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THE SEVEN THUNDERS
CHECK THIS SITE OUT:http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-216obama.htm

Barack Obama's birthplace is Hawaii having the latitude 21.6... As an assumed term, it is 216, which happens to be 6 cubed, or more simply 6 X 6 X 6 = 216... in other words, associated with the triad "666", the "Mark fo the Beast", and this location "identifies" the birthplace entry into the world of Obama (Antichrist) in the midst of the Great Sea (Pacific, meaning "peace"), for Antichrist will be a "man of peace", the 1st Beast from the SEA.

Incidentally, Obama's original first name was spelled "Baracka", being Aramaic and meaning "blessed"... another attribute of a "messiah".

Note that 216, like 666, each reduce and sum to the singular digit "9". This is the number that Satanists say that Satan claims as his own. Now look at his birth date... it is August 4, 1961. We consider August to be the 8th calendar month, but that is in the Gregorian calendar... in the original Julian Roman calendar it is the 6th month... when one sums and reduces all the digits (6+4+1+9+6+1=27=2+7="9") the summed singular term becomes Satan's number "9".

Obama was called "Barry" when he was young, and his adopted father's surname was Soetoro. As a youngster his school registered name was Barry Hussein Soetore. When this is considered in the numerics his name "Barry Hussein Obama Soetore" equated in Gematria to "108", and also reduces to "9" (108=1+0+8=9)... the number of Satan, the number of "destruction" and the "end".

The 1st Beast from the Sea is to receive a mortal head wound. Will Obama be assassinated? Will he be resurrected as the empowered Satan incarnated Antichrist?

I found this on Yahoo Answers, regarding Obama as the potential "Antichrist", being the successor to Bush where their two names converge (ObaMABUSh) to form "Mabus", the name given by Nostradamus as the identity of the "Antichrist"...

Check it out:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...30125358AA1hRgT

Additionally, Saturday, something extremely odd happened... As I was viewing the news on the recent Primaries and Obama's latest victory sweep over Hillary... as Obama's face flashed on the screen in a series of various images where he was addressing the crowds, for a split second I thought my eyes were playing a trick on me, for before me Obama's face transformed into a hideous and grotesque demon-like visage, virtually satanic, and then quickly converted back to his normal face. I was so soberly struck by the phenomenon that it instantly brought me to my feet. I know I wasn't imagining it, nor was it a trick of light... it really startled me. I think God allowed me to see this hidden aspect to Obama in the "Spirit". Then, two days later, Monday morning, I found the above information on "Mabus".

Blessings...

-7
Anne
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK like "IRAQ" huh.gif
HUSSEIN line "Saddam Hussein" huh.gif
OBAMA like "Osama Bin Laden" huh.gif

3 times in one same name? 3 times the "NAME" !!! God is trying to show something!

BARACK = 36 and 1 + 2 + 3... + 36 = 666 (36 is the triangular root of 666)
HUSSEIN = 95
OBAMA = 32

36 + 95 + 32 = 163

Day 163 is 11.6 (2008 IS A LEAP YEAR) excl.gif

Obama candidate for 2008 ELECTIONS

11.6.... 11H6 (11 hours 6 minutes) = 666 MINUTES! (also an inverted "911") excl.gif

Iraq, Hussein, Osama Bin Laden.... 9/11!!!


Also 11.6 is day 162 on a normal year and 162 IS LINKED TO THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH! ohmy.gif

You said he was born on 4 August 1961??? well this is day 216 of the year or as you said, 6 x 6 x 6 days!!!

Also 108 is tied to the Rapture of the Church! excl.gif
kim48
A man coming out of no where and everyone is following him.
I am feeling about this obama guy.
Kim
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
1dsz5h3.gif Thanks, Anne, for your very astute insight. I will have to examine these details further.

Did you hear that yesterday Madame Tussaud’s Wax Museum in London revealed their wax figure of Barack Obama in the scene of the Oval Office of the White House at the museum, where he is standing behind the President's Desk? To his right are Bill and Hillary Clinton and to his left are John and Jackie Kennedy.

