OLMERT FACES MORE INVESTIGATIONS 10/14 on: Today at 06:11:18pm
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLa...3459808,00.html

Congress must approve U.S. attack vs Iran: Pelosi By Andrea Shalal-Esa
Sun Oct 14, 12:33 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush must seek congressional approval before taking any military action in Iran, unless Tehran attacks the United States first, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Sunday.

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"We don't believe that any authorities that the president has would give him the ability to go in without an act of Congress," Pelosi told ABC's "This Week" program.

"Any president, if we are attacked, if our country is attacked has -- even under the War Powers Act -- very strong powers to go after that country. But short of that, he must come to the Congress," said the top Democrat in the House of Representatives.

Pelosi said Bush had not requested any congressional authority to take military action in Iran, despite growing U.S. concern over Iran's nuclear ambitions and its support for militant groups in Lebanon and Gaza.

Republican presidential candidates last week said it may be necessary to attack Iran's nuclear facilities to prevent it from developing a bomb, but they were cautious about a preemptive strike, saying Congress should be consulted first.

Iran denies trying to build a nuclear weapon, but the United States, France, Britain and other countries fear Iran's stated pursuit of nuclear-generated electricity is a precursor to learning how to build atom bombs.

Bush this month said the United States was working to resolve the nuclear standoff with Iran diplomatically but was keeping all its options open.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice last week said Washington was considering sanctions against the Qods force, the elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, which it accuses of inciting violence against U.S. troops in Iraq.

The Senate last month passed a resolution urging the Bush administration to "combat, contain, and roll back" Iran's "violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq," and to designate the entire Guard a "terrorist" organization.

The House passed a similar measure, but it told the White House to determine if the Guard should be labeled as such.

Iran condemned the congressional resolutions, saying any U.S. move to brand the Guard a terrorist group would amount to a confrontation with the entire Islamic Republic.

"Whatever Iran's impact is on our troops in Iraq should be dealt with in Iraq," Pelosi said.

Very interesting posts Lois.
We seem to live in extraordinary times.

15 Oct 07

Rice: It's Time To Establish A Palestinian State
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza said Monday that President Bush has decided to make ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "one of the highest priorities of his administration." An international peace conference expected to take place in Annapolis, Maryland, in the fall has to be serious and substantive, Rice said at a news conference with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. -"Frankly, It's Time For the Establishment of A Palestinian State," she added.

Magnitude 6.8 Earthquake -South Island New Zealand
A Magnitude 6.8 earthquake has struck the South Island New Zealand Region on Monday, October 15, 2007 at 12:29:37 UTC, at a depth of 25.4 km. Will update as more details become available.

'Major earthquake in Israel – a matter of time'
GII picks up two small earthquakes in Jordan rift valley area over past few days. Study shows major quake is pending

UN envoy attacks Mid-East Quartet
A top UN expert has said he will urge the world body to withdraw from the Quartet of Middle East mediators unless it addresses Palestinian human rights.John Dugard, the UN human rights envoy for the Palestinian Territories, told the BBC the US, EU, UN and Russia were failing to protect the Palestinians.He said the UN "does itself little good by remaining a member of the Quartet".

Water May Be More Limited
If Georgia orders watering restrictions in metro Atlanta beyond the current outdoor ban, it will be taking drought-fighting steps that not even arid Southern California or Las Vegas has had to make.water experts around the nation say they don't recall any major U.S. metro area being forced into such dire drought measures in about two decades.

Olmert faces 2 more police probes
Two new criminal investigations opened against prime minister over alleged acts of misconduct during his tenure as labor minister, in addition to ongoing investigations in Bank Leumi, Cremieux affairs

Turkish general says too early to speak on Iraq move
A top Turkish general said on Monday it was too early to speak on the timing or scale of a possible operation against separatist Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq, for which parliament's approval will be sought this week.

Putin confirms Iran trip, despite plot
Russian President Vladimir Putin insisted Monday that he would travel to Iran despite reports about a possible assassination attempt, saying if he paid attention to all the threats against him "I would never leave home."


Rice: It's time to establish a Palestinian state
Secretary of State says Mideast peace one of ‘highest priorities’ for Bush
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New questions on Mideast mystery
Oct. 14: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is in Israel to drum up support for a Middle East Peace Conference, but has refused to comment on the mysterious attack on Syria.
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Updated: 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
RAMALLAH, West Bank - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza said Monday that President Bush has decided to make ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict "one of the highest priorities of his administration."

An international peace conference expected to take place in Annapolis, Maryland, in the fall has to be serious and substantive, Rice said at a news conference with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

"We frankly have better things to do than invite people to Annapolis for a photo op," she said.


Israelis and Palestinians, Rice observed, are making their "most serious effort" in years to resolve the conflict.

"Frankly, it's time for the establishment of a Palestinian state," she added.

The two sides are trying to work out an outline for a final peace deal ahead of the Annapolis conference. But tensions arose on Sunday when Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told his Cabinet that he didn't regard that outline as a prerequisite for the conference to go ahead.

The Palestinians said that without such a document, they wouldn't attend the meeting.

Israel has been pushing for a vaguely worded document while the Palestinians want a detailed outline, complete with a timetable for establishing a Palestinian state.

Livni to lead Israel, Qureia for Palestinians
Israel said Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni would lead negotiations with the Palestinian team led by Ahmed Qureia, a former prime minister.

Ahead of her meetings, Rice delivered a rare warning to Israel not to take any steps that might erode confidence in the peace process. “This is a very delicate time,” she said. “It’s just a time to be extremely careful.”

Her comments referred to the renewal of a road project that Palestinians fear is intended to tighten Israeli control over strategic West Bank areas near Jerusalem. Israel says construction is not imminent and is meant to ease Palestinian movement.

But those assertions did little to ease concerns. Shortly after she landed, Israeli officials said they had decided to resume an archaeological dig near a hotly disputed Jerusalem holy site, drawing more Palestinian charges that Israel is trying to scuttle the conference.

Rice also met with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who later issued a statement saying the military’s freedom of movement in the West Bank was a “fundamental principle that must be demanded in the future as well.”


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In Moscow, Rice blasts Putin's power concentration


The comments from Barak, who later headed to Washington for talks with the Bush administration, came despite long-standing Palestinian demands for a reduced Israeli presence in the West Bank.

Rice is on her third trip to the region since June, when the United States began to try to revive peace efforts after the Islamic militant group Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip.

That takeover has left the moderate Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, in control of just the West Bank. His expulsion of Hamas from the government has, in U.S. eyes, freed him to pursue a peace deal that would create a Palestinian state.

To build Arab support for the conference, Rice plans stops in Egypt on Tuesday to see President Hosni Mubarak and in Britain on Thursday, where she will see King Abdullah of Jordan.

The participation of the those countries, the only major Arab nations to have signed peace deals with Israel, along with Saudi Arabia is considered key to the success of the conference. All three have expressed doubts about the effectiveness of the meeting.



UN envoy attacks Mid-East Quartet
By Tim Franks
BBC News, Jerusalem



Mr Dugard presents independent reports on human rights to the UN
A top UN expert has said he will urge the world body to withdraw from the Quartet of Middle East mediators unless it addresses Palestinian human rights.

John Dugard, the UN human rights envoy for the Palestinian Territories, told the BBC the US, EU, UN and Russia were failing to protect the Palestinians.

He said the UN "does itself little good by remaining a member of the Quartet".

In his role as a UN special rapporteur, Mr Dugard has been visiting the West Bank and Gaza for the past seven years.

Special rapporteurs are independent experts appointed by the UN Human Rights Council.

They are advisers and do not decide UN policy.

"Every time I visit, the situation seems to have worsened," he said in a BBC interview.

I will suggest that the secretary general withdraw the UN from the Quartet, if the Quartet fails to have regard to the human rights situation in the Palestinian Territories

John Dugard,
UN special rapporteur


Quartet's 'deaf ears'

"This time, I was very struck by the sense of hopelessness among the Palestinian people."

Mr Dugard attributed this to "the crushing effect of human rights violations", and in particular Israeli restrictions on Palestinians' freedom of movement.

He said that although Israel did have a threat to its security, "its response is very disproportionate".

He said the purpose of some of the checkpoints in the middle of the West Bank was to break it up "into a number of cantons and make the life of Palestinians as miserable as possible".

'Weak' response

The South African retired professor of international law said the response of the Quartet was weak because it was "heavily influenced" by the US.


Israel's checkpoints are a source of frustration for Palestinians

The Quartet failed to engage properly on human rights, he said, and was also failing to deal with the current rift between the rival Palestinian factions of Fatah and Hamas.

The militant Islamist movement Hamas seized the Gaza Strip in June, ousting Fatah, which is led by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

Mr Dugard said the rift was threatening the Palestinians' right to self-determination, and that the UN "should be playing the role of the mediator".

"Instead the international community has given its support almost completely to one faction - to Fatah," he said. "That's not the role the UN should take."

Pessimistic

For these reasons, Mr Dugard said it might be time for the UN to leave the Quartet.

If [Palestinian] expectations are not met, I fear there may be serious consequences

John Dugard

"In my most recent report to the General Assembly, which I will present later this month, I will suggest that the secretary general withdraw the UN from the Quartet, if the Quartet fails to have regard to the human rights situation in the Palestinian Territories," he said.

It is a backdrop which makes him pessimistic about the major US-sponsored peace conference between Israel and the Palestinians, expected to be held next month.

Mr Dugard said he saw a greater danger - that of the Palestinian Authority raising expectations too high in the Palestinian community.

"If those expectations are not met, I fear there may be serious consequences," he added.

The consequences include the possibility of a third "intifada", a large-scale, violent uprising against the Israelis, he said.

