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LoisFaith2000
CITY, Israel - Former President Jimmy Carter defended his plan to meet with the top leader of the violently anti-Israel Hamas movement, saying Monday he hopes to become a conduit between the Islamic militant group and Washington and Israel.

Isolating Hamas is counterproductive, Carter said. Hamas rules the Gaza Strip but is ostracized by Israel, the U.S. and European Union as a terrorist group.

"I think it is absolutely crucial that in the final and dreamed-about and prayed-for peace agreement for this region that Hamas be involved and Syria will be involved," he told a business conference outside Tel Aviv.

"I can't say that they will be amenable to any suggestions, but at least after I meet with them I can go back and relay what they say, as just a communicator, to the leaders of the United States," he said.

The U.S., EU and Israel have blacklisted Hamas for its history of killing some 250 Israelis with suicide bomber attacks and its refusal to renounce violence and recognize the Jewish state

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He better watch his step. He may make Tony Blair jealous.
Mr. Peanut needs his head examined.
I don't question his patriotism...his sanity is fair game however.
LoisFaith2000
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351242,00.html

Hamas Cleric Predicts 'Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam'

A sermon last Friday by a prominent Muslim cleric and Hamas member of the Palestinian parliament openly declared that "the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital," would soon be conquered by Islam.

The fiery sermon, delivered by Yunis al-Astal and aired on Hamas' Al-Aqsa TV, predicted that Rome would become "an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread though Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, even Eastern Europe."

"Allah has chosen you for Himself and for His religion," al-Astal preached, "so that you will serve as the engine pulling this nation to the phase of succession, security and consolidation of power, and even to conquests through da'wa and military conquests of the capitals of the entire world.


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Obama will help them, too.
ahhh... but is a thing conqured when it greets you with open arms?
Obama will help them, too.

You bet!

Islam dominated countries are cheering for him.

Blogs from these folks are advocating him.



Hamas Cleric Predicts 'Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam'

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A sermon last Friday by a prominent Muslim cleric and Hamas member of the Palestinian parliament openly declared that "the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital," would soon be conquered by Islam.

The fiery sermon, delivered by Yunis al-Astal and aired on Hamas' Al-Aqsa TV, predicted that Rome would become "an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread though Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, even Eastern Europe."

"Allah has chosen you for Himself and for His religion," al-Astal preached, "so that you will serve as the engine pulling this nation to the phase of succession, security and consolidation of power, and even to conquests through da'wa and military conquests of the capitals of the entire world.

"Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesized by our prophet Muhammad," he added.

Al-Astal last June preached how it was the duty of Palestinian women to martyr themselves by becoming homicide bombers.

"The most exalted form of jihad is fighting for the sake of Allah, which means sacrificing one's soul by fighting the enemies head-on, even if it leads to martyrdom," he said in a June 23, 2007 interview.

"When jihad becomes an individual duty, it applies to women too, because women do not differ from men when it comes to individual duties," he said, calling Jews "the brothers of apes and pigs" who should "taste the bitterness of death."

Friday's rant repeated that theme: "Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam.

"I believe that our children, or our grandchildren, will inherit our jihad and our sacrifices, and, Allah willing, the commanders of the conquest will come from among them.

"Today, we instill these good tidings in their souls – and by means of the mosques and the Koran books, and the history of our Prophets, his companions, and the great leaders, we prepare them for the mission of saving humanity from the hellfire at whose brink they stand."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351242,00.html

Do you see this as usual propoganda, or a significant threat, especially since the pope will be visiting the U.S. this week?

Hamas Cleric Predicts "Rome Will Be Conquered by Islam"

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A sermon last Friday by a prominent Muslim cleric and Hamas member of the Palestinian parliament openly declared that "the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital," would soon be conquered by Islam.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351242,00.html



Blah Blah Blah...

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Yeah, I kind of believe that's why the pope's over here now~~scoping out the US for a possible "new" Vatican City.
That's assuming Rome lays down like Olmert. Which I doubt very much.
Europe is already making extreme concessions for Muslims. They have "no go" zones where the Muslims live, they are building more mosques, and they are allowing the Muslim community to enforce their laws in European courts.

It won't be long before Rome and Europe are over run.
Why do they go so willingly to the chopping block without a fight? The Western civilizations that is.

What is plain to see is; that as Christianity vanishes, Islam replaces it quickly.
Why indeed.

There is a significant difference in mindset between the two cultures. The Arab man only sees conquest or subjugation. The western mindset is pragmatic, mainly seeking peace and comfort.

To confront an attack of a thousand cuts like Islam, is to actually get off the couch and learn something about these strange people who are bothering him so incessantly. Failure to get off the couch means the west gets overrun.

Laziness, inaction, carelessness, lack of responsibility.
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Symptoms of the modern world will be its undoing.
Communism used to be democracy's number one enemy. It's still a looming danger. But the muslim faith is mounting a far greater threat. The religious zeal creates a dedication in the muslims Communism never realized. This makes it easier to sweep in and take over. They just take advantage of the muslim's devotion to allah.


LoisFaith2000
Israel looking at May/June to attack Syria

Report: Syria bracing for Israeli attack

According to the report, the nationwide emergency drill held by Damascus in response to a similar drill held by Israel last week, is one of the preemptive steps taken by Syria, which is supposedly responding to reports of Israel holding strategy meeting with the US in an attempt to devise an attack on both Syria and Iran.

Israel, claimed the report, is eyeing the period between the end of May to mid June as a possible window of attack; and the proof, as a senior Syrian official told al-Watan, is in the fact that the Israeli drill covering the Golan Heights was closely monitored by a high-ranking American general.


This close cooperation, added the source is evident that the two wish to send a message to the "resistance" in the area, namely Syria, Iran, Hizbullah and Hamas, that any the US is aware of the fact that any American strike against Iran may entail the latter bombing Israel and launching two new fronts against Syria and Lebanon.



Though titled a readiness drill against natural disasters, the Syria-crossing drill, added the report, has raised public concerns of a Mideast war pending in the summer.
Justice
Oh My God! The package is ticking! Dive under the desks!
Oops my fault, it was Jimmy Carters watch, sorry...
Justice
QUOTE (Justice @ Apr 14 2008, 07:08 AM) *
It would be best for all, if we would start listening seriously to Gods warnings.

God, I pray that their eyes be opened for YOU, our Only Hope.
God, I also think they may need extra signs.


Thank You for the sign, Good Lord

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Apr 14, 2008 19:38
Iranian military plane crashes in Tehran, no casualties
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
TEHERAN, Iran
A Sukhoi fighter jet has crashed at an airport in Teheran, but the two pilots ejected safely, Iran's official news agency reported Monday.
IRNA said that the crash occurred around 7 p.m. local time (1530GMT) because of a technical problem.
The pilots ejected safely and no one on the ground was injured either, it said.

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(did you notice the 1530 GMT time? lol)
LoisFaith2000
15 Apr 08

U.S. Senate to discuss N. Korea-Syria nuclear ties
The American administration intends to give the Senate Intelligence Committee an account of the nuclear ties between North Korea and Syria for the first time on April 22. Senior IDF officers have warned, however, that the release of any information containing details of the Israeli Air Force strike in Syria last September could increase tension between Israel and Syria
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/974913.html

Retailing Chains Caught in a Wave of Bankruptcies

The consumer spending slump and tightening credit markets are unleashing a widening wave of bankruptcies in American retailing, prompting thousands of store closings that are expected to remake suburban malls and downtown shopping districts across the country.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/business...amp;oref=slogin

Iran: We'll 'eliminate Israel' if it launches attack
Iran will destroy Israel if Israel attacks Teheran, Iranian deputy chief of staff, Mohammad Reza Ashtiani, warned Tuesday in response to a threat issued last week by National Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer. "We are not worried by the recent Israeli maneuvers, but "If Israel wants to take any action against the Islamic republic, we will eliminate Israel from the scene of the universe," the Iranian Mehr agency quoted him as saying.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull

Israel successfully tests Arrow's radar
Israel successfully tested the Green Pine Radar - an integral part of the Arrow missile defense system - on Thursday as it tracked a missile made by Rafael, Blue Sparrow, which mimics an upgraded version of Iran's Shihab 3 ballistic missile.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull

Pope set to depart for US visit
From a presidential welcome, to two Masses at baseball stadiums, to a stop for prayer at ground zero in New York, Pope Benedict XVI will get a heavy dose of the American experience in his first pilgrimage to the United States.

Putin accepts leadership of party
Vladimir Putin accepted the leadership of the dominant United Russia party on Tuesday, securing his grip on power after he leaves the Kremlin and becomes prime minister next month. The nearly 600 party delegates immediately approved his candidacy in an unanimous vote.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080415/ap_on_...a_putin_s_party

Deadly bombings hit Iraqi cities
A car bomb has killed at least 38 people and injured 64 in the central Iraqi city of Baquba, police officials report.


Thousands View Holocaust Train Exhibit
Thousands of Berlin residents waited in line for up to four hours on Sunday to see an exhibit pulled on a train commemorating Jewish children sent by the Nazis to death camps.
Excerpt
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20080413/API/804132645




1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / TERRORISTS WANT OBAMA TO WIN 4/15 on: April 14, 2008, 09:51:45 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=61631


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Strong earthquake hits off Guatemala 4/15 on: April 14, 2008, 09:47:37 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...441567820080415


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / MAJOR QUAKE ALMOST INEVITABLE FOR CA 4/15 on: April 14, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1438217720080414


4 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: Riots, instability spread as food prices skyrocket 4/14 on: April 14, 2008, 09:43:20 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1435518520080415

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UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- A rapidly escalating global food crisis has reached emergency proportions and threatens to wipe out seven years of progress in the fight against poverty, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon warned Monday.

He called for short-term emergency measures in many regions to meet urgent food needs and avoid starvation and longer-term efforts to significantly increase production of food grains.

The "international community will also need to take urgent and concerted action in order to avoid the larger political and security implications of this growing crisis," Ban told international finance and trade officials who came to a U.N. meeting following weekend talks in Washington.

The secretary-general echoed World Bank President Robert Zoellick's appeal to governments on Sunday to quickly provide the U.N. World Food Program with $500 million in emergency aid that it needs by May 1.

