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LoisFaith2000
FBI source: Hezbollah terror threat in the U.S.


http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Hez021608

16 February 2008: Late yesterday, Northeast Intelligence Network director Doug Hagmann spoke with a well-placed FBI source who confirmed that the threat of terrorist attacks inside the U.S. by Hezbollah terrorist operatives living in America is currently at "an unprecedented level" The threat level has risen due to Tuesday's car-bomb assassination of Imad Mughniyah, a top Hezbollah leader.

According to this source, there are "literally hundreds, if not thousands of Hezbollah members with attack capabilities in the U.S., and tens of thousands more Hezbollah operatives who support the Muslim terrorist organization through financing and recruitment."

Following the death of Mughniyah, Hezbollah leaders urged members to avenge his death by attacking Jewish and American targets. While most U.S. intelligence officials believe the threat is greater to U.S. and Israeli assets abroad, the flurry of intelligence bulletins, confidential memos and warnings issued to law enforcement agencies across the U.S. indicate that there is more than an abundance of caution at play.

"Because of Mughniyah’s position within the organization, retaliation is a near certainty, it's just a matter of timing and location" stated this FBI source. "Hezbollah is very well organized and extremely well financed, funded largely by the Iranian government. Their attack capabilities are perhaps the best of all Muslim terror groups at present, especially in the U.S." added this source.

Although the various bulletins and warnings identify no specific threat or target, law enforcement agencies have been advised to increase protective measures for government buildings, Jewish institutions and other potential targets.




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Frank R Molver (21 Feb 2008)
"vision of a NY tower destroyed."


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I hope this was just a bad dream, if not then this is not good. Last night I saw a sky filled with a tremendous amount of debree. I thought a nuke had went off. As I focused I saw that it came from what was once a tall NYC building. All that was left was the foundation. It seemed as if above that it just disinigrated into debree and floated off into the atmosphere. I do not know what kind of a weapon could do that. There was a reporter there shortly after, it seemed as if the AL Quida had been responsibe once again. I had an awful helpless feeling watching this, just like the time the towers were destroyed. Its been quite awhile since this has happened. Check this link for related article.



http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Hez021608
LoisFaith2000
Re: "PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT" IN JERUSALEM WITHIN WEEKS 2/18 on: Today at 06:57:47am
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull
LoisFaith2000
Timothy Snodgrass

Lunar Eclipse - Banda Aceh Quake
Timothy Snodgrass
Feb 20 2008 06:22AM

Earthquake??????
LUNAR ECLIPSE - BANDA ACEH QUAKE

February 20, 2008

Three days ago we received a prophetic word that a large earthquake would jolt the earth sometime within the general time-frame of the full lunar eclipse (roughly between February 20-21). We just received notification of the 7.5 quake that shook Banda Aceh, Indonesia south of our position in the Philippines several hours ago. We are hoping that this quake was the main event, and that no further quakes will manifest. In one sense, the earth is like a bell, and often when a significant earthquake shakes one part of the globe, the vibrations of that quake will shortly echoe on the other side of the globe. As far as we are concerned, the prophetic word we received regarding this quake has already come to pass. However, it would be wise to remain alert over the next several days, just in case the Banda Aceh quake was not the main event.

Blessings,

Timothy Snodgrass
Philippines
LoisFaith2000
1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / IDF launches wartime television studio 2/21 on: Today at 07:20:39am
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3509359,00.html


2 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / WHY WON'T JUANITA BYNUM GIVE DEPOSITION??? 2/21 on: Today at 07:17:17am
ATLANTA -- Lawyers for the estranged husband of televangelist Juanita Bynum have been trying to get her side of the story for four months. But they say she keeps postponing her appointment.

Last month, Bynum was ordered by a Superior Court judge in Gwinnett County to appear for a deposition Monday. The attorneys for Thomas Weeks III waited until 3 p.m. for her to show up.

full story: http://www.cbs46.com/fultonnews/15334519/detail.html


3 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / JAN CROUCH AND HAITIAN CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL! 2/21 on: Today at 07:14:25am
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wo...1&cset=true


4 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: "PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT" IN JERUSALEM WITHIN WEEKS 2/18 on: Today at 06:57:47am
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...icle%2FShowFull

America's Economy Risks
mother of all meltdowns

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/4d19518c-df0d-11dc...;nclick_check=1
LoisFaith2000
Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / CHINA ON ALERT 2/21 on: Today at 07:37:22am
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331611,00.html


Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: US TO SHOOT DOWN DISABLED SATELLITE 2/14 on: Today at 07:34:20am

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331642,00.html

Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: 6.3 MAGNITUDE...NEVADA 2/21 on: Today at 07:32:58am

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331649,00.html
LoisFaith2000
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February 21, 2008

Madagascar: Violence of Cyclone Ivan Overwhelms Careful Preparations
As initial assessments shed light on the extensive damage caused by Cyclone Ivan earlier this week, Madagascar is bracing itself for another onslaught as Cyclone Hondo picks up and heads for the island's east coast.

Vaccine-resistant flu bug found in Canada
The influenza virus has mutated into a strain resistant to an antiviral drug that world governments have been stockpiling for years to stave off a super-flu pandemic.-Mutated flu viruses in 10 European countries, the United States, Australia, Hong Kong and Canada have been found resistant to the Tamiflu vaccine, according to the World Health Organization. Tamiflu is widely used to guard against Influenza A and B.

Iran, Russia to set up joint energy company
Iran�s Oil Minister Gholam-Hussein Nozari has announced that Tehran will soon close a deal with Russia�s Gazprom to form a joint company for implementing energy projects.

Russian energy ties with Iran send U.S. a message
As the United States warns the world away from business with Tehran, Moscow's tightening ties to Iran's energy sector underline Russia's differences with Washington over Iranian nuclear plans and Kosovo's independence.

Ashkenazi warns of war on the horizon
IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi warned the army on Wednesday to be ready for a new conflagration in the region."There are dangers to our survival on the horizon and great challenges to Israeli security. The IDF needs to ensure a rapid victory in any conflict and I cannot guarantee that we won't need to act in the near future," Ashkenazi said.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...ticle%2FPrinter

Barak to Assad: Israel to up fight against Hamas, Hizbullah
Defense Minister Ehud Barak relayed a message to Syrian President Bashar Assad through the Turkish president that Israel plans to escalate militarily the situation with Hizbullah and Hamas, the London-based newspaper, Al-Hayat reported on Thursday.

Palestinians 'may declare state'
A senior Palestinian official has said the Palestinians ought to unilaterally declare a state if peace talks with Israel do not succeed.

Norway's biggest quake hits Svalbard archipelago
An earthquake of 6.2 magnitude -- the biggest in Norwegian history -- jolted the thinly populated Svalbard archipelago in the Arctic on Wednesday night, the Norsar seismic research institute said on Thursday.