Mr Dugard said this should be no surprise.

"Inevitably in a military occupation, there are likely to be those engaged in resistance."

These people may be labelled terrorists, Mr Dugard added, but history treats them differently.

He cited the example of the French Resistance during World War II, and those in Namibia who fought occupation by South Africa.

"Now," he said, "they are in government and treated as heroes."




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Putin confirms Iran trip, despite plot 2 hours, 48 minutes ago



WIESBADEN, Germany - Russian President Vladimir Putin insisted Monday that he would travel to Iran despite reports about a possible assassination attempt, saying if he paid attention to all the threats against him "I would never leave home."

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Russia's Interfax news agency, citing a source in Russia's intelligence services, said Sunday that suicide terrorists had been trained to carry out the assassination in Iran.

Putin said the trip was planned long in advance and that he would talk with Iranian leaders about their disputed nuclear program, although he stressed the original purpose of the trip was to discuss issues affecting states bordering on the Caspian Sea.

"Of course I am going to Iran," Putin told reporters in a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel following talks with her. "If I always listened to all the various threats and the recommendations of the special services I would never leave home."

Iranian officials have rejected reports about the plot.

He underlined the need to solve the nuclear problem "through peaceful measures," adding that it was important to make direct contact with Tehran whenever the chance presented itself.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WIESBADEN, Germany (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin insisted Monday that "of course" he would travel to Tehran, despite reports about a possible assassination attempt.

Russia's Interfax news agency, citing a source in Russia's intelligence services, said Sunday that suicide terrorists had been trained to carry out the assassination in Iran.

"Of course I am going to Iran," Putin told reporters in a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel following talks with her. "If I always listened to all the various threats and the recommendations of the special services I would never leave home."

Iranian officials have rejected reports about the plot.

Oh ...look at news...rice and olmert readying to divide Jerusalem...giving east to Palestinians...not good...NOT GOOD....remember a little thing called Katrina? and I think that will but be a gnat on the horse's you know what compared to what is to come in light of US position on Jerusalem....mercy Lord...mercy....
Well the dividing of Jerusalem would indeed bring upon all involved the at least judgment and possibly the wrath of God....Been in Ez and Jer for nights and it seems as if the Lord is saying He is not pleased and is going to bring down some human leaders and set it up for the coming of the true King...the Lord Jesus Christ....it is not going to be pleasant....just read about it! Oh mercy Lord...and the US is going to be judged as nation just as all the other nations...and it is based upon treatment of Israel (the true Israel...the people of God)! There must surely be coming the double-edged sword...blessings on one side for His and judgment on the other for the nations.....what a time we are living in ...it is wonderful and terrible all at once...yikess....THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF OUR LORD...could it be we are on the threshold?

3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / DELAY IN MIDEAST SUMMIT? 10/15 on: Today at 08:40:50am
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123927


4 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / UN QUIT THE QUARTET? 10/15 on: Today at 08:39:51am
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123929


5 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / RICE: IT IS TIME FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF PALESTINIAN STATE 10/15 on: Today at 08:36:05am
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...Article/Printer


6 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: RICE: NO JEWISH BUILDING IN EASTERN JERUSALEM 10/15 on: Today at 08:33:36am
OLMERT COMMENTS ALIGNING WITH RICE'S:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21288370/


7 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / RICE: NO JEWISH BUILDING IN EASTERN JERUSALEM 10/15 on: Today at 08:31:19am
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=58145


RICE PRESSURES ISRAEL 10/15 on: Today at 09:36:46am
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL1368769420071015

FBI Reports al-Qaeda Activity In New Jersey

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"This is the first time since the 9/11 attacks that FBI counterterror officials have revealed an al-Qaida presence in North Jersey."

"Kelly: Al-Qaida associates in N.J.," from Record of Bergen County:

Osama bin Laden may be hiding in the impenetrable mountains near the Afghanistan border, but FBI counterterror officials say they have identified several of his associates in a far more accessible spot -- northern New Jersey.
The FBI's elite Joint Terrorism Task Force in Newark says it is not only monitoring a number of North Jersey residents with ties to al-Qaida, but that agents have quietly "disrupted" their activities and even deported a few.

http://jihadwatch.org/


Isn't there anything this fellow can be charged with, or is he completely free to aid the global jihad from North Carolina and give interviews to the New York Times? In 1942, would a young Nazi have been allowed to propagandize freely for Hitler in Hoboken or Sioux City? "An Internet Jihad Sells Extremism to Viewers in the U.S.," by Michael Moss and Souad Mekhennet in The New York Times (thanks to all who sent this in):

When Osama bin Laden issued his videotaped message to the American people last month, a young jihad enthusiast went online to help spread the word.
“America needs to listen to Shaykh Usaamah very carefully and take his message with great seriousness,” he wrote on his blog. “America is known to be a people of arrogance.”

Unlike Mr. bin Laden, the blogger was not operating from a remote location. It turns out he is a 21-year-old American named Samir Khan who produces his blog from his parents’ home in North Carolina, where he serves as a kind of Western relay station for the multimedia productions of violent Islamic groups.

http://jihadwatch.org/



16 Oct 07


wars and rumors of war all over this globe...

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071015/83924958.html
Russian Strategic Bombers......?????


Rice Hints at Timing of Mideast Talks
It has officially been a secret of American diplomacy, if not a particularly well-kept one: the time and place of the international conference called by President Bush to begin negotiating peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/16/world/mi...nyt&emc=rss
Israel Minister: War is Inevitable
An Israeli mission to destroy the terrorist infrastructure in the Gaza Strip is inevitable, an Israeli official said Monday.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Lieberm...0/15/41160.html

Russia, Iran warn over pipeline projects
Leaders of Russia and Iran spoke out strongly Tuesday against outside interference into Caspian Sea affairs during a summit that focused on ways to divide the region's substantial energy resources.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071016/ap_on_...RkHANwCir_0kPUI

Crude Oil Rises to Record on Concern Turkey May Attack Kurds
Crude oil rose to a record, nearing $88 a barrel, because of concern Turkey may attack Kurdish militants in Iraq and disrupt shipments.Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said today that measures against Kurdish groups are ``unavoidable.'' Parliament will tomorrow consider a plan for military action against rebels in Iraq, holder of the world's third-largest reserves.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...&refer=home

Gates says all options on table for Iran
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Monday all options for dealing with Iran must remain open and called for international pressure and tougher sanctions to curb Tehran's nuclear aspirations.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071016/pl_nm/...1O3w7o5iIz0kPUI

Vicente Fox book admits North American scheme
'Toward a single continental economic union, modeled on the European example'

Ban on 'Mom' and 'Dad' sparks call for exodus
'Public districts no longer are safe environment for children'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=58154

Producer claims 'God' censored from Disney ad
Spot for 'Ten Commandments' film altered, network insists change not about religion

Is this Pope John Paul II waving from beyond the grave? Vatican TV director says yes
The image, said by believers to show the Holy Father with his right hand raised in blessing, was spotted during a ceremony in Poland to mark the second anniversary of his death. Details appeared on the Vatican News Service, a TV station in Rome which specialises in religious news broadcasts.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3460530,00.html
Assad visiting Turkey as it tries to mediate between Syria and Israel


Published: 10.16.07, 13:31 / Israel News



Syrian President Bashar Assad was starting a visit Tuesday to Turkey, which Assad has said is trying to mediate between his country and Israel.


The visit comes weeks after Israeli warplanes carried out an airstrike in northeastern Syria near the border with Turkey against a target that remains unknown, though widespread reports say it may have been a nascent nuclear facility, a claim Syria has denied. (AP)

Yes, that's the nub of the matter Lois, I am sure.

When America tries to dissolve Israel, it faces its own dissolution.

All you can do is pray for President Bush and Condoleeza Rice, that they change their mindset.

And please Lois, don't post those bleeding heart liberals like Dugard.
If you blow up families on buses, then expect consequences.
Even in the West, we've all had our Civil Liberties seriously curtailed, and that's through no fault of our own, so I really don't want to hear the bleeding heart liberals.

The Berlin Wall had minefields all around, so I don't know what they are complaining about.

EXCELLENT VIDEO > AHMINAJAD

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=...:-1:ind:1:ff:8A

Turkey Forms Alliance With Iran Against Kurds

Monday, October 15, 2007 11:15 AM
By: Kenneth R. Timmerman

Quote:
U.S. ally Turkey and U.S. arch-enemy Iran have formed a military alliance to drive opposition Kurds from bases in northern Iraq they have used since 2004 to launch guerrilla operations inside Iran, rebel leaders told Newsmax at a secret base in the Qandil mountains.

Both Iran and Turkey have vowed to send troops into northern Iraq, but until now evidence of active military cooperation between them has remained a closely-held secret.

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/tur.../15/40957.html

TALKBACKS.....

Didn't Walid Shoebat talk to to Glenn Beck about this VERY EXACT issue?!

Didn't Walid Shoebat talk to to Glenn Beck about this VERY EXACT issue?!

Given recent events, I can't say I'm surprised.
The Kurds are hated by all the nations around them.
We could be seeing a new genocide in the making.

Isn't turkey argued as one of the possible members of the Gog/Magog coalition?
Yep!


You didn't post a link, but I googled and I think this is it.

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/tur.../15/40957.html


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Turkey Forms Alliance With Iran Against Kurds

Next they will sign a treaty with gog.




Turkey Forms Alliance with Iran

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It's all just a bad dream... isnt it?

Also, is it possible that Turkey is Magog?

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/tur.../15/40957.html


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Turkey is definitely falling into position for end times events. Many people have said we can't be in the end times because of Turkey's position on so many things, but all those things are changing in a matter of months.