Don't you find this as EXTREMELY ODD?

Why weren't any of the other CANDIDATES done in wax? Obama is merely a "candidate" at this point; he hasn't been elected president yet. But he is ALREADY being portrayed AS the President. Why was President Bush and Laura removed? Bill and Hillary are present from the presidency “before” G.W and Laura. Why were'nt Bill and Hillary removed? Why wasn't a wax figure of McCain done? This is all symbolic, a message; isn't it? Someone in Europe knows something... the Bilderbergs? The Illuminati? The Club of Rome?

Today, Obama, Japan has decided to root for Barack Obama for U.S. President, virtually adopting him as their “native son”. The satanic spell continues to expand and entrance the unwitting with its deception.

PEOPLE WAKE UP, for the BEAST has arrived.

Blessings,

-7
LookToJesusNOW

Additionally, Saturday, something extremely odd happened... As I was viewing the news on the recent Primaries and Obama's latest victory sweep over Hillary... as Obama's face flashed on the screen in a series of various images where he was addressing the crowds, for a split second I thought my eyes were playing a trick on me, for before me Obama's face transformed into a hideous and grotesque demon-like visage, virtually satanic, and then quickly converted back to his normal face. I was so soberly struck by the phenomenon that it instantly brought me to my feet. I know I wasn't imagining it, nor was it a trick of light... it really startled me. I think God allowed me to see this hidden aspect to Obama in the "Spirit". Then, two days later, Monday morning, I found the above information on "Mabus".

Blessings...

-7
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Mabus is a false teaching by an apostate false prophet .
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(LookToJesusNOW @ Feb 12 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]149500[/snapback]




Mabus is a false teaching by an apostate false prophet .



Yes, I am fully aware how Biblical Literal-Literalists typically do not acknowledge Christ's parable of the fig tree outside their self-imposed constraining limitations of the Bible. They prefer to be the proverbial ostrich with its head buried in the sand, unbeknownst that the Dragon is about to crush and devour them. Why do you suppose the Martyr of Saints will be a fulfilled reality?

The "spirit of Antichrist" always tends to detract from the main message with diversions over miniscule facts that serve as a decoy to whisk the conversation down the path of oblivion and attempt to debunk and derail the PRIMARY MESSAGE, like throwing spoiled milk into the soup.

You are not telling me anything that I don't already know; I know all too well what the Biblical Literal-Literalists believe.

Be blessed and on your good journey.

-7
kim48
Just heard on the news that he is beating Hilary in one state tonight.
Kim
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Addditionally, regarding what you said about "Barack" = 36... The word "beast" is used 36 times in the Revelation, and the name of "Satan", 36 times in the NT. The word "fall" is used 36 times in the Bible. In the NRSV, the word "devil" is used 36 times, and the word "Satan", 36 times in the NT.

Blessings...

-7
hope
Seven Thunders...Haven't read a post from you in a long time. When I saw you post about Obama I was glad to see someone bringing some information about him. I don't know about the numbers but there is just SOMETHING about him that doesn't feel right. And oh boy...can he ever swoon us with his words. I don't want Clinton in the White House but this guy....he really scares me.

Can't really put my finger on it...sort of a "gut" feeling that he is all smiles and sweetness now but should he be elected I feel like he will open the doors of hell?

God Bless
Hope
2 Chronicles 32:7
Ha ha, you people are paranoid! "There's just something I don't like about him" Let me guess..Oh he's black... That may be it. Imagine a black man leading a white man's country, surreal. Oh his name is Obama... exorcise him!!! It sounds like Osama!!! Barack = Iraq!!! Oh wait!!! Hussein, that must mean something!!! Please people, you lack something! You are so paranoid about everything because the stupid government wants you to be scared, always raising the terror level and so on. The whole world laughs at that type of stuff. But be ignorant if you wish, be like Miss North Carolina and get your "Freedom Fries". Get asked where Hungary is and then answer if Europe is a country ( just like a famous country singer shown on national TV, again from N.C.). Such thinking is outdated and single minded. Just like before the 60's black people didn't have equal rights. But well, blessed be the people in America (myself included) so when election day comes we make the right choice based on facts (I'm not saying Obama is the right guy, you can be democrat or republican for all I care) not on superstitions. Only in America do we waste time on things like this...
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(2 Chronicles 32:7 @ Feb 13 2008, 01:53 AM) [snapback]149626[/snapback]