Israel, Syria holding high-level talks
Toppassing official messages on a regular basis to Syrian President Bashar Assad regarding Israel's willingness to negotiate over the Golan. diplomatic sources in Jerusalem confirmed Defense Minister Ehud Barak, a former prime minister, has been

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=56884

California exodus turns to stampede
"When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state," says a report called "Rich States, Poor States" by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore.

Vatican issues guide to making saints
The Vatican has issued a new guide to saint making that it hopes will clarify and streamline the process of singling out souls for Catholicism's highest honour.

Stop Blair: Ambition to lead Europe hits opposition
Tony Blair's hopes of becoming Europe's first president are running into mounting opposition across the EU, with Germany determined to stymie the former prime minister.

Israel Faces Certain Death: Iran's Leader Advises

Kremlin's plans for Christian curriculum in schools have Russian Jews worried

Barak to Assad: Israel to up fight against Hamas, Hizbullah

Is it likely that Netanyahu(Bibi) will run for PM of Israel and win?

UN Chief: Ahmadinejad's verbal attacks on Israel intolerable
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Google To Store Patients' Health Records

Two US Air Force Planes Crash Over Gulf of Mexico

Government announces kids' database

China wants US to share secrets


MCCAIN: REPORTS NOT TRUE
2/21 on: Today at 06:27:09am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23271556/

Communist Party Endorses Barak Obama
OBAMA POLICIES (BABY STEPS TOWARDS SOCIALISM?)
1. Obama wants to roll back Bush tax cuts and raise taxes even though we are being taxed nearly 600% higher than we were 100 years ago
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/

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Communist Party USA
This was also reflected in the historic election of Barack Obama. Our Party actively supported Obama during the primary election. Once again Obama’s campaign reflected the electoral voting unity of the African American community, but also the alliances built with several key trade unions, and forces in the Latino and white communities.
It also reflected a breakthrough among white voters. In the primary, Obama won 35% of the white vote and 7 north side wards, in a crowded field. During the general election he won every ward in the city and all the collar counties. This appeal has continued in his presidential run.
LoisFaith2000
smile.gif 1dsz5e4.gif Watching and praying...I think that shoot down was a military message to somebody...probably russia and china...and I hope it worked!!! We are in a very dangerous window I can feel it.... mad.gif happy.gif
gregg
It worked and it fell where they said it would fall.

There is news coverage from somewhere in Washington that everbody said was a meteor. Well, no. It was the satellite.
LoisFaith2000


Protesters Break Into U.S. Embassy in Serbia, Start Fire, Over Kosovo Independence

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A handful of protesters stormed the U.S. embassy in Belgrade, Serbia, on Thursday and started a fire in protest over Kosovo's declaration of independence earlier this week, according to wire reports.

Crowds outside cheered and chanted, egging the demonstrators on as they broke into the building, Reuters reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331695,00.html

I'm watching some of the coverage right now. Sounds like a Russian backed protest?

I'm watching also, it looks like they are burning our flag and started the embassy on fire...

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Go to fox news homepage and see the photo
Lots of smoke.



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Why are they doing this? What did we have to do with Kosovo's independence?



Good question Some of this stuff is just way over my head, too much going on in too many places..........


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Just had a thought! The Serbs started WW1.


Why are they doing this? What did we have to do with Kosovo's independence?


It seems that the Russians are really upset that the U.S. was so quick to give 'verbal' support to Kosovo's independence.

Here's a google link with more info. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s.....nce&spell=1


that is the spark that started the great war the assisnation of an archduke and his wife I think his name was Ferdinan?

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They are attacking the US Embassy because the US recognize Kosovo's declaration of independence. They are really angry!!! Could this lead to more issues I wonder?! Isn't cool how we can see this happening as it happens!!


What a big mess!



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The Serbs are angry over US support for the new nation of Kosovo and earlier 150,000 people had taken part in a protest rally in the city centre.

They jeered and booed every mention of America and the EU as Tomislav Nikolic of the ultra-nationalist Radical Party accused them of being responsible for the "theft" of Kosovo.

The crowd waved Serbian flags and carried signs reading "Stop USA terror." One group set fire to a red-and-black Albanian flag. Most of Kosovo's population is ethnic Albanian.

http://ukpress.google.com/article/AL...OeK1SlEYMnubRQ
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Why are they doing this? What did we have to do with Kosovo's independence?

You must be joking ? The US supports it !
And while I am a proud American I certainly can understand why the protesters in Belgrade would o this, as a matter of fact if I was back in Belgrade I just might join them !


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I'm not sure what is going on. Could someone explain it. I thougt I heard them report that Belgrade is Christian. Are the Serbs not wanting the Christians to have their independence? Or am I really off base. Help!


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I work at a large teaching hospital....with many women who have immigrated from both Kosovo and Serbia....and it gives me just the smallest glimpse of what's going on between these two countries. They are practically at each others throats since Kosovo's independence. I'm friends with all the women...and this one says one thing about that one. I've recently introduced the video "Joshua" to one of them...simply stating it's a movie surrounding the premise of "what if Jesus came to your town today". The tag line is...."Hope has a name". If you've never seen it...oh my.......what a blessing...Tony Goldwyn plays the role of "Joshua"....it's the first movie I've seen that, for me, made me see Jesus a totally new way...it's uplifting and made me weep! It's worth the viewing time. Sorry if I derailed in anyway.

PS...there is a "waiting list" for the movie by the way! Hope the Lord touches these souls...one commented...but I'm not a Christian...I said, you don't need to be a Christian to watch this movie. I hope the Holy Spirit begins whispering their names and begins calling them..


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Fox has just confirmed- Now the are reporting that a charred body was found inside the US Embassy
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the kosovoans(?) are moslems. the serbs are mostly orthodox christians I think


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The EU backs it too. Are they burning THEIR embassy down? Are they making posters telling THEM to butt out? I am not saying the government is an angel. I am very upset with some of the things that they are doing as well but come on! Why is it that the whole world is so quick to condemn the US and not the other parties involved? I am surprised that Israel isn't being blamed for this! rated


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Fox has just confirmed- Now the are reporting that a charred body was found inside the US Embassy

Oh no! I was just wondering if anyone has died in this fire. How horrible. In reality, these people in the embassy had nothing to do with this! rated AGAIN!

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I'm not sure what is going on. Could someone explain it. I thougt I heard them report that Belgrade is Christian. Are the Serbs not wanting the Christians to have their independence? Or am I really off base. Help!

The city of Belgrade may be Christian. The Serbs are mostly Christian as in Eastern Orthodox Christianity, but Serbia has a long and complicated history. The Serbs all trace their heritage back to Serbia, but have spread out all over during history. This area of Serbia, that we are calling Kosovo, is mostly ethnic Alabanians, which is mostly Muslim. During the recent war there, the Serbs under the leadership of Milosivich started "ethnically cleansing" the area of all Muslims. After we stopped the 'ethnic' cleansing, the folks in Kosovo felt they could not trust the Serbs to protect them. ( after Milosivich they had good reason). Anyway, that's the reason that Kosovo declaired it's independence.