This is HUGE. We knew that Turkey, somehow, would fall to the "dark side", but still...



It's all just a bad dream... isnt it?

Also, is it possible that Turkey is Magog?

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/tur.../15/40957.html

No I believe that Turkey is the Togarmah, as mentioned in Biblical Prophecy. All the chess pieces, it seems, in prophecy are all falling into place, aren't they?


Turkey is definitely falling into position for end times events. Many people have said we can't be in the end times because of Turkey's position on so many things, but all those things are changing in a matter of months.

so flat out amazing...

Quote:

Isn't turkey argued as one of the possible members of the Gog/Magog coalition?

Bingo !!

Meanwhile Turkey is being stonewalled from joining the EU, and are thus being driven into the arms of Mother Russia....

Putin Visits Iran, Sends Warnings to US



Oct 16, 7:10 AM (ET)

By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

(AP) Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, waves to media as Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr...
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TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Russian leader Vladimir Putin met his Iranian counterpart Tuesday and implicitly warned the U.S. not to use a former Soviet republic to stage an attack on Iran. He also said nations shouldn't pursue oil pipeline projects in the area if they weren't backed by regional powers.

At a summit of the five nations that border the inland Caspian Sea, Putin said none of the nations' territory should be used by any outside countries for use of military force against any nation in the region. It was a clear reference to long-standing rumors that the U.S. was planning to use Azerbaijan, a former Soviet republic, as a staging ground for any possible military action against Iran.

"We are saying that no Caspian nation should offer its territory to third powers for use of force or military aggression against any Caspian state," Putin said.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also underlined the need to keep outsiders away from the Caspian.


(AP) From left, Soviet Union Premier Josef Stalin, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and British...
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"All Caspian nations agree on the main issue - that all aspects related to this sea must be settled exclusively by littoral nations," he said. "The Caspian Sea is an inland sea and it only belongs to the Caspian states, therefore only they are entitled to have their ships and military forces here."

Putin, whose trip to Tehran is the first by a Kremlin leader since World War II, warned that energy pipeline projects crossing the Caspian could only be implemented if all five nations that border the Caspian support them.

Putin did not name any specific country, but his statement underlined Moscow's strong opposition to U.S.-backed efforts to build pipelines to deliver hydrocarbons to the West bypassing Russia.

"Projects that may inflict serious environmental damage to the region cannot be implemented without prior discussion by all five Caspian nations," he said.

Other nations bordering the Caspian Sea and in attendance at the summit are: Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan.

The legal status of the Caspian - believed to contain the world's third-largest energy reserves - has been in limbo since the 1991 Soviet collapse, leading to tension and conflicting claims to seabed oil deposits.

Iran, which shared the Caspian's resources equally with the Soviet Union, insists that each coastal nation receive an equal portion of the seabed. Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan want the division based on the length of each nation's shoreline, which would give Iran a smaller share.

Putin's visit took place despite warnings of a possible assassination plot and amid hopes that a round of personal diplomacy could help offer a solution to an international standoff on Iran's nuclear program.

Putin's trip was thrown into doubt when the Kremlin said Sunday that he had been informed by Russian intelligence services that suicide attackers might try to kill him in Tehran, but he shrugged off the warning.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini dismissed reports about the purported assassination plot as disinformation spread by adversaries hoping to spoil good relations between Russia and Iran.

Putin has warned the U.S. and other nations against trying to coerce Iran into reining in its nuclear program and insists peaceful dialogue is the only way to deal with Tehran's defiance of a U.N. Security Council demand that it suspend uranium enrichment.

"Threatening someone, in this case the Iranian leadership and Iranian people, will lead nowhere," Putin said Monday during his trip to Germany. "They are not afraid, believe me."

Iran's rejection of the council's demand and its previous clandestine atomic work has fed suspicions in the U.S. and other countries that Tehran is working to enrich uranium to a purity usable in nuclear weapons. Iran insists it is only wants lesser-enriched uranium to fuel nuclear reactors that would generate electricity.

Putin's visit to Tehran is being closely watched for any possible shifts in Russia's carefully hedged stance in the nuclear standoff.

The Russian president underlined his disagreements with Washington last week, saying he saw no "objective data" to prove Western claims that Iran is trying to construct nuclear weapons.

Putin emphasized Monday that he would negotiate in Tehran on behalf of the five permanent U.N. Security Council members - United States, Russia, China, Britain and France - and Germany, a group that has led efforts to resolve the stalemate with Tehran.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Tom Casey said the U.S. government expected Putin to "convey the concerns shared by all of us about the failure of Iran to comply with the international community's requirements concerning its nuclear program."

Putin's schedule also called for meetings with Ahmadinejad and the Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.

While the Kremlin has shielded Tehran from a U.S. push for a third round of U.N. sanctions, Iran has voiced annoyance about Moscow's foot-dragging in building a nuclear power plant in the southern port of Bushehr under a $1 billion contract.

Russia warned early this year that the plant would not be launched this fall as planned because Iran was slow in making payments. Iranian officials have angrily denied any payment arrears and accused the Kremlin of caving in to Western pressure.

Moscow also has ignored Iranian demands to ship fuel for the plant, saying it would be delivered only six months before the Bushehr plant goes on line. The launch date has been delayed indefinitely amid the payment dispute.

Any sign by Putin that Russia could quickly complete the power plant would embolden Iran and further cloud Russia's relations with the West. But analysts said Putin's trip would be important for Iran even if it yielded no agreements.

1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / PUTIN VISITS IRAN...SENDS WARNINGS TO US 10/16 on: Today at 08:40:43am
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071016/D8SA9P5O0.html


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / HIGHEST ALERT ISSUED...MAJOR ERUPTION IMMINENT? 10/16 on: Today at 08:39:27am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16740387/


6 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / PAT ROBERTSON: DIVIDING JERSUALEM RISKS GOD'S WRATH 10/16 on: Today at 08:22:49am
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3460311,00.html


7 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / LIKUD URGES RESIGNATIONS OVER INTENT TO DIVIDE JERUSALEM 10/16 on: Today at 08:21:24am
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/913188.html

11 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Turkey Forms Alliance With Iran Against Kurds 10/16 on: Today at 08:04:07am
http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=me...roupID=AB0062RM

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1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / RICE SHUTTLE MISSION IN CRISIS 10/17 on: Today at 05:04:07am
DEBKAfile Exclusive: Rice calls off second Ramallah news conference Wednesday as her shuttle mission goes into crisis

October 17, 2007, 12:47 PM (GMT+02:00)




The US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been shuttling all week between Israel and the Palestinians, with a stopover in Cairo, in a bid to forge a joint document substantial enough to convene a Middle East conference in Maryland before the end of 2007.

She was warned by all the officials she encountered that no starting-point for final-status negotiations on a Palestinian state - and therefore no agreed document - was within reach: Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak, Middle East Special Envoy Tony Blair and US diplomatic and military envoys working with the Palestinian Authority. The horizon for fulfilling the Bush vision of a two-state solution proved to be as distant as ever.

There was general agreement on all sides, according to DEBKAfile’s political sources, that Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayyad are incapable of solidifying their grip on power or combating Palestinian terror, as required by the Middle East road map.

The US Secretary also discovered that, notwithstanding his denials, Abbas is conducting secret indirect contacts with Hamas. Whatever the outcome of the Annapolis conference, if it goes ahead, he is determined to lead his Fatah party into negotiations with Hamas for a united national government and reconstruct the Gaza-West Bank link which was severed in June when Hamas drove the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority out of the Gaza Strip.

DEBKAfile’s Jerusalem sources report that top Israeli government levels and visiting US officials are deeply anxious lest the secretary of state’s decisions in the light of her setback generate a serious crisis in relations between the Bush administration and the Israeli government. Her last meeting was fixed for Wednesday afternoon with foreign minister Tzipi Livni, leader of the Israeli negotiating team.

Sources familiar with the US Secretary’s schedule believe that in the next few hours she must decide how to present the outcome of her mission to President Bush. They see three options:

1. She can advise the president to postpone the international peace conference in Annapolis to a later date.

2. Or cancel the event in view mainly of the unwillingness of Arab rulers to put in an appearance in any circumstances. Washington will then have to decide whom to blame for the fiasco.

3. Rice may propose an American-authored document for presentation to the conference. This would be tantamount to imposing a settlement on Israel and the Palestinians, and be bound to produce a clash between the Bush administration and the Olmert government over the radical Israeli concessions required for bringing the Arab parties to the conference.
from: http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4682


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / DANGEROUS TORNADOES TODAY 10/17 on: Today at 05:00:55am
http://www.accuweather.com/news-top-headli...&traveler=0


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Toxic mold aflatoxin found in Iowa and S.Dakota corn 10/17 on: Today at 04:56:27am
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews...166858320071016

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10 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: DROUGHT IN SOUTHEAST...DIRE 10/16 on: October 16, 2007, 08:57:18 PM
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/07_Earth_Chan...GA.drought.html


11 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / TURKEY IN DEFIANCE...10/16 on: October 16, 2007, 08:55:38 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...354608620071016

17 Oct 07
17 Oct 07

Japan and China lead flight from the dollar
Japan and China led a record withdrawl of foreign funds from the United States in August, heightening fears of a fresh slide in the dollar and a spike in US bond yields.

Bush opposes Turkish offensive
President Bush on Wednesday opposed Turkey's possible military offensive against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq. "We are making it very clear to Turkey that we don't think it is in their interest to send troops into Iraq," Bush said at a White House news conference.

Syria gives backing to possible Turkish incursion into Iraq
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday said he would support a Turkish incursion into northern Iraq against Kurdish rebels, as the parliament in Ankara met to vote for military action.