Ha ha, you people are paranoid! "There's just something I don't like about him" Let me guess..Oh he's black... That may be it. Imagine a black man leading a white man's country, surreal. Oh his name is Obama... exorcise him!!! It sounds like Osama!!! Barack = Iraq!!! Oh wait!!! Hussein, that must mean something!!! Please people, you lack something! You are so paranoid about everything because the stupid government wants you to be scared, always raising the terror level and so on. The whole world laughs at that type of stuff. But be ignorant if you wish, be like Miss North Carolina and get your "Freedom Fries". Get asked where Hungary is and then answer if Europe is a country ( just like a famous country singer shown on national TV, again from N.C.). Such thinking is outdated and single minded. Just like before the 60's black people didn't have equal rights. But well, blessed be the people in America (myself included) so when election day comes we make the right choice based on facts (I'm not saying Obama is the right guy, you can be democrat or republican for all I care) not on superstitions. Only in America do we waste time on things like this...


2C32:7 -

You pierce and mock Christ dwelling in His own; you have revealed your “spirit”, for what you have said to the least of His, you have said onto Him…

“Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced (MOCKED) Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him….” (Rev 1:7)

“‘ Behold, you DESPISERS, marvel and perish! For I work a work in your days,
a work which YOU WILL BY NO MEANS BELIEVE, though ONE WERE TO DECLARE IT TO YOU.’” (Acts 13:41 NKJV)

'BEHOLD, YOU SCOFFERS, AND MARVEL, AND PERISH;
FOR I AM ACCOMPLISHING A WORK IN YOUR DAYS,
A WORK WHICH YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE, THOUGH SOMEONE SHOULD DESCRIBE IT TO YOU.'" (Acts 13:41 NASB)

-7

THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(hope @ Feb 12 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]149591[/snapback]

Seven Thunders...Haven't read a post from you in a long time. When I saw you post about Obama I was glad to see someone bringing some information about him. I don't know about the numbers but there is just SOMETHING about him that doesn't feel right. And oh boy...can he ever swoon us with his words. I don't want Clinton in the White House but this guy....he really scares me.

Can't really put my finger on it...sort of a "gut" feeling that he is all smiles and sweetness now but should he be elected I feel like he will open the doors of hell?

God Bless
Hope


Hi, Hope...

I think that you sensed quite accurately in the Spirit that something is very much so skewed and afoot. I have been conversing with many others on other sites, and they all feel unanimously the same about Obama, saying that they can't quite put their finger on it, or what they sense is wrong, very wrong and very cunning. It has nothing to do with his skin color; even I was willing to shift my vote from my typical White Republican vote over to Obama because his charisma, oratory and vision are so appealing. But then the Lord stopped me dead in my tracks last Saturday as I explained, when Obama's face on TV morphed into a demon before my eyes, and subsequently I launched this 3 day investigation.

Blessings...

-7


Anne
[quote name='LookToJesusNOW' date='Feb 12 2008, 07:39 PM' post='149500']
Additionally, Saturday, something extremely odd happened... As I was viewing the news on the recent Primaries and Obama's latest victory sweep over Hillary... as Obama's face flashed on the screen in a series of various images where he was addressing the crowds, for a split second I thought my eyes were playing a trick on me, for before me Obama's face transformed into a hideous and grotesque demon-like visage, virtually satanic, and then quickly converted back to his normal face. I was so soberly struck by the phenomenon that it instantly brought me to my feet. I know I wasn't imagining it, nor was it a trick of light... it really startled me. I think God allowed me to see this hidden aspect to Obama in the "Spirit". Then, two days later, Monday morning, I found the above information on "Mabus".

Blessings...