Zoellick said the international community has "to put our money where our mouth is" to deal with rapidly rising food prices that have caused hunger and deadly violence in several countries.
Then maybe Ban Ki-Moon should go talk to the Arabs he loves so much and tell them to lower their profit margin a little bit on the oil.
I second the motion.


Report: Syria bracing for Israeli attack
Is Syria preparing for war? Qatar's al-Watan newspaper reported Monday that political and media sources in Damascus expressed concerns that war may breakout between Israel and Syria before long.

According to the report, the nationwide emergency drill held by Damascus in response to a similar drill held by Israel last week, is one of the preemptive steps taken by Syria, which is supposedly responding to reports of Israel holding strategy meeting with the US in an attempt to devise an attack on both Syria and Iran.

Israel, claimed the report, is eyeing the period between the end of May to mid June as a possible window of attack; and the proof, as a senior Syrian official told al-Watan, is in the fact that the Israeli drill covering the Golan Heights was closely monitored by a high-ranking American general.

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Israel, claimed the report, is eyeing the period between the end of May to mid June as a possible window of attack; and the proof, as a senior Syrian official told al-Watan, is in the fact that the Israeli drill covering the Golan Heights was closely monitored by a high-ranking American general.

I wonder why they chose that window of attack???

The same reason why they announced attacks in March. To throw something out there. They kill me with these fake threats. I am sure they are doing that to throw off the government ("oh they won't attack just like they always do") or to exhaust them by being in constant alert.

Don't forget now that the war or conflict has been a continuous thing... starting any where from tonight to next quarter....we've been in this constant state of near term target dates for over a year now. And it hasn't happened. The stakes have been raised, the weapons better and more plentiful, more countries brought in, more high profile....but it still hasn't happened.

Yes, its gonna happen. Bout the time we just quit listening and speculating...then bang. Every time He ups the ante and shakes the tree hard....we have a great harvesting oppertunity.
Syria will preempt or fake news of an Israeli attack. Maybe even say it is retaliation for the air strike that happened a while back on its supposed nuke facility or whatever that was.

Syria have been massing Troops like CRAZY on the Israeli border for the last few weeks. coincidence ?!

Amid new Iranian threat, Israel connects to America’s Ballistic Missile Early Warning System

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Amid new Iranian threat, Israel connects to America’s Ballistic Missile Early Warning System


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Israel requested the hook-up to the BMEWS for early warning to defend itself against Iranian missile attack. Tuesday, April 15, Iran’s deputy C-in-C Mohammad Reza Ashtiani threatened to eliminate Israel from “the scene of the universe” if it launches a military attack on the Islamic state.

DEBKAfile’s military sources report the system operates from three global centers – the US Thule Air Base in Greenland, where the 12th Space Warning Squadron is located; the Clear Air Force Station in Alaska and the British RAF long-range radar station at Fylingdales, Yorkshire, in England.

This is the third time Israel has been connected to the BMEWS. The first was in 1991 before the first Gulf War and the second in 2003 before the US invasion of Iraq. Then, Israel feared Iraqi missile attack, which indeed materialized in 1991. Now, US military sources interpret the request as signifying Israel’s sense of the need to prepare for an Iranian missile attack in the not-too-distant future.

Such an attack could develop from a US or Israeli strike against Iran, or any war situation involving Israel, Syria or Hizballah. Tehran might also stage a pre-emptive strike if early intelligence was received of an impending US or Israeli attack on Iran, Syria or Hizballah.

These sources stressed that Iran could even decide to lash out against Israel after the event in reprisal for an American assault, not necessarily on its nuclear sites but on Revolutionary Guards bases involved in directing, arming and training militias for attacks on US troops in Iraq. In such a contingency, Tehran could decide to hit back at US bases and strategic sites in the Persian Gulf and Middle East at large, including Israel.

The hook-up to the US early warning system will give Israel a better chance to prepare its Arrow and Patriot missile defense systems – and the US to prepare its own Israel-based Patriot batteries - in good time to ward off an Iranian missile attack. The BMEWS would start beaming data on an incoming Iranian missile at the launching stage and before it is airborne.

American military sources have no doubt that if an Iranian missile barrage targets Tel Aviv, Israel will counter with a missile attack on Tehran or Damascus.

This was just released on the DEBKAfile !

All I can say is PRAY ...... I feel something BIG is about to erupt in the not so far future.

Iran Would 'Eliminate Israel' if Attacked
http://www.almanar.com.lb/NewsSite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=40730

Iran would "eliminate Israel from the global arena" if it was attacked by the Jewish state, the deputy commander of the army Mohammad Reza Ashtiani warned on Tuesday, the Mehr news agency reported.

"We are not worried by Israeli maneuvers, but if Israel takes such action against the Islamic Republic of Iran, we will eliminate it from the global arena," General Ashtiani was quoted as saying at a news conference ahead of Iran's national army day on Thursday when a major military parade is expected in Tehran.

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How does he suggest to do this ? I bet you anything Iran already has Nukes, from North Korea, Russia or from black market sources !

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/04102008/posto..._bid_105852.htm

At War with Iran in Iraq

Anyone that doubts that we are not at war with Iran in the geographical location of Iraq needs to really read this:


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IRAN'S BUSTED IRAQ BID
April 10, 2008 -- A GAMBLE that proved too costly.

That's how analysts in Tehran describe events last month in Basra. Iran's state-run media have de facto confirmed that this was no spontaneous "uprising." Rather, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) tried to seize control of Iraq's second-largest city using local Shiite militias as a Trojan horse.

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iran has been killing Americans for thirty years

I knew and stated when we were about to go into Iraq that the enemy would have to be stopped at the Iraqi borders. Syria and Iran will pull the "Death of A Thousand Cuts" on us. They are, and that's what they do best. Israel has been going through their torture for many years longer than we have, yet the world has not awakened to the Islamic method of war. The U.S. in my opinion was very well justified to go into Iraq the first and second time. The Islamic method of fighting a war was never even contemplated IMHO to the extent that to them it is a chess game. Played with thinking and over a period of time.
LoisFaith2000
For the past five years, the United States and Iran have been holding "back channel" talks over the Iranian nuclear program and the relations between the two countries, the British daily The Independent reported Monday.


Former US diplomat Thomas Pickering says he and a number of other US figures have been holding secret talks with the Iranians over their nuclear program.
Photo: Courtesy

Slideshow: Pictures of the week The report quoted one of the participants, Thomas Pickering, a former senior US diplomat, as saying that former diplomats and foreign policy experts met with Iranian academics and policy advisers.

"Some of the Iranians were connected to official institutions inside Iran," Pickering told The Independent. Although the nuclear issue was "prominent," he said, "we discussed what's going on domestically in both countries and wide-ranging issues."

Pickering said that the Bush administration "did not encourage" the talks, but added that "each side kept their officials informed."

According to Pickering, the talks were prompted by the fact that US policy regarding Iran was "stuck." He said that preventing Teheran from obtaining a nuclear weapons was "feasible," but only "if governments wish to make it so, technically and financially."

"It will take a lot of negotiation," he added.
LoisFaith2000
http://www.infolive.tv/en/middle-east

Thank you Lord that we know you have not finished with your people and you will gring them back to yourself. Praise you that you are keeping safe your remnant that are still yours. Amen


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RO 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah--how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me" ? 4 And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal." 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

gregg
Here's what the resistance in Iraq is battling:

I was listening to Talk Radio and on there was Sir Charles Shults III,

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Bio
Sir Charles Shults III worked at Martin Marietta Aerospace for 10 years on weapons systems and computer based automated test equipment. He wrote the nuclear EMP test software for the Pershing II missile system, worked on Patriot, the Copperhead tank killer, and Advanced Attack Helicopter systems. Charles has performed research under grant on nuclear fusion, was knighted and received a long term grant for his present research in robotics and artificial intelligence. He has written many technical publications and magazine articles on space, astronomy, the atmosphere, and space resource development. In addition, Charles has also appeared on several TV and radio programs.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guests/773.html


and he was talking about the war in Iraq. Since the invasion of Iraq, the US military has been using robots.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/warfare/first-f...nent-285394.php

What would you think if you were an average Iraqi militiaman patrolling your neighborhood and all of a sudden bombs started dropping all around you and out of the smoke rolls one of these things? What would you do? What would you think about all the people around you? Now remember, you are an average Iraqi militiaman, you were protecting your territory against an enemy that you could see and kill, and out comes something you can't, something you have never seen before, and it kills you; you're gone. All witnessed by the 50 other militiamen and they run and regroup.
Another leader comes out and says that all the people have become robots and that they are eating all the food.
Well, they have stockpiles of roadside bombs and explosive vests that were a leftover from the Iran-Iraq war so they decide that they need to blow up all the robots.
Is there no statement in the Geneva Convention on war that covers the use of non-living things to fight?

http://www.dailytech.com/Antilandmine+Camp...rticle11286.htm

http://www.sundaypaper.com/CurrentArticles...he-machine.aspx

I'm still looking for the statement that that is wrong, but this is the reality:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/killer-robot-pu.html

It started in Afghanistan.

http://www.roboticsonline.com/public/artic...ails.cfm?id=793

Is this against the laws of war and engagement set forth by the 1977 Geneva Convention?





LoisFaith2000
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/iran_nucl...4/14/87887.html

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Source: U.S. Strike on Iran Nearing

A number of signs indicate that, contrary to the belief President Bush is a lame duck who will not act before he leaves office, the U.S. is poised to strike before Iran can acquire nuclear weapons and carry out the threat of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to “wipe Israel off the map”:



According to intelligence sources, the administration now rejects the National Intelligence Estimate report issued in December that asserted Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in late 2003.


The French daily Le Monde reported in March that newly surfaced documents show that Iran has continued developing nuclear weapons. In late 2006, U.S. intelligence reportedly intercepted a phone conversation in Iran’s Defense Ministry in which the nuclear weapons program was discussed.



The commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, Admiral William Fallon, resigned in March amid media reports that he broke with President Bush’s strategy on Iran and did not want to be in the chain of command when the order comes down from the President to launch a strike on the Islamic Republic.


