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THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Just more confirmation that Obama is the Beast whose number is "666":

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol/569681714.html


Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist. The number of the Beast is 666.

Barack: 6 letters
Hussein: 7 letters
Obama: 5 letters
6+7+5=18=6+6+6
QED

Take all permutations of 5,6,7 (3! = 6):
567
576
657
675
756
765
Sum them (3996), divide by total number: 3996/6=666
QED

Barack Hussein Obama was born in 1961=1998-37=666x3-666/(6+6+6).


Revelations 13:18=(6+7) : (6+7+5): "If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."
QED

Conclusion: You tell me. This is not a drill.



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Charlie
QUOTE(THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Feb 13 2008, 02:51 AM) [snapback]149667[/snapback]

Just more confirmation that Obama is the Beast whose number is "666":

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol/569681714.html

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The beast is a kingdom. Obama could only be the horn or the false prophet. But then he is not speaking in God's name is he?

23 "Thus he said: 'The fourth beast shall be A fourth kingdom on earth, Which shall be different from all other kingdoms, And shall devour the whole earth, Trample it and break it in pieces.
24 The ten horns are ten kings Who shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall rise after them; He shall be different from the first ones, And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.
26 'But the court shall be seated, And they shall take away his dominion, To consume and destroy it forever.
27 Then the kingdom and dominion, And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.'
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(charlie @ Feb 13 2008, 06:07 AM) [snapback]149670[/snapback]




The beast is a kingdom. Obama could only be the horn or the false prophet. But then he is not speaking in God's name is he?

23 "Thus he said: 'The fourth beast shall be A fourth kingdom on earth, Which shall be different from all other kingdoms, And shall devour the whole earth, Trample it and break it in pieces.
24 The ten horns are ten kings Who shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall rise after them; He shall be different from the first ones, And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.
26 'But the court shall be seated, And they shall take away his dominion, To consume and destroy it forever.
27 Then the kingdom and dominion, And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.'


Hi, Charlie...

Well, let's not mince words here, but it is very clear in Revelation 13 that the 1st Beast from the sea, referring to he, him, his and who, is obviously speaking of a "personhood", not an it or that as would be the pronouns used to describe a kingdom or nation. And, I do understand that this is how theologians have traditionally interpreted this imagery. But, even In Rev. 13: 11-18 the 2nd Beast is referring to the 1st Beast as an "individual". We read quite clearly in verse 18 "calculate the number of the BEAST, for it is the number of a MAN: HIS number is 666." Now, the last time I checked the dictionary I could have sworn the definition of a MAN was NOT a KINGDOM.

So obviously we are talking about two different things that are both described as a “beast”. The BEAST in Daniel is in reference to a powerful KINGDOM; and the two BEASTS in Revelation are in reference to two powerful PERSONS. The 1st Beast is obviously a Great King with undaunted global authority, and appears to be an assemblage of Barack Hussein Obama’s collective multicultural heritage and his distinct attributes: he “is like a leopard”, symbolizing his swift and ferocious vengefulness (to come); “his feet were like the feet of a bear” symbolizing his methodical and calculative conduct to move in evil, ingenious craft and cruelty towards men (to come); and “his mouth like the mouth of a lion” which speaks with great command, oratory and the authority of his bold kingship (to come), and symbolizing the ethnic heritage of his father’s Kenya, Africa, embodied in Kenya’s national animal, the lion, as depicted on the Kenya National Coat of Arms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Kenya

And, the head, horns and crowns are his loyal allies, or his collaborative “Axis of Evil” (to come), which he will have total authority over.


Blessings...

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Miki
You're stretching the Scriptures to cover your works...

Divination is fools gold.
sojourner
QUOTE(THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Feb 13 2008, 05:51 AM) [snapback]149667[/snapback]

Just more confirmation that Obama is the Beast whose number is "666":

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol/569681714.html


Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist. The number of the Beast is 666.

Barack: 6 letters
Hussein: 7 letters
Obama: 5 letters
6+7+5=18=6+6+6
QED

Take all permutations of 5,6,7 (3! = 6):
567
576
657
675
756
765
Sum them (3996), divide by total number: 3996/6=666
QED

Barack Hussein Obama was born in 1961=1998-37=666x3-666/(6+6+6).


Revelations 13:18=(6+7) : (6+7+5): "If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."
QED

Conclusion: You tell me. This is not a drill.



-7



I wouldn't bank on this, but I sure wouldn't be surprized. Obama's formative years were spent in the Islamic faith. Islam possesses a belief called "shariah" which means that it is allowable to lie or misrepresent your faith for Islamic cause. Wouldn't it be the biggest irony since the crucifixion of Christ for Satan to accomplish putting a radical Muslim into the presidency of the United States where the most powerful arsenal on earth is located?

