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Source: U.S. Strike on Iran Nearing A number of signs indicate that, contrary to the belief President Bush is a lame duck who will not act before he leaves office, the U.S. is poised to strike before Iran can acquire nuclear weapons and carry out the threat of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to “wipe Israel off the map”:
According to intelligence sources, the administration now rejects the National Intelligence Estimate report issued in December that asserted Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in late 2003.
The French daily Le Monde reported in March that newly surfaced documents show that Iran has continued developing nuclear weapons. In late 2006, U.S. intelligence reportedly intercepted a phone conversation in Iran’s Defense Ministry in which the nuclear weapons program was discussed.
The commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, Admiral William Fallon, resigned in March amid media reports that he broke with President Bush’s strategy on Iran and did not want to be in the chain of command when the order comes down from the President to launch a strike on the Islamic Republic.
Democrats suggested he had been forced out because of his candor in opposing Bush’s Iran plans, and Esquire magazine contended that Fallon’s departure signaled that the U.S. is preparing to attack Iran.
According to a Tehran-based Iranian news network, Press TV, Saudi Arabia is taking emergency steps in preparing to counter any “radioactive hazards” that may result from an American attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.
The Saudi newspaper Okaz disclosed that the Saudi government has approved nuclear fallout preparations, and the Iranian network reported that the approval came a day after Cheney met with the kingdom’s high-ranking officials, further stating that the U.S. “is now informing its Arab allies of a potential war.”
The American commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has stepped up criticism of Iran, telling Congress last week that Iranian support for Shiite militias posed the most serious threat to Iraq’s stability. He told senators : “Iran has fueled the violence in a particularly damaging way.” Last week, the U.S. said Iran was providing insurgents with missiles that were killing Americans and hitting targets within the U.S. occupied Green Zone in Baghdad.
MSNBC Commentator Pat Buchanan said Petraeus’ remarks to Congress lay the groundwork for a U.S. attack on Iran.
President Bush said in a speech at the White House on April 10 that Iran, along with al-Qaida, are “two of the greatest threats to America.”
He said Iran “can live in peace with its neighbors,” or “continue to arm and train and fund illegal militant groups which are terrorizing the Iraqi people … If Iran makes the wrong choice, America will act to protect our interests and our troops and our Iraqi partners.”
He later told ABC News that if Iran continues to help militants in Iraq, “then we’ll deal with them.”
Members of Congress are said to have been briefed by the administration about the rising Iran threat.
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Get your disaster event gear ready folks.
This just may be the spark that sets the middle east on fire
Oy veh! Here we go folks. It's up & away or bye-bye.....
Anything is possible in this day and age, I pray for wisdom in our leaders choices.... However, the Bible has definitely laid out that Persia (Iran) and Russia (?Gog) will be partners in the last days. It seems to me that they have definitely made some serious steps in that direction!
Read an article today that the SECDEF said on CBS that an attack against Iran was not in the offing, so I'd not read too much into these little "the sky is falling" articles. If the US were to conduct any form of military action against the Iranian regime, it would most likely be covert in form, and we would deny any involvement.
Rumors are Israel will attack Syria and the US will attack Iran. If so, Isaiah 17 will be fulfilled.
Many also believe that Isaiah 18 is speaking of the USA. That could very well be possible. If it is, we are in for it (!!!) if we aren't raptured first. Only God knows for sure what His plans for America are.
But if Isaiah 17 comes to pass very soon, and Isaiah 18 is indeed the USA, we are going HOME real soon.
War and rumors of war. There seem to be more and more rumors of war everyday. And I know that now they are just that, rumors. But with every thing that is going on right now, every thing that is in place, one of these days, and I think sooner than later, the rumors are going to come to fruition. Of course only God knows, and He is in total control. All we can do is watch, wait, pray and witness to others.
Read an article today that the SECDEF said on CBS that an attack against Iran was not in the offing, so I'd not read too much into these little "the sky is falling" articles. If the US were to conduct any form of military action against the Iranian regime, it would most likely be covert in form, and we would deny any involvement.
I wonder at this point in the game what a covert op would be good for? And what the point would be in denying it if it were to happen. Granted, if Ahmadinejad were taken out via some isolated coup and innocent lives were spared that would be ideal. But even so, with all the rhetoric I don't think anyone could deny that the US was behind it...at least the world would assume that was so.
I think there's too much "dealing with Iran" talk going on in all facets to go in and try to make people think we were surprised by some coup and had no involvement. And regardless of whether we deny involvement, Iran will retaliate if something happens and then our hand will be forced eventually.
IMO..I think those who have the final say (humanly speaking) already know what's going to happen, but it's still wise to allow a little confusion in the media to keep from showing our actual hand. And with the way the events of these days seem to be coming together, I honestly believe it is only God's grace that is holding off the trigger event that will send everything into full on prophetic tribulation.
You can almost hear the 4 horsemen's horses snorting and stamping there feet at the gate just aching for the gate to open to run the race they were destined too...
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I wonder how Russia will respond if we do?
I wonder at this point in the game what a covert op would be good for? And what the point would be in denying it if it were to happen. Granted, if Ahmadinejad were taken out via some isolated coup and innocent lives were spared that would be ideal. But even so, with all the rhetoric I don't think anyone could deny that the US was behind it...at least the world would assume that was so.