Turkey approves Iraq incursion plan
Turkey's parliament resoundingly approved a motion on Wednesday allowing troops to cross into northern Iraq to hunt down Kurdish rebels there, but its Western allies and Baghdad urged Ankara to refrain from military action.

Drug-Resistant Staph Germ's Toll Is Higher Than Thought
A dangerous germ that has been spreading around the country causes more life-threatening infections than public health authorities had thought and is killing more people in the United States each year than the AIDS virus, federal health officials reported yesterday.

Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that he had warned world leaders they must prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons "if you're interested in avoiding World War III."


Syrian Confirms Israel Destroyed Nuclear Facility
A Syrian official has now admitted that the Israeli operation on September 6 destroyed a nuclear facility.

Self-Proclaimed Messiah Shot by Hamas
A Gaza man incurred the anger of a Hamas-affiliated preacher in Gaza Tuesday by claiming to be the Mahdi, or Muslim redeemer.

Poll: 37% of Israelis willing to cede sovereignty in Jerusalem's holy sites
52% of Israeli Jews willing to change Jerusalem's status as part of a permanent peace agreement with Palestinians.

Jerusalem solution not complex
The Palestinian Authority is paving a highway inside Israel's sovereign territory in "united" Jerusalem, our eternal capital.

Lieberman lays out J'lem plans
We are prepared to swap territories and populations," declared Yisrael Beitenu Chairman Avigdor Lieberman, during a tour with his faction of the City of David in Jerusalem Wednesday.

Two reports show "superbug" bacteria spread
Two drug-resistant "superbugs" are becoming more common across the United States including one that causes hard-to-treat ear infections in children. Another, called methicillin-resistant staph aureus or MRSA, killed an estimated 19,000 Americans in 2005 and made 94,000 seriously ill.

PALESTINIANS WON'T ATTEND ANNAPOLIS 10/17 on: Today at 08:33:09am
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull

Bush: Threat of World War III if Iran goes nuclear By Matt Spetalnick
Wed Oct 17, 2:33 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush warned on Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War III as he tried to shore up international opposition to Tehran amid Russian skepticism over its nuclear ambitions.


Bush was speaking a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has resisted Western pressure to toughen his stance over Iran's nuclear program, made clear on a visit to Tehran that Russia would not accept any military action against Iran.

At a White House news conference, Bush expressed hope Putin would brief him on his talks in Tehran and said he would ask him to clarify recent remarks on Iran's nuclear activities.

Putin said last week that Russia, which is building Iran's first atomic power plant, would "proceed from the position" that Tehran had no plans to develop nuclear weapons but he shared international concerns that its nuclear programs "should be as transparent as possible."

"The thing I'm interested in is whether or not he continues to harbor the same concerns that I do," Bush said. "When we were in Australia (in September), he reconfirmed to me that he recognizes it's not in the world's interest for Iran to have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon."

Bush, who has insisted he wants a diplomatic solution to the Iranian issue, is pushing for a third round of U.N. sanctions against Iran.

Russia, a veto-holding member of the Security Council, backed two sets of limited U.N. sanctions against Iran but has resisted any tough new measures.

Stepping up his rhetoric, Bush said a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a "dangerous threat to world peace."

"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," he said. "So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

PUTIN'S "SPECIAL MESSAGE"

Iran rejects accusations it is seeking to develop a nuclear bomb, saying it wants nuclear technology for peaceful civilian purposes such as power generation, and has refused to heed U.N. Security Council demands to halt sensitive uranium enrichment.

Chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani was quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency on Wednesday as saying that Putin had delivered a "special message" on its atomic program and other issues. No other details were given.

Putin's visit on Tuesday was watched closely because of Moscow's possible leverage in the Islamic Republic's nuclear standoff with the West. It was the first time a Kremlin chief went to Iran since Josef Stalin in 1943.

Asked about Putin's "special message," U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey said he was not aware of any deal or offer put forward by Moscow to Tehran over the nuclear program.

On Russian opposition to Caspian Sea states being used to launch attacks against Iran, Casey reiterated that Bush kept all his options on the table but that the United States was committed to the diplomatic path with Tehran

Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / THOUSANDS FLEE RUMBLING VOLCANO, BOILING LAKE 10/17 on: Today at 08:03:21pm
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/07_Earth_Chan...Kelud.volc.html


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: DANGEROUS TORNADOES TODAY 10/17 on: Today at 07:58:23pm
http://www.accuweather.com/news-blogs.asp?...;blog=community


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / MIDEAST SUMMIT LIKELY POSTPONED 10/17 on: Today at 07:32:54pm
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123960


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Joint Israeli, PA statement said to address 'all core issues'



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Israel is prepared to make a joint declaration with the Palestinians at the international peace conference scheduled to take place next month in Annapolis that will address the core issues of Jerusalem, refugees and permanent borders, a senior government official told Haaretz Wednesday. Palestinian officials demanded Israel commit to a timetable for negotiations.




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The senior source in Jerusalem said that U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is currently visiting the region, had reached an agreement with the Palestinians stating that "the declaration will address all core issues and point to certain avenues to be pursued through negotiation." The official added, however, that the declaration will not offer solutions to any of the aforementioned core issues.



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But Rice's dealings with the Palestinian leadership in Ramallah seems to have hit a bump, after she reportedly told the Palestinians that Israel will not commit to a timetable for negotiations. Palestinians sources also said that Israel will not have the so-called Right of Return - the Palestinian demand that they be allowed to return to Israel proper - mentioned in the document.




http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/914119.html

Bar Iran from nuclear arms to avoid World War III : Bush

AFP - Thursday, October 18WASHINGTON (AFP) - - President George W. Bush Wednesday warned Iran must be barred from nuclear weapons to avoid the prospect of "World War III," and dismissed suggestions of a US-Russia rift on the crisis.

Bush intervened hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin made a new proposal to end the nuclear crisis as he met Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for landmark talks in Tehran.

Iran's top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani meanwhile revealed he would hold new talks with EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana on Tuesday in Rome to search for a solution to the atomic standoff.

Bush upped US rhetoric at a White House news conference, warning the world must do more to isolate the Islamic Republic.

"We've got a leader in Iran .............

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/2007101...h-972e412.html

Israel cannot be destroyed, says former Mossad chief

Published: 10.17.07, 22:52 / Israel News



Former Mossad chief Ephraim Halevy said Wednesday that "(Russian President Vladimir) Putin is not interested in a nuclear Iran."


Speaking at an event organized by the Lander Institute, Halevy added that "Israel cannot be destroyed."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...461150,00.html

Netanyahu: Putin must know we are all united against nuclear Iran

Published: 10.18.07, 00:08 / Israel News
Opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu telephoned Ehud Olmert on Wednesday evening ahead of the prime minister's visit to Moscow on Thursday, and asked him to tell Russian President Vladimir Putin that "in Israel we are all united in believing that Iran must not obtain a nuclear weapon. ...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...461172,00.html

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18 Oct 07

Putin: Russia working on new nuclear weapons
Russia, said Putin, was working on new types of nuclear weapons: "We will develop missile technology including completely new strategic (nuclear) complexes… the work is continuing and continuing successfully."

Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that he had warned world leaders they must prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons "if you're interested in avoiding World War III."

Missionary who 'knew the risks' now scheduled for public execution in N. Korea
A campaign is under way by Voice of the Martyrs (VOM) to help secure the release of a North Korean missionary sentenced to a public execution.

Kansans for Life official lauds 107 count indictment against Kansas abortion mill
The 107 charges include late term abortions in direct violation of Kansas state law. Kansas District Attorney Phill Kline also charged the clinic with 23 felony counts of making a false writing, 27 misdemeanor counts of failure to maintain records and 29 misdemeanor counts of failure to determine viability.

Rome mayor set to win left's leadership
Projections showed Rome's mayor overwhelmingly winning a nationwide primary Sunday to become the leader of a new center-left party and the probable candidate for premier against conservative billionaire Silvio Berlusconi in the next general election.

Pope Names 23 New Cardinals
Pope Benedict XVI named 23 new cardinals on Wednesday, tapping two Americans, the Chaldean patriarch of Baghdad, and archbishops from four continents to join the elite ranks of the "princes" of the Roman Catholic Church.

Staph Infection Worries Close 21 Va. Schools
A county in southern Virginia closed its 21 schools on Wednesday to clean them to prevent the spread of a dangerous bacterial infection that killed a 17-year-old high school student, officials said.

Weak Dollar Allows Foreigners to Snap Up U.S. Firms
Bargain-hunting foreigners are snapping up U.S. companies at a record pace as the weak dollar, a growing trade imbalance and spiking oil prices spark a raid on America’s corporate assets.

Making a fresh start
Let us make a major leap of imagination and suppose that even though this scenario of the EU at "Year Zero" means we would not have a half-century of intra-European cooperation to draw on, the nations that today make up the EU would nevertheless be keen to adopt far-reaching joint policies.


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17 Oct 07

Japan and China lead flight from the dollar
Japan and China led a record withdrawl of foreign funds from the United States in August, heightening fears of a fresh slide in the dollar and a spike in US bond yields.

Bush opposes Turkish offensive
President Bush on Wednesday opposed Turkey's possible military offensive against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq. "We are making it very clear to Turkey that we don't think it is in their interest to send troops into Iraq," Bush said at a White House news conference.

Syria gives backing to possible Turkish incursion into Iraq
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday said he would support a Turkish incursion into northern Iraq against Kurdish rebels, as the parliament in Ankara met to vote for military action.

