Is it true that Barack Obama has no real chance of becoming American President because Americans
feel safer with white politicians?

I don't see it as a race issue. Obama doesn't have the experience necessary. If what you said was true he'd have one heck of a lot more support from his own African American community not to mention Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

I would imagine a substantial amount of his support now is from people tired of typical, Washington established, career politicians and looking for something "fresh".

I for one am sick of the politicians. I will do my part responsibly to help elect the best possible candidate based on what I believe knowing the whole time it's God who has things under control. The book has already been written and we're really just along for the ride and that soon, and very soon, Jesus will be arriving to set up a truly perfect world as King of Kings.

Some of the orthodox sources are viewing Senator Barack Obama's selection of
a Lincoln archetype campaign, as a warning.
http://historicalstories-holisticwarrior.blogspot.com/

Senator Obama (bin Laden) will not be the next president of the United States, but not because of his race. I don’t think Senator Clinton will be the next president either, but this is because of history.

Since 1952 the Republicans have nominated:

1952 A retired army general, Dwight Eisenhower.
1956 An incumbent, Dwight Eisenhower.
1960 An incumbent vice-president, Richard Nixon.
1964 An incumbent senator, Barry Goldwater.
1968 A former vice-president, Richard Nixon.
1972 An incumbent president, Richard Nixon.
1976 An incumbent president, Gerald Ford.
1980 A former state governor, Ronald Reagan.
1984 An incumbent president, Ronald Reagan.
1988 An incumbent vice-president, George H. W. Bush.
1992 An incumbent president, George H. W. Bush.
1996 A (former?) senator, Robert Dole (I don’t remember if he resigned from the Senate before or after the GOP convention).
2000 A state governor, George W. Bush.
2004 An incumbent president, George W. Bush.

Since 1952 the Democrats have nominated:

1952 A state governor, Adlai Stevenson.
1956 A former state governor, Adlai Stevenson.
1960 An incumbent senator, John F. Kennedy.
1964 An incumbent president, Lyndon B. Johnson.
1968 An incumbent vice-president, Hubert H. Humphrey.
1972 An incumbent senator, George McGovern.
1976 A former state governor, Jimmy Carter.
1980 An incumbent president, Jimmy Carter.
1984 A former vice-president, Walter Mondale
1988 A state governor, Michael Dukakis.
1992 A state governor, Bill Clinton.
1996 A resident of the White House, Bill Clinton.
2000 A resident of Number 1 Observatory Circle.
2004 An incumbent senator, John Kerry.

So in the last 14 presidential elections only 4 senators have received a major party nomination for president and only 1 of these senators has been elected president.

At the same time the parties have nominated 6 governors for the presidency.

History is not on Obama or Clinton’s side.

The biggest complaint against Obama is his lack of experience. He is a first term Senator, prior to which he was a state Senator for 8 years. And that's about it. Many thought his decision to jump into the '08 race was a bad idea, and that he should have waited untill '12 or even '16.

In my opinion, his race would actually be a plus. African Americans typically do not turn out in high percentages to vote, often times becasue they feel that none of the candidates really represent them. However, this would likely change if an African American candidate was nominated, and many states with high percentages of blacks may see their typical voting paterns altered.

This is all moot though, as Obama is not going to win the nomination. He will easily win reelection to his seat in '10, and may take another shot in a few years. But it's just too early for him now.

Isn't Barack Obama a Muslim??

I would never want to have a Muslim for a president of the USA!!!

I have read that he joined some Christian church, but I did go to Christian churches too when I was unsaved, and therefore it doesn't prove much...

As a matter of fact, I remember clearly going with my mom, dad, bro, sis TO A DEAD CHURCH and now that I am born again, I go... alone TO A LIVE CHURCH

Back to Obama: that would not be the first time that politicians use religion fo rpolitical gain! Just look at Hitler and in a soon future with the Antichrist!

So I think Hillary has more changes!
Besises, where does this Obama come from???
he seems
to have popped into the scene
all of a sudden...