It would serve to forestall Iran's nuclear development at best, for a short while. At worst, it would serve to further destabilize an already volatile region. Frankly, I believe that unless we could successfully execute covert operations designed to destabilize and discredit the current Iranian regime, we should leave the military out of it. If the US overtly attacks Iran, all bets are off, and nothing is gained except to further erode the US sway on the world stage. Teddy Roosevelt once counseled us to speak softly and carry a big stick, not to swing it about wildly like a madman while we wear ourselves down into obscurity and irrelevance.
Frankly, I believe that unless we could successfully execute covert operations designed to destabilize and discredit the current Iranian regime, we should leave the military out of it.
I agree.
We are not only spread thin right now, but it would further destabilize the area and confirm to the world that we are aggressors - pre-emptively striking anyone we have a beef with.
It would serve to forestall Iran's nuclear development at best, for a short while. At worst, it would serve to further destabilize an already volatile region.
This region has been volatile for years and years. And, those of us that know prophecy, and biblical history know that the US is not really the culprit.
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If the US overtly attacks Iran, all bets are off, and nothing is gained except to further erode the US sway on the world stage.
And.....our "sway" isn't already "eroded"? We are the only nation that stood up to islamic terrorism, and (for the most part) for Israel. That is what God instructs us to do. And, if that makes us unpopular, then so be it. Jesus was not popular, but He was "right".
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Teddy Roosevelt once counseled us to speak softly and carry a big stick, not to swing it about wildly like a madman while we wear ourselves down into obscurity and irrelevance.
Teddy didn't live in the world we live in today. I think he might have a different saying in the dynamics of the world stage.
We are the only nation that stood up to islamic terrorism, and (for the most part) for Israel. That is what God instructs us to do. And, if that makes us unpopular, then so be it.
Please point out in the Bible where God instructed the United States to wage war against nations that threatened Israel.
Please point out in the Bible where God instructed the United States to wage war against nations that threatened Israel.
Oh please. We've been through this before. We are instructed to take care of Israel....to bless her. That also means PROTECT her.
Please point out in the Bible where God instructed the United States to wage war against nations that threatened Israel.
That and it seems like Israel has only interest in giving into Islamic terrorism these days.
Yes, we have been through this before. Wherein the Bible does one find a requirement for the United States to take care of Israel? As to blessing Israel, how does one make the leap from that to waging open warfare on nations that verbally threaten Israel?
That is where you take it upon yourself to limit God's definition of "blessing". And, Iran is already attacking Israelis through Hamas, just like they are our forces in Iraq.
So, it has gone further than "verbal" threats, already, and it has been for some time now.
Again, if we attack Iran, what is accomplished? What are the second and third-order effects of such an attack, in your opinion, and upon what do you base your opinion?
Obviously, what will be accomplished is a dictatorial regime with sinister schemes and threats being done away with. And you'll notice that the attack plans that have been discussed are not with the desire to inflict mass casualty, but to target this regime's leadership as well as it's means of possibly carrying out it's attacks it threatens.
If it could be accomplished diplomatically it would have been done by now I'm sure. But to this day Iran continues it's threats of wiping people off the earth. Not in calculated attacks to destroy a leadership or certain infrastructures, but WHOLE peoples.
And His Always says it right when Iran is supplying terrorists and other enemy combatants in order to kill American troops and our allies. And reports also show that Iran is supplying Hezbollah and other groups with the intent to eventually attack Israel and US interests. Even with Israel out of the picture, Iran has proven to be an enemy of the US by unprovoked killings of our troops who were not targeting Iranians. Iran is bringing it's own judgment on itself.
And after such an attack on Iran, the US and it's allies have proven time and again throughout history that they are willing to help rebuild and aid those nations who have suffered loss from war. I don't think there will be any difference in that approach.
And my opinions come from what I read in various news sources who are reputable. Along with that, my opinions comes from what is inside of me and my view of righteousness and honor that stems from the Word of God as well as the honorable things I've seen throughout history and witnessed firsthand. I understand some people, possibly like yourself, who don't understand war. But regardless of whether you understand it or not, it's been around since the earliest days of life and until Christ returns, it will remain. Even the return of Christ involves war against unrighteousness and those who war against Him and His people. Was it supposed to be this way, no, but then Adam and Eve sinned and changed everything. From then conflict is just a part of humanity and you can't deny it. Everyone looks forward to an end to wars and conflicts, but until then all we can do is enter into those wars and conflicts, when necessary, and history has proven it necessary at times, with the desire to do what is right and honorable. Granted, history is marred with unjust wars and dishonorable conflicts. But in this specific situation with Iran, I believe it is just based on more than just the Israel situation...but that in itself is enough.
We need to stop pretending that man can settle things all the time diplomatically and thinking if we just love each other and understand each other we'll never have to fight again. It won't happen, this earth is NOT heaven and it never will be...until Christ comes to establish His kingdom. Until then, man is going to disagree and those disagreements can and will lead to war at times, it's just the way it is.
Why do you hold the view on war that you do? Do you think it's never necessary? Are there ever just and honorable reasons to engage another nation in war? If so, what do you see as just and honorable in doing so? If not, what realistic option do you offer that will satisfy everyone?