The Russians of course, don't want anyone breaking away from the Old Soviet Union. They don't really want to help the people, but they have this thing about 'ownership'. It's in their genes. Therfore, they are still in their causing trouble because they don't like country declareing their independence. It's a real mess!

Here's a google page with tons of info about this volitile area of the world. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search


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Protesters burn U.S. embassy in Serbia

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Body reportedly found; tension over Kosovo independence


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The city of Belgrade may be Christian. The Serbs are mostly Christian as in Eastern Orthodox Christianity, but Serbia has a long and complicated history. The Serbs all trace their heritage back to Serbia, but have spread out all over during history. This area of Serbia, that we are calling Kosovo, is mostly ethnic Alabanians, which is mostly Muslim. During the recent war there, the Serbs under the leadership of Milosivich started "ethnically cleansing" the area of all Muslims. After we stopped the 'ethnic' cleansing, the folks in Kosovo felt they could not trust the Serbs to protect them. ( after Milosivich they had good reason). Anyway, that's the reason that Kosovo declaired it's independence.

The Russians of course, don't want anyone breaking away from the Old Soviet Union. They don't really want to help the people, but they have this thing about 'ownership'. It's in their genes. Therfore, they are still in their causing trouble because they don't like country declareing their independence. It's a real mess!

Here's a google page with tons of info about this volitile area of the world. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

Thank you. That helps.

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They're reporting on Fox that the city officials in Belgrade,(which are Serbian) are recruiting and providing transportation for people from all over the country to come into the city to demonstrate.

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The EU backs it too. Are they burning THEIR embassy down? Are they making posters telling THEM to butt out? I am not saying the government is an angel. I am very upset with some of the things that they are doing as well but come on! Why is it that the whole world is so quick to condemn the US and not the other parties involved? I am surprised that Israel isn't being blamed for this! rated


That was my first thought. It angers me that others backed this but we are the only ones being "blamed". grrrrrrrr

LoisFaith2000

1 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / Re: 6.3 MAGNITUDE...NEVADA 2/21 on: Today at 02:06:12pm
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Earth_Chan....NV.6.0.EQ.html


8 Christian Fellowship: / NEWS Corner / SERB PROTESTORS ATTACK US EMBASSY 2/21 on: Today at 11:02:10am
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/21...ence/index.html


Mercy
I am crying. Madagascar is a unique ecosystem,
and as such, one of the few parts of Creation
that man has not invaded yet to destroy.

Why do You, My Lord choose to start with the gems?
I can tell that You are really angry by now.
But here is the fact as I see it:
You do not believe that man can find the key
to your Word.
It did not matter to You that we said:
look the Word is a Mirror of Love and Hate.
It did not matter to You that we said:
God made Creation, we marvel at Your Hand.
It did not matter to You that we said:
God is Love, no way He is destroying His own Work.

Very well, although I cry my heart out to You
I can not stop You in Your decision.
I marvel at Creation, then I go down with it.
Do not call me up for Heaven,
I stay with what I loved.

I cry my heart out
thank you for your fun time.

No more, no more.
Goodbye.

LoisFaith2000
On the Temple Mount God is speaking
Posted: Thursday, February 21, 2008



There has never been a time in human history as dangerous as the one we now live. For those who don’t believe God is bringing His judgment to the entire world I offer one picture that may be the most severe warning we could receive from God, for there is no place on earth that He is more concerned over than the Temple Mount. For judgment always begins in the house of God and if there is one place on earth that is said to be His House and where His Spirit dwells it is the Temple Mount (Psalm 132:13-14 and 15:1) just to mention a couple references in His Holy Word. We know that by One Spirit are we all baptized into one body that the Ruach Ha Kodesh (Holy Spirit) dwells in us and us in Him) but my brothers and sisters when God clearly says His Spirit dwells in a place for ever we need to believe it. Connie and I have been going to the Temple Mount and the Western Wall for over 25 years on a regular basis and I can tell you as a Jew who knows Yeshua as Messiah that His Spirit does dwell in this place.



This past Friday we had the second earthquake in one week it was 5.3 that shook much of Israel. God is saying first to the Jew you are about to feel the full blunt of my anger. The Temple Mount was shaken to the core and an opening appeared on the Temple Mount. A hole measuring over 6-feet long, 3-feet deep and 5-feet wide, many of the buildings in the Old city suffered damaged.







At a time when Israel is being sold down the river to the enemies of God. At a time when Iran is about to realize its nuclear ambitions, too hold the world at bay while they try to destroy Israel. At a time when Hamas and Hezbollah backed by Iran and Syria are making plans to launch another war that they believe will destroy or weaken Israel to the point that Iran and the rest the Islamic Arab world can finish Israel off.



Today we hear that NATO is being asked to put together a multinational force (Armies) to come into Judean and Samaria and make sure there is a Palestine State. God said that when we see Jerusalem compassed with armies, and then know that the desolation thereof is neigh. Luke 21:20… For God said He would bring all Nations against Jerusalem and then He says that He will destroy all the Nations that come against Jerusalem, this can only be understood in the Spirit for God will not be mocked and His Word will come to pass. It isn’t any stretch for us to say that this is the most dangerous times man has ever faced on planet earth.



One might say why then bring Jews to Israel, the answer is simple, God said to. His Word is also full of promise to bring His people the Jews back to this land. (Jer.16:14-16) some will say God did that in 1948 but was God finished with this re-gathering of His people for we read in Isaiah 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros and from Cush and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the Islands of the sea.



You see God is not finished with the gathering of His people for He has called me and others to prepare to gather them from the Islands of the sea and with our dying breath we will do just that. You see when God calls you to do something the only thing that will be judged by God is your works not what you may consider success or failure for God has plans that you and I are simply not aware of or would even be able to understand much less like. I’ve been told a thousands times that what I am doing will be impossible; well I serve a God that works is that realm and He knows our comings and goings our past present and our future.



From the first day I’ve felt and understood how Noah must have felt, not that I’m in that category but I have suffered through much of the same criticism. We have noticed however that now about 5 years later it is becoming easier to see that God had spoken to me and others to prepare. For there is no doubt that another Holocaust is on the near horizon in Europe and Jews will soon be running for their lives and the only possible way for them to get home to Israel will be by boat. Will boats be safe coming across the Eastern Mediterranean full of Jews, who knows, but one thing you can count on we will be doing and believing God to make the way safe for us. There was a prophecy given in Cyprus a few months ago that said that around our boats there would be a wall of fire, God then showed me that we will not see the fire but the enemy will.



The second most asked question is when we will need the boats, again who knows, only God knows. But one thing is certain if we wait until we need them it will too late. It’s like the years of ground work we have been doing in Cyprus, Turkey and elsewhere throughout the Eastern Mediterranean. The routes and safe houses have to be in place long before and there has to be organization and communication. We now have many safe houses throughout the region and many in the US as well.