-7
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Mabus is a false teaching by an apostate false prophet .
[/quote]


This phenomenon happens often when the person in question is deep into satanism. The Holy Spirit may be showing you his true nature. But remember, that POWER W A S G I V EN ONTO HIM; The Bible says that the Antichrist will not get the power by his own power. It's all in God's hands, even though it may be frustrating.

Thank God, we don't have to view the world with our eyes of flesh, but with eyes of the spirit; God will provide for us despite what the world is showing/telling because God is after all, the only one really in power!
And who can say they can trust our world now, at the speed it is now going to its fall?
Anne
day 162 is 11.6 and 11H6 MINUTES is the 666th minute of the day.

By the way, the election of the new pope was announced at 11:06 MY TIME (CENTRAL US!)

So you see!!! excl.gif ph34r.gif

"LE RAVISSEMENT" the Rapture =162

"LES ELUS RAVIS" The elected taken =162

"L' EGLISE DISPARUE" the disappearing Church =162

"LES NOCES DE L' AGNEAU" the wedding of the Lamb =162

"LES POISSONS" the FISHES =162

"CHAQUE POISSON" each fish =162

"L' ENLEVEMENT D' ELIE" Elijah's Rapture =162

"LE PLAN DE L' EPOUX" The plan of the bridegroom =162

"LE BUT DE L' EPOUX" the goal of the bridegroom =162

"LE PLAN DU CHRIST" the plan of Christ =162

"LE BUT DU CHRIST" the goal of Christ =162

"L' ESPRIT-SAINT" The Holy Spirit =162

"L' EPOUX CELESTE" the celestial bridegroom =162

"L' ASSEMBLEE CELESTE" the celestial assembly =162

"L' EPOUSE CELESTE" the celestial bride =162

"L' EGLISE, L' EPOUSE" the Church, the bride =162

"L' EGLISE, L' ASSEMBLEE" the Church, the Assembly =162

"L'ASSEMBLEE DU PERE" the Assembly of the Father = 162

"LES ELUS DU PERE" the elected of the Father =162

"L' EGLISE REVEILLEE" the awaken Church =162

Also the code 162 is part of another Rapture code, when you add it to another code!
ONE RAPTURE CODE + ANOTHER RAPTURE CODE = ANOTHER RAPTURE CODE YET!

Here are some other codes "IN 389" that confirm the parable/prophecy of the 5 wise and 5 foolish virgins. God tell us they are foolish; not me! excl.gif

> > "L' ENLEVEMENT DE LA CHRETIENTE FIDELE A L' ETERNEL" the Rapture of the Christendom true to God=389
> >
> >
> > "LE PETIT RESTE FIDELE A L' ETERNEL DIEU ENLEVE" the small remnant taken who is true to the Eternal God =389
> >
> > "LE PETIT RESTE FIDELE REPRIS PAR JESUS" the small true remnant taken by Jesus =389
> >
> > "LE PETIT RESTE ELU POUR L' ENLEVEMENT" the small rest elected for the Rapture =389
> >
> > "LE PETIT RESTE DE L' ASSEMBLEE DE JESUS RAVI" The small rest of the Assembly of Jesus, taken =389
> >
> > "LE PETIT RESTE DU SEIGNEUR ESTIME FIDELE" the small rest deemed true of the LORD =389
> >
> > "LE RAVISSEMENT DU FAIBLE RESTE DE L' ETERNEL" The Rapture of the small rest/remnant of the Eternal =389
> >
> >
> > "LA FOI ET LA FIDELITE DE L' EGLISE DE JESUS-CHRIST" the faith and fidelity of the Church of Jesus Christ =389
> >
> >
> > "L' EPOUX VIENT CHERCHER UNE EGLISE HUMBLE" The bridegroom comes for a humble Church =389
> >
> >
> > "LE RAVISSEMENT DE L' EGLISE SANS TÂCHE NI RIDE" the rapture of the Church without spot or wrinkle =389
> >
> >
> > "DIEU N' ENLEVERA QUE LES CROYANTS FIDELES" God will only rapture the true believers =389
gregg
QUOTE(Anne @ Feb 12 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]149271[/snapback]

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

BARACK like "IRAQ" huh.gif
HUSSEIN line "Saddam Hussein" huh.gif
OBAMA like "Osama Bin Laden" huh.gif

3 times in one same name? 3 times the "NAME" !!! God is trying to show something!