Democrats suggested he had been forced out because of his candor in opposing Bush’s Iran plans, and Esquire magazine contended that Fallon’s departure signaled that the U.S. is preparing to attack Iran.



According to a Tehran-based Iranian news network, Press TV, Saudi Arabia is taking emergency steps in preparing to counter any “radioactive hazards” that may result from an American attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.


The Saudi newspaper Okaz disclosed that the Saudi government has approved nuclear fallout preparations, and the Iranian network reported that the approval came a day after Cheney met with the kingdom’s high-ranking officials, further stating that the U.S. “is now informing its Arab allies of a potential war.”



The American commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has stepped up criticism of Iran, telling Congress last week that Iranian support for Shiite militias posed the most serious threat to Iraq’s stability. He told senators : “Iran has fueled the violence in a particularly damaging way.” Last week, the U.S. said Iran was providing insurgents with missiles that were killing Americans and hitting targets within the U.S. occupied Green Zone in Baghdad.


MSNBC Commentator Pat Buchanan said Petraeus’ remarks to Congress lay the groundwork for a U.S. attack on Iran.



President Bush said in a speech at the White House on April 10 that Iran, along with al-Qaida, are “two of the greatest threats to America.”


He said Iran “can live in peace with its neighbors,” or “continue to arm and train and fund illegal militant groups which are terrorizing the Iraqi people … If Iran makes the wrong choice, America will act to protect our interests and our troops and our Iraqi partners.”


He later told ABC News that if Iran continues to help militants in Iraq, “then we’ll deal with them.”


Members of Congress are said to have been briefed by the administration about the rising Iran threat.

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Get your disaster event gear ready folks.

This just may be the spark that sets the middle east on fire


Oy veh! Here we go folks. It's up & away or bye-bye.....



Anything is possible in this day and age, I pray for wisdom in our leaders choices.... However, the Bible has definitely laid out that Persia (Iran) and Russia (?Gog) will be partners in the last days. It seems to me that they have definitely made some serious steps in that direction!

Read an article today that the SECDEF said on CBS that an attack against Iran was not in the offing, so I'd not read too much into these little "the sky is falling" articles. If the US were to conduct any form of military action against the Iranian regime, it would most likely be covert in form, and we would deny any involvement.

Rumors are Israel will attack Syria and the US will attack Iran. If so, Isaiah 17 will be fulfilled.
Many also believe that Isaiah 18 is speaking of the USA. That could very well be possible. If it is, we are in for it (!!!) if we aren't raptured first. Only God knows for sure what His plans for America are.
But if Isaiah 17 comes to pass very soon, and Isaiah 18 is indeed the USA, we are going HOME real soon.

War and rumors of war. There seem to be more and more rumors of war everyday. And I know that now they are just that, rumors. But with every thing that is going on right now, every thing that is in place, one of these days, and I think sooner than later, the rumors are going to come to fruition. Of course only God knows, and He is in total control. All we can do is watch, wait, pray and witness to others.

Read an article today that the SECDEF said on CBS that an attack against Iran was not in the offing, so I'd not read too much into these little "the sky is falling" articles. If the US were to conduct any form of military action against the Iranian regime, it would most likely be covert in form, and we would deny any involvement.

I wonder at this point in the game what a covert op would be good for? And what the point would be in denying it if it were to happen. Granted, if Ahmadinejad were taken out via some isolated coup and innocent lives were spared that would be ideal. But even so, with all the rhetoric I don't think anyone could deny that the US was behind it...at least the world would assume that was so.

I think there's too much "dealing with Iran" talk going on in all facets to go in and try to make people think we were surprised by some coup and had no involvement. And regardless of whether we deny involvement, Iran will retaliate if something happens and then our hand will be forced eventually.

IMO..I think those who have the final say (humanly speaking) already know what's going to happen, but it's still wise to allow a little confusion in the media to keep from showing our actual hand. And with the way the events of these days seem to be coming together, I honestly believe it is only God's grace that is holding off the trigger event that will send everything into full on prophetic tribulation.

You can almost hear the 4 horsemen's horses snorting and stamping there feet at the gate just aching for the gate to open to run the race they were destined too...

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I wonder how Russia will respond if we do?


I wonder at this point in the game what a covert op would be good for? And what the point would be in denying it if it were to happen. Granted, if Ahmadinejad were taken out via some isolated coup and innocent lives were spared that would be ideal. But even so, with all the rhetoric I don't think anyone could deny that the US was behind it...at least the world would assume that was so.

It would serve to forestall Iran's nuclear development at best, for a short while. At worst, it would serve to further destabilize an already volatile region. Frankly, I believe that unless we could successfully execute covert operations designed to destabilize and discredit the current Iranian regime, we should leave the military out of it. If the US overtly attacks Iran, all bets are off, and nothing is gained except to further erode the US sway on the world stage. Teddy Roosevelt once counseled us to speak softly and carry a big stick, not to swing it about wildly like a madman while we wear ourselves down into obscurity and irrelevance.

Frankly, I believe that unless we could successfully execute covert operations designed to destabilize and discredit the current Iranian regime, we should leave the military out of it.

I agree.
We are not only spread thin right now, but it would further destabilize the area and confirm to the world that we are aggressors - pre-emptively striking anyone we have a beef with.

It would serve to forestall Iran's nuclear development at best, for a short while. At worst, it would serve to further destabilize an already volatile region.

This region has been volatile for years and years. And, those of us that know prophecy, and biblical history know that the US is not really the culprit.
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If the US overtly attacks Iran, all bets are off, and nothing is gained except to further erode the US sway on the world stage.

And.....our "sway" isn't already "eroded"? We are the only nation that stood up to islamic terrorism, and (for the most part) for Israel. That is what God instructs us to do. And, if that makes us unpopular, then so be it. Jesus was not popular, but He was "right".
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Teddy Roosevelt once counseled us to speak softly and carry a big stick, not to swing it about wildly like a madman while we wear ourselves down into obscurity and irrelevance.

Teddy didn't live in the world we live in today. I think he might have a different saying in the dynamics of the world stage.

We are the only nation that stood up to islamic terrorism, and (for the most part) for Israel. That is what God instructs us to do. And, if that makes us unpopular, then so be it.

Please point out in the Bible where God instructed the United States to wage war against nations that threatened Israel.

Please point out in the Bible where God instructed the United States to wage war against nations that threatened Israel.

Oh please. We've been through this before. We are instructed to take care of Israel....to bless her. That also means PROTECT her.

Please point out in the Bible where God instructed the United States to wage war against nations that threatened Israel.

That and it seems like Israel has only interest in giving into Islamic terrorism these days.
Yes, we have been through this before. Wherein the Bible does one find a requirement for the United States to take care of Israel? As to blessing Israel, how does one make the leap from that to waging open warfare on nations that verbally threaten Israel?

That is where you take it upon yourself to limit God's definition of "blessing". And, Iran is already attacking Israelis through Hamas, just like they are our forces in Iraq.

So, it has gone further than "verbal" threats, already, and it has been for some time now.

Again, if we attack Iran, what is accomplished? What are the second and third-order effects of such an attack, in your opinion, and upon what do you base your opinion?

Obviously, what will be accomplished is a dictatorial regime with sinister schemes and threats being done away with. And you'll notice that the attack plans that have been discussed are not with the desire to inflict mass casualty, but to target this regime's leadership as well as it's means of possibly carrying out it's attacks it threatens.

If it could be accomplished diplomatically it would have been done by now I'm sure. But to this day Iran continues it's threats of wiping people off the earth. Not in calculated attacks to destroy a leadership or certain infrastructures, but WHOLE peoples.

And His Always says it right when Iran is supplying terrorists and other enemy combatants in order to kill American troops and our allies. And reports also show that Iran is supplying Hezbollah and other groups with the intent to eventually attack Israel and US interests. Even with Israel out of the picture, Iran has proven to be an enemy of the US by unprovoked killings of our troops who were not targeting Iranians. Iran is bringing it's own judgment on itself.

And after such an attack on Iran, the US and it's allies have proven time and again throughout history that they are willing to help rebuild and aid those nations who have suffered loss from war. I don't think there will be any difference in that approach.

And my opinions come from what I read in various news sources who are reputable. Along with that, my opinions comes from what is inside of me and my view of righteousness and honor that stems from the Word of God as well as the honorable things I've seen throughout history and witnessed firsthand. I understand some people, possibly like yourself, who don't understand war. But regardless of whether you understand it or not, it's been around since the earliest days of life and until Christ returns, it will remain. Even the return of Christ involves war against unrighteousness and those who war against Him and His people. Was it supposed to be this way, no, but then Adam and Eve sinned and changed everything. From then conflict is just a part of humanity and you can't deny it. Everyone looks forward to an end to wars and conflicts, but until then all we can do is enter into those wars and conflicts, when necessary, and history has proven it necessary at times, with the desire to do what is right and honorable. Granted, history is marred with unjust wars and dishonorable conflicts. But in this specific situation with Iran, I believe it is just based on more than just the Israel situation...but that in itself is enough.

We need to stop pretending that man can settle things all the time diplomatically and thinking if we just love each other and understand each other we'll never have to fight again. It won't happen, this earth is NOT heaven and it never will be...until Christ comes to establish His kingdom. Until then, man is going to disagree and those disagreements can and will lead to war at times, it's just the way it is.

Why do you hold the view on war that you do? Do you think it's never necessary? Are there ever just and honorable reasons to engage another nation in war? If so, what do you see as just and honorable in doing so? If not, what realistic option do you offer that will satisfy everyone?
gregg
My opinion is that President Bush will strike and when he does, things will happen in this US that will keep him in power. Martial Law would stop everything.
LoisFaith2000
....alll in the timing
....we will see it all unfold



Message via Louise Starr Tomkiel,
Louise began to receive a message from our God and said, "Jesus, please cover me with Your Most Precious Blood."