None of this could have been accomplished had God not touched those who have been obedient to God for in the beginning the vision God gave me seems way out there to say the least. It took all the courage I could put together to even proclaim that I had heard from God to buy boats and start making the way. But today I am not stuttering and not ashamed I tell you that if God has touched you to be part of this Ministry now is the time for your response, if you have already responded I can only say thank you a million times for without shame to save even one Jewish life will be worth my begging clawing and fighting. Many read these reports and say they don’t like the fact that I ask for your help, all can say to these wonderful folks, is get over it, for this is a Ministry not a news agency.



We have located two boats of which either would be what we need at this time, we are of course short on purchasing capital, and I know that God is speaking to many who are reading this report and have been reading my site for years. Well before your dollars are totally worthless now you can make an investment in eternity.



Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel and all the IDF soldiers, pray for this Ministry and your part in it. Shalom, jerry golden

LoisFaith2000
Kremlin's plans for Christian curriculum in schools have Russian Jews worried
US gives IAEA information on Teheran's attempts to make nuclear weapons
Russia offers to host, finance Israel 60 anniversary events in Moscow
European Parliament resolution urges end to Gaza blockade
Bibi's Website
Iranian official: Countdown to Israel's destruction has begun
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956744.html

see T A L K B A C K S....excellent
LoisFaith2000


Iranian official: Countdown to Israel's destruction has begun
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956744.html

see T A L K B A C K S....excellent


Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon promised Wednesday to respond "firmly" to Ahmadinejad's verbal attacks on Israel, which he called "intolerable."

Ban made the promise in a meeting with Israel's Ambassador to the UN Dan Gillerman, who requested the meeting with the UN chief.


Apparently the UN's Secretary General, Ban Ki-Moon doesn't exactly have them shaking in their boots yet.

I'm just tired of their big mouths, and threats.

It's getting ridiculous......the world just sits idly by. I guess masses of people have to die before anything is done.

The only problem with his declaration, is that you have to be able to count to do a countdown!

I can see him now with his fingers out saying "ten-nine-three...no no no DO OVER!! ten-eight-seven......NO NO NO! I can get this! ten....." His second in command "sir, the next one is nine" "Oh right! nine....eight?" (looking for approval from his second...

The only problem with his declaration, is that you have to be able to count to do a countdown!

Really!!! If he started a countdown last year and now here's another, it probably means he should go back to kindergarten.

Makes you wonder about his IQ. Then again, maniacs often get distracted since they have so many evil deeds going on all at once.
LoisFaith2000

OK. This creeps me out!
Protesters Break Into U.S. Embassy in Serbia, Start Fire, Over Kosovo Independence
Almost lost 3 Senators!
Government announces kids' database
Stand With Our Military
Lavrov Lashes Out Over Kosovo
Kremlin Troubled By Kosovo Declaration
Google To Store Patients' Health Records
Bird flu remains dangerous as it continues to mutate
Ashkenazi warns of war on the horizon
6.3 Earthquake in Nevada!
Navy missile hits spy satellite
US Offers Some Satellite Strike Data To China
Strong earthquake in NORWAY !!
China wants US to share secrets
Al Qaeda's Newest Tactic...
Court-favored Islam … in America
Greece is "rockin"

LoisFaith2000

Globalism and World Government


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Forum trolls, be advised that I will only answer objective lines of questioning.

1min : 47sec video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and The New World Order
- By William Blase

For those who may be confused by the controversies surrounding the "New World Order", a One-World-Government, and American concern over giving the UN more power; those unaware of the issues involved; and those wishing more background, I offer the following.

Originally presented for an Honors Class, "Dilemmas of War and Peace," at New Mexico State University, the paper was ridiculed and characterized by Dr. Yosef Lapid, (an acknowledged and locally quoted "expert" on Terrorism and Middle Eastern affairs) as "paranoid... possibly a symptom of mental illness." You may judge for yourself.

Citing source data is the "scientific method," but does not seem to apply to "Conspiracy Theories." A thousand sources may be quoted, yet will not convince the "skeptics," the "realists." It seems to me the "symptoms of mental illness" are on their side, if they refuse to look at evidence ("There are none so blind as those who WILL not see"); or perhaps something more sinister is at work, such as a knowledge of the truth, that does not want YOU to know.

To be paranoid means to believe in delusions of danger and persecution. If the danger is real, and the evidence credible, then it cannot be delusional. To ignore the evidence, and hope that it CANNOT be true, is more an evidence of mental illness.

The issue involves much more than a difference of philosophy, or political viewpoint. Growing up in the midst of the "Cold War," our generation were taught that those who attempted to abolish our national sovereignty and overthrow our Constitutional government were committing acts of treason. Please judge for yourself if the group discussed is guilty of such.

If one group is effectively in control of national governments and multinational corporations; promotes world government through control of media, foundation grants, and education; and controls and guides the issues of the day; then they control most options available. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and the financial powers behind it, have done all these things, and promote the "New World Order", as they have for over seventy years.

The CFR is the promotional arm of the Ruling Elite in the United States of America. Most influential politicians, academics and media personalities are members, and it uses its influence to infiltrate the New World Order into American life. Its' "experts" write scholarly pieces to be used in decision making, the academics expound on the wisdom of a united world, and the media members disseminate the message.

To understand how the most influential people in America came to be members of an organization working purposefully for the overthrow of the Constitution and American sovereignty, we have to go back at least to the early 1900's, though the story begins much earlier (depending on your viewpoint and beliefs).

That a ruling power elite does indeed control the U.S. government behind the scenes has been attested to by many americans in a position to know. Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." February 23, 1954,

Senator William Jenner warned in a speech: "Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded."

Baron M.A. Rothschild wrote, "Give me control over a nation's currency and I care not who makes its laws."

All that is needed to effectively control a government is to have control over the nation's money: a central bank with a monopoly over the supply of money and credit. This had been done in Western Europe, with the creation of privately owned central banks such as the Bank of England.

Georgetown professor Dr. Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's mentor while at Georgetown) wrote about the goals of the investment bankers who control central banks: "... nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole... controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."

The Bank of the United States (1816-36), an early attempt at an American central bank, was abolished by President Andrew Jackson, who believed that it threatened the nation. He wrote: "The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government, the distress it had wantonly produced...are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it."

Thomas Jefferson wrote: "The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution...if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Does that not describe the situation in America today?

The U.S. managed to do without a central bank until early in this century, when, according to Congressman Charles Lindbergh, Sr., "The Money Trust caused the 1907 panic, and thereby forced Congress to create a National Monetary Commission." Headed by Senator Nelson Aldrich, father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller, Jr., the Commission recommended creation of a central bank.

Though unconstitutional, as only "The Congress shall have Power...To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof..." (Article I, Section 8, U.S. Constitution) the Federal Reserve Act was passed in December 1913; ostensibly to stabilize the economy and prevent further panics, but as Lindberg warned Congress: "This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth...the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust investigation, will be legalized." The Great Depression and numerous recessions later, it is obvious the Federal Reserve produces inflation and federal debt whenever it desires, but not stability.