Obama certainly has attractive qualities. I find myself struggling against being drawn to him. He is so darned likeable. Even if 9-11 robbed me of trust for my Islamic brothers and sisters, I find myself thinking "maybe I'm wrong". And then I say "Satan, get thee behind me".


sojourner
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(sojourner @ Feb 13 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]149684[/snapback]




I wouldn't bank on this, but I sure wouldn't be surprized. Obama's formative years were spent in the Islamic faith. Islam possesses a belief called "shariah" which means that it is allowable to lie or misrepresent your faith for Islamic cause. Wouldn't it be the biggest irony since the crucifixion of Christ for Satan to accomplish putting a radical Muslim into the presidency of the United States where the most powerful arsenal on earth is located?

Obama certainly has attractive qualities. I find myself struggling against being drawn to him. He is so darned likeable. Even if 9-11 robbed me of trust for my Islamic brothers and sisters, I find myself thinking "maybe I'm wrong". And then I say "Satan, get thee behind me".


sojourner



Hi, Sojourner...

I highly commend you on your vigilant and alert mind, unlike the preceding poster who sorrowfully views God's blatant and clear command to “calculate the number of the beast” as divination and foolishness. My, such ghastly talk. What has happened to the minds of some Christians?

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george82
I don't believe Obama is the Antichrist, because the number 666 was associated with a lot of people, including Bush. There is a homepage that tells that Putin is the "beast", but these are just guesses, perhaps all are wrong. In fact the Bible tells that all who claim that Jesus was not resurrected in flesh, are antichrists. The book of Revelations only writes about a "beast", but no "Antichrist".
gregg
QUOTE(Miki @ Feb 13 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]149681[/snapback]

You're stretching the Scriptures to cover your works...

Divination is fools gold.


Yes, do not let your calculations be converted to divination.

You can turn your calculation into divination by converting the thought into visible characters. The use of the characters within a society pretty well defines the current.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(gregg @ Feb 13 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]149915[/snapback]

QUOTE(Miki @ Feb 13 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]149681[/snapback]

You're stretching the Scriptures to cover your works...

Divination is fools gold.


Yes, do not let your calculations be converted to divination.

You can turn your calculation into divination by converting the thought into visible characters. The use of the characters within a society pretty well defines the current.


Wow! Astonishing! So you have taken it solely upon yourself to brazenly change God’s very own WORDS in Revelation 13:18 from:

“Here is WISDOM. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast…”

To:

“Here is DIVINATION. Let him who has understanding NOT calculate the number of the beast…”

I never thought I would live to see this happen in all my days when Christians would actually corrupt God's WISDOM and attribute it to DIVINATION. I sure wouldn’t want to be you on Judgment Day.
gregg
QUOTE(THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Feb 13 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]149965[/snapback]

QUOTE(gregg @ Feb 13 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]149915[/snapback]

QUOTE(Miki @ Feb 13 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]149681[/snapback]

You're stretching the Scriptures to cover your works...

Divination is fools gold.


Yes, do not let your calculations be converted to divination.

You can turn your calculation into divination by converting the thought into visible characters. The use of the characters within a society pretty well defines the current.


Wow! Astonishing! So you have taken it solely upon yourself to brazenly change God’s very own WORDS in Revelation 13:18 from:

“Here is WISDOM. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast…”

To:

“Here is DIVINATION. Let him who has understanding NOT calculate the number of the beast…”

I never thought I would live to see this happen in all my days when Christians would actually corrupt God's WISDOM and attribute it to DIVINATION. I sure wouldn’t want to be you on Judgment Day.


No No Noo, I am disagreeing with you in that what God says is the true way; definitely. It takes WISDOM to realize the difference between what God has said and what man says.
If God is invisible, where is there visible proof that he exists? Is it in the movement of the trees in the wind?
I don't know what kind of Philosophical question that is, but it sounds like one. And there is no answer to it.
I made that up in my own mind just now. Isn't that how your mind operates to keep it searching and living? No answers to the questions it poses to itself, but forever struggling for the answer. That's the difference between the Creator and the created.
peacemaker
I cant help but laugh when I seen this, this idea of it. But I wouldnt put it apast saten to pull a fast one on us. Yep!
gregg
QUOTE(peacemaker @ Feb 13 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]149998[/snapback]

I cant help but laugh when I seen this, this idea of it. But I wouldnt put it apast saten to pull a fast one on us. Yep!


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good one!

tanktop4158
Brother....your numerology was ludicrous, and shows a naive understanding of Greek and Latin that John wrote in.

Look I am no Obama supporter, but to any student of end-times theology you will see that attempts to link Obama to the beast of Daniel breaks down quickly, some fits, some doesnt. All must fit if he truely was the man of lawlessness, and with our understanding now of Obama it doesnt.

The only criticism scripturaly that fits with Obama is he is a false christian teaching a false gospel.

Galatians 1
6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ

This scripture I use because Obama clearly teaches a new age gospel and Jesus, and perverting our scripture with a non-literal Jesus, as DR Dobson also has already pointed out.