Then our God of Justice spoke:

"A great disaster will now strike!
World War III is imminent!
One World Order will rule!
Martial Law will control all!
The chip will be forced on all- -the world over!
No more peace!
Much suffering and pain await you!
Death through agony is coming!
A false pope will rule!
Rare, incurable diseases will attack your body!
Manmade insects will destroy!
Hate will rule!
Love is gone!
I have been evicted!
My word is ignored!
Little prayer ascends to Heaven!
Life has no value!
Satan rules!
Lies are sweet talk- -empty!
Storms will worsen!
The earth will shake!
Fire will consume!
Floods will cleanse!
Freezing temperatures will kill!
Staggering heat will kill!
Pollution is everywhere!
Freedom is gone!
You have deserted Me!
Now, you are completely unprotected!
You will wallow in your sins now and for eternity!
My precious ones, watch and pray for the hour is at hand!
My word is truth!
I am victorious!
My hour is nearly upon you!
The hour of mercy is over!
The hour of Divine Justice is NOW!!!
Amen- -let all begin as is written in Scripture!
Angels, trumpets, plagues- -begin!
Blood will flow freely!
I give My command to My Angels- -BEGIN!!!!!!

Be sure all your provisions are in place!
Be sure to consecrate your all to Me!
Be in the State of Grace!
Pray each moment so that this time may be shortened or NO ONE will survive it!


You pledge your troth to satan - -the devil!
I cry for you! I gave My all to you! I gave My all for you! You ignore Me! You hate Me!

Note:Vision* I see the face of our Lord covered in tears.
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A MASSIVE EARTHQUAKE IS GOING TO STRIKE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FROM LOS ANGELES TO LAS VEGAS.
THE WATER AND FOOD SUPPLY ON THE WEST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES IS GOING TO SUFFER A FATAL BLOW.
PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS ARE GOING TO BE FORCED TO THE STREETS, HAVING LOST THEIR HOMES.
HOSPITALS ARE GOING TO OVERFLOW WITH THE DEAD.
REPORTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD ARE GOING TO RELEASE THE NEXT WAVE OF DESTRUCTION UPON AMERICA.
MARTIAL LAW WILL BE IMPOSED WITHIN THE NATION, MAKING TRAVEL NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.
RIOTS WILL EMERGE EVERYWHERE AND A TIME OF GREAT VIOLENCE WILL ARISE IN THE NATION.
OUTSIDE ENEMY NATIONS WILL SEE THEIR MOMENT AND WILL EXECUTE THEIR PLANS TO TAKE CONTROL OF AMERICA.
INTERNAL WARS FOR CONTROL WILL DEVELOP BETWEEN MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS AND FOREIGN POLICY MAKERS
MAJOR SUPERPOWER NATIONS WILL BREAK THEIR ALLEGIANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES, BRITAIN AND ISRAEL AND WILL COME AGAINST THESE THREE NATIONS WITH GREAT FORCE.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS WILL BE UNLEASHED AROUND THE WORLD, WHILE SEVERAL U.S. CITIES ARE NUKED ON THE SAME DAY.
GREATER STORMS WILL HIT THE EASTERN SEABOARD OF THE U.S. CAUSING MILLIONS TO SEEK SHELTER IN THE MIDWEST.
A GREAT GATHERING OF SAINTS WILL UNITE IN THE MIDWEST AND WILL BE LED BY THE ARMIES OF GOD INTO TRIUMPHANT BATTLE AGAINST THE INVADING FORCES.
BIOLOGICAL TERRORISM AND CHEMICAL WARFARE WILL CAUSE MULTIPLIED MILLIONS TO BECOME SICK AND DIE IMMEDIATELY.
MASSIVE LOSS OF LIFE WILL OCCUR WITHIN THE ELDERLY SECTOR OF HUMAN LIFE AS FACLITIES AND SHELTERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR NEEDS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
A SPIRIT OF INSANITY AND CONFUSION WILL HIT THE NATION AS MILLIONS WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO STOP THE VOICES IN THEIR HEAD DUE TO THEIR INABILITY TO HAVE THEIR PHARMACUTICAL DRUGS.
NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD WILL WEEP AND LAMENT THE FALL OF AMERICA AND WILL GO INTO A TIME OF DESPAIR, HAVING NO HELP FOR THEIR CAUSE.
A DARK NIGHT SHALL EMERGE AS ALL OIL SUPPLIES WILL CEASE, LEAVING THE WORLD IN A STATE MUCH LIKE IT WAS IN THE EARLIEST DAYS AFTER THE FALL FROM THE GARDEN OF EDEN.
ANIMALS WILL BECOME A GREAT RESOURCE IN THE DAYS AHEAD AS THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY WILL BE SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY.
FIRES WILL ERUPT AROUND THE WORLD AND CATACLYSMIC, UPSCALE AND MAJOR DISASTERS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THIS TIME.
LoisFaith2000
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1208217154...=googlenews_wsj

Bush and Iran, Again

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The Bush Administration is once again pointing to Iran as the source of trouble in Iraq, and rightly so judging by all the evidence. Note to the White House: The Iranians aren't likely to stop unless the U.S. starts doing something about it.

Iran has long funneled men and materiel to insurgents and provided safe havens across the border. But now the Administration is saying that Tehran's "malign" influence has reached a new level. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and General David Petraeus told Congress last week that Iranian-supplied rockets have attacked the Green Zone in Baghdad, while Iranian-armed Shiites battled the Iraqi government in the Basra offensive. As General Petraeus put it, this Iranian meddling is a danger to U.S. troops and "the greatest long-term threat to the viability of a democratic Iraq."

Meanwhile, last week Tehran announced it has begun installing another 6,000 centrifuges at its Natanz uranium enrichment complex. After five years of deferring to Europe and the United Nations to keep Iran from going nuclear, President Bush's diplomacy has reached an embarrassing dead end.

So: Iran is contributing to the death of GIs, is arming our enemies in Iraq, and is proceeding to ignore the world by enriching uranium for a nuclear weapon. Is the Bush Administration merely going to slink out of office with that legacy?

Sounds like we may be planning on doing something....FINALLY !!

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Quote:
Source: U.S. Strike on Iran Nearing
Contrary to some claims that the Bush administration will allow diplomacy to handle Iran’s nuclear weapons program, a leading member of America’s Jewish community tells Newsmax that a military strike is not only on the table – but likely.
“Israel is preparing for heavy casualties,” the source said, suggesting that although Israel will not take part in the strike, it is expecting to be the target of Iranian retribution.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/iran_nucl...4/14/87887.html

Not sure I believe it....but there it is, nonetheless


All in God's timing.....
LoisFaith2000
Carter greeted warmly by Hamas official in Ramallah, lays wreath on Arafat's grave

Last update - 16:32 15/04/2008



Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on Tuesday warmly embraced a leading Hamas figure in the West Bank and laid a wreath at the grave of Yasser Arafat, further antagonizing Israel as he pushed forward with his latest Mideast peace mission.

The meeting was a sign that Carter has not been cowed by criticism of his plans to meet with the militant Palestinian group.

At a reception in the West Bank town of Ramallah, Carter hugged Nasser Shaer, a leading Hamas figure, and with a smile and laugh, kissed him on each cheek, a Palestinian security official said. The reception was closed to the press. ...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975183.html





During World War II, the Nazis used to call this type of person a useful idiot. I'm so sorry that one of our presidents is doing this shameful thing.

Arafat was a terrorist.

Carter habitually caters to our enemies.

This is obviously what made him our worst president. He never fails to iritate me every time he does something.

Jimmy, go home.

Is this not an act of treason?..If I am not mistaken even the state department didn't want Carter to visit with Hamas...This is sickening Carter is giving comfort, and credibility to our enemies by meeting with them!!...Trully this man is the worst American President in modern history.

I think it's essentially treasonous, but since the US isn't at war with the Pals, it isn't classified that way. Even passive actions like this encourage the Pally terrorists because the PA seeks people on the US side to be a dissenting element against the US/Israeli position.

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What a traitor...

I say we not let him back in the US...


Carter greeted warmly by Hamas official in Ramallah, lays wreath on Arafat's grave

Last update - 16:32 15/04/2008



Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on Tuesday warmly embraced a leading Hamas figure in the West Bank and laid a wreath at the grave of Yasser Arafat, further antagonizing Israel as he pushed forward with his latest Mideast peace mission.

The meeting was a sign that Carter has not been cowed by criticism of his plans to meet with the militant Palestinian group.

At a reception in the West Bank town of Ramallah, Carter hugged Nasser Shaer, a leading Hamas figure, and with a smile and laugh, kissed him on each cheek, a Palestinian security official said. The reception was closed to the press. ...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975183.html






You've got to be kidding me. I can't even stomach this Can't we get Carter for treason or something??? He's making this country look so bad and he shouldn't be allowed to hold his citzenship. I don't care if he was a former president......he shouldn't be allowed to behave in this manner.

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And with a kiss Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus. So Jimmy Carter betrays his God and his country


I really am wondering what motivates Jimmy Carter to do this?

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"I haven't been able to get permission to go into Gaza. I would like to. I asked for permission. But I was turned down. But maybe we can find a way to circumvent that. I don't know yet," Carter said after meeting diplomats in the West Bank city of Ramallah

Maybe Hamas could sneak him in through one of their tunnels?

RAMALLAH, West Bank (Reuters) - Former President Jimmy Carter, shunned by Israeli leaders over his plans to meet Hamas, said on Tuesday he sought permission to enter the Islamist-ruled Gaza Strip but was turned down.

Carter did not single out Israel by name for having turned down his request to visit Gaza, which Hamas seized in June after routing Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's secular Fatah faction.

All of the border crossings between Israel and Gaza are controlled by the Jewish state. Egyptian forces are stationed at Gaza's southern border, which is largely closed.

"I haven't been able to get permission to go into Gaza. I would like to. I asked for permission. But I was turned down. But maybe we can find a way to circumvent that. I don't know yet," Carter said after meeting diplomats in the West Bank city of Ramallah

"I haven't been able to get permission to go into Gaza. I would like to. I asked for permission. But I was turned down. But maybe we can find a way to circumvent that. I don't know yet," Carter said

In other words,"I have no inclination or desire to respect the Israeli rule of this country and I'm not afraid to openly discount their authority."
gregg
Isn't Jimmy Carter a preacher of some religion?