Congressman Louis McFadden, House Committee on Banking and Currency Chairman (1920-31), stated: "When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and industrialists...acting together to enslave the world...Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers but the truth is--the Fed has usurped the government."

Although called "Federal," the Federal Reserve system is privately owned by member banks, makes its own policies, and is not subject to oversight by Congress or the President. As the overseer and supplier of reserves, the Fed gave banks access to public funds, which enhanced their lending capacity.

Peter Kershaw, in "Economic Solutions" lists the ten major shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank System as: Rothschild: London and Berlin; Lazard Bros: Paris; Israel Seiff: Italy; Kuhn- Loeb Company: Germany; Warburg: Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Bros: New York; Goldman and Sachs: New York; Rockefeller: New York. (That most, if not all of these families just happen to be Jewish, you may judge the significance of yourself). The balance of stock is owned by major commercial member banks.

According to Devvy Kidd, "Why A Bankrupt America?" The Federal Reserve pays the Bureau of Engraving & Printing approximately $23 for each 1,000 notes printed. 10,000 $100 notes (one million dollars) would thus cost the Federal Reserve $230. They then secure a pledge of collateral equal to the face value from the U.S. government. The collateral is our land, labor, and assets... collected by their agents, the IRS. By authorizing the Fed to regulate and create money (and thus inflation), Congress gave private banks power to create profits at will.

As Lindberg put it: "The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation...they can unload the stocks on the people at high prices during the excitement and then bring on a panic and buy them back at low prices...the day of reckoning is only a few years removed." That day came in 1929, with the Stock Market crash and Great Depression.

One of the most important powers given to the Fed was the right to buy and sell government securities, and provide loans to member banks so they might also purchase them. This provided another built-in mechanism for profit to the banks, if government debt was increased. All that was needed was a method to pay off the debt. This was accomplished through the passage of the income tax in 1913.

A national income tax was declared unconstitutional in 1895 by the Supreme Court, so a constitutional amendment was proposed in Congress by none other than ...Senator Nelson Aldrich. As presented to the American people it seemed reasonable enough: income tax on only one percent of income under $20,000, with the assurance that it would never increase.

Since it was graduated, the tax would "soak the rich", ...but the rich had other plans, already devising a method of protecting wealth. As described by Gary Allen in his 1976 book "The Rockefeller File," "By the time the (16th) Amendment had been approved by the states, the Rockefeller Foundation was in full operation...about the same time that Judge Kenesaw Landis was ordering the breakup of the Standard Oil monopoly...John D...not only avoided taxes by creating four great tax-exempt foundations; he used them as repositories for his 'divested' interests...made his assets non-taxable so that they might be passed down through generations without...estate and gift taxes...Each year the Rockefellers can dump up to half their incomes into their pet foundations and deduct the "donations" from their income tax."

Exchanging ownership for control of wealth, foundations are also a handy means for promoting interests that benefit the wealthy. Millions of foundation dollars have been "donated" to causes such as promoting the use of drugs, while degrading preventive medicine. Since many drugs are made from coal tar derivatives, both oil companies and drug manufacturing concerns (many Rockefeller owned or controlled) are the main beneficiaries.

With the means to loan enormous sums to the government (the Federal Reserve), a method to repay the debt (income tax), and an escape from taxation for the wealthy, (foundations), all that remained was an excuse to borrow money. By some happy "coincidence," in 1914 World War I began, and after American participation national debt rose from $1 billion to $25 billion.

Woodrow Wilson was elected President in 1913, beating incumbent William Howard Taft, who had vowed to veto legislation establishing a central bank. To divide the Republican vote and elect the relatively unknown Wilson, J.P. Morgan and Co. poured money into the candidacy of Teddy Roosevelt and his Progressive Party.

According to an eyewitness, Wilson was brought to Democratic Party headquarters in 1912 by Bernard Baruch, a wealthy banker. He received an "indoctrination course" from those he met, and in return agreed, if elected: to support the projected Federal Reserve and the income tax, and "listen" to advice in case of war in Europe and on the composition of his cabinet.

Wilson's top advisor during his two terms was a man named Colonel Edward M. House. House's biographer, Charles Seymour, called him the "unseen guardian angel" of the Federal Reserve Act, helping to guide it through Congress. Another biographer wrote that House believed: "...the Constitution, product of eighteenth-century minds...was thoroughly outdated; that the country would be better off if the Constitution could be scrapped and rewritten..." House wrote a book entitled "Philip Dru: Administrator," published anonymously in 1912. The hero, Philip Dru, rules America and introduces radical changes, such as a graduated income tax, a central bank, and a "league of nations."

World War I produced both a large national debt, and huge profits for those who had backed Wilson. Baruch was appointed head of the War Industries Board, where he exercised dictatorial power over the national economy. He and the Rockefellers were reported to have earned over $200 million during the war. Wilson backer Cleveland Dodge sold munitions to the allies, while J.P. Morgan loaned them hundreds of millions, with the protection of U.S. entry into the war.

While profit was certainly a motive, the war was also useful to justify the notion of world government. William Hoar reveals in "Architects of Conspiracy" that during the 1950s, government investigators examining the records of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a long- time promoter of globalism, found that several years before the outbreak of World War I, the Carnegie trustees were planning to involve the U.S. in a general war, to set the stage for world government.

The main obstacle was that Americans did not want any involvement in European wars. Some kind of incident, such as the explosion of the battleship Main, which provoked the Spanish - American war, would have to be provided as provocation. This occurred when the Lusitania, carrying 128 Americans on board, was sunk by a German submarine, and anti-German sentiment was aroused. When war was declared, U.S. propaganda portrayed all Germans as Huns and fanged serpents, and all Americans opposing the war as traitors.

What was not revealed at the time, however, was that the Lusitania was transporting war munitions to England, making it a legitimate target for the Germans. Even so, they had taken out large ads in the New York papers, asking that Americans not take passage on the ship.

The evidence seems to point to a deliberate plan to have the ship sunk by the Germans. Colin Simpson, author of "The Lusitania," wrote that Winston Churchill, head of the British Admiralty during the war, had ordered a report to predict the political impact if a passenger ship carrying Americans was sunk. German naval codes had been broken by the British, who knew approximately where all U-boats near the British Isles were located.

According to Simpson, Commander Joseph Kenworthy, of British Naval Intelligence, stated: "The Lusitania was deliberately sent at considerably reduced speed into an area where a U-boat was known to be waiting...escorts withdrawn." Thus, even though Wilson had been reelected in 1916 with the slogan "He kept us out of war," America soon found itself fighting a European war. Actually, Colonel House had already negotiated a secret agreement with England, committing the U.S. to the conflict. It seems the American public had little say in the matter.

With the end of the war and the Versailles Treaty, which required severe war reparations from Germany, the way was paved for a leader in Germany such as Hitler. Wilson brought to the Paris Peace Conference his famous "fourteen points," with point fourteen being a proposal for a "general association of nations," which was to be the first step towards the goal of One World Government-the League of Nations.

Wilson's official biographer, Ray Stannard Baker, revealed that the League was not Wilson's idea. "...not a single idea--in the Covenant of the League was original with the President." Colonel House was the author of the Covenant, and Wilson had merely rewritten it to conform to his own phraseology.

The League of Nations was established, but it, and the plan for world government eventually failed because the U.S. Senate would not ratify the Versailles Treaty.

Pat Robertson, in "The New World Order," states that Colonel House, along with other internationalists, realized that America would not join any scheme for world government without a change in public opinion.

After a series of meetings, it was decided that an "Institute of International Affairs", with two branches, in the United States and England, would be formed.

The British branch became known as the Royal Institute of International Affairs, with leadership provided by members of the Round Table. Begun in the late 1800's by Cecil Rhodes, the Round Table aimed to federate the English speaking peoples of the world, and bring it under their rule.

The Council on Foreign Relations was incorporated as the American branch in New York on July 29, 1921. Founding members included Colonel House, and "...such potentates of international banking as J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, and Jacob Schiff...the same clique which had engineered the establishment of the Federal Reserve System," according to Gary Allen in the October 1972 issue of "AMERICAN OPINION."

The founding president of the CFR was John W. Davis, J.P. Morgan's personal attorney, while the vice-president was Paul Cravath, also representing the Morgan interests. Professor Carroll Quigley characterized the CFR as "...a front group for J.P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American Round Table Group." Over time Morgan influence was lost to the Rockefellers, who found that one world government fit their philosophy of business well. As John D. Rockefeller, Sr. had said: "Competition is a sin," and global monopoly fit their needs as they grew internationally.

Antony Sutton, a research fellow for the Hoover Institution for War, Revolution, and Peace at Stanford University, wrote of this philosophy: "While monopoly control of industries was once the objective of J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller, by the late nineteenth century the inner sanctums of Wall Street understood the most efficient way to gain an unchallenged monopoly was to 'go political' and make society go to work for the monopolists-- under the name of the public good and the public interest."

Frederick C. Howe revealed the strategy of using government in a 1906 book, "Confessions of a Monopolist": "These are the rules of big business...Get a monopoly; let society work for you; and remember that the best of all business is politics..."

As corporations went international, national monopolies could no longer protect their interests. What was needed was a one world system of government controlled from behind the scenes. This had been the plan since the time of Colonel House, and to implement it, it was necessary to weaken the U.S. politically and economically.

During the 1920's, America enjoyed a decade of prosperity, fueled by the easy availability of credit. Between 1923 and 1929 the Federal Reserve expanded the money supply by sixty-two percent. When the stock market crashed, many small investors were ruined, but not "insiders." In March of 1929 Paul Warburg issued a tip the Crash was coming, and the largest investors got out of the market, according to Allen and Abraham in "None Dare Call it Conspiracy."

With their fortunes intact, they were able to buy companies for a fraction of their worth. Shares that had sold for a dollar might now cost a nickel, and the buying power, and wealth, of the rich increased enormously.

Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking Committee declared: "It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence...The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all."

Curtis Dall, son-in-law of FDR and a syndicate manager for Lehman Brothers, an investment firm, was on the N.Y. Stock Exchange floor the day of the crash. In "FDR: My Exploited Father-In-Law," he states: "...it was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World-Money powers triggered by the planned sudden shortage of call money in the New York Market."

The Crash paved the way for the man Wall Street had groomed for the presidency, FDR. Portrayed as a "man of the little people", the reality was that Roosevelt's family had been involved in New York banking since the eighteenth century.

Frederic Delano, FDR's uncle, served on the original Federal Reserve Board. FDR attended Groton and Harvard, and in the 1920's worked on Wall Street, sitting on the board of directors of eleven different corporations.

Dall wrote of his father-in-law: "...Most of his thoughts, his political 'ammunition,'...were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the CFR-One World Money group. Brilliantly... he exploded that prepared 'ammunition' in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people--and thus paid off and retained his internationalist political support."

Taking America off the gold standard in 1934, FDR opened the way to unrestrained money supply expansion, decades of inflation--and credit revenues for banks. Raising gold prices from $20 an ounce to $35, FDR and Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr. (son of a founding CFR member), gave international bankers huge profits.

FDR's most remembered program, the New Deal, could only be financed through heavy borrowing. In effect, those who had caused the Depression loaned America the money to recover from it. Then, through the National Recovery Administration, proposed by Bernard Baruch in 1930, they were put in charge of regulating the economy. FDR appointed Baruch disciple Hugh Johnson to run the NRA, assisted by CFR member Gerard Swope. With broad powers to regulate wages, prices, and working conditions, it was, as Herbert Hoover wrote in his memoirs: "...pure fascism;...merely a remaking of Mussolini's 'corporate state'..." The Supreme Court eventually ruled the NRA unconstitutional.

During the FDR years, the Council on Foreign Relations captured the political life of the U.S. Besides Treasury Secretary Morgenthau, other CFR members included Secretary of State Edward Stettinus, War Secretary Henry Stimson, and Assistant Secretary of State Sumner Welles.

Since 1934 almost every United States Secretary of State has been a CFR member; and ALL Secretaries of War or Defense, from Henry L. Stimson through Richard Cheney.

The CIA has been under CFR control almost continuously since its creation, starting with Allen Dulles, founding member of the CFR and brother of Secretary of State under President Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles. Allen Dulles had been at the Paris Peace Conference, joined the CFR in 1926, and later became its president.

John Foster Dulles had been one of Woodrow Wilson's young proteges at the Paris Peace Conference. A founding member of the CFR...he was an in-law of the Rockefellers, Chairman of the Board of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Board Chairman of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

In 1940 FDR defeated internationalist Wendell Willkie, who wrote a book entitled "One World," and later became a CFR member. Congressman Usher Burdick protested at the time on the floor of the House that Willkie was being financed by J.P. Morgan and the New York utility bankers. Polls showed few Republicans favored him, yet the media portrayed him as THE Republican candidate.

Since that time nearly ALL presidential candidates have been CFR members. President Truman, who was not a member, was advised by a group of "wise men," all six of whom were CFR members, according to Gary Allen. In 1952 and 1956, CFR Adlai Stevenson challenged CFR Eisenhower.

In 1960, CFR Kennedy (who was probably killed because he had the courage NOT to go along with all their plans) CFR Nixon. In 1964 the GOP stunned the Establishment by nominating its candidate over Nelson Rockefeller.

Rockefeller and the CFR wing proceeded to picture Barry Goldwater as a dangerous radical. In 1968 CFR Nixon ran against CFR Humphrey. The 1972 "contest" featured CFR Nixon vs. CFR McGovern.

CFR candidates for president include George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Edmund Muskie, John Anderson, and Lloyd Bentsen. In 1976 we had Jimmy Carter, who is a member of the Trilateral Commission, created by David Rockefeller and CFR member Zbigniew Brzezinski with the goal of economic linkage between Japan, Europe, and the United States, and: "...managing the world economy...a smooth and peaceful evolution of the global system." We have also had (though his name strangely disappears from the membership list in 1979) CFR director (1977-79) George Bush, and last but not least, CFR member Bill Clinton.

They have all promoted the "New World Order," controlled by the United Nations. The problem is that "...the present United Nations organization is actually the creation of the CFR and is housed on land in Manhattan donated to it by the family of current CFR chairman David Rockefeller," as Pat Robertson describes it.

The original concept for the UN was the outcome of the Informal Agenda Group, formed in 1943 by Secretary of State Cordell Hull. All except Hull were CFR members, and Isaiah Bowman, a founding member of the CFR, originated the idea.

The American delegation to the San Francisco meeting that drafted the charter of the United Nations in 1949 included CFR members Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, John McCloy, and CFR members who were communist agents--Harry Dexter White, Owen Lattimore, and the Secretary-General of the conference, Alger Hiss. In all, the Council sent forty-seven of its members in the United States delegation, effectively controlling the outcome.

Since that time the CFR and its friends in the mass media (largely controlled by CFR members such as Katherine Graham of the "Washington Post" and Henry Luce of" Time, Life"), foundations, and political groups have lobbied consistently to grant the United Nations more authority and power. Bush and the Gulf War were but one of the latest calls for a "New World Order."

Admiral Chester Ward, a member of the CFR for over a decade, became one of its harshest critics, revealing its inner workings in a 1975 book, "Kissinger ON THE COUCH." In it he states "The most powerful cliques in these elitist groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and national independence of the United States."

Most members are one-world-government ideologists whose long- term goals were officially summed up in September 1961 State Department Document 7277, adopted by the Nixon Administration: "...elimination of all armed forces and armaments except those needed to maintain internal order within states and to furnish the United Nations with peace forces...by the time it (UN global government) would be so strong no nation could challenge it."

Within the CFR there exists a "much smaller group but more powerful...made up of Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in control of the global government ...This CFR faction is headed by the Rockefeller brothers," according to Ward.

What must be remembered is that this is not some lunatic- fringe group...these are members of one of the most powerful private organizations in the world: the people who determine and control American economic, social, political, and military policy. Members' influence and control extends to "leaders in academia, public service, business, and the media," according to the CFR 1993 "Annual Report."

Their founding they describe as: "American Participants in the Paris Peace Conference decided that it was time for more private Americans to become familiar with the increasing responsibilities and obligations of the United States...there was a need for an organization able to provide for the continuous study of U.S. foreign police for the BENEFIT OF ITS MEMBERS (emphasis mine) and a wider audience of interested Americans."

They sponsor hundreds of programs, where members "exchange views with American and foreign officials and policy experts... discuss foreign policy issues...consider international issues of concern to the business community" (Corporate business), and "...affiliated groups of community leaders throughout the United states...meet with decision makers."

The CFR states that it is "host to many views, advocate of none," and it "has no affiliation with the U.S. government." No, no affiliation at all, if you don't count: "A Council member was elected president of the United States...Dozens of other Council colleagues were called to serve in cabinet and sub-cabinet positions," as they describe it in "Foreign Affairs," along with many members of Congress, the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs, the Federal Reserve, and many other Federal bureaucrats.

They are not AFFILIATED with government, they ARE the government, in effect.

One re-occurring view was stated in the 50th anniversary issue of "Foreign Affairs," the official publication of the CFR. In an article by Kingman Brewster, Jr. entitled "Reflections on Our National Purpose." Our purpose should be, according to him, to do away with our nationality, to "take some risks in order to invite others to pool their sovereignty with ours..."

These "risks" include disarming to the point where we would be helpless against the "peace-keeping" forces of a global UN government. We should happily surrender our sovereignty to the world government in the interests of the "world community."

Today we have the spectacle of Spc. 4 Michael New, a U.S. soldier in Germany who refuses to wear the uniform of the UN, facing an "administrative discharge." He states rightly that he swore an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution, not the United Nations. Many other Americans have taken that same oath, such as myself, and believe it is our sworn duty still to defend the Constitution, since an oath sworn before God must be fulfilled. (Why else do we swear to tell the truth in our courts, or when taking public office?) Is it a crime these days to actually BELIEVE in God and the oath that was taken?

Meanwhile, others who attempt to destroy the Constitution and our sovereignty are given honors and position...At least they are not hypocrites...only supremely arrogant.

"In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned assault..." in the opinion of Richard N. Gardner, former deputy assistant Secretary of State in "Foreign Affairs," April 1974.

James Warburg, son of CFR founder Paul Warburg, and a member of FDR's "brain trust," testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950, "We shall have world government whether or not you like it--by conquest or consent."

Is this an AMERICAN speaking, or a dangerous lunatic? Who is this "We" who threatens to CONQUER us?

They are a group that actually has the power to do it, and is doing it every day, bit by bit.

CFR Members in the mass media, education, and entertainment push their propaganda of "humanism" and world brotherhood. We should all live in peace under a world government, and forget about such selfish things as nationalities and patriotism. We can solve our own problems. We don't need God, or morals, or values: it's all relative, anyway, right?...Because if we actually had some moral character and values, we might be able to discern that these people are actually EVIL.

The Bible says that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil (1 Tim. 6:10). These people are evil because they love money and power, and greed drives them to do anything to achieve their goals. They have lost all morality and conscience, and believe such concepts, as well as our Constitution, "outdated".

THAT is insanity--to have more wealth than can be spent, and still it is never enough. They have to control governments, start wars, conspire to rule the world; least the "common people" wake up to how they have gained their wealth, take it away from them, and demand that they pay the price for their crimes.

That is why they constantly pit us one against the other, with "Diversity," Affirmative Action, and other programs,...black against white, men against women, rural against urban, ranchers against environmentalists, and on and on...least we look in their direction.

We The People are held to a much higher standard. If we threaten the President or a public official, we are charged with a crime...yet the One-World-Gang can threaten the Constitution and the liberties of We The People, the sovereign rulers of this nation, and nothing is said or done.

Perhaps they do not fear what Man can do to them... they believe they have arranged everything, and their power and wealth will prevail in this world. However, those among them who have sworn an oath before God to uphold and defend the Constitution: the President, members of Congress, and the military; may find one day that they do indeed have something to fear.

List of CFR Members

Colonel House, the fallen angel, still has relatives controlling the CFR. Karen Elliot House is Chairman of the Membership Committee, and a member of the Nominating Committee, along with Jeane Kirkpatrick. David Rockefeller is now "Honorary Chairman of the Board", after serving as Chairman 1970-1985; and "Director Emeritus," after serving as a Director 1949-1985. Peter G. Peterson is Chairman, Admiral B. R. Inman is Vice Chairman, while Thomas Foley and Jeane Kirkpatrick are Directors serving on the Executive Committee.

These "private citizens" have access to government officials and policy makers as often as they wish, yet the results of their meetings can only be given to other government officials, corporate officers, or law partners. Participants are forbidden to transmit an attributed statement to any public medium, such as newspapers or TV, where there is "risk that it will promptly be widely circulated or published," as the "Annual Report" puts it.

Should not OUR public officials be forbidden to meet in secret with private groups? Public officials should only be allowed to discuss public business and policy in a public forum. The Public...remember US?

There is much more to say about this group and their plans for America. Gary Allen, in "The Rockefeller File," states that they are behind the many regional government plans, which would abolish city, county, and state lines, leaving us at the mercy of federal bureaucrats; and behind the push for "land use" controls. They want "federal control of everything. Since they intend to control the federal government..."

There are also the many allegations of involvement in gun running, drug smuggling, prostitution and sex slaves; and the many mysterious assassinations and "suicides" of witnesses and others who get too close to the truth...but that is another story.
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All of that stuff is "conspiracy theory". It will be appropriately dealt with the same as all other threads posted here with similar info. We are not allowed to discuss such things here. Everything is ok and nothing out of sorts. So please, do not bring this stuff up here. Let us put our blinders back on so we can enjoy our lives because everything is good. You need to come up with a more positive thread. Speak good things to us, not bad.


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I want to make clear to you guys that the author employs quotes and history, more than theory.

Again, I claim to have no secret knowlege or special insight to what has been quoted from the public record.

Take my word at nothing and tell me how I'm inaccurate if you find this to be the case.

Final Trumpet brings up an excellent point. I don't direct this at the mods, but why are certain realms of discussion not allowed in what is construed as a free marketplace of ideas? Conspiracy is a word in the English dictionary. None of it's definitions imply that it is necessarily a theory, or that the people who bring you these facts are an in any way unacceptable. So, how have we learnt to react in this fashion?

I stand by my post and repeat that I will only answer objective lines of questioning.






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Conspiracy is a word in the English dictionary. None of it's definitions imply that it is necessarily a theory, or that the people who bring you these facts are an in any way unacceptable.

Great post Gurion. I happen to agree with you 100%.

However, all these things "must come to pass".

God is in control, but it's always good to watch and keep ones eyes open.

Maranatha...


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who can deny this anymore?




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who can deny this anymore?

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Just 2 short years ago, there is no way in the world you could have gotten me to believe this to be true. Now, I know it is. I could write for an hour or more of the things we all know. 2010 is the target date for all the Free Trade Blocks in the world coming fully on line...10 of them (sound familiar) Very similar to the economic map of the world drawn up by the Club of Rome in 1972-3....10 Economic zones encompasing the whole world.

But there's a problem...the USA. Now we learn of the NAU being fully effective by 2010 and the Amero. Why .....now we know....our energy policy is driving us brankrupt, the mortgage loan policy is about to bust with us printing money to beat the band and our currency going bust the world over due to balance of trade defects for 20 years. All this could have been prevented and we know how. The bankrupcy has been pains takenly engineered to happen....about now. We're history as a nation I'm afraid, sold out from within.

Its election time. Is anyone talking about it. Not a word!

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A quote from David Rockefeller:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years...It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." as quoted in address to Trilateral Commission meeting, 1991
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
Check out this video.
America is History.
Sad...




There is so much info out there, but sadly most people want to look the other way. If people don't want to believe well documented evidence, all they have to do is read the many quotes that are documented out there by the very ones who are involved, such as the example I posted earlier on David Rockefeller.

I stay sane only by remembering "God is in control" and knowing all these things have to happen.




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
Check out this video.
America is History.
Sad...

That part comes from an entire film called "Zeitgeist, The Moive". Did a little research on the entire film (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist,_the_Movie) and the first part of the film tries to debunk the fact that Jesus Christ actually walked this earth - but instead was some sort of myth passed down from ancient times.

I won't get into the part where he thinks that 9/11 was engineered to happen on purpose . . . .

While Peter Jospeh may been speaking some truth in regards to globalism and the coming one world government, I must dismiss the video entirely, especially on the grounds of his stance regarding my Saviour.



I stay sane only by remembering "God is in control" and knowing all these things have to happen.

I know people just from seeing them in chat rooms who KNOW all this and think that JEsus was just a man and they are going to be able to stop the NWO...hahaha! If I didnt have JESUS I couldnt get out of bed.I have been in la la land for my whol elife and just learned all thsi last year....it still depresses me greatly and make sme very sad but I am praising God for what he did for us and that HE will say ENOUGH some day soon and come and get me! Thanks you JESUS! THANK YOU! PLEASE HURRY!

I dont knwo why this shoudl be cut...its information that has been around for years and is wel researched.



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There is so much info out there, but sadly most people want to look the other way. If people don't want to believe well documented evidence, all they have to do is read the many quotes that are documented out there by the very ones who are involved, such as the example I posted earlier on David Rockefeller.
LoisFaith2000
Nevada - Scandanavia Quakes
Timothy Snodgrass
Feb 21, 2008

NEVADA - SCANDANAVIAN QUAKES

February 21, 2008

On the morning of February 20, we released a prophetic seismic advisory for the general time-frame surrounding the lunar eclipse (2/20/08 - 2/21/08). Within 24 hours, some very unusual seismic activity began to manifest across the globe. Several hours ago a rare 6.3 quake shook the U.S. state of Nevada, destroying at least one building, and prompting evacuations across NE Nevada. The quake was felt very strongly in Utah, Idaho, Nevada and Southern California. On the other side of the world, the largest quake in Norwegian history jolted the Svalbard Archipelago. The quake was recorded at magnitude at 6.2, which is unprecedented for Scandanavia. Of course, the most notable quake thus far was the 7.5 quake which shook Banda Aceh yesterday. Tens of thousands are still camping in the Sumatran hills, afraid to come down because of personal memories of the December 26, 2004 tsunami disaster. Over the next 24 hours, it would be wise to remain in a state of prayer and alertness, whereas we may have not seen the end of this unusual global seismic activity.

Blessings,
LoisFaith2000
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OK. This creeps me out!
Protesters Break Into U.S. Embassy in Serbia, Start Fire, Over Kosovo Independence
Almost lost 3 Senators!
Government announces kids' database
Stand With Our Military
Lavrov Lashes Out Over Kosovo
Kremlin Troubled By Kosovo Declaration
Google To Store Patients' Health Records
IPB Image Bird flu remains dangerous as it continues to mutate
Ashkenazi warns of war on the horizon
6.3 Earthquake in Nevada!
Navy missile hits spy satellite
US Offers Some Satellite Strike Data To China
Strong earthquake in NORWAY !!
China wants US to share secrets
Al Qaeda's Newest Tactic...
Court-favored Islam … in America
Greece is "rockin"




Jerusalem stateless in int'l Monopoly (the Hasbro board game)

PM's task force aims to transfigure Israeli-Diaspora ties

IPB Image Bibi's Website
http://www.netanyahu.org/

US gives IAEA information on Teheran's attempts to make nuclear weapons

European Parliament resolution urges end to Gaza blockade

Russia offers to host, finance Israel 60 anniversary events in Moscow

Is it likely that Netanyahu(Bibi) will run for PM of Israel and win