BARACK = 36 and 1 + 2 + 3... + 36 = 666 (36 is the triangular root of 666)
HUSSEIN = 95
OBAMA = 32

36 + 95 + 32 = 163

Day 163 is 11.6 (2008 IS A LEAP YEAR) excl.gif

Obama candidate for 2008 ELECTIONS

11.6.... 11H6 (11 hours 6 minutes) = 666 MINUTES! (also an inverted "911") excl.gif

Iraq, Hussein, Osama Bin Laden.... 9/11!!!


Also 11.6 is day 162 on a normal year and 162 IS LINKED TO THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH! ohmy.gif

You said he was born on 4 August 1961??? well this is day 216 of the year or as you said, 6 x 6 x 6 days!!!

Also 108 is tied to the Rapture of the Church! excl.gif


Oh NO! RUN! Run!

Wait, wait; stop, Whereto?
Can we run ahead to 1-1-09?
Use some Gematria on the name Hillary Rodham Blythe.

H I L L A R Y R O D H A M B L Y T H E
8 9 3 3 1 9 7 9 6 4 8 1 4 2 3 7 2 8 5
40 32 29 = 101
4 5 11(2) = 20(11)

I am not up-to-date with any interpretation of this and my figures may be off somewhere.

It's pretty interesting, though.
Anne
[/quote]

Oh NO! RUN! Run!

Wait, wait; stop, Whereto?
Can we run ahead to 1-1-09?
Use some Gematria on the name Hillary Rodham Blythe.
[/quote]


You see? You just found ANOTHER ONE!!! 1-1-09! very good! You see how the codes are coming, how they keep popping? We are not making anything up!

This was pre ordrained since the foundations of the world! excl.gif ph34r.gif

ALSO 1,109 is tied to the Rapture! excl.gif excl.gif
1dsz5h3.gif 1dsz5h3.gif

Whereto? to God! Just hope and pray and ask for his forgiveness constantly, and WATCH, and BELIEVE!
It works by faith!

All these codes that keep popping in an accelerating rate tell us something!
I am just thinking of the RUNNING NUMBERS IN THE MOVIE "THE MATRIX"!!!

This is a divine Matrix! wub.gif
Hillary Rhodam Blythe = 216 or 6 x 6 x 6...
Yes, they keep popping...

All I can do (at least on my side is to take notice) and be ready. sleep.gif
Anne
Read my book ("Bible and Numbers", now available on Tate Publishing - online)
The codes are here!

I just found another one! All tied to the Rapture. You CAN'T EXCAPE THEM! They are just here and only a divine intelligence could have programmed them!

I tell you this is serious! excl.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Oh, boy I will have to add that one on the French version of my book! huh.gif

I found another one yesterday. They keep popping. excl.gif


A friend of mine (he is good into finding codes! cool.gif ) just found these ones:

"LES CINQ VIERGES SAGES DE L' ETERNEL RAVIES" the five wise virgins of the Eternal, raptured =389

"LES CINQ VIERGES ATTENDENT LEUR MAÎTRE" the five virgins wait for their master =389

"LES VIERGES SAGES AMENEES VERS L' ETERNEL" the five wise virgins brought to the Eternal =389

"LES VIERGES SAGES EMMENEES VERS JESUS" The wise virgins brought to Jesus=389

"L' ATTENTE DE L' ENLEVEMENT DES CINQ VIERGES" The waiting of the Rapture of the five virgins =389

"LES VIERGES SAGES RAVIES PAR LE CREATEUR" the wise virgins raptured by the Creator =389

"LES CINQ VIERGES SAGES DANS LE CIEL AVEC LE ROI" the five wise virgins in Heaven with the King =389

"LES CINQ VIERGES INVITEES A SE PREPARER" the five virgins invited to be ready =389
gregg
It is The Matrix. There is a collosal formation taking place in the heavens very slowly, I think. There has been detected a very large wave of Hydrogen gas headed in our direction from the neighboring galaxy. There have been observed planet-sized material ejecting from our neighbor, but this stuff is far off in the scheme of things.
The hapenings around us point to something occuring inside the psyche of man.