Turkey approves Iraq incursion plan
Turkey's parliament resoundingly approved a motion on Wednesday allowing troops to cross into northern Iraq to hunt down Kurdish rebels there, but its Western allies and Baghdad urged Ankara to refrain from military action.

Drug-Resistant Staph Germ's Toll Is Higher Than Thought
A dangerous germ that has been spreading around the country causes more life-threatening infections than public health authorities had thought and is killing more people in the United States each year than the AIDS virus, federal health officials reported yesterday.

Bush warns of World War III if Iran goes nuclear
US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that he had warned world leaders they must prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons "if you're interested in avoiding World War III."

Syrian Confirms Israel Destroyed Nuclear Facility
A Syrian official has now admitted that the Israeli operation on September 6 destroyed a nuclear facility.

Self-Proclaimed Messiah Shot by Hamas
A Gaza man incurred the anger of a Hamas-affiliated preacher in Gaza Tuesday by claiming to be the Mahdi, or Muslim redeemer.

Poll: 37% of Israelis willing to cede sovereignty in Jerusalem's holy sites
52% of Israeli Jews willing to change Jerusalem's status as part of a permanent peace agreement with Palestinians.

Jerusalem solution not complex
The Palestinian Authority is paving a highway inside Israel's sovereign territory in "united" Jerusalem, our eternal capital.

Lieberman lays out J'lem plans
We are prepared to swap territories and populations," declared Yisrael Beitenu Chairman Avigdor Lieberman, during a tour with his faction of the City of David in Jerusalem Wednesday.

Two reports show "superbug" bacteria spread
Two drug-resistant "superbugs" are becoming more common across the United States including one that causes hard-to-treat ear infections in children. Another, called methicillin-resistant staph aureus or MRSA, killed an estimated 19,000 Americans in 2005 and made 94,000 seriously ill.

BUSH STEPS UP MIDEAST PEACE PUSH 10/18 on: Today at 10:50:37am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/ap_on_...DSJzy5sc1Ws0NUE


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / KURDS RALLY IN IRAQ AGAINST TURKISH INCURSION VOTE on: Today at 10:42:05am
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...L84186020071018


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / STORMS FROM GREAT LAKES TO THE GULF 10/18 on: Today at 10:39:15am
http://www.accuweather.com/news-top-headli...&traveler=0


4 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: DANGEROUS TORNADOES TODAY 10/17 on: Today at 10:35:00am
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/weather/10/18/m...orms/index.html

18 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: DROUGHT IN SOUTHEAST...DIRE 10/16 on: Today at 07:44:07am
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Confirming what many farmers, boaters and others already knew, the government reported Tuesday that the drought parching much of the West and Southeast spread into the Mid-Atlantic area in September.


Water levels at Lake Carter, about 90 miles north of Atlanta, Georgia, are at record lows.

At the end of September about 43 percent of the contiguous United States was in moderate to extreme drought, the National Climate Data Center said Tuesday. Worldwide, meanwhile, the agency said the year to date has been the warmest on record for land. It has been the seventh warmest year so far over the oceans, working out to the fourth warmest overall worldwide.

But drought is probably the greatest concern in many parts of the country and the year to date has been the driest on record for Tennessee and North Carolina. The eastern seaboard from Maine to the Carolinas and across parts of Florida was unusually dry in September, NCDC said. And the September dryness extended across the Ohio Valley and into the southern Great Lakes.

The agency, a division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said drier-than-normal weather was also experienced in September across parts of the Pacific Northwest and northern Plains.

Drought-related conditions included:

• As of September 25, Pasadena, California, experienced its driest year since records began in 1878. Many California communities imposed water use restrictions.

• The Great Lakes, which together make up about 20 percent of the world's fresh surface water, have been in decline since the late 1990s. Lakes Huron and Michigan were about two feet below their long-term average levels, while Lake Superior was about 20 inches off, Lake Ontario 7 inches below and Lake Erie a few inches down.

• Maryland and Pennsylvania had about half of their counties under a drought watch. Many areas in upstate New York reported record low reservoir levels and dried-up wells and farm ponds.

• Alabama Power, the state's largest utility, has been operating some of its coal plants at significantly reduced levels to avoid raising water temperatures in the Coosa, Black Warrior and Mobile rivers.

• The Tennessee Valley Authority shut down Browns Ferry Unit II nuclear power plant due to inadequate stream flow.

• At the end of September, the Georgia Environmental Protection Division declared a level four drought response across the northern third of the state, which prohibits most types of outdoor residential water use. Watch drought conditions in Georgia »

The report said that while September was only the eighth warmest month on record for the United States, it was still hot enough to break 1,000 daily high records across the country.

With the worldwide warming, the extent of Arctic Sea ice reached its lowest amount in September since satellite measurements began in 1979, shattering the previous record low set in 2005.



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7 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / OIL EYES RECORD HIGH $89 10/18 on: Today at 08:40:33am
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNe...P10407020071018


8 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / DOLLAR FALLS TO RECORD LOW 10/18 on: Today at 08:37:11am
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNe...183579520071018


9 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / RABBIS STUNNED....10/18 on: Today at 08:27:38am
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123964


10 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: PUTIN VISITS IRAN...SENDS WARNINGS TO US 10/16 on: Today at 08:23:31am
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull


13 Christian Fellowship: / General Topics / GOD IS SPEAKING LOUDLY TO THE JEWS...by Jerry Golden 10/18 on: Today at 08:10:51am
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysn...?a=1186&z=1


14 Christian Fellowship: / End Time Topics / ISRAEL WARNS A WWIII MAY BE BIBLICAL WAR OF GOG & MAGOG 10/18 on: Today at 08:09:00am
Israel Warns A World War III May Be Biblical War of Gog & Magog
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123961

Israeli TV Stations Showing 'Gog and Magog' Charts

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/134881

from fivedoves

Russians: Olmert Failed to Persuade Putin

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(IsraelNN.com) Russian sources said Friday that the attempts by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to convince Russia's leaders of the necessity of a military strike against Iran did not, and will not, succeed. "Washington and other Western capitals failed to change the Russian viewpoint, according to which there is no proof that Iran's nuclear program is headed in a military direction," the Russian sources said...............


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...sh.aspx/134987

19 Oct 07


Upsurge in nostalgia breaks down taboo over Third Reich
One in four Germans believes that the Nazis had their good side, according to an extraordinary opinion survey published in Berlin yesterday.

Democrats advance pro-homosexual bill
Democrats on Thursday sent to the full House legislation that would prohibit workplace discrimination against homosexuals and bisexuals, despite bitter complaints from some because transgendered workers would not be protected under the bill.

Bloomington bans Bible, but welcomes Buddha
Buddha is welcome but the Bible is banned at the Bloomington, Ind., city hall after officials booted a display of the Ten Commandments erected by Christians wanting equal treatment with the Far East religion promoted by the Dalai Lama.

Putin Warns U.S. Over Missile Shield
President Vladimir Putin warned the United States on Thursday that Russia could take retaliatory measures if Washington failed to take heed of its concerns over a missile defense shield in Europe.
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/putin_m...0/18/42189.html

Blair accuses Iran of fuelling 'deadly ideology' of militant Islam
In his first major speech since leaving office, Mr Blair said that Iran was prepared to destabilise peaceful countries in support of the "deadly ideology" driving Muslim extremism.

Kelly: Al-Qaida associates in N.J.
Osama bin Laden may be hiding in the impenetrable mountains near the Afghanistan border, but FBI counterterror officials say they have identified several of his associates in a far more accessible spot -- northern New Jersey.

Israel Warns World War III May be Biblical War of Gog and Magog
(IsraelNN.com) US President George W. Bush said a nuclear Iran would mean World War III. Israeli newscasts featured Gog & Magog maps of the likely alignment of nations in that potential conflict. Channel 2 and Channel 10 TV showed the world map, sketching the basic alignment of the two opposing axes in a coming world war, in a manner evoking associations of the Gog and Magog prophecy for many viewers. The prophecy of Gog and Magog refers to a great world war centered on the Holy Land and Jerusalem and first appears in the book of Yechezkel (Ezekiel).
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123961

Moon Documentary Bears Witness of a Creator
LONDON -- A film documenting the Apollo moon project using rare footage from NASA contains numerous spiritual references pointing to the existence of God.

Likud official infers Temple Mount not Jewish holy place
The head of the Likud Party's foreign relations department gave a massive boost to the claims of Islam - Israel's most implacable enemy - Tuesday when he inferred that Jerusalem's Temple Mount was not sacred to the Jewish people.


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18 Oct 07

Atheists offended by 'godly' instruction
Sue over district program suggesting 'spiritual' element

Dollar Hits Now Low Against Euro
Dollar Drops to All-Time Low Against Euro on Weak Economic News From Washington

Putin: Russia working on new nuclear weapons
Russia, said Putin, was working on new types of nuclear weapons: "We will develop missile technology including completely new strategic (nuclear) complexes… the work is continuing and continuing successfully."

Missionary who 'knew the risks' now scheduled for public execution in N. Korea
A campaign is under way by Voice of the Martyrs (VOM) to help secure the release of a North Korean missionary sentenced to a public execution.

Kansans for Life official lauds 107 count indictment against Kansas abortion mill
The 107 charges include late term abortions in direct violation of Kansas state law. Kansas District Attorney Phill Kline also charged the clinic with 23 felony counts of making a false writing, 27 misdemeanor counts of failure to maintain records and 29 misdemeanor counts of failure to determine viability.

Rome mayor set to win left's leadership
Projections showed Rome's mayor overwhelmingly winning a nationwide primary Sunday to become the leader of a new center-left party and the probable candidate for premier against conservative billionaire Silvio Berlusconi in the next general election.