No, I found this though,

At 18, Jimmy Carter started teaching Sunday school. By the mid-1990s, he had taught Sunday school thousands of times. He considered himself a born-again Christian. He vowed prior to being elected never to "do anything as President that would be a contravention of the moral and ethical standards that I would exemplify in my own life as an individual."

Notice he did not say 'legal standards.' And, as a ex-president, I don't think he can be charged with treason because he has been given the Nobel Peace Prize.
LoisFaith2000

I was just reading an MSN journalist's commentary
on Obama's Pennsylvania remarks,

and as revealing as it was,
I could not overlook the 5th paragraph on RELIGION:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
" You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate, and they have not.

With this, who could argue? So far, so good. But then, straight into the ditch:

"So it's not surprising then that they get bitter,'' (Angry, OK, but bitter? I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe someone they liked that way.)

"they cling to guns'' (If they had jobs, maybe they wouldn't be gun nuts?)

"or religion'' (Or religious nuts, either? This is an especially weird conclusion since Obama himself is a devout Christian; was he pandering to the segment of the party that does see believers that way?)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is an educated woman, journalist,
who believes along with the rest of deceived
America, that this man is a 'devout Christian'

and never understanding that he is NOT
a follower of the Gospel as it is written.

If this journalist is so in error, what about
the uneducated, non-churched or churched
citizens who blindly
think the same thing.






As an added postscript,
a friend sent me this email

and I had not known any of these
things... assuming they are factual.

Frankly, I have NOT delved into this
man's background.

The thought of him becoming the
president of the United States of America
is just a nightmare. Let's hope we all
come out of this bad dream.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT:

HIS
FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN
"FAMILY

HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, ATHIEST, WHITE-

WHERE ARE THE
PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED
HIM.

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG
AND WENT BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN
INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS SCHOOLED IN
A MOSLEM SCHOOL

HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY
HIS WHITE KANSAN GRANDPARENTS

HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR
SCHOOLS, HOW?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE
ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?

HE "WORKED"
AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE
JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL
AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE

HE IS
PROUD OF HIS "AFRICAN HERITAGE" BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY
AFRICAN
CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND
DESERTED HER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A "CULTURAL" GENE.
WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?

HE GOES TO A "AFROCENTRIC"
CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS
PERCEIVED FAULTS AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE
CHURCH

HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS
US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN,
RIGHT!!!


YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND
BRING US TOGETHER, I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT
THE PIECES TOGETHER.
*************************


There are some very interesting statements being made by Obama and his wife Michelle, that I think are very revealing. The heart reveals a man, and to know where the heart is, one only has to listen... "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks"

Socialist/Marxist/Communist: Say Hello to Michelle Obama
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GMLeamM7Jkk&feature=related

Michelle Obama: Shut Your Pie Hole
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MTrKsL7EuYU&feature=related

Barack Obama Belittle and Stereotype Working Class Americans
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kw0zr9hn01E&feature=related

LoisFaith2000
Swarms and Storms
by Michael G. Mickey

Fabulous article by Mike Mickey! He agrees that all this is happening becaus of what we are doing in Israel! Great read!

Swarms and Storms
by Michael G. Mickey
(4-15-08)

Luke 21:11: And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Luke 21:25: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

What of the above have we not witnessed, many of these events having played prominent roles in the world around us of late? Arguably, none.

As I have highlighted above, I'm going to be addressing the topics of earthquakes and roaring seas in today's commentary but I want to briefly address two other issues presented in the Scriptures above: Famines and pestilences.

In a recent commentary, I drew everyone's attention to what was being referred to as a "silent famine" sweeping the globe. Less than a week later, the topic isn't nearly as silent as it was before.

Since writing the original commentary, I've noticed numerous headlines appearing in the news of our world today on this topic, all of them pointing to a potential crisis in the making. As noted in the Scripture above, this developing trend is relevant to the lateness of the hour we're presently living in - another reason for us to remain vigilant in our watch for the return of Jesus Christ.

EU aid chief says rising food prices risk African 'humanitarian tsunami'
Soaring food costs threaten world's political stability: UN official
Soaring food costs risk 'starvation and unrest'
Food Costs Rising Fastest in 17 Years, Squeezing Poor Families
On the topic of pestilences, which are referred to as an end times sign as shown above, the World Health Organization has been fearful of a flu pandemic being triggered by bird flu becoming transmissible from human to human for years.

On numerous occasions I've documented that such an event could, unless swiftly contained, result in the deaths of millions of people globally. Don't look now but our worst fears could be on the verge of becoming a reality!

Both the Times Online and AFP have reported it is considered likely that a father in China was infected by the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu by his dying son recently. If true, this could be an indication that bird flu could be on the verge of becoming a killer flu. China has since denied the reports are accurate but concerns are still elevated that we may be nearing the threshold of a global pandemic.

While China is downplaying the incident now, the Times Online article certainly seemed positive it had solid evidence of a human-to-human infection of H5N1, reporting in part (emphasis added mine):

Alarm about a flu pandemic has been restarted by clear evidence that bird flu, which is rife in the Far East, can be transmitted person to person.

This could be one of the first steps in the evolution of the H5N1 strain of avian flu into a deadly pandemic strain that could infect hundreds of millions of people.
And...
Samples of H5N1 virus taken from the father and son were genetically identical, save for one small change. Flu virus mutates rapidly, so the fact that these two samples were so nearly identical is strong evidence of direct infection from son to father.
Time will tell if bird flu is becoming a death-dealing monster of a pestilence before our very eyes but even concerns of this magnitude, in my opinion, are indicative of what Bible prophecy tells us will be taking place in the last days! These red flags remind us that a deadly pestilence wreaking havoc could explode onto the front page of every newspaper around the world at the drop of a hat!

Swarms --- of earthquakes?

Time is reporting the following, in part:
Scientists listening to underwater microphones have detected an unusual swarm of earthquakes off central Oregon, something that often happens before a volcanic eruption — except there are no volcanoes in the area.
There have been, according to the story, over 600 quakes in the last thirteen days in a basin 150 miles southwest of Newport, Oregon! The story indicates that scientists monitoring the activity are saying the sounds they're picking up via hydrophones are unlike anything they've heard in 17 years of listening!

While no one seems to be panicking, this is not your run-of-the mill geological event as the story indicates. Frightening to me is this mysterious activity is taking place as the United States, as a member of the international Quartet alongside Russia, the United Nations, and the European Union continues trying to force the international community's will on Israel concerning the creation of a Palestinian state on Israel's covenant lands.

The Quartet is set to meet on the April 17th in Amman, Jordan and many in the West, including EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana, continue to state that reaching a Palestinian-Israeli peace agreement is still possible before the end of 2008.

God's Word is crystal clear in relation to His hand of blessing being upon those who bless Israel and His hand of judgment being upon those who curse Israel.

When the United States stands alongside the world in placing Israel in greater danger by supporting a Palestinian state from which the Palestine Liberation Organization or PLO can further its openly-stated goal of driving Israel out of the mythical land of Palestine completely, that is cursing the apple of God's eye! If we are to believe Scripture, an action of this sort carries with it the promise of sorrows coming to the United States.

Over 600 earthquakes have occurred in a fashion that typically only occurs when a volcano is about to erupt but there is no volcano in the area of Oregon. At least not yet.

May God have mercy on this nation.

Stormy Seas

Along with all the above, a noted hurricane researcher is predicting that this year is going to see a "well above average" number of sea storms form during hurricane season with "a better than average chance that at least one major hurricane will hit the United States."

While it's hard to know how accurate the researcher's prediction will actually be, so much of prophetic interest is taking place right now that I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if 2008 sees "the sea and the waves roaring" in what has already been a disastrous year nationwide where flooding is concerned.

Not convinced?

Have there always been earthquakes, sea storms, conflict in the Middle East, diseases running rampant and the like? Certainly, but anyone who examines the signs of Christ's return very carefully would be hard-pressed, in my humble opinion, to even suggest that the world we're living in today isn't more like the world described in Bible prophecy than ever before, particularly because of Israel if nothing else!

In Bible prophecy, along with all the other end times signs, we're told that the city of Jerusalem is going to be a burdensome stone to the world and a cup of trembling. (Zechariah 12:2-3)

Prior to 1948, Israel wasn't around but it arrived as prophesied - a required element of Christ's return taking place.

Prior to 1967, Israel didn't have possession of Jerusalem but now it does and guess what is in the works? A plan designed to appease Israel's enemies and give them what they desperately want - to the point it has become a major stumbling block, a "burdensome stone" if you will, to peace coming to the troubled Middle East! What am I referring to? Possession of the city of Jerusalem!

According to WorldNetDaily, the United States has proposed a plan to divide Jerusalem which, among other things, calls for Israel to eventually forfeit parts of the Temple Mount, Judaism's holiest site!

In conclusion, what can I say that hasn't been made relatively clear here? Jesus Christ is coming soon which is why, in spite of the fact I could choose to do most anything with my time, I spend most of my time sounding the alert that Jesus Christ is coming soon to a world that is so wicked I can barely stand to be in it, quite frankly.

Come quickly, Lord Jesus! Please come quickly.
LoisFaith2000
Re: Global food riots turn deadly

Global warming rage lets global hunger grow
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
Last Updated: 1:08pm BST 15/04/2008


We drive, they starve. The mass diversion of the North American grain harvest into ethanol plants for fuel is reaching its political and moral limits.


A demonstrator eats grass in front of a U.N. peacekeeping soldier during a protest against the high cost of living in Port-au-Prince


"The reality is that people are dying already," said Jacques Diouf, of the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO). "Naturally people won't be sitting dying of starvation, they will react," he said.

The UN says it takes 232kg of corn to fill a 50-litre car tank with ethanol. That is enough to feed a child for a year. Last week, the UN predicted "massacres" unless the biofuel policy is halted.
We are all part of this drama whether we fill up with petrol or ethanol. The substitution effect across global markets makes the two morally identical.



Mr Diouf says world grain stocks have fallen to a quarter-century low of 5m tonnes, rations for eight to 12 weeks. America - the world's food superpower - will divert 18pc of its grain output for ethanol this year, chiefly to break dependency on oil imports. It has a 45pc biofuel target for corn by 2015.

Argentina, Canada, and Eastern Europe are joining the race.