All of the above codes are very helpful.
Anne
QUOTE(gregg @ Feb 13 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]149909[/snapback]

It is The Matrix. There is a collosal formation taking place in the heavens very slowly, I think. There has been detected a very large wave of Hydrogen gas headed in our direction from the neighboring galaxy. There have been observed planet-sized material ejecting from our neighbor, but this stuff is far off in the scheme of things.
The hapenings around us point to something occuring inside the psyche of man.

All of the above codes are very helpful.


Gregg, do you have any picture/links related to this? huh.gif ohmy.gif

and yes, all numbers/codes which codes are also "pieces of information" are tied together! because the One who ties them together "upholds everything by the Word of His power! He is the one who suspended the earth above nothing and who stretched the Heavens like a tent!

wub.gif wub.gif
gregg
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80204094455.htm

This one is more interesting!
hope
QUOTE(2 Chronicles 32:7 @ Feb 13 2008, 02:53 AM) [snapback]149626[/snapback]

Ha ha, you people are paranoid! "There's just something I don't like about him" Let me guess..Oh he's black... That may be it. Imagine a black man leading a white man's country, surreal. Oh his name is Obama... exorcise him!!! It sounds like Osama!!! Barack = Iraq!!! Oh wait!!! Hussein, that must mean something!!! Please people, you lack something! You are so paranoid about everything because the stupid government wants you to be scared, always raising the terror level and so on. The whole world laughs at that type of stuff. But be ignorant if you wish, be like Miss North Carolina and get your "Freedom Fries". Get asked where Hungary is and then answer if Europe is a country ( just like a famous country singer shown on national TV, again from N.C.). Such thinking is outdated and single minded. Just like before the 60's black people didn't have equal rights. But well, blessed be the people in America (myself included) so when election day comes we make the right choice based on facts (I'm not saying Obama is the right guy, you can be democrat or republican for all I care) not on superstitions. Only in America do we waste time on things like this...


Chronicles....please, please, please...it has nothing to do with his color. Why do people always think that if a person is black...others don't like him. I would vote for him if I thought he would make a good president. I am very, very ready for a person of color to lead this country if they are up to it. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS COLOR.

I don't know what it is Chronicles, but something tells me he will make our country so vounerable that we will be leveled to dust or melted from the inside. I have strong feelings about how we need to behave in reference to defence of our beautiful America. One thing...his middle name...that bothers me. So rant on if you wish but you have no idea what I really mean. I wish him well and hope I'm wrong.
Hope
gregg
QUOTE(hope @ Feb 13 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]149989[/snapback]

QUOTE(2 Chronicles 32:7 @ Feb 13 2008, 02:53 AM) [snapback]149626[/snapback]

Ha ha, you people are paranoid! "There's just something I don't like about him" Let me guess..Oh he's black... That may be it. Imagine a black man leading a white man's country, surreal. Oh his name is Obama... exorcise him!!! It sounds like Osama!!! Barack = Iraq!!! Oh wait!!! Hussein, that must mean something!!! Please people, you lack something! You are so paranoid about everything because the stupid government wants you to be scared, always raising the terror level and so on. The whole world laughs at that type of stuff. But be ignorant if you wish, be like Miss North Carolina and get your "Freedom Fries". Get asked where Hungary is and then answer if Europe is a country ( just like a famous country singer shown on national TV, again from N.C.). Such thinking is outdated and single minded. Just like before the 60's black people didn't have equal rights. But well, blessed be the people in America (myself included) so when election day comes we make the right choice based on facts (I'm not saying Obama is the right guy, you can be democrat or republican for all I care) not on superstitions. Only in America do we waste time on things like this...