No, Obama is not a Muslim and has never been a Muslim. Where did you hear this?

Politicians using religion for political gain? It's all around us. The Right has been making a mockery out of Christianity for decades now...

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No, Obama is not a Muslim and has never been a Muslim. Where did you hear this?

Politicians using religion for political gain? It's all around us. The Right has been making a mockery out of Christianity for decades now...
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Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language. Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.

Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.

Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best.

In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.




Can you imagine anybody being left of Hillary. Newsflash! Obama is as far left as they get and has the record to back that up.

BTW, there shouldn't be a single soul on this forum even thinking about ANY of the democratic candidtes as they are ALL PRO-CHOICE and if elected would install judges of the same mind.

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No, Obama is not a Muslim and has never been a Muslim. Where did you hear this?

Politicians using religion for political gain? It's all around us. The Right has been making a mockery out of Christianity for decades now...
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Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language. Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.

Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.

Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best.

In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.




Can you imagine anybody being left of Hillary. Newsflash! Obama is as far left as they get and has the record to back that up.

BTW, there shouldn't be a single soul on this forum even thinking about ANY of the democratic candidtes as they are ALL PRO-CHOICE and if elected would install judges of the same mind.
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His father is a "radical islamic"? I am somewhat doubtful of this. Can you please provide a link to your information?

Furthermore, the claims that he attended a "madrassah school" have been debunked.

Simply copy-and-pasting text doesn't make it legitimate. Out of curiosity, where did you get this?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_b...bama_muslim.htm

Say what you will about my sources, but there they are... and I think you will have a difficult time convincing people that Snopes has a political lean... can you say the same for your source?

And let's face it: the Republicans = anti abortion thing is a farce. 7 of the 9 current supreme court justices were appointed by Republicans... and we are no closer to overturning Roe than we were in 1972. The republicans know that as long as they have the abortion issue to dangle in front of us, many will literally ignore everything else (i.e. war, human rights, capital punishment, the enviroment, treatment of the poor in this country, social justice, etc).

Does anyone else find it ironic that since Roe, the presidential administration which saw the largest drop in the abortion rate in the US was the Clinton administration? Indeed... for all the "anti-abortion" trumpeting, the Republicans have been pretty bad at stopping, or even slowing it.

Diver, I really hope the source you used was better than this nonsense you posted a while back:

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=12601

Please see my response to that thread.

This was an article you forwarded from something called World Net Daily. It was completely and utterly false, and there was absolutely no basis to the story whatsoever. None. I do have to give you credit- your article fooled a dozen posters here, some even posting links to recent disasters in California as proof of God's unhappiness.

Well, inspite of this, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. So I will wait for you to provide the link to your information about Obama and his "closet-Muslim" faith, and I will read it with an open mind.

Hilary hasn’t yet completed the 1st year of her own 2nd term and unlike Obama she hadn’t had any previous political experience before she entered the Senate.

JFK was also a 1st term senator and his only previous political experience was as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives for several terms.

His full name is Barack Hussein Obama. His father was Kenyan, which means his father was very likely a Muslim.

One of the only 2 justices that dissented in the Roe decision was appointed by a Democrat: Byron White appointed by JFK.

Since the Roe decision was issued the Democrats have appointed only 2 justices to the Supreme Court, but Republicans have appointed the abortionists O’Connor, Kennedy and Souter (together with whomever Nixon and Ford appointed after Roe) and until proven otherwise I will include Alito and Roberts in the abortionist category as well.

In the Roe decision the Court ruled that since nothing in either the Constitution or federal law defines a person for 14th Amendment purposes the woman’s right to abort must take precedence over the unborn’s right to life. But, the Court also ruled that Congress could establish legal personhood for the unborn simply by passing a law to this effect. Then, the unborn’s right to life might take precedence over the woman’s right to abort and the Court would have cause to revisit the Roe decision.

But at no time, when the Republicans had control of the White House and both Houses of Congress, have they seriously tried to enact a legal person law for the unborn.

