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LarryKatzberg
My parents raised me in the jewish religion, but i always knew there was something not quite right. My best friend was a christian and we always used to talk about our faith. I guess i just grew up and realized that what my parents were trying to indoctrinate wasn't the whole truth.

It was hard growing up for me especially since i didn't have many people to talk about the christian faith except for my best friend. but his family moved to another state so i felt left alone. hopefully i can share ideas and values with the good people on this forum 1dsz5e4.gif
dennis mann
QUOTE(LarryKatzberg @ Nov 17 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]130919[/snapback]

My parents raised me in the jewish religion, but i always knew there was something not quite right. My best friend was a christian and we always used to talk about our faith. I guess i just grew up and realized that what my parents were trying to indoctrinate wasn't the whole truth.

It was hard growing up for me especially since i didn't have many people to talk about the christian faith except for my best friend. but his family moved to another state so i felt left alone. hopefully i can share ideas and values with the good people on this forum 1dsz5e4.gif



welcome!

please tell us about the Jewish beliefs,............i know very little about it, except what the OT says.

for instance,........what is the afterlife for Good Jews?............Heaven?
what is the afterlife for bad people?...............Hell?

does it say that in the OT?
LarryKatzberg
It's not exactly the same as heaven and hell but that are similarities

Jews believe that after death their soul will be in a sort of divine state in a place called the "World to Come".
While life on earth as we know it is called simply "This World". And the better you live by jewish believe and perform spiritial acts in "this world" the better your soul will be able to absorb the divine in the world to come. The world to come is also described as Gan Eden (garden of eden)

here is a passage about the jewish Gehinnom (hell)

am sated with misfortune; I am at the brink of Sheol.
I am numbered with those who go down to the Pit;
I am a helpless man
abandoned among the dead,
like bodies lying in the grave
of whom You are mindful no more,
and who are cut off from Your care.
You have put me at the bottom of the Pit,
in the darkest places, in the depths.
(Psalm 88:4-7)

Unlike the Christian hell, in Gehinnom you are punished for 12th months. "After 12 months, their body is consumed and their soul is burned and the wind scatters them under the soles of the feet of the righteous (Rosh Hashanah 17a)") or continue to be punished.

dennis mann
QUOTE(LarryKatzberg @ Nov 17 2007, 01:38 PM) [snapback]130927[/snapback]

It's not exactly the same as heaven and hell but that are similarities

Jews believe that after death their soul will be in a sort of divine state in a place called the "World to Come".
While life on earth as we know it is called simply "This World". And the better you live by jewish believe and perform spiritial acts in "this world" the better your soul will be able to absorb the divine in the world to come. The world to come is also described as Gan Eden (garden of eden)

here is a passage about the jewish Gehinnom (hell)

am sated with misfortune; I am at the brink of Sheol.
I am numbered with those who go down to the Pit;
I am a helpless man
abandoned among the dead,
like bodies lying in the grave
of whom You are mindful no more,
and who are cut off from Your care.
You have put me at the bottom of the Pit,
in the darkest places, in the depths.
(Psalm 88:4-7)

Unlike the Christian hell, in Gehinnom you are punished for 12th months. "After 12 months, their body is consumed and their soul is burned and the wind scatters them under the soles of the feet of the righteous (Rosh Hashanah 17a)") or continue to be punished.




Thanks!

some people (like me) believe that the OT and the 4 Gospels were written TO THE JEWS (not to the gentiles).

so, when Jesus spoke in the 4 Gospels,........such as.........the rich man and the beggar Lazarus PARABLE.........Lazarus went to a place of comfort, and the rich man went to Fire..........this may be the OT (not the NT) "heaven and hell"

notice that in the 4 gospels, Lazarus went to Abraham...........
in Paul's writings (the NT was written to the gentiles ,....Christian Church Age), the deceased Christian is immediately WITH THE LORD JESUS (not abraham)
Anne
Welcome, friend!
Vive les Juifs! (Long live the Jews!) wub.gif happy.gif 1dsz5e4.gif
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vive la difference!
Shekel
QUOTE(LarryKatzberg @ Nov 17 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]130919[/snapback]

My parents raised me in the jewish religion, but i always knew there was something not quite right. My best friend was a christian and we always used to talk about our faith. I guess i just grew up and realized that what my parents were trying to indoctrinate wasn't the whole truth.

It was hard growing up for me especially since i didn't have many people to talk about the christian faith except for my best friend. but his family moved to another state so i felt left alone. hopefully i can share ideas and values with the good people on this forum 1dsz5e4.gif


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