Chronicles....please, please, please...it has nothing to do with his color. Why do people always think that if a person is black...others don't like him. I would vote for him if I thought he would make a good president. I am very, very ready for a person of color to lead this country if they are up to it. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS COLOR.

I don't know what it is Chronicles, but something tells me he will make our country so vounerable that we will be leveled to dust or melted from the inside. I have strong feelings about how we need to behave in reference to defence of our beautiful America. One thing...his middle name...that bothers me. So rant on if you wish but you have no idea what I really mean. I wish him well and hope I'm wrong.
Hope


HOPE, don't be wrong!
I've counted on you for so long!
Through morning sunshine and the cloudless days . . .
2 Chronicles 32:7
We all have a right to choose a candidate. We all have a right to express our opinions. What we don't have a right to, is to question somebody's faith, specially by quoting scripture.

7 Thunders: Who are you to associate me with a mocker, or even the "ones who pierced him". We've all sinned so in a way we've all have pierced him. Now I'm not saying that your research is not valid, you've invested time and effort on it, as well as everyone who has taken their time to respond. But you cannot satanize any one just cause u had a vision. You know, a lot of people have seen the Virgin Mary appear, or such things, and as a Christian I don't believe they come from God, since I only believe in Christ and God. But if you are a Catholic (just for the sake of my argument, not saying you might be) then I can't question that either right. Cause we all believe in some different ideologies, the important thing will be that we at least come up to believe in Christ, yet by some minor differences some will be deceived. But let me say that just like you think Obama might be the beast, I've thought in the past that Bush was a terrible man, killing lots of innocent people in countries we haven't even been to. Or how our government has thrown an A-Bomb and surely killed guilty people, but tons of innocent in the way. Slavery of the africans, slaughter of the indians, hate, racism, corporations enriching from poor people in other countries, unjustified wars, GREED, child abortion, MASONRY AND THE OCCULT ORIGINS OF THIS COUNTRY (and there's tons of info and visible evidence literally in our streets, DC for example), REMOVING GOD from our Courthouses, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE? And yet You have your right to defend America for its good things. Yes I'm probably known for pointing at "the bad things" in America, cause I believe no other country has more Power and Military bases around the world to be the Controlling Big Brother to come. Yes we can argue about this and crazy and paranoid conspiratorial agendas. Yet I can't ever ever QUESTION YOUR FAITH.

I think Hope had a much better way of expressing her opinion, may this help to clear any doubt or harsh feelings between us. God bless you all.
crownsevenalphabet
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Some of the orthodox sources are viewing Senator Barack Obama's selection of a Lincoln archetype campaign, as a warning.

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent; Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:17am ET
SPRINGFIELD, Illinois (Reuters) - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama opens his 2008 White House run on Saturday in a setting rife with symbolism and historic links to Abraham Lincoln's fight to end slavery.

This Obama report created a research idea, for me to review Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address. Lincoln presented this 701 [ seven hundred one ] word speech,
March 4, 1865. Which was a little over a month from the murder date of, April 14, 1865. This 701 numerical code is explained later in this article. [ see copy of this address speech at the end of this article ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln's...augural_address

Summary:

What if a "back of the head" gun shot code: 29[twenty-nine], involves a 16th President, whose 701 words are surfacing as monuments, for April 2008 ? Does the upcoming 143rd anniversary murder date of Lincoln, mean anything to prevent future assassinations ? This article was designed to spark more research by the public, into decoding the events surrounding Lincoln's murder.
Miki
This form of "decoding" is divination.

It's Fools Gold.