The EU has targeted a 5.75pc biofuel share by 2010, though that may change. Europe's farm ministers are to debate a measure this week ensuring "absolute priority" for food output.

"The world food situation is very serious: we have seen riots in Egypt, Cameroon, Haiti and Burkina Faso," said Mr Diouf. "There is a risk that this unrest will spread in countries where 50pc to 60pc of income goes to food," he said.
Haiti's government fell over the weekend following rice and bean riots. Five died.

The global food bill has risen 57pc in the last year. Soaring freight rates make it worse. The cost of food "on the table" has jumped by 74pc in poor countries that rely on imports, according to the FAO.

Roughly 100m people are tipping over the survival line. The import ratio for grains is: Eritrea (88pc), Sierra Leone (85pc), Niger (81pc), Liberia (75pc), Botswana (72pc), Haiti (67pc), and Bangladesh (65pc).

This Malthusian crunch has been building for a long time. We are adding 73m mouths a year. The global population will grow from 6.5bn to 9.5bn before peaking near mid-century.

Asia's bourgeoisie is switching to an animal-based diet. If they follow the Japanese, protein-intake will rise by nine times. It takes 8.3 grams of corn feed to produce a 1g of beef, or 3.1g for pork.

China's meat demand has risen to 50kg per capita from 20kg in 1980, but this has been gradual. The FAO insists that this dietary shift is "not the cause of the sudden food price spike that began in 2005".

Hedge funds played their part in the violent rise in spot prices early this year. To that extent they can be held responsible for the death of African and Asian children. Tougher margin rules on the commodity exchanges might have stopped the racket. Capitalism must police itself, or be policed.
Even so, the funds closed their killer "long" trades in early March, causing a brief 20pc mini-crash in grains. The speculators are now neutral on the COMEX casino in New York.



They have undoubtedly bid up the futures contracts, but the FAO says this has no durable effect on food prices. These index funds never take delivery of grains. All they do is distort the shape of the maturities curve years ahead, allowing farmers to lock in eye-watering prices. That should cause more planting.

Is there any more land? Yes, in Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan, where acreage planted has fallen 12pc since Soviet days. Existing grain yields are 2.4 tonnes per hectare in Ukraine, 1.8 in Russia, and 1.11 in Kazakhstan, com-pared with 6.39 in the US. Investment would do wonders here. But the structure is chaotic.

Brazil has the world's biggest reserves of "potential arable land" with 483m hectares (it currently cultivates 67m), and Colombia has 62m - both offering biannual harvests.

The catch is obvious. "The idea that you cut down rainforest to actually grow biofuels seems profoundly stupid," said Professor John Beddington, Britain's chief scientific adviser.

Goldman Sachs says the cost of ethanol from corn is $81 a barrel (oil equivalent), with wheat at $145 and soybeans $232. It is built on subsidy.
New technology may open the way for the use of non-edible grain stalks to make ethanol, but for now the only biofuel crop that genuinely pays its way is sugar cane ($35). Sugar is carbohydrate: ideal for fuel. Grains contain proteins made of nitrogen: useless for fuel, but vital for people.

Whatever the arguments, politics is intruding. Food export controls have been imposed by Russia, China, India, Vietnam, Argentina, and Serbia. We are disturbingly close to a chain reaction that could shatter our assumptions about food security.The Philippines - a country with ample foreign reserves of $36bn (Britain has $27bn) - last week had to enlist its embassies to hunt for grain supplies after China withheld shipments. Washington stepped in, pledging "absolutely" to cover Philippine grain needs. A new Cold War is taking shape, around energy and food.
The world intelligentsia has been asleep at the wheel. While we rage over global warming, global hunger has swept in under the radar screen.
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Re: Global food riots turn deadly

Food Costs Rising Fastest in 17 Years, Squeezing Poor Families
Tuesday , April 15, 2008

NEW YORK —

Steve Tarpin can bake a graham cracker crust in his sleep, but explaining why the price for his Key lime pies went from $20 to $25 required mastering a thornier topic: global economics.

He recently wrote a letter to his customers and posted it near the cash register listing the factors — dairy prices driven higher by conglomerates buying up milk supplies, heat waves in Europe and California, demand from emerging markets and the weak dollar.

The owner of Steve's Authentic Key Lime Pies in Brooklyn said he didn't want customers thinking he was "jacking up prices because I have a unique product."

"I have to justify it," he said.

The U.S. is wrestling with the worst food inflation in 17 years, and analysts expect new data due on Wednesday to show it's getting worse. That's putting the squeeze on poor families and forcing bakeries, bagel shops and delis to explain price increases to their customers.

U.S. food prices rose 4 percent in 2007, compared with an average 2.5 percent annual rise for the last 15 years, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And the agency says 2008 could be worse, with a rise of as much as 4.5 percent.

Higher prices for food and energy are again expected to play a leading role in pushing the government's consumer price index higher for March.

Analysts are forecasting that Wednesday's Department of Labor report will show the Consumer Price Index rose at a 4 percent annual rate in the first three months of the year, up from last year's overall rise of 2.8 percent.

For the U.S. poor, any increase in food costs sets up an either-or equation: Give something up to pay for food.

"I was talking to people who make $9 an hour, talking about how they might save $5 a week," said Kathleen DiChiara, president and CEO of the Community FoodBank of New Jersey. "They really felt they couldn't. That was before. Now, they have to."

For some, that means adding an extra cup of water to their soup, watering down their milk, or giving their children soda because it's cheaper than milk, DiChiara said.

U.S. households still spend a smaller chunk of their expenses for foods than in any other country — 7.2 percent in 2006, according to the USDA. By contrast, the figure was 22 percent in Poland and more than 40 percent in Egypt and Vietnam.

In Bangladesh, economists estimate 30 million of the country's 150 million people could be going hungry. Haiti's prime minister was ousted over the weekend following food riots there.

Still, the higher U.S. prices seem eye-popping after years of low inflation. Eggs cost 25 percent more in February than they did a year ago, according to the USDA. Milk and other dairy products jumped 13 percent, chicken and other poultry nearly 7 percent.

USDA economist Ephraim Leibtag explained the jumps in a recent presentation to the Food Marketing Institute, starting with the factors everyone knows about: sharply higher commodity costs for wheat, corn, soybeans and milk, plus higher energy and transportation costs.

The other reasons are more complex. Rapid economic growth in China and India has increased demand for meat there, and exports of U.S. products, such as corn, have set records as the weak dollar has made them cheaper. That's lowered the supply of corn available for sale in the U.S., raising prices here. Ethanol production has also diverted corn from dinner tables and into fuel tanks.

Soybean prices have gone up as farmers switched more of their acreage to corn. Drought in Australia has even affected the price of bread, as it led to tighter global wheat supplies.

The jump has left people in the food business to do their own explaining. Twin Cafe Caterers in lower Manhattan posted a letter on its deli cooler: "Due to the huge increase of the gas, the electricity, the water and all the other utilities, we had to raise the prices a little bit." It went on to say that all its food prices have risen, too.

Wonder Bagels, in Jersey City, N.J., posted a letter from its wheat supplier, A. Oliveri & Sons, saying the recent situation was unprecedented.

"The major mills across the country are using words like 'rationing' and 'shortages' if things continue," it said. "We will sweat out the summer together, hoping there will be some flour left to purchase at any price."

The letter called for an immediate halt to exports and a change in farm policy, "stop paying farmers NOT to grow crops." A new farm bill, stalled in Congress, would expand farm subsidies if it passes, however.

For some Americans, the resulting increases might be barely perceptible. The Cheesecake Factory raised prices by 1.5 percent at the end of February, Applebee's by 3 percent.

But for the poorest U.S. families, the higher costs may mean going hungry. A family of four is eligible for a maximum $542 a month in food stamps, which never lasted the whole month before, Food Bank of New Jersey's DiChiara said.

"Now food stamps go fewer and fewer days of the month," she said.

The Food Bank recently got a letter of its own from a key vendor. Its grim message: Sorry, but the prices they charge the Food Bank would be increasing 20 percent, due to food inflation.
gregg
What did Jesus say?

'You are of your father, the devil, who was a liar from the beginning.'

If you have ever seen a picture of Obama's father, you might make a similar conclusion. And he went on to be the financial minister of Kenya.
LoisFaith2000
U.S. Strike on Iran Nearing

Source: U.S. Strike on Iran Nearing

Monday, April 14, 2008 9:37 PM

By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size

Contrary to some claims that the Bush administration will allow diplomacy to handle Iran’s nuclear weapons program, a leading member of America’s Jewish community tells Newsmax that a military strike is not only on the table – but likely.


“Israel is preparing for heavy casualties,” the source said, suggesting that although Israel will not take part in the strike, it is expecting to be the target of Iranian retribution.


“Look at Dick Cheney’s recent trip through the Middle East as preparation for the U.S. attack,” the source said.
Cheney’s hastily arranged 9-day visit to the region, which began on March 16, included stops in Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, Turkey, and the Palestinian territories.


Tensions in the region have been rising.


While Israel was conducting the largest homefront military exercises in its history last week, Israel’s National Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer warned Tehran about expected attacks on the Jewish state.


“An Iranian attack will prompt a severe reaction from Israel, which will destroy the Iranian nation,” he said.


He predicted that in a future war, “hundreds of missiles will rain on Israel,” but added that Iran “is definitely aware of our strength.”

In addition to long-range missiles Iran has been developing to strike Israel, Israel’s military strategists see the Iranians using terror groups they back like Hamas operating from Palestine and Hezbollah from Lebanon to launch attacks.


Iran has supplied Hezbollah with an arsenal that now contains “tens of thousands of missiles,” according to the Washington Post.


IIsrael’s recent war exercises, including preparations for chemical and biological weapons attacks, drew a sharp response from Syria which held its own military drills. The Syrian government accused Israel of preparing for a war which Damascus predicted would be begin anytime between May 1 and the end of June.

Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently told foreign journalists that Israel needs to confront the threat posed by Iran. Privately he has been telling associates his number one priority is have the Israeli military strike Iran if the U.S. is unwilling.


The Israeli newspaper Haaretz disclosed that Israel is concerned that North Korea has transferred technology and nuclear materials to Iran to aid Tehran’s secret nuclear weapons program.