Anyone who believes the Republicans are really against abortion is an utter fool.

BTW: My understanding is that the abortion rate declined durign the Slick Administration simply because the number of abortion age women in the U.S. population declined.

I provided a link a few posts back regarding this. His upbringing, parentage, schooling, and religon are all addressed. Feel free to look it over. Please note that it contains links to the sources of information (something that is conspicuously missing from all of the "Obama is a Muslim" articles), and fully addresses this urban legend from top to bottom.

If for whatever reason you decide you do not trust Snopes, do the research on your own. I look forward to any pertinent information you may have regarding Obama's "Muslim" upbringing and ideology.





I rest my case

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Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (black muslim) of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham of Wichita, Kansas. (white atheist ).

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya. His mother married Lolo Soetoro -- a Muslim -- moving to Jakarta with Obama when he was six years old. Within six months he had learned to speak the Indonesian language. Obama spent "two years in a Muslim school, then two more in a Catholic school" in Jakarta. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim while admitting that he was once a Muslim, mitigating that damning information by saying that, for two years, he also attended a Catholic school.

Obama's father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a radical Muslim who migrated from Kenya to Jakarta, Indonesia. He met Obama's mother, Ann Dunham-a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas-at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Obama, Sr. and Dunham divorced when Barack, Jr. was two.

Obama's spinmeisters are now attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came from his father and that influence was temporary at best.

In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya immediately following the divorce and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta's Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.


Could it be that Obama is practicing "Taqiyya" the mostly Shi'a principle that one is allowed to hide one's true beliefs in certain circumstances. It is acceptible to lie to infidels--non Muslims.

I just got this in an email. I do not think he is the anti christ but still very very interesting.
Kim
Subject: important info on Barack Obama running for us president


BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA
This is really scary. Please educate everyone about this. I
personally think he may be the Ani-Christ.

Rev.13:18, the last verse of the chapter, says that the number of the
Antichrist is that of a man, and his number is 666... and the verse
challenge us to have wisdom to calculate the number of he Beast!.

Many prophecy students view the image of the antimessiah as a great
charismatic figure who sweeps the world off its feet with power,
offering himself first as a hero, then turning to evil. These are the vain
imaginations of men. The Scripture presents the antimessiah as the person
with no power who usurps and influences others. Those with power give
it to him.

It's your choice.

If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all
your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us
here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and
share it.

We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for
yourself.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita,
Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia?
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that
he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to
Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence
over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in
Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is
politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office
in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United
Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO,
keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor
will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands
over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our country?...... NOT ME!!!

Well, I'm a Republican and I'm really against abortion, and since all the people who know me knows this about me, I guess they must be fools. Get real. Why is it that either party gets the blame for 'not being for' or 'being for' when they simply don't have the 3/4 majority it takes to override a veto? The Repubs didn't have the needed majority the first time partial birth abortion was outlawed, which dear ol' slick willie vetoed, keeping it legal for a few more years. Thankfully Bush was able to rectify that. True, I'm disappointed in my party for not being able to do more against abortion, but at least the average Repub finds it wrong on some level, unlike the Dems. They positively revel in it. It's probably the reason the number of abortion age women declined- they were aborted. Interesting how the party of femi-nazis who have ranted and raved about 'women's rights' have turned their backs on all of the baby girls who have been aborted, but since they can't vote, it makes sense. Considering the Dems history of having dead people vote for them, the babies are completely worthless to them, since they have never had birth, and therefore death, certificates issued to them.

It's amazing to me that some people, even very intelligent people, will allow a media induced hatred of the right to cloud their thinking. Even when they KNOW right from wrong, they will defend the vilest of creatures if s/he is a Dem. Just blows my mind. At least those of us who are Repubs will turn our backs on those who have failed us, and not just re-elect them (Kennedy, as an example) over and over. When had a Dem ever been held accountable for their moral failures? Never, because morality doesn't affect Dems. Even at their highest point when they had JFK, they gleefully accepted a philandering adulterer as what to aim for. Sickening, at best.