Don't stretch scripture to cover your works in search of hidden knowledge.
Stephen
Attempting to pin the tail on the "antichrist" is futile. Many have and do this. Those who have are always wrong. The scriptures give clues, but the actual evidence will not be revealed until the time frame of the 70th week begins in the future. The scriptures do provide his location and some of his actions ..... but very little of anything else.
Anne
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I don't like the above site because its speaks of Karma mad.gif and astrology. The stars were not made to forecast our future, but to outline God's redemption. excl.gif

When they say that either President bush will be elected and either not, by interpreting the stars, I can do the same without interpreting the stars! Everytime it's "either..., or..."!
And sometimes God will allow circumstances to LINE UP with what astrology says,:

2 Thessalonians 2 :9-11 excl.gif
[Even him],[Antichrist] whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


I don't care if the site talks about religion, faith, etc... The Hindu have it too. As soon as I read "Karma," I just flee! wacko.gif

As Marylin Hickey puts it in her wonderfully written book "Signs in the Heavens":

The devil has deceived people for thousand of years through astrology; he's convinced them that they could find answers to their questions about the future. Instead of seeking God for His wisdom, people have accepted on of Satan's greated counterfeits:the lie of astrology.

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God has placed the stars AS SIGNS IN THE HEAVENS and the psalmist declares that The heavens DECLARE THE GLORY OF GOD; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. (Psalm 19:1)

The glory of God, and not of man.

When the magi went to Bethelem, they went to see Jesus; they had seen HIS STAR in the Heavens, and not their future!

That's why they are called "WISE men".

The Bible says: "And there shall be SIGNS in the sun, and in the moon, AND IN THE STARS (Luke 21:25)

... and God said, let there be lights in the firmaments of the Heaven to divide the day from the night, and LET THEM BE FOR SIGNS, and for seasons, and for days, and years (Genesis 1:14) happy.gif
shy1
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It is The Matrix.

The Matrix was on tv last night. I watched part of it. ph34r.gif

What's amazing to me about Obama is that he has incredible charisma and appeal to many people, but I don't know what the substance is. What are his positions, really? What does he stand for? When do we find out? Change, yes, and a new direction, but what does that MEAN????
flyingsquirrel
I just thought he was popular because people are tired of the same old faces...tired of the Bush / Clinton dynasty bunch of rich white guys (and a woman) who seem to belong to the same little club, because he's young and not white, he doesn't appear to be part of the same little club...but its possible that he is more like 'them' then meets the eye...with politicans, you never know until they are in office. They seem like paid professional actors than people who are supposed to be leaders, entertainers, not servants of the people.
Mercy
What would JFK do?
Boston Globe - 31 minutes ago
IN 1963, John F. Kennedy was murdered in Texas by a fervent admirer of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. In 2008, a large Cuban flag emblazoned with the image of Che Guevara, Castro's brutal henchman, is prominently displayed in a Barack Obama campaign ...
Obama's Strategic Approach to Latin America Huffington Post
Che Spotted in Obama's Houston Office Miami New Times
AINA - Waterbury Republican American - Investor's Business Daily (subscription) - WorldNetDaily

The sweeter the honey, the more you should distrust the motives.
A president/candidate who has the guts to claim to go back to the foundation "In God We Trust" and THEREBY does not hesitate or blink with an eye to say things that will be impopular (read potentially hurting polls & popularity), THAT is your righteous president.

I will follow these campaigns now with more scrutiny. Look for signs please.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
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Some of the orthodox sources are viewing Senator Barack Obama's selection of a Lincoln archetype campaign, as a warning.

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent; Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:17am ET
SPRINGFIELD, Illinois (Reuters) - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama opens his 2008 White House run on Saturday in a setting rife with symbolism and historic links to Abraham Lincoln's fight to end slavery.

This Obama report created a research idea, for me to review Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address. Lincoln presented this 701 [ seven hundred one ] word speech,
March 4, 1865. Which was a little over a month from the murder date of, April 14, 1865. This 701 numerical code is explained later in this article. [ see copy of this address speech at the end of this article ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln's...augural_address

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What if a "back of the head" gun shot code: 29[twenty-nine], involves a 16th President, whose 701 words are surfacing as monuments, for April 2008 ? Does the upcoming 143rd anniversary murder date of Lincoln, mean anything to prevent future assassinations ? This article was designed to spark more research by the public, into decoding the events surrounding Lincoln's murder.








This is so interesting, CSA, how you have potentially linked the two together, in this case the Revelation 13 Leopard Beast (Obama) and his possible mortal head wound. You just NEVER cease to amaze me.









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