Iran remains intransigent to international pressure that it offer full transparency relating to its nuclear program. On Sunday the head of Iran’s nuclear program “abruptly canceled a meeting with the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, dealing a blow to the U.N. monitor's efforts to investigate allegations that Iran tried to make nuclear arms, an agency official said,” according to an AP report.


“But a senior diplomat had told the AP that IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency] head Mohamed ElBaradei likely planned to use the meeting with Gholam Reza Aghazadeh, the head of Iran's nuclear program, to renew a request for more information on allegations Tehran had tried to make atomic arms.”


A number of signs indicate that, contrary to the belief President Bush is a lame duck who will not act before he leaves office, the U.S. is poised to strike before Iran can acquire nuclear weapons and carry out the threat of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to “wipe Israel off the map”:



According to intelligence sources, the administration now rejects the National Intelligence Estimate report issued in December that asserted Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program in late 2003.


The French daily Le Monde reported in March that newly surfaced documents show that Iran has continued developing nuclear weapons. In late 2006, U.S. intelligence reportedly intercepted a phone conversation in Iran’s Defense Ministry in which the nuclear weapons program was discussed.



The commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East, Admiral William Fallon, resigned in March amid media reports that he broke with President Bush’s strategy on Iran and did not want to be in the chain of command when the order comes down from the President to launch a strike on the Islamic Republic.


Democrats suggested he had been forced out because of his candor in opposing Bush’s Iran plans, and Esquire magazine contended that Fallon’s departure signaled that the U.S. is preparing to attack Iran.



According to a Tehran-based Iranian news network, Press TV, Saudi Arabia is taking emergency steps in preparing to counter any “radioactive hazards” that may result from an American attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.


The Saudi newspaper Okaz disclosed that the Saudi government has approved nuclear fallout preparations, and the Iranian network reported that the approval came a day after Cheney met with the kingdom’s high-ranking officials, further stating that the U.S. “is now informing its Arab allies of a potential war.”



The American commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has stepped up criticism of Iran, telling Congress last week that Iranian support for Shiite militias posed the most serious threat to Iraq’s stability. He told senators : “Iran has fueled the violence in a particularly damaging way.” Last week, the U.S. said Iran was providing insurgents with missiles that were killing Americans and hitting targets within the U.S. occupied Green Zone in Baghdad.

MSNBC Commentator Pat Buchanan said Petraeus’ remarks to Congress lay the groundwork for a U.S. attack on Iran.



President Bush said in a speech at the White House on April 10 that Iran, along with al-Qaida, are “two of the greatest threats to America.”


He said Iran “can live in peace with its neighbors,” or “continue to arm and train and fund illegal militant groups which are terrorizing the Iraqi people … If Iran makes the wrong choice, America will act to protect our interests and our troops and our Iraqi partners.”


He later told ABC News that if Iran continues to help militants in Iraq, “then we’ll deal with them.”


Members of Congress are said to have been briefed by the administration about the rising Iran threat.
Iran did little to cool tensions when it announced that it had begun installing 6,000 new centrifuges at its uranium enrichment plant in Natanz.


Centrifuges can enrich uranium to a low level to produce nuclear fuel or a high level for use in weapons.


The announcement of the new centrifuges by President Ahmadinejad came on April 8, Iran’s National Day of Nuclear Technology, which marked the second anniversary of Iran’s first enrichment of uranium.


Iran already has about 3,000 centrifuges operating in Natanz, and the new announcement was widely seen as a show of defiance to international demands to halt a nuclear program that the U.S. and its allies insist is aimed at building nuclear weapons.




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LoisFaith2000

QUOTE (gregg @ Apr 15 2008, 06:45 PM) *
Isn't Jimmy Carter a preacher of some religion?

No, I found this though,

At 18, Jimmy Carter started teaching Sunday school. By the mid-1990s, he had taught Sunday school thousands of times. He considered himself a born-again Christian. He vowed prior to being elected never to "do anything as President that would be a contravention of the moral and ethical standards that I would exemplify in my own life as an individual."

Notice he did not say 'legal standards.' And, as a ex-president, I don't think he can be charged with treason because he has been given the Nobel Peace Prize.



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Anwar Sadat, Menachem Begin and Jimmy Carter sign the Camp David accords in the garden of the \"Light House\"
gregg
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On numerous occasions I've documented that such an event could, unless swiftly contained, result in the deaths of millions of people globally. Don't look now but our worst fears could be on the verge of becoming a reality!


How can this be contained? Kill all the birds and bury them? The earth is porous you know.
LoisFaith2000
Actions speak louder than words.

As reported in the New York Sun,:
http://www.nysun.com/article/71373 , Mr. Obama has chosen
Zbigniew Brzezenski to advise him on Mideast policy, sending this
anti-Israel, anti-Semite, in the words of one of my
listmembers,"this dinosaur resuscitated from the Jimmy Carter
administration,
a man who spent over 30 years attacking Israel,
an Arabist who recently signed a letter demanding that Israel
negotiate with the terrorist group Hamas, and a defender of the
notorious Walt-Mearsheimer ideology that Israel and Jews have too
much influence on American foreign policy against the interests
of the U.S. " to ...Syria!? What, to negotiate a new peace plan?
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A New Beginning

By Pastor F. M. Riley

“Hear this, all ye people; give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world:
both low and high, rich and poor, together.
My mouth shall speak of wisdom; and the meditation of My heart shall be of understanding.
I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open My dark [chidah…hidden] saying upon the harp.”
Psalm 49:1-4.

“Give ear , O My people, to My law; incline your ears to the Words of My mouth.
I will open My mouth in a parable: I will utter dark [chidah…hidden] sayings of old:”
Psalm 78:1-2

Introduction

The Word of the Lord contains hidden truths that are only revealed at the time the Lord wants them revealed. They are often hidden right in plain sight in the Scriptures that men read every day. Yet the hidden truth in those Scriptures is unseen by men until the Lord’s appointed time for that particular truth to be revealed. The above two Scripture passages plainly point out this truth. Another passage that verifies this truth is found in Daniel 12:4. I suggest that our readers study each of these passages carefully.
Folks, it is God’s inspired Word that we are dealing with. Today it is commonly accepted that any man with reasonable intelligence can “read the Bible” and understand it. Even though it is “commonly accepted,” such an idea is just not so. Spiritual truth is spiritually discerned, 1 Corinthians 2:6-16. A person can read the Bible all their life, but they will never understand the spiritual truths set forth in it until they receive the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Savior through “…repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ,” Acts 20:21.
In this study I am going to share with God’s people [those truly saved] one of those previously hidden truths that the Lord in the Scripture texts above said He was going to reveal to His people. My prayer is that this study will bring encouragement and joy to God’s people today. Read on…..

Bible Numbers

God’s inspired Word is filled with various numbers. The careful Bible student will find that the numbers used in God’s Word are always associated with a particular theme or doctrine. I began studying Bible numbers when I first began preaching 53 years ago, and have never stopped studying them. Therefore I am well acquainted with the meanings of various numbers used in God’s Word. I know after all these years of personal Bible study that the Lord still uses these same Bible numbers in dealing with mankind. I could point out hundreds of examples of this truth from daily life. But in this study I want to emphasize only two numbers which repeatedly occur in God’s Word to demonstrate that the Lord is still using those same Bible numbers [and others] as His great plan of the ages is being worked out among men. Let’s get started…..

Number Seven

Seven (7) is the Bible number that is always associated with the doctrine of completeness or fulfillment throughout the Scriptures. It means, “to complete; bring to an end; bring to closure; to close; to fill up; to fulfill; to bring to fulfillment.”

Number Eight

Eight ( is the Bible number that follows seven and throughout the Bible it is associated with the doctrine of new things. It means, “to begin anew; a new day; a new time; a new birth; a new start; a new beginning.”

Now emphasizing these two numbers, by the Grace of God I want to share with our readers a wonderful…..

Previously Hidden Truth

After some 1827 years of dispersion among the Gentile nations of the earth, the Lord began to move on behalf of the Jewish people in 1897. This was when Theodor Herzl convened the 1st Jewish Congress at Basel, Switzerland. The purpose of that meeting was specifically to launch an organized effort to find a national homeland for the long dispersed Jewish people. Out of that meeting came the Zionist Organization, which in 1898 assumed the leadership role in searching for a Jewish homeland. A new beginning!

Ten years later in 1907 the Great White Fleet of the United States of America sailed into the harbor at Tokyo, Japan and forced the Japanese Emperor to open up his country to world commerce and modernization. Up until that time Japan was a closed country. The Japanese people were living in the same primitive way they had lived for hundreds of years. The Japanese Emperor wanted to protect his people from the outside world where the Industrial Revolution was taking place and modern technology was advancing. But the Lord knew that Japan had a role to play in end-time events. After the Great White Fleet of the U.S. sailed to Japan and literally threatened to open up Japanese markets by an invasion if necessary, the Japanese Emperor opened up his country to world trade in 1908. A new beginning!

By 1917 the 1st World War was winding down. On December 9, 1917 Jerusalem was freed from Turkish control by the combined military forces of Great Britain and the United States under the command of the English General, Lord Allenby. Read Psalm 17 and Isaiah 31:4-5. This paved the way for the Jews to begin returning to the Holy Land. In the next few months all fighting ceased and an Armistice was signed on November 11,
1918 ushering in a new era [for a short time] of world peace. A new beginning!

In 1927 Europe was already in the midst of a collapsing economy and turmoil was everywhere. A group of disgruntled young radicals in Germany began seeking the cause of such economic chaos. They blamed all of Europe’s woes on the Jews in Europe, and especially those Jews in Germany. In 1928 the Nazi Party was organized with the express aim of taking over the German government and ridding Germany of the Jews. One of the charter members of the Nazi Party was…guess who? A new beginning!