Diver and Kim, I'm with you on this. Barack is a fraud. The blacks know this, that's why they aren't behind him. Only who is seems to be is Oprah, but that's enough to get him to the core Dem constituency, the unemployed social parasites who lay around watching talk shows. You know, the kind that sits around dreaming up ways to enhance envy and jealousy by turning up the class warfare, even when they have ALL the Hollywood money AND George Soros, just to get more votes from the ones that like the idea of sitting on their butts and doing nothing while the big nice government man takes what should be theirs away from the mean nasty working man who has earned it and 'redistributes' it more 'fairly'. Obviously there are more 'won't earn it' types than 'will earn it' types, so that explains the Dems popularity. They got to this level of power simply by trading in this one deadly sin, envy.

Well, I've got to go to work now, someone has to pay all those taxes to keep the Dems' constituency happy, not pregnant anymore, doped up, at home, and on their couches so they can watch Oprah.

In Christ, Angela

If Hillary wins, we should appreciate the Bible imagery of a woman riding the beast (Rev 17).
Though the imagery is really about a church (Jer 6:2 likens a people to a woman with a pure woman being God's movement and an impure woman being Babylon, a wealthy church involved with governments, a city with 7 hills, persecuting many, and nations represented in Rev 17), nevertheless, multiple meanings may apply.

Richard

I loved it


From another proud and working Republican......Whirlwind


PS: The idea of someone named Barack HUSSEIN Obama being elected President of our country seven years after 9/11 is astounding to me. Unbelievable

I have been wanting to post here all day. I cant imagine some one wanting to run for president with that name after 9.11
The other thing that is so strange is the other day I was watching the news and he had a speech in Calif to give. Anyway, there was so many people there he could not go on stage. They had to move it or something so there would be more room. They said it was like a following and everywhere he went there was a following. Not like a person running for president but following him as a groupie so to speak. It was kinda scary watching for me because I thought how easy it is to get people to follow right into the anti-christ. I DO NOT think he is at all but think how easy it will be.
Kim

The only thing I'm wondering is if this kind of behavior occured before. Did any candidate in previous presidential elections have this kind of pseudo cult-like following?

GO OBAMA!! thats funny some of you guys do not like his middle name. I find that a bit prejudice. Does it matter? He is American and will actually follow the Constitution!

How do you know he will follow the Constitution? I have tried to discover his positions on the issues. His website won't let you in unless you sign up for E-mail. So I am left with nebulous "change". Who knows what he really means by that?

During one debate instead of answering a question he dodged it by saying that such questions were meant to divide -- as if a debate is not about discerning differences. He's said other equally dumb stuff.

I understand he has a plan for federal health insurance. Tell me where in the Constitution the federal government is given authorization to do such a thing. If it's not specifically there, his plan violates the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Therefore he's already proposing a violation of the Constitution!

And that's just for starters. If I could access his official positions without subjecting myself to junk E-mail, I could point out others. But that's unnecessary. If somebody will violate the paramount contract in one instance, he will do it in others.

Hussein is a common name, rather like "Smith" or "Garcia". I have no problem with that. But the guy has already told me that he either doesn't understand or doesn't respect the Constitution -- despite having taken an oath to uphold it. That's a pretty good indication that he would disregard a similar oath taken next January.

That's funny Kim. I was watching some of Obama's ads running here in California and I was thinking the same thing. There's something about him that attracts people. That groupie thing. Weird.

well what about our freedoms being taken away with what is currently going on? He plans to take away any of these new plans if we are for it. such as the patriot act. I like his ideas on immigration, but do not know enough to really argue about it. I mainly was commenting on the middle name thing. myspace.com/election2008 thats a link to videos of obama, mccain, and edwards answering questions for a younger crowd base with some good questions. Obama impressed me more than mccain, but check it out for yourself

I thought about this topic all night. No one really knows what he stands for but still he has this following. Kinda scary to me.
I know he is for universal health care and that is scary the govt telling us what we must do for our own health.
Kim

On that side I would like to see Obama in the white house...so many of his ethnicity are in the "big house."