Pope Names 23 New Cardinals
Pope Benedict XVI named 23 new cardinals on Wednesday, tapping two Americans, the Chaldean patriarch of Baghdad, and archbishops from four continents to join the elite ranks of the "princes" of the Roman Catholic Church.

Staph Infection Worries Close 21 Va. Schools
A county in southern Virginia closed its 21 schools on Wednesday to clean them to prevent the spread of a dangerous bacterial infection that killed a 17-year-old high school student, officials said.

Weak Dollar Allows Foreigners to Snap Up U.S. Firms
Bargain-hunting foreigners are snapping up U.S. companies at a record pace as the weak dollar, a growing trade imbalance and spiking oil prices spark a raid on America’s corporate assets.

Making a fresh start
Let us make a major leap of imagination and suppose that even though this scenario of the EU at "Year Zero" means we would not have a half-century of intra-European cooperation to draw on, the nations that today make up the EU would nevertheless be keen to adopt far-reaching joint policies.

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US, S Korea hold security talks

Seoul, Oct 19: South Korea and the United States held security talks Friday on their alliance, which faces drastic changes as Seoul moves to reduce its dependence on US troops.

The one-day meeting focused on the proposed relocation of US troops here and the question of Washington's wartime control over South Korea's military, a Defence Ministry spokesman said.

The US delegation included Sung Kim, head of the US State Department's Korea desk, who recently was in North Korea working on Pyongyang's nuclear disablement.

The security meeting also covered South Korea's proposal to play a greater role in controlling an inter-Korean buffer zone and 1,200 South Korean troops stationed in Iraq, Yonhap news agency said.

Washington still has wartime control over South Korea's military but has agreed to return this in 2012. The US-led United Nations Command also controls the southern side of the demilitarised zone, which bisects the peninsula.

South Korea's military involvement in Iraq is to finish at year's end. Washington has asked Seoul to extend the stay of its troops, but many South Korean legislators have expressed reservations over a second extension.

Despite various peace initiatives since their first summit in 2000, North and South Korea remain technically at war following the 1950-1953 conflict.

The US has tens of thousands of troops in South Korea since the end of the war. It currently has 29,500 troops supporting the South's 680,000-strong forces against any threat from North Korea's 1.1 million-member military.

In March, the two sides agreed to split roughly the USD 11 billion cost of relocating US troops, including moving most of them to a new base at Pyeongtaek, 70 km (40 miles) south of Seoul.

Washington plans to scale back its forces to 25,000 by 2008 as South Korea plays a bigger part in its own defence. The United States wants Seoul to pay a larger share in relocating military bases.

Bureau Report


Israel refuses to open talks with Lebanon over Shaba Farms

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Israel has refused a recommendation by a United Nations ambassador to begin negotiations with Lebanon over the disputed Shaba Farms area. According to the envoy, Geir Pedersen, the United Nations is becoming increasingly convinced that Shaba Farms belongs to Lebanon.

During a meeting recently with Amos Gilad, the head of the Political-Military Bureau at the Defense Ministry, Pedersen said that "the UN believes that there is merit in the Lebanese claims of sovereignty over Shaba Farms."

The Norwegian diplomat stressed it would be beneficial if Israel initiated negotiations over this issue.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/914670.html

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/914620.html

OLMERT VISITS RUSSIA ON IRAN TALKS

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Israeli, PA negotiators meet to match stance ahead of summit

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The Palestinian Authority's general chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat, said Thursday that Israeli and Palestinian negotiators have until the Democratic and Republican presidential conventions next summer to complete their talks.

The first stage begins now, he said, the period before the peace summit scheduled for next month in Annapolis, Maryland. The second stage would be the negotiations on a peace deal, and the final phase would be the implementation of the treaty.

"We have to reach a joint document, and not a peace treaty, on the core issues with specific parameters for solving these issues before convening the conference," Erekat said.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/914876.html

Jordan Iraq Assyra....king

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http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/6275303.html

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/116389.html

http://www.petra.gov.jo/nepras/2007/Sep/30/4000.htm

http://www.petra.gov.jo/nepras/2007/Oct/17/10000

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...rdan-Iraq.phpm

Christian Fellowship: / General Topics / HISTORY LESSON 10/19 on: Today at 12:39:13am
http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=me...roupID=AB0062RM


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / DOLLAR HITS NEW RECORD LOW 10/19 on: Today at 12:33:22am
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNe...183579520071019


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / BUSH ORDERS STRATEGY TO DEAL WITH CATASTROPHES 10/19 on: Today at 12:31:48am
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1839408220071019



AT SUCH A TIME AS YE THINK NOT....by Jack Kinsella 10/19 on: October 18, 2007, 11:53:47 PM
At Such A Time As Ye Think Not. . .
In Defense of the Faith
Thursday, October 18, 2007
Jack Kinsella - Omega Letter Editor

Since the turn of the century, the coming together of ancient prophecies of Scripture for the last days has increased exponentially, and so precisely, that even the secular world has begun to sit up and take notice.

Hal Lindsey's "Late, Great Planet Earth" made the New York Times best-seller list in 1970. When it was still on the best-seller list in 1976, 20th Century Fox decided it was time to give Bible prophecy the Hollywood treatment. In 1976, 20th Century Fox released "The Omen", a movie about a little boy named Damien who was born with a "666" birthmark and destined to become the antichrist.


The film capitalized on the sudden interest in Bible prophecy by mixing Scripture with stuff they made up to sound like Scripture, and Fox expected it to do well, but never expected it to be such a blockbuster that it ended up becoming a trilogy.


Hollywood lost interest in Bible prophecy until the mid-1990's when, sensing a re-emerging market for "end of days" themes, they released a whole flurry of movies, (including my personal favorite, "End of Days", in which Arnold Schwartzeneggar saves the world by defeating the antichrist in a fist fight).


As dates are reckoned, 2001 is the FIRST year of the 21st century, with the year 2000 being the last year of the 20th century.


It is worth noting that the dawn of the 21st century was more than just a way of marking the passage of another hundred-year unit of time. It marked the dawn of a literal "New Normal" as a consequence of September 11, 2001.


The world changed in first year of the 21st century -- and nothing has been normal since -- hence the phrase, the "New Normal."


In the "New Normal", anti-Americanism is the new patriotism. Political leaders like Dick Durban can compare US forces -- on the battlefield, in combat, in wartime -- to 'Nazis', and be defended by his Senate colleagues as 'a patriot'.


In the "New Normal" a Democratic member of the US Congress can make the statement that "good news from the Iraq battlefield is bad news for us," without fear of censure.


In the "New Normal" Hillary Clinton can be the front runner for President of the United States as the 'family values' candidate -- and Al Gore can win the Nobel Peace Prize for demanding the US submit to a UN global government.


In the "New Normal" -- the hedonistic Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco can advertise its annual Gay Pride party by mocking the Last Supper and enjoy the endorsement of the US Speaker of the House -- and the sponsorship of Miller Brewing Company, while the mainstream media pixelated the Danish Mohammed cartoons to avoid offending Muslims.


The Miller-sponsored ad featured a twisted version of Da Vinci's "Last Supper", substituting Jesus and the Apostles with men and women in various stages of leather dress/undress, (including a man wearing a black dog mask).


Sex toys, including a big red fist, are strewn across the table. Prominently on display in the left-hand corner of the ad — the Miller Lite sponsorship logo.


Speaker Nancy Pelosi commented dryly of the Folsom ad, that, "she didn't see anything in the ad that threatened the continued existence of Christianity." (Nancy wasn't shy about expressing her 'concern' at Danish 'insensitivity' over the Danish cartoons -- but that's acceptable in the "New Normal")


At the same time, niche filmmakers Peter and Paul Lalonde produced a series of films based on Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins book series that not only broke even at the box office, but has sold millions of copies on DVD.


Both Hal's LGPE and subsequently, Peter and Paul's films made a successful crossover into the secular market where they've been instrumental in leading untold millions to Christ.


Mel Gibson's independent production, "Passion of the Christ" (which I still haven't summoned up the courage to watch) broke box-office records.


There is a growing sense in the secular world that the world is mysteriously out of synch and rapidly running out of time. (Al Gore just won the Nobel Peace Prize for telling us that we're all doomed unless the US submits to a global government, for example.)


Then, too, there are the undeniable similarities between the events predicted by the Bible's prophets and the global scenario predicated by the imposition of the "New Normal" of the 21st century.


Twenty-five hundred years before it became a reality, the Hebrew prophets confidently predicted the existence of a Jewish state called "Israel" in the last days. They predicted that Jerusalem would occupy the center of global attention.


Even a hundred years ago, such a prediction seemed preposterous. Ancient Israel had been part of the Muslim Ottoman Empire for four hundred years. Few could point out Jerusalem on a map, fewer still even knew that it was a real city and not another lost city of the Bible.


The 20th century closed with the collapse of the Oslo Peace process, when Yasser Arafat broke off negotiations when Israel offered to give in to the majority of his territorial demands and grant the Palestinians unconditional statehood and started the still-raging Oslo War against Israel.


In the surreal environment of the "New Normal" the collapse was blamed on Israel, just as the prophet Zechariah predicted. When Israel surrendered Gaza, the Arabs used it to attack Israeli settlements -- so in response, the world put pressure on ISRAEL.


Although Israel's most basic red-line position since 1967 has been no negotiation over either Jerusalem or the Temple Mount, the prophet Zechariah predicted that Jerusalem would be divided one last time:


"Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city." (Zechariah 14:2-3)


Jerusalem has not left the headlines since Ehud Olmert announced Israel's willingness to divide Jerusalem with the Palestinians as a shared capital and grant Jordan sovereignty over the Temple Mount in exchange for peace.


The prophet Ezekiel predicted, 2500 years ago, that at that point in history when Israel was again numbered among the pantheon of nations, that a nation called "Gog" would reluctantly ally itself with an alliance of nations -- that comprise the modern Islamic world -- led by Persia, that would launch an invasion against Israel.


A straight line north from Jerusalem goes right through the center of Moscow. And in 1925, the ancient nation of "Persia" formally changed its name to "Iran."


(At present, the world is holding its collective breath waiting to see what Moscow's reaction will be to the virtually-certain impending Israeli attack on the Russian-made nuclear facilities inside Iran.)


Indeed, since the dawn of the "New Normal" and the seemingly accelerated pace of unfolding Bible prophecy since, some Christians believe the anti-christ is already in power and that the Tribulation has already begun. Others are busy calculating the day when it will begin.


Every year of the 21st century has seen some new prediction of the Rapture during Rosh Hashana or Yom Kippur, and every October of the 21st century has seen a flurry of emails explaining where their calculations were out and explaining why it will be NEXT year at Rosh Hashana or Yom Kippur.


In the "New Normal" its perfectly acceptable for Christians to defy Jesus' admonition against date-setting, and nobody seems to hold it against them when they are consistently wrong.


Jesus explained in a parable WHY God imposed a prohibition on date-setting, and why nobody can calculate the day or the hour of the Rapture:


"And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through." (Luke 21:39)


It is perfectly logical. If the Rapture's date could be calculated, nobody would clean up their act until the last minute. The lost would circle the day on their calendar, confident they had plenty of time to repent, or as the Prince song put it; "they're gonna party like it's 1999."


That's human nature -- but salvation comes by putting on the nature of Christ. By faith. Not because of a looming deadline.


In reading through the daily news, I admit that I sometimes marvel that I am still here to report it. And I wonder, (as you do, no doubt), "How long, Lord?" -- but in so doing, I miss the point.


When the Rapture happens, the door of opportunity for salvation for those who heard the Gospel but put it off until 'later' slams shut forever.


The Scriptures say that "the Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2nd Peter 3:9)


The Lord is holding the door open deliberately, to give us once last chance to fulfill our Great Commission and to give the lost one last chance to embrace the Gospel.


The Rapture could happen tomorrow, or the Lord could put all these events on hold for another decade. It isn't so much delaying His coming for the Church, as it is about giving us all every chance possible, according to His promise.


The Lord IS coming. All of the evidence says so, and, viewed from the perspective of the "New Normal," if He doesn't return soon, there may not be surviving Christians left to Rapture.


But we can be sure that He will delay His return for the last possible moment. We don't know when that moment is, but we know this, from our Lord Himself:


"Therefore, be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." (Matthew 24:44)


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ROBERTS TAKING INDEFINITE LEAVE OF ABSENCE 10/18 on: October 18, 2007, 05:42:52 PM
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/ WHAT PUTIN'S HISTORIC VISIT TO IRAN MEANS 10/18 on: October 18, 2007, 04:58:35 PM
WHAT PUTIN'S HISTORIC VISIT TO IRAN MEANS

Washington leaders are asking if unfolding events in the Mideast were foretold in the Bible.

By Joel C. Rosenberg

(Washington, D.C., October 18, 2007) -- Sobering, apocalyptic talk from President Bush yesterday. During a press briefing at the White House, the President was asked about Vladimir Putin's visit with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Tehran and the threat posed by this emerging Russian-Iranian nuclear alliance. The President warned that World War III could break out if Iran gets nuclear weapons.

Here is an excerpt from the official transcript: "I believe that if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be a dangerous threat to world peace. We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel. So I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

As the President was speaking to reporters at the White House, I had the privilege of speaking to a group of military leaders at the Pentagon on what Putin's historic and unprecedented trip to Iran means, and how Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's eschatology is driving Iranian foreign policy.

The event was off-the-record, meaning I'm not at liberty to share who was in the meeting or any of the specific details. But I can tell you that I gave a condensed version of the same information I've been speaking about publicly in recent weeks. I will be speaking on the same topic on Capitol Hill today with a group of Congressmen who have invited me to discuss the latest events with Putin and Ahmadinejad and what they might mean.

Here's an executive summary:

* To misunderstand the nature and threat of evil is to risk being blindsided by it. A new evil is rising in the world. Ahmadinejad is the new Hitler. Putin is a new Czar. Yet the West seems to be asleep to the implications of this dangerous new alliance.

* Ahmadinejad is a devout Shia Muslim. He began telling colleagues when he was first elected in the summer of 2005 that the end of the world was just two or three years away. He said the way to hasten the coming of the Islamic Messiah known as the "Mahdi" or the "Twelfth Imam" or the "Hidden Imam" is to annihilate two countries -- Israel, which he says is the "little Satan," and the United States, which he says is the "Great Satan."

* In September 2005, Ahmadinejad concluded his address to the U.N. by praying that Allah would hasten the coming of the Mahdi.

* Ahmadinejad returned to Iran after that speech and told Shia clerics that as he had spoken at the U.N. he had been surrounded by a halo of light, and that for 27 or 28 minutes not a single person in the General Assembly hall had even blinked, so mesmerized were they -- he said -- but what Allah was saying through him.

* In October 2005, Ahmadinejad gave his famous speech vowing to wipe Israel off the map. In the same speech, he urged the Muslim world to envision a world without the United States, and said this is possible -- a world without America and Zionism -- "when our holy hatred strikes like a wave."

* In December 2005, Russia signed a $1 billion arms deal with Iran, selling high-speed missiles to the Ahmadinejad regime, on top of billions of dollars worth of other arms, submarines, and nuclear technology in recent years.

* In September 2006, Ahmadinejad returned to the U.N. and again concluded his address by praying for Allah to hasten the coming of the Mahdi. Throughout 2006 and 2007, he has continued to give regular speeches denouncing Israel and assuring Muslims that the Jewish State will soon "vanish."

* In August 2007, Ahmadinejad began shifting gears. He was no longer saying that the end of the world was two or three years away. Now he was saying the return of the Mahdi was "imminent."

* In September 2007, Ahmadinejad again spoke at the U.N., as well as at Columbia University in New York City. This time, rather than ending his speeches with a prayer, he began both speeches by asking Allah to hasten the coming of the Mahdi.

* For the past two years, Ahmadinejad has been feverishly trying to build, buy or steal nuclear weapons. He has specifically been building alliances with three nuclear powers, Russia, China and North Korea, in pursuit of his genocidal objectives.

* Despite the apocalyptic rhetoric coming out of Tehran, the military, political and economic relationship between Russia and Iran has intensified dramatically over the past two years. Putin doesn't seem bothered by the talk of genocide. Putin and Ahmadinejad have met regularly. Putin's visit this week to Iran was the first by a Russian leader since 1943.

* Putin didn't meet only with Ahmadinejad in Iran. He also held a summit with the leaders of several Central Asian/Caspian Sea nations and issued a threat to the U.S. not to intervene militarily to stop Iran's nuclear program.

* No one is entirely certain why Putin is building an alliance with such radical Islamic regimes. Russia is certainly making billions of dollars from their arms and nuclear deals. Putin clearly wants to rebuild the glory of Mother Russia. He is becoming a Czar, centralizing power to himself and now saying he will step down as president in 2008 but stay in power as prime minister.

* As an emerging Czar, Putin wants to expand Russia's borders and influence. But he can't go West, because NATO is moving East. Putin can't go East because he borders a nuclear China. He recently claimed sovereignty over the North Pole. But his real opportunity to build a global, anti-Western empire lies to the South. So Putin is feverishly working to build alliances with Islamic and Arab powers, including Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Libya, Algeria, and several Central Asian states, as well as Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world.

* Still, given Russia's experience in Chechnya, it doesn't really make sense that Russia would arm radical Islamic nations, or help them go nuclear.

* The Bible offers an intriguing clue to what could be happening. In Ezekiel 38-39, the Hebrew Prophet Ezekiel foretold a Russian-Iranian alliance that would form with a group of other North African, Middle Eastern, and Central Asian states in what the Bible calls "the last days." For most of the past 2,500 years since the prophecy was writtten, this had never happened. But it seems to be happening now.

* No one knows exactly when these prophecies will be fulfilled in their entirely. I certainly do not. My 2005 political thriller, The Ezekiel Option, was a fictional look at how these prophecies might play out, if they were to play in my lifetime. Epicenter is a non-fiction look (both the book and the documentary film) at these prophecies and the current dynamics in Russia, Iran and the rest of the region. It considers the possibility that we might actually be closer to the fulfillment of these prophecies that anyone in the political, business or media worlds has expected.

* One curious development worth noting: Ezekiel 36 and 37 have already come true in our lifetime. These are the famous prophecies that say that in the end times, Israel will be reborn as a nation, Jews will pour back into the Holy Land after centuries of exile, they will make the deserts bloom, they will rebuild the ancient ruins, and have an "exceedingly great army." Since these dramatic events have already happened, it begs the question: Could Ezekiel 38-39 -- what Bible scholars call the "War of Gog and Magog" -- also come true in our lifetime? This remains to be seen. But current events are raising lots of intriguing questions.

As I write in Epicenter, I am not trying to persuade people that these events are coming to pass soon. I'm trying to raise awareness of the threats we face as Americans, the threats our friends in Israel face, and the threats that everyone in the "epicenter" faces --, Jews, Muslims and Christians alike. I'm trying to make people aware of prophecies that intrigue me personally, and that may have relevance for our time. And I'm trying to motivate people to do more to care for the needs of the suffering and threatened people of the epicenter, specifically through the work of The Joshua Fund, the non-profit group that Lynn and I launched last year.

While I cannot say whether people in the Pentagon or Congress or the White House share my views, I am both intrigued and grateful that they are interested and have invited me to share my perspective.

At this moment in history, let us pray faithfully and earnestly for our political and military leaders, as well for the leaders in Israel, Russia, Iran and the epicenter. As the Apostle Paul wrote in I Timothy 2:1-4: "First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity. This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
novembercommunications@ixs1.net

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3461758,00.html

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1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / PAKISTAN PLANS ALL OUT WAR AGAINST MILITANTS 10/19 on: Today at 10:15:37am
http://atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IJ19Df01.html


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: STORMS FROM GREAT LAKES TO THE GULF 10/18 on: Today at 08:35:06am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_...vere_weather_18


4 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / TURKEY PRESSURES IRAQ 10/19 on: Today at 08:29:56am
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...354608620071019

Iran to fire '11,000 rockets in minute' if attacked

Oct 20 07:28 AM US/Eastern

Bush Warns of ‘WWIII’ if Iran Goes Nuclea


Iran warned on Saturday it would fire off 11,000 rockets at enemy bases within the space of a minute if the United States launched military action against the Islamic republic.
"In the first minute of an invasion by the enemy, 11,000 rockets and cannons would be fired at enemy bases," said a brigadier general in the elite Revolutionary Guards, Mahmoud Chaharbaghi.

"This volume and speed of firing would continue," added Chaharbaghi, who is commander of artillery and missiles of the Guards' ground forces, according to the semi-official Fars news agency.

The United States has never ruled out attacking Iran to end its defiance over the controversial Iranian nuclear programme, which the US alleges is aimed at making nuclear weapons but Iran insists is entirely peaceful.

Iran has for its part vowed never to initiate an attack but has also warned of a crushing response to any act of aggression against its soil.

"If a war breaks out in the future, it will not last long because we will rub their noses in the dirt," said Chaharbaghi.

"Now the enemy should ask themselves how many of their people they are ready to have sacrificed for their stupidity in attacking Iran," he said.

Iranian officials have repeatedly warned the military would target the bases of US forces operating in neighbouring Iraq and Afghanistan in the event of any attack and already has these sites under close surveillance.

Chaharbaghi said that the Guards would soon receive "rockets with a range of 250 kilometres (155 miles)" whereas the current range of its rockets is 150 kilometres (91 miles).

"We have identified our targets and with a close surveillance of targets, we can respond to the enemy's stupidity immediately," Chaharbaghi added.

He said that the Guards' weapons were spread out throughout the country and so would not be affected by any isolated US strikes against military facilities.

The Guards are Iran's elite ideological army and responsible for its most significant weapons such as the longer range Shahab-3 missile which has Israel and US bases in the Middle East within its range.





China's Hu in control of rapidly modernising military

Oct 19 10:42 PM US/Eastern

Behind Closed Doors, China Sets Strategic Course


After five years in power, President Hu Jintao has finally gained unquestioned control of China's massive military while transforming it into wealthy, high-tech fighting force, analysts said.
Although Hu was named Communist Party chief in 2002 and president in 2003, he did not inherit the mantle of commander-in-chief until a year later and questions had lingered over who commanded the allegiance of the country's rapidly modernising, 2.3-million-strong People's Liberation Army.

But key military appointments by Hu in the run-up to the five-yearly Communist Party Congress that is due to end Sunday in Beijing should help dispel any questions, experts said.

They include a new general chief of staff, the PLA's highest uniformed position, and new commanders of its naval and air forces.

"It looks like he has full control over personnel now. He has continued to raise the military budget and will continue that. He's well established in power now," said Arthur Ding, a Chinese military expert at Singapore's Nanyang Technology University.

Hu's military priorities were shown in the selection of General Chen Bingde as general chief of staff, observers said.

Chen previously directed the unit that controlled the country's fast-developing space programme, and was a top commander of eastern China forces viewed as crucial to a potential conflict with Taiwan.


"(Chen's selection) was a tough signal to Taiwan and it emphasises the military's modernisation in the high-tech era," said Cheng Li, a scholar with the US Brookings Institution.

Hu's predecessor, Jiang Zemin, upped spending to lift the PLA from a backward, bloated force to a modern military, and Hu has taken the baton with gusto.

The armed forces received 45 billion dollars in funding this year, an annual 17.8 percent increase and Hu has promised more in future years.

The spending has opened new high-tech vistas for the former peasant force.

Last year it unveiled an advanced new homegrown fighter and in January made China only the third country to successfully test a satellite-killer missile, among other new high-tech toys.

"China's technology level is still below that of the United States and Europe, but they are making steady progress," said Kevin Pollpeter, a China military expert at the US-based Centre for Intelligence Research and Analysis.

Questions over Hu's command of the military stemmed from his failure to take the mantle of CMC chairman upon becoming president in 2003.

Jiang surrendered that post a year later, but his appointees remained in top posts.

Experts say there was little risk of the military not obeying Hu up to now.

The PLA once occupied a central political role and wielded huge economic muscle through a massive, and now-disbanded, business empire.


But although the PLA was born of the Communist Party, it is apolitical now, Pollpeter said.

"The PLA is increasingly satisfied to remain a professional military that does not get involved in domestic politics. They realise they have a lot of work to do to make themselves into a modern force and getting into politics only distracts from that," he said.

Still, concern over PLA allegiance remains valid, especially as unrest grows in China over widening wealth disparity, corruption and other ills, said a Western military attache in Beijing.

He pointed out that similar issues gave rise to the 1989 Tiananmen Square demonstrations, which the PLA violently suppressed.

"What if there is another Tiananmen? Or China gets embroiled in a military conflict? Anything can happen and the PLA could move back to something like its former prominence," the attache said.



Putin tells Israel to take a hike

By Stan Goodenough
October 19, 2007

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's personally-delivered plea Thursday for Russian President Vladimir Putin to support international sanctions against a nuclear-bomb-chasing Iran fell on deaf ears.

Just hours after the two leaders emerged from a three-hour meeting in the Kremlin and Olmert flew home, Putin revealed he had been unmoved by the visit, declaring he remained opposed to economically strong-arming Tehran into changing course.

He earlier let Olmert know Russia also rejected a military solution to the standoff, saying he preferred to engage the Iranians in "constructive dialogue."

The Russian's intransigence on Iran is understood to be in line with his plans to re-establish his country's Soviet-era influence over the Middle East.

Western analysts say Putin has megalomanic ambitions; that he is maneuvering in readiness to declare himself Czar of a Russia allied with a number of internationally-blacklisted states, including North Korea, Iran and Syria.

Olmert's suddenly announced decision to pay a one-day visit to Moscow came a day after Putin made a state visit to Tehran, during which the Russian let it be known he had seen no evidence the mullahs were pursuing nuclear weapons.

But Putin’s assertion that the world needed to dialogue with Iran to stop it from going down the wrong nuclear road gave the lie to that statement.

Not all Israel's Knesset members were pleased with their prime minister. The Likud's Silvan Shalom said Friday morning the visit had humiliated Israel.

Speaking on Israel Radio, Shalom said Olmert had run in a panic to Putin the day after his return from Iran, thereby messaging Russia that the Jewish state wanted to maintain close ties in spite of Moscow's position on Iran.

http://www.jnewswire.com/article/2193


Analyst says Olmert put military option on Putin's table

By Stan Goodenough
October 19, 2007

As war words swirled around the Middle East this week, a respected analyst for the Israeli daily The Jerusalem Post wrote Friday that in his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin Thursday Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had put the military option against Iran on the table.

Whereas Olmert had, at a meeting with Putin a year ago, alluded at the possibility of such an option, the Israeli this week let it be known that it exists.

Wrote Keinon: "Olmert ... went [to Moscow this time] to underscore Israel's sense of urgency in taking action now."

According to an official in Olmert's entourage, the two leaders extensively discussed the Iranian nuclear issue in a three-hour meeting that was almost entirely held in private.

Keinon recalled Olmert's words to Putin on October 18, 2006 when the Israeli told the KGB officer made president Iran had better reverse its nuclear course or "something will happen to them that they don't want."

http://www.jnewswire.com/article/2194

Ready for nuke cooperation with other nations

Iranian foreign minister says Teheran ready for collaboration 'with peaceful purpose'
Reuters


Iran is ready to establish nuclear energy cooperation with other countries, based on the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran's foreign minister said on Friday.




He was speaking during a visit to the western Afghan city of Herat for a conference of the Economic Cooperation Organization.



"Under the watch of the agency (the IAEA), the Islamic Republic of Iran is prepared to cooperate with other countries in the nuclear field with a peaceful purpose," Manouchehr Mottaki said when a journalist asked if Iran was prepared to cooperate on nuclear energy with ECO member countries.



"...I emphasize that this (cooperation) will have to be in the framework of the supervision of the international atomic agency," he added.




The United States and some of its Western allies have accused Tehran of trying to build a nuclear bomb and have imposed economic sanctions. Iran says its nuclear ambitions are peaceful.



Earlier this week, Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Teheran and rejected Western claims regarding Iran's nuclear intentions. The Russian leader said his country had no information about Iranian attempts to produce nuclear weapons.

1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Ahmadinejad has laid down the gauntlet 10/20 on: Today at 07:54:21am
http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1308


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / TURKEY EXPECTS US TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST KURDISH REBELS 10/20 on: Today at 07:50:01am
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL2022794920071020


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Air Force fires commanders over nuclear mix-up 10/20 on: Today at 07:48:23am
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1930047820071019


4 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / IRAN'S ATOMIC STANCE MAY HARDEN....10/20 on: Today at 07:43:01am
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL2022934420071020

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