In 1937 Adolph Hitler was busy expanding the borders of Germany through a show of military strength, coercing, demanding, threatening, and oppressing neighboring countries in Europe, and annexing parts or all of their territories to Germany. He was still blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems. The military arm of his Nazi Party was bitterly persecuting Jews in Germany and the annexed territories, while the rest of the world looked on silently. Jews were being falsely accused, imprisoned, beaten, tortured, etc. and the so-called “world community” was doing nothing. Finally, in 1938 war officially broke out in Europe and Hitler and his cronies put into effect their “Final Solution” to the Jewish problem. They began systematically exterminating the Jewish people in the gas chambers and ovens of their concentration camps. A new beginning!

In 1947, two years after the end of the 2nd World War, the United Nations approved a resolution dividing the land of Palestine into two states; one for the Arabs and the other for the Jews. The U.N. believed this would solve the conflict that had existed between Arabs and Jews since the implementation of the British Mandate following the 1st World War. The Jews hastily set up a provisional government, and when the British governor ended the British Mandate on May 14, 1948, David Ben Guiron, the Jewish provisional Prime Minister, publicly announced that the state of Israel was now an independent nation among the nations of the world. A new beginning!

In 1957 the Suez Canal war, which had broken out in 1956, came to an official end. As 1958 began a period of relative calm settled over the Middle East even though the Arab nations refused to sign a Peace Treaty and were still “technically” at a state of war with Israel. A new beginning!

In 1967 Egypt, Syria, and Jordan had united in a military alliance and were preparing to “drive Israel into the sea” [the exact words of Nassar of Egypt]. But Israel struck first in the now famous Six Day War. In that war Israel regained the whole city of Jerusalem, the entire west bank, and the entire Sinai peninsula. In the aftermath of the war the secular [non-religious] leaders of Israel gave the Temple Mount back to the Muslims and the Sinai back to Egypt. Because of their secular unbelief [Compare Numbers 14:26-35], in 1968 [Rosh HaShanah 1967 forward] Israel began 40 more years of servitude to the Gentile nations of the earth. Another new beginning!

In 1977, four years after the Yom Kippur war of 1973, negotiations began between Israel and Egypt to end their “state of war” and sign a permanent Peace Treaty. This effort was encouraged and mediated by then U. S. President Jimmy Carter. A Peace Treaty was signed between the two countries in 1978. A new beginning!

In 1987 Mikhail Gorbachev of Russia declared “perestroika” [openness] to all the Communist countries in the Soviet Union, beginning the process which ultimately led to the collapse of the whole USSR. At that time Ronald Reagan was President of the United States, and in a show of friendship invited Gorbachev to visit America. Gorbachev accepted the invitation, arriving in the U.S. on December 7, 1987 [Pearl Harbor Day] for an official visit. The next day, December 8, 1987, the Palestinian uprising began in Israel. Early in 1988 the Palestinian leaders called for the Muslim people to begin their first “Intifada” in Israel. A new beginning!

In 1997, four years after the agreement signed in 1993, negotiations were again taking place between Arafat of the Palestinians and Barak of Israel to find a “permanent” solution to the problems between the two peoples. The negotiations were being mediated by then U. S. President Bill Clinton. In 1998 a “Accord” was signed between the two parties, supposedly marking a new era of “peace.” A new beginning!

Folks, in writing this study, I didn’t have to stretch, strain, or invent anything. Everything I have pointed out is documented history. I ask you, the reader, did this all happen just this way by coincidence? Or was the unseen hand of God in it directing the affairs of men? Every year ending in seven during the past century a particular set of circumstances came to an end [was fulfilled or completed], and every year ending in eight there was a new beginning!

Now humanity has arrived at 2007. What now? What ending [fulfillment; completion] is the Lord going to bring to pass this year; 2007, that will result in a new beginning in 2008?
Glory! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! I THINK I KNOW! Do you?

“For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
gregg
An Egyptian man has died of the deadly H5N1 strain of the bird flu virus, bringing the number of fatalities in Egypt to 21, a World Health Organisation official said on Saturday. Cairo-based WHO official John Jabbour said the 19-year-old victim had died on Friday after falling ill after coming into contact with infected birds.)

An Egyptian woman has died of bird flu, the 22nd fatality and the 49th case of the disease among humans in Egypt. Wala Ahmed Abdel Galil, 30, from the northeast Cairo suburb of Mataria, fell ill after coming into contact with sick domestic birds, the agency said, quoting the Ministry of Health.)

The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife says about 60 dead Canada cackling geese have been recovered in recent days at Staats Lake in Keizer. Newspaper reports indicate large die-offs also occurred at the private lake in 2000, 2001, 2005 and 2007. ODFW migratory game bird coordinator Brad Bales says previous investigations linked bird fatalities to pesticide contamination and a fungal infection of the lungs. The lake itself has never been the culprit. Laboratory testing of the carcasses will be done at the National Wildlife Health Center in Madison, Wis. and results should be known within 10 days. The geese nest in western Alaska and come to the Willamette Valley during winter. They fly and roost in large flocks, often comprising several thousands of birds. )

On a hotter note:

Situation Update No. 2 On 15.04.2008 at 18:31 GMT+2 Open Close
The Nevado del Huila volcano in Columbia erupted late Monday night and led to a mass exodus by more than 15,000 people living near the base who feared the impending flow of lava and dangerous land and mudslides. According to the Colombian Institute of Geology and Mining the volcano was labeled a “Level Red,” signaling an eruption has occurred. Nevado del Huila is the highest volcano in Columbia at 17,602 feet. No deaths or injuries have been reported.


Situation Update No. 1 On 15.04.2008 at 13:33 GMT+2 Open Close
The highest active volcano in Colombia erupted Monday night, prompting authorities to order the evacuation of up to 15,000 people. The Nevado del Huila volcano erupted at 11:08 p.m. Monday (12:08 a.m. Tuesday ET), according to the Colombian Institute of Geology and Mining. Officials urged 13,000 to 15,000 people to evacuate, according to Caracol Radio, a radio station. There were no immediate reports of damage or injuries. The eruption amounted to a "Level Red" -- the institute's most severe designation for volcanoes -- but authorities told Caracol Radio that darkness made it difficult to gauge precisely what had happened. Monitoring equipment confirmed an eruption, but authorities do not know whether it has produced a column of smoke or spilled lava, Marta Cavache, an official with the Colombian Institute of Geology and Mining, told the radio station. Authorities warned of possible avalanches and urged local officials to monitor the volume of rivers near the volcano, Caracol reported. Nevado del Huila, about 155 miles (250 kilometers) southwest of Bogota, has a summit of 17,598 feet (5,364 meters).
LoisFaith2000
The earth will continue to experience great turmoil as this spiritual conflict rages. There will be many earthquakes, volcanoes, viruses and diseases, disruptions in the seas, and other forms of natural calamities. God's people must learn to take authority over these issues and exercise dominion.

Because mankind is out of harmony with God, so also is nature. The indications in nature are a reflection of the condition of mankind in general. Only those possessing God's Spirit can begin to offer resistance or speak coverings of protection and grace. This is the condition that was predicted for the end-of-the-age.

A HOLY SHAKE UP

We're in the midst of a "holy shake up" by God in the earth, and earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunami's, etc., are natural signs of that.

But what does it all mean?
Justice
Of course we are going home soon. I have been saying that now since mid February.
Justice
Pastor Riley, every event has a beginning and an end. You seem surpised that it has. Well the conclusion that God guides us all the way is of course right, but the argumentation is rather as basic as it gets. But I am glad you finally see the Hand of God!

The death squads in Colombia will now pout, as the volcanoe erupts and throws sut in their meal. The evacuation of the people is the quickest way to provide safety for the innocent. Now let the lava rain on those death squads in the jungle.

Jimmy Carter, please mention to Hamas that I have seen the Gaza strip as a Hamas Fried Chicken zone, maybe it helps american economy.

Everyone now thinks that the USA will hit Iran. Probably the US generals already went into the spinal reflex of ground war preps, but I tell you THAT IT WILL NOT BE SO. God has said it will be different. The aggressor is (and will continue to be) Iran, not the US. Big difference, especially in goodwill afterwards.

Finally and last, as I said many more times: The American elections is a circus and of no use to what will transpire next. The next president of the USA is Jesus Christ (not Obama, not Clinton, not McCain).
LoisFaith2000
16 Apr 08

4 Hamas gunmen/ 3 Israelis soldiers killed in Gaza
Source: U.S. Strike on Iran Nearing
Hizbullah Planning Offensive on Israeli Territory
John Hagee raises millions for Israel
Arab Funding Built the Carter Library
We will Conquer Rome



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In 2005, Jason Beghe appeared in promotional spots for the Church of Scientology. But now, Beghe has escaped the church after taking courses since 1994. This is what he has to ay: "Scientology is destructive and a rip-off."

Bill Calling for Castration of Sex Offenders Passes Louisiana Senate
The most serious sex crimes should be punishable by castration, with drugs or surgery, the Louisiana Senate voted on Tuesday. The bill by Sen. Nick Gautreaux, D-Meaux, would give judges the option of imposing chemical castration on those convicted of sex crimes including aggravated rape, simple rape and indecent behavior with a juvenile. Chemical castration would be mandatory on second offenses, and the offender would have the option of choosing physical castration instead.

Palestinians: 4 killed in IDF Gaza ops
Palestinians reported that four people, including the Islamic Jihad commander in northern Gaza, were killed during IDF operations on Wednesday. Slideshow: Pictures of the week According to reports, the Jihad commander was targeted by an IAF missile while he was riding a motorcyle in the Jabalya refugee camp. The group identified the man as Mohammed Ghausain.

Poll shows Arabs' dislike for US
Eight out of 10 people in the Arab world have a negative view of the US, according to a new poll.


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15 Apr 08

Famine and Starvation Looms
"Two words not in common currency in recent years - Famine and Starvation - are now being raised as distinct possibilities in the poorest, food-importing countries."-Fatal food riots in Haiti. Violent food-price protests in Egypt and Ivory Coast. Rice so valuable it is transported in armoured convoys. Soldiers guarding fields and warehouses. Export bans to keep local populations from starving..

Spain Withers in Drought
Spain is wilting under the severest drought in six decades, forcing farmers in Europe's citrus grove to cut forecasts for this year's harvest and compromising power generation as reservoirs dry up."Our farmers are looking skyward every day waiting for rain. The situation is severe and could deteriorate soon," said Ste