But I figure it will either be Hillary or John Mcain...because Hillary is a woman it would be interesting...If only she had not had that husband of hers...but then again that is how politicians survive...on the short memories of the populace...John Mcaiin has the right stuff and background...as he says, He does not need any on the job training. These two have the savvy and background and I am fairly certain one or the other will lead us to Armageddon...

Seems like American politics has reached a liminal point, where they will
accept a non-thretatening black leader like Barack.

Barack seems to have a certain charisma.
But he's come more or less from nowhere,
and no-one seems to know much about him...........which is slightly odd.

If all this right wing stuff about him being anti-patriotic and a closet Muslim,
and not upholding the constitution is propaganda, why doesn't he take out
a full page ad in the New York Times and deny it outright?

Well, he would certainly need on-the-job training on economic matters. He pretty much admitted it when ducking Ron Paul's debate question. He as plenty of experience mismanaging economics (see "Keating Five") but not much in proper management. Rookie mistakes in this area could have devastating consequences.

I have the feeling that people voting for Barack Obama vote more AGAINST Hillary Clinton than for him!

That is certainly a factor, Anne. But Obama does have a genuine cult following. Even in writing, Obama supporters tend to chant as if they were propitiating an idol: "Obama! OBama! OBAma!" They'll repeat the words "change" and "uniting", sort of like saying "abracadabra".

There is certainly some of this in every campaign. But wth Obama it seems to be the sum total of the appeal.

He is charismatic, and avoids giving much specific information on his programs. In my book, that makes him a typical demagogue. His appeal is based largely upon appearance rather than substance.

Clinton, on the other hand, bases her campaign on implausible deniability. "I voted for the war because I was duped. Elect a dupe for president." "Yuno, I'll end the war on Day One...yuno, maybe I won't... Yuno, okay, I will..." Yuno?

I would like to know where he stands also.
HUMMMM how can a person that comes out of no where and yet have such a following.
They other day some one was talking to me about voting for him and they were like star stuck but they could answer me about what he stands for. It didnt matter to them at all.
I thought to myself how easy it would be for the anti- christ to set up because he is to pretend to all the answers and no one will know where he came from also.
Kim

I would vote for him, no problem, if his views lined up with what I believe is right. He's a very charismatic person who would represent the U.S. well in that aspect. I just don't agree with his policies and positions on important issues. Hillary, either, and that doesn't have anything to do with her gender. Good question, though. I'm sure there are people who feel that way, who may have been raised that way, in ignorance of the fact that a person's skin color has nothing to do with what they can accomplish or who they are inside.

Edit: Just to clarify--I agree with those who say he's further left than Hillary, and that makes him unacceptable to me. Repeat: I'm not voting for him. It's fascinating to watch his cult following, though. And with fervent, I feel that one or the other of the candidates WILL lead us down the road to Armageddon. They might be the actual a/c or just following along, but follow along they will.

I feel the same way Shy. I could care less what color of skin he has or what gender. I do care about is how as a Christain I should vote.
Like you, I feel as Christains we are able to see alot that is going on. I guess we should rejoice in the Lord because we can see the out come.
Where did this man come from that so many are following.
Kim

The way I understand it.....Obama was not a Muslim. He was raised by his white grandparents.

Perhaps some of it is true.....but he nor Hillary will get my vote tomarrow. NO DEMOCRAT WILL.

But if I had a choice between him and Hillary....I would choose Edwards. But unfortunately...he dropped.

I hope Hillary is not the one. I don't think Obama would win. But Hillary may have a chance. That scares me very much.

Here is rather funny video.....

Unfortunately...we don't have Rudy running anymore either. But I think we still have a couple good men on the Republican side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqOHquOkpaU