him in Washington l thought the place would be packed but the house wasn't even full. One women kept singing her own song from the back and l thought it was kind of distracting. I'm not into clucking, barking or rolling on the floor. I kept hoping none of that would happen

lol.

Poor Kim...

If you stop buy some time Kim...Well, l'm trying on your behalf but l have to look at the facts too. And the day you smashed the glass of water onto the floor about 5 or so years ago l saw something much different than you said. Maybe you were afraid to say it. I would have been. For the Lord is frightful sometimes too.
Things changed after that. Maybe because you didn't say what even little old me saw....Maybe that's why...But like Shekel l hope your right.

Shekel...he said the revival would begin at the end of October, not by the end. I know for some of you this is a given...and l'm not trying to divide just look at all the pieces. Some fit some don't...I've been wrong before so l'm way more careful. Seems like l'm never really sold out to anybody but the Lord.
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I am really sincere that if what he says happens I will publically acknowledge I was hasty and sinned with my mouth (typing fingers). But what are we to expect. Another Toronto Vinyard or Brownsville Texas? Whatever one feels about these, one thing is for sure, what Kim is prophesing must far surpass those. After all, the very expectation of the prophecy will produce a lot of temporary religious excitement. The build up is all ready occuring, no doubt, in many churches that are expecting it. So I, too, expect that sort of thing. But what I am looking for is the real thing. Something that America as a whole will say, "This is God!"

And if that happens on the kind of large scale Kim says then I will publically retract my words and acknowledge I was wrong. But concerning the other things that he is already wrong about, such as the RCC, that is already history. I will not repent of the truth!

Shekel

Oct 1 2005, 11:45 AM

QUOTE(lifeinhim61 @ Sep 30 2005, 09:29 PM)

QUOTE(jhamner @ Sep 30 2005, 09:24 PM)

I repent as well for all my sins. I recently wrote them all out, all my issues, and repented of them all (except I must confess of smoking... I can't lick that for the life of me right now...!!!). I did this under the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Time will prove of disprove Kim.

He certainly is not vague. We will know if he is of God or if he isn't. His prophecy about New Orleans was so dead on, I can't dismiss him completely.

It is the best of times and the worst of times.
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I am praying for you jhamner, that the Lord gives you strength to conquer over your smoking habit. You can do it with His help! AMEN!
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Amen from me too!

Shekel

Oct 1 2005, 11:47 AM

QUOTE(lovingHIM @ Sep 30 2005, 09:28 PM)

I must say I just came from reading thru his documented prophesies on his site. I can't say that I see him being too on on alot of them. I would never say that he doesn't hear from God but in my humble opinion his record looks to be more wrong than right.
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The problem is, that it seems he removes the wrong ones and keeps the right ones there! That's a good way of increasing your bating average!

As I said, I could not find the post about "by the end of the summer," and at the top is this notice about some posts removed for security reasons.

Sounds a little fishy!

jhamner

Oct 1 2005, 03:49 PM

sure does.

lovingHIM

Oct 2 2005, 03:23 PM

I found this posted on another site and it made me think of this discussion. I thought I would paste it here for you all to read.

WARNINGS TO TAKE HEED"

Oct. 1, 2005
But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.' Ezekiel 33:6

They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Isaiah 30:10

"Be aware that I am a God who looks out for the needy and for those who have nothing. I have stockpiles of food and supplies for those who have need of them. In times of crisis I am there to swiftly come to the aid. But I tell you that there are even greater crisis’s and events that are coming upon the horizon. For I have told some that Russia and China will invade this United States. Will you be ready for the onslaught? Will there be a preparedness in your government for this action? I tell you that there will be places of refuge set aside for that time. Woe to those prophets and apostles who speak of brighter days ahead. Woe to those who say that all will be well. For many of them are well-known among you. They have buried their heads in the sand. But to those who speak my truth, you will warn the people and some will take heed. "

Stephen Hanson

Shekel

Oct 7 2005, 12:04 PM

QUOTE(lovingHIM @ Oct 2 2005, 04:23 PM)

I found this posted on another site and it made me think of this discussion. I thought I would paste it here for you all to read.

WARNINGS TO TAKE HEED"

Oct. 1, 2005
But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.' Ezekiel 33:6

They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Isaiah 30:10

"Be aware that I am a God who looks out for the needy and for those who have nothing. I have stockpiles of food and supplies for those who have need of them. In times of crisis I am there to swiftly come to the aid. But I tell you that there are even greater crisis’s and events that are coming upon the horizon. For I have told some that Russia and China will invade this United States. Will you be ready for the onslaught? Will there be a preparedness in your government for this action? I tell you that there will be places of refuge set aside for that time. Woe to those prophets and apostles who speak of brighter days ahead. Woe to those who say that all will be well. For many of them are well-known among you. They have buried their heads in the sand. But to those who speak my truth, you will warn the people and some will take heed. "

Stephen Hanson
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Thanks for the post.

He may not be positive, but at least he is in good company with the rest of the biblical prophets!

chrio39

Oct 8 2005, 10:51 PM

QUOTE(Shekel @ Oct 7 2005, 12:04 PM)

QUOTE(lovingHIM @ Oct 2 2005, 04:23 PM)

I found this posted on another site and it made me think of this discussion. I thought I would paste it here for you all to read.

WARNINGS TO TAKE HEED"

Oct. 1, 2005
But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood.' Ezekiel 33:6

They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions. Isaiah 30:10

"Be aware that I am a God who looks out for the needy and for those who have nothing. I have stockpiles of food and supplies for those who have need of them. In times of crisis I am there to swiftly come to the aid. But I tell you that there are even greater crisis’s and events that are coming upon the horizon. For I have told some that Russia and China will invade this United States. Will you be ready for the onslaught? Will there be a preparedness in your government for this action? I tell you that there will be places of refuge set aside for that time. Woe to those prophets and apostles who speak of brighter days ahead. Woe to those who say that all will be well. For many of them are well-known among you. They have buried their heads in the sand. But to those who speak my truth, you will warn the people and some will take heed. "

Stephen Hanson
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Thanks for the post.

He may not be positive, but at least he is in good company with the rest of the biblical prophets!
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I must say that unfortunately this is what I see also. I've had dreams of invasion, w/ the Gov't being innefective but God was leading those people that had prepared in advance. Seems to me that denial prevents preparedness, especially Amongst God's own.

bullsie

Oct 9 2005, 01:15 AM

QUOTE(Miki @ Sep 29 2005, 07:05 AM)

I'm not set in stone on these issues.

I saw Kim on TV last night. I don't have a transcript and don't want to get it wrong but basically he said that at the end of October this country will see it's greatest revival yet. Christians would have favor.

He said it would be a quick work...as opposed to taking years, it would come suddenly....He said it wouldn't just be in pockets but would cover the land. (He didn't use those exact words).

He said a lot last night. He said prophets would be more direct and that the parable in prophecy would take the back seat so to speak...

He said this country would no longer be dependent on our source of energy but there would be something new.

As l said in another post that l've come to believe the yea sayers and ney sayers are both correct. We just need to blend what we receive.

My question is....

If what Kim says is true about a coming revival at the end of Oct. then something has to cause it.........................................

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bullsie

Oct 9 2005, 02:01 AM

HI WHO EVER YOU ARE I AM NEW TO THIS. I AM A CHRISTIAN. I HAVE NEVER SPOKE TO ANYONE ON THE INTERNET EXCEPT FAMILY , THROUGH E-MAIL. SO FORGIVE ME IF I AM DOING THIS WRONG. I HAVE BEEN DOING MY OWN RESEACH ON KIM . I STUMBLED UPON THIS SITE. I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING. WELL I WATCHED KIM ON TBN THE OTHERNIGHT. I HOPE WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS TRUE. ONLY TIME WILL TELL. WHAT I AM MORE CONCERNED WITH IS PAULA WHITE, WHO I RESPECT ALOT. SHE WAS ALSO GIVING WORDS FROM THE LORD. IF KIM'S DON'T COME TO PASS WILL THIS TARNISH PAULA WHITE REPUTAION. I FEEL SHE HAS GREAT DISERMENT AND WOULD NOT SAY OR HOST A SHOW WITH KIM IF SHE FELT HE WAS NOT REAL. I BELIEVE THROUGH THIS JUDGMENT OF AMERICA GOD WILL BRING US TO TRUE REPENTANCE. ORAL ROBERTS WHO IS 80 SOME YEARS OLD ALSO HAD A VISON . HE NAMED THE VISON THE WAKE UP CALL. SOMTHING ABOUT BEING HUNG OVER NEW YORK CITY.HE SAID GOD WOULD STOP IT BUT IT WOULD DISPERSE AND SPREAD OVER THE WHOLE US AND I THINK HE SAID OTHER NATIONS TOO. HE SAID EVEYONE WOULD SEE THIS BUT SOME WOULD SEE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I BELIEVE IT COULD BE SHOWING EACH INDIVIDUAL THEIR OWN STANDING OR SINS SOMTHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A SUPERNATUAL THING OR IF IT IS A HUMAN THING OR SOMTHING. HE SAID HE FEELS HE IS STILL ALIVE FOR A REASON. HIS WIFE HAS GONE HOME TO BE WITH THE LORD THIS YEAR. THIS PHOPHECY HE SPOKE IN 2004 . ON THE KENNTH COPELAND PROGRAM.WE ARE SO IN THE LAST OF THE LAST DAYS. YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORLD NEWS THE LOCAL NEWS IT IS SICKING. I DO BELIEVE GOD IS SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. WHEN CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED BY THERE PARENTS. WHEN THERE IS ONE CRAZY STORY AFTER ANOTHER. IF WE COULD CRY WHEN WE HERE THE STORIES HOW MUCH MORE COULD GOD. WELL THAT 'S ALL FOR NOW . I HAVE TO GO TO BED. YES YOU GUESSED IT I AM A NITE OWL. IT IS MY ONLY TIME ALONE. TO THE PERSON WHO IS HAVING A HARD TIME QUITTING SMOKING. SO AM I DON'T FEEL ALONE. ONE DAY WE WILL DO IT. BYE FOR NOW

QUOTE(bullsie @ Oct 9 2005, 01:15 AM)

QUOTE(Miki @ Sep 29 2005, 07:05 AM)

I'm not set in stone on these issues.

I saw Kim on TV last night. I don't have a transcript and don't want to get it wrong but basically he said that at the end of October this country will see it's greatest revival yet. Christians would have favor.

He said it would be a quick work...as opposed to taking years, it would come suddenly....He said it wouldn't just be in pockets but would cover the land. (He didn't use those exact words).

He said a lot last night. He said prophets would be more direct and that the parable in prophecy would take the back seat so to speak...

He said this country would no longer be dependent on our source of energy but there would be something new.

As l said in another post that l've come to believe the yea sayers and ney sayers are both correct. We just need to blend what we receive.

My question is....

If what Kim says is true about a coming revival at the end of Oct. then something has to cause it.........................................

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grumbletiger

Oct 9 2005, 06:03 AM

"I repent as well for all my sins. I recently wrote them all out, all my issues, and repented of them all (except I must confess of smoking... I can't lick that for the life of me right now...!!!). I did this under the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Time will prove of disprove Kim.

He certainly is not vague. We will know if he is of God or if he isn't. His prophecy about New Orleans was so dead on, I can't dismiss him completely.

It is the best of times and the worst of times."

jhammer im in the same boat, kicked all my demons except smoking... maybe we can join spiritual forces? haha love you all, and let me know if something makes the quit easier jhammer. (ill do the same, k?) God Bless all. We gotta remember also that the bible warns us of false prophets and what Kim is saying about the catholic church lines up with some of the warnings we were given about them.

blindzebra

Oct 9 2005, 07:10 AM

dear grumbletiger,
and i am in that very same smoking boat with you!!!
but i hate it too!

i understand.

love,
bz

kim48

Oct 9 2005, 07:14 AM

Me too!!
I have a question about Kim? If anyone has a T.V. guide let me know when Kim will be on please let me know. I have never heard of this person except on this forum.
Kim

Miki

Oct 9 2005, 07:51 AM

We're going to judged according to our works.

Don't worry about Paula White...

I saw that show. Who can find fault in her but the Lord.

I pray for all of us that are straining to see and hear.

May God have mercy on us in the days ahead.

Kim..l won't disregard for now...Because as l have said before, there are two sides to the same coin. On one side judgement...on the other...mercy and grace.

Kim doesn't like to look at the other side it seems...me too sometimes.

(a mercy girl to a fault) (Thanks for shaking me Shekel)

But with New Oreleans he seems to be experiancing a taste of the other.

We're colored by our lifes experiance. It reflects in our ministry and our realtionships with other people. Kim's had his fill of religion as many of you have had also. Maybe he just slipped a little too far over to compensate for it??

I know you'll club me for thinking this way and you think he's a seasoned prophet that should be held accountable...God has his own way of bringing people around.

Do l think Kim is in league with the President and Joyner in some illumnti conspiracy to bring about the new world order? Very doubtful but sometimes their connection are worrisome...

Just trust God and be careful who and how you judge, because what goes around comes around.

Marta

Oct 9 2005, 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 9 2005, 06:51 AM)

We're going to judged according to our works.

Don't worry about Paula White...

I saw that show. Who can find fault in her but the Lord.

I pray for all of us that are straining to see and hear.

May God have mercy on us in the days ahead.

Kim..l won't disregard for now...Because as l have said before, there are two sides to the same coin. On one side judgement...on the other...mercy and grace.

Kim doesn't like to look at the other side it seems...me too sometimes.

(a mercy girl to a fault) (Thanks for shaking me Shekel)

But with New Oreleans he seems to be experiancing a taste of the other.

We're colored by our lifes experiance. It reflects in our ministry and our realtionships with other people. Kim's had his fill of religion as many of you have had also. Maybe he just slipped a little too far over to compensate for it??

I know you'll club me for thinking this way and you think he's a seasoned prophet that should be held accountable...God has his own way of bringing people around.

Do l think Kim is in league with the President and Joyner in some illumnti conspiracy to bring about the new world order? Very doubtful but sometimes their connection are worrisome...

Just trust God and be careful who and how you judge, because what goes around comes around.
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Hey Miki,

QUOTE

Do l think Kim is in league with the President and Joyner in some illumnti conspiracy to bring about the new world order? Very doubtful but sometimes their connection are worrisome...

What do you mean here? Care to divulge some info.

blindzebra

Oct 9 2005, 08:15 AM

yes, what marta asked...for i had never heard of "kim" before now....

is he? how is he connected to the president? i want to know.
what, and please speak plainly, do you mean?

thanks,
bz

Miki

Oct 9 2005, 08:46 AM

I can't believe you are asking this?

Marta after all you've proclaimed?

I have to go to Church but will tell you later....l can't believe this

blindzebra

Oct 9 2005, 08:48 AM

ok...so i looked...and so i found what he has prophesied:

this is pasted from his website, (the one where he sells his wares in the marketplace for a price)

QUOTE

January 30, 2005- Oklahoma City, OK

Gatekeeper of America
August, September and October are going to be very wonderful in terms of the economy. There’s going to be a huge breakthrough God has planned and set aside. And this is what the Lord said to me, “Because you have chosen the man that I wanted to be in the White House, and America had a choice, I will cause the next four years to be the greatest and to bring in the greatest harvest that the United States of America has ever seen in its centuries of history. In a four-year period there is going to be the greatest harvest. And I’m not talking about Asia. I’m not talking about Africa. I’m talking about this Nation! Schools, colleges, universities, the legal system, children, every one of them are going to be unbelievably revived. That is happening because there is a man in the Oval Office that God chose to watch over this nation. He is the watchman over the United States of America. I’ve raised up a watchman. I’ve raised up a doorkeeper, a housekeeper. I’ve raised up somebody that’s going to watch over, he’s called the Gatekeeper of America. This man that you put in the White House, whether some of you agree with him or not, shall pray and there will be four years of the greatest harvest that America has ever seen.”

Atheism Destroyed
Between August, September and October there is a window open for families in America for atheism to be destroyed and for legalism to be destroyed and for religion to be destroyed.

Life Span of Man
The age of man will be, the normal death age will be 100 years of age, Bob Hope being the example of this.

Twins
This will be a generation to bring forth more twins than any other because of the abortions that have taken place. God is putting double in the womb. So we have double trouble for the powers of hell!

Double Portion in 2005 The earth is Mine. In 2004 the enemy came in and illegally stole in a year that I had purposed for great breakthrough. Now because he did that to you, your families, your businesses, your homes, your finances, and your ministries, now I am in the position to pay you back with a double portion of what you were supposed to receive that year! So not only do you have double trouble but you have a double anointing, a double prosperity. You have a double power. You have double authority. You have a double of everything that was stolen from you, it’s yours this year and God says there is an abundance coming upon this house and upon this people. Rejoice as the prophet prophesies, it’s yours!

In the words of Kim Clement, our president has been labeled by God as the >"burning bush,"i> and we shall see this land prosper through God in him.

I say this to bring attention to the fact that we should join heaven in celebrating and place prayers of thanksgiving on the altar of God for not only what he has done but the things that He will do through this man. It is not just the man that I bring honor to, but the fact that God is in control and will use this man to make things good for our country.

For all the bad, and there is evil in our land, we still have a main core of people who do believe that God is still the God of our land and that He will make a way for us. I believe that the hope of the Lord is in America and though we allow a minor few to speak their heart against God, there is a multitude of people who daily give thanks unto God for His leadership in this land.

the gatekeeper......so he is saying the george w bush is the gate keeper.

well, i ask....THE GATES TO WHAT?

JESUS IS THE DOOR.
no one may enter unless it is through him. JESUS is the door and the keeper of the door.

i tell you this: Kim CLement is a false prophet. and is inspired by DEMONS.
were not PHAROAHS preists able to perform miracles? (some)

the GATES of the this NATION!!!
the GATEWAY TO SO-CALLED 'FREEDOM' will be UTTERLY DESTROYED.

NEW YORK IS CALLED THE "GATEWAY TO FREEDOM"
and it WILL BE DESTROYED!

THE GATES!! THEY WILL COME CRASHING DOWN!!

the GATEWAY TO FREEDOM
is NOT newyorkcity.
it IS NEW JERUSALEM.
and she comes DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN.

the STATUE will FALL! she is a FALSE GODDESS!
her 'flame' can give no "light to freedom"...
the FLAME OF LOVE and TRUTH and RIGHTEOUSNESS
is what GOD GIVES....and THAT IS TRUE FREEDOM!

NEW JERUSALEM is built, NOT upon the 'granite bedrock' of NEW YORK.
BUT THE BEDROCK OF THE REAL ROCK!! JESUS!
and i KNOW OF ONLY ONE ROCK!
and his SON is cut out of THAT MOUNTAIN!

kim prophesies peace and security and better economy and all goood things...
by means of that "gatekeeper".....

but THAT gatekeeper is about to unleash all sorts of hell upon this nation.....

he is about to uleash all sorts of WICKED things that he and his father have been planning now for YEARS.

NEW YORK WILL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED.
SHE IS THE SYMBOL OF BABYLON.
THE "GREAT CITY".

but she is THE ANTI-THESIS of the NEW JERUSALEM.

YOU SAW THE TOWERS FALL!

the WHOLE CITY IS NEXT!!

wernotalone

Oct 9 2005, 08:54 AM

BZ
couldn't help but laught out LOUD...

The Gates to What...hehe well I can think of a few choice words to fill that blank in...but I'm a wretched sinner too.

Jesus is the answer

Marta

Oct 9 2005, 08:59 AM

QUOTE(blindzebra @ Oct 9 2005, 07:15 AM)

yes, what marta asked...for i had never heard of "kim" before now....

is he? how is he connected to the president? i want to know.
what, and please speak plainly, do you mean?

thanks,
bz
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Well at first I thought it was a woman of course, then I go to the actual website. I get several red flags that go off. First of all from what my spirit tells me, that is my first HUGE FLAG and that is all I need. I didn't care to stay on there much longer.

He seems to be uh a little self absorbed; given everything that I saw and felt on there. Given this:

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For now I'm focusing on being a 'JESUS WARRIOR' instead of the..ahem..'presidential warrior'

blindzebra

Oct 9 2005, 09:03 AM

and every wild beast has his FALSE PROPHET!!

and even a "sprit of prediction" was what the woman had that brought her masters MUCH GAIN...MONEY!...in the Apostles time!
and when that "demon of divination" was cast out?
they were MAD! because they saw their "means of maintenance" MONEY, INCOME...was GONE!!

but so, then, she must have been accurate....to a degree!

THINK!

GOD"S KINGDOM IS NO PART OF THIS WORLD!!!
AND HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS WOULD BE
NO PART
of it EITHER!!

I WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO "CEASAR"!!
nor will i worship him like some "gatekeeper"!!

i WILL NOT FOLLOW GEORGE--THE BURNING BUSH!

FOR THIS NATION WILL BURN.

and A BUSH....THAT WANTS TO BE A
TREE...

SEE JUDGES 9:8-15~~~!!!!!

what is WRITTEN THERE IS FOR A PORTENT!
for you to KNOW that i am telling you the truth.

JESUS HIMSELF....RAN AWAY....
when they tried to make him KING!

because? he said: MY KINGDOM IS NO PART OF THIS WORLD.

and that is why the world HATED him.

TRUTH!
bz

blindzebra

Oct 9 2005, 09:11 AM

GOOD POST MARTA
and GOOD OBSERVATION!!

he glorifies HIMSELF and OTHER MERE MEN....

as if...

and then, there it is.....

the Pharisees and all wicked ones are lovers of MONEY.

and i PUKED when i see "the Voice of KIM CLEMENT!!"..

i see his voice to be that of of a DEMON.

and every SON is SO MUCH JUST LIKE THEIR FATHER!!

they can't help themselves!

they are liars and greedy and care not for the little ones...
and they are seeking status and great gain...

beware of the LEAVEN OF CAESAR!! JESUS SAID THIS!

so.....Ceasar is DEAD....

so WHO is CAESAR? toDAY?

BEWARE!! and BE FOREWARNED!

Marta

Oct 9 2005, 09:12 AM

QUOTE(blindzebra @ Oct 9 2005, 07:48 AM)

ok...so i looked...and so i found what he has prophesied:

this is pasted from his website, (the one where he sells his wares in the marketplace for a price)

QUOTE

January 30, 2005- Oklahoma City, OK

Gatekeeper of America
August, September and October are going to be very wonderful in terms of the economy. There’s going to be a huge breakthrough God has planned and set aside. And this is what the Lord said to me, “Because you have chosen the man that I wanted to be in the White House, and America had a choice, I will cause the next four years to be the greatest and to bring in the greatest harvest that the United States of America has ever seen in its centuries of history. In a four-year period there is going to be the greatest harvest. And I’m not talking about Asia. I’m not talking about Africa. I’m talking about this Nation! Schools, colleges, universities, the legal system, children, every one of them are going to be unbelievably revived. That is happening because there is a man in the Oval Office that God chose to watch over this nation. He is the watchman over the United States of America. I’ve raised up a watchman. I’ve raised up a doorkeeper, a housekeeper. I’ve raised up somebody that’s going to watch over, he’s called the Gatekeeper of America. This man that you put in the White House, whether some of you agree with him or not, shall pray and there will be four years of the greatest harvest that America has ever seen.”

Atheism Destroyed
Between August, September and October there is a window open for families in America for atheism to be destroyed and for legalism to be destroyed and for religion to be destroyed.

Life Span of Man
The age of man will be, the normal death age will be 100 years of age, Bob Hope being the example of this.

Twins
This will be a generation to bring forth more twins than any other because of the abortions that have taken place. God is putting double in the womb. So we have double trouble for the powers of hell!

Double Portion in 2005 The earth is Mine. In 2004 the enemy came in and illegally stole in a year that I had purposed for great breakthrough. Now because he did that to you, your families, your businesses, your homes, your finances, and your ministries, now I am in the position to pay you back with a double portion of what you were supposed to receive that year! So not only do you have double trouble but you have a double anointing, a double prosperity. You have a double power. You have double authority. You have a double of everything that was stolen from you, it’s yours this year and God says there is an abundance coming upon this house and upon this people. Rejoice as the prophet prophesies, it’s yours!

In the words of Kim Clement, our president has been labeled by God as the >"burning bush,"i> and we shall see this land prosper through God in him.

I say this to bring attention to the fact that we should join heaven in celebrating and place prayers of thanksgiving on the altar of God for not only what he has done but the things that He will do through this man. It is not just the man that I bring honor to, but the fact that God is in control and will use this man to make things good for our country.

For all the bad, and there is evil in our land, we still have a main core of people who do believe that God is still the God of our land and that He will make a way for us. I believe that the hope of the Lord is in America and though we allow a minor few to speak their heart against God, there is a multitude of people who daily give thanks unto God for His leadership in this land.

the gatekeeper......so he is saying the george w bush is the gate keeper.

well, i ask....THE GATES TO WHAT?

JESUS IS THE DOOR.
no one may enter unless it is through him. JESUS is the door and the keeper of the door.

i tell you this: Kim CLement is a false prophet. and is inspired by DEMONS.
were not PHAROAHS preists able to perform miracles? (some)

the GATES of the this NATION!!!
the GATEWAY TO SO-CALLED 'FREEDOM' will be UTTERLY DESTROYED.

NEW YORK IS CALLED THE "GATEWAY TO FREEDOM"
and it WILL BE DESTROYED!

THE GATES!! THEY WILL COME CRASHING DOWN!!

the GATEWAY TO FREEDOM
is NOT newyorkcity.
it IS NEW JERUSALEM.
and she comes DOWN OUT OF HEAVEN.

the STATUE will FALL! she is a FALSE GODDESS!
her 'flame' can give no "light to freedom"...
the FLAME OF LOVE and TRUTH and RIGHTEOUSNESS
is what GOD GIVES....and THAT IS TRUE FREEDOM!

NEW JERUSALEM is built, NOT upon the 'granite bedrock' of NEW YORK.
BUT THE BEDROCK OF THE REAL ROCK!! JESUS!
and i KNOW OF ONLY ONE ROCK!
and his SON is cut out of THAT MOUNTAIN!

kim prophesies peace and security and better economy and all goood things...
by means of that "gatekeeper".....

but THAT gatekeeper is about to unleash all sorts of hell upon this nation.....

he is about to uleash all sorts of WICKED things that he and his father have been planning now for YEARS.

NEW YORK WILL BE UTTERLY DESTROYED.
SHE IS THE SYMBOL OF BABYLON.
THE "GREAT CITY".

but she is THE ANTI-THESIS of the NEW JERUSALEM.

YOU SAW THE TOWERS FALL!

the WHOLE CITY IS NEXT!!
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Wow! I couldn't help but laugh out loud either. Hmmm, sounds like him and Bush are in love. Weird. Miki, never mind dear friend....I see this is why I stay away from the television network TBN. Well, I do watch SOME things on there but you really have to use good judgement.

Was this not a RED FLAG?

the Voice of KIM CLEMENT

Excellent BZ....false indeed!!!

I needed a barf bag myself the way he was glorifying himself and President Bush.

blindzebra

Oct 9 2005, 09:25 AM

kim propheses that this nation will 'prosper' with gwb
because of "God in him" (quoted from his writings)

ah, but in truth, there is a 'god', in him....and he sees himself a 'god',
just like ole george washington is seated upon the Rainbow THRONE IN HEAVEN in the captal dome paintied fresco in the CAPITAL of this nation!!i....have you seen it? he surroundes by all the 'other gods'
of commerce, science, agriculture, etc.... He is god above all gods!!!

(ok....wretching from my stomach now. ....gagging.)
the 'first shall be the last' -GEORGE.
and 'the last shall be the first' -GEORGE.

but they are NOT THE ALPHA AND OMEGA!!!

he is from his father the devil and he does the works of his father.
he is a liar, and a manslayer.
just as his father was, from the beginning.
and by his fruits...it is CLEARLY TO BE SEEN!

george w bush is the LAST president of the United States of America...
AS WE HAVE KNOWN 'HER'.

he will prove to be, indeed, the 'burning bush'.

and the GATES will fall.

mighty one

Oct 9 2005, 09:38 AM

Hi guys
I see you that you like Kim Clement, did you know he is from Uitenhage /port elizabeth South africa. His parents (mother) is still with us, I am from Word of Faith Christian Center Port Elizabeth Tell him he owes us a visit

mighty one

QUOTE(Marta @ Oct 9 2005, 03:59 PM)

QUOTE(blindzebra @ Oct 9 2005, 07:15 AM)

yes, what marta asked...for i had never heard of "kim" before now....

is he? how is he connected to the president? i want to know.
what, and please speak plainly, do you mean?

thanks,
bz
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Well at first I thought it was a woman of course, then I go to the actual website. I get several red flags that go off. First of all from what my spirit tells me, that is my first HUGE FLAG and that is all I need. I didn't care to stay on there much longer.

He seems to be uh a little self absorbed; given everything that I saw and felt on there. Given this:

user posted image

This:

KIM'S CD Message of the Month Subscription Click Here ($10 per month or $120 per year)

QUOTE

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Please!!!!!!!!!!!! C'mon now. He is just taking the money and running with it. If I find a picture of his house(s), cars, boats, yachts....then I'll be sure and post those too. I doubt I'll find it, perhaps when he appears on one of the Dateline shows like Benny Hinn then the evils will be revealed. People can get sucked into this stuff so easy. Don't let it happen to YOU.

For now I'm focusing on being a 'JESUS WARRIOR' instead of the..ahem..'presidential warrior'

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