EDITED: Sorry Seven if I wrongly accused you of being the one who actually did these calculations, but to list the post, It would seem, you seem to agree with these calculations. Although that assumption could be incorrect I will grant you, you could at least see most will think that?
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (tanktop4158 @ Sep 3 2008, 04:49 AM) *
Brother....your numerology was ludicrous, and shows a naive understanding of Greek and Latin that John wrote in.

Look I am no Obama supporter, but to any student of end-times theology you will see that attempts to link Obama to the beast of Daniel breaks down quickly, some fits, some doesnt. All must fit if he truely was the man of lawlessness, and with our understanding now of Obama it doesnt.

The only criticism scripturaly that fits with Obama is he is a false christian teaching a false gospel.

Galatians 1
6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ

This scripture I use because Obama clearly teaches a new age gospel and Jesus, and perverting our scripture with a non-literal Jesus, as DR Dobson also has already pointed out.


Silly, Tank, it’s not my numerology, so withhold any credit and criticism towards me; it is from a post on craigslist that has since been deleted. I merely posted it verbatim. I just thought it was fascinating considering the mountains of other Antichrist Obama-weirdness on the Internet.

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HumbleDon
I have a concern. In islam isn't it punishable by death to convert to Christianity? How come

we are not hearing from muslims to put to death a certain presidential candidate. I'm certainly

not convinced that he is the AC but things just don't add up. I have more Questions than answers.


I am but a humble servant praying for discernment.


Blessings to all...........Don
Stephen
Obama is not the little horn in Daniel's visions or the beast of Revelation. He does not fit the complete make up of the prophetic scriptures. The little horn will emerge in the Middle East with a "smaller" [this is why he is called a "little" horn] dominion at first. He is also called the "Assyrian" by the Bible prophets. Obama is not located in the Middle East and the USA is a very large dominion. The little horn will not emerge overtly until just after the Lord's coming judgment begins. He will not be identifiable until then.
AppyGroove
QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Feb 13 2008, 06:51 AM) *
Just more confirmation that Obama is the Beast whose number is "666":

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pol/569681714.html


Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist. The number of the Beast is 666.

Barack: 6 letters
Hussein: 7 letters
Obama: 5 letters
6+7+5=18=6+6+6
QED

Take all permutations of 5,6,7 (3! = 6):
567
576
657
675
756
765
Sum them (3996), divide by total number: 3996/6=666
QED

Barack Hussein Obama was born in 1961=1998-37=666x3-666/(6+6+6).


Revelations 13:18=(6+7) : (6+7+5): "If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."
QED

Conclusion: You tell me. This is not a drill.



-7


I understand this isn't your work...

on the numerology, a method I have seen more of..

6+7+5= 18 .... 18 = 1+8 = 9


As far as IDing the antichrist...

The jews didn't see Jesus coming despite all the scripture and prophesy, many Christians do not want to repeat the same mistake... (Jesus 2nd coming, rise of antichrist, etc.)...
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE (HumbleDon @ Sep 3 2008, 06:14 AM) *
I have a concern. In islam isn't it punishable by death to convert to Christianity? How come

we are not hearing from muslims to put to death a certain presidential candidate. I'm certainly

not convinced that he is the AC but things just don't add up. I have more Questions than answers.


I am but a humble servant praying for discernment.


Blessings to all...........Don






Don, that is a very good point.












diverteach
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y...DNiZWM4YTg0NTc=

Saturday, November 01, 2008

This may be a Jewish thing but... [Mark Steyn]

So e-mails a Democrat for McCain, who notes that the Obots are now memorializing their service to The One by getting numbers tattooed on their forearms. As our reader puts it:


No wisdom, no memory, no historical perspective.
God save us from these people.

Ignorance is O-bliss.

11/01 03:03 PM
1st john 5:11
Soujourner
QUOTE
I wouldn't bank on this, but I sure wouldn't be surprized. Obama's formative years were spent in the Islamic faith. Islam possesses a belief called "shariah" which means that it is allowable to lie or misrepresent your faith for Islamic cause. Wouldn't it be the biggest irony since the crucifixion of Christ for Satan to accomplish putting a radical Muslim into the presidency of the United States where the most powerful arsenal on earth is located?

Obama certainly has attractive qualities. I find myself struggling against being drawn to him. He is so darned likeable. Even if 9-11 robbed me of trust for my Islamic brothers and sisters, I find myself thinking "maybe I'm wrong". And then I say "Satan, get thee behind me".


I know you mean well but truth is truth Islamics are not our brothers and sister.
The only ones who will belong to God are those who accept Jesus and scripture is clear on this.
There is no other name other than Jesus.
It is not a popular stand to take in the world but we are not of the world.
Islam is not of God and if im wrong then please show me.
That does not mean that we don't tell them about Christ, however he who does not have the Son has condemed himself.

There are alot of good people who might not mean harm to you nor me who are of islamic faith but even them will not have everlasting life with Jesus Christ if they don't accept him. 1dsz5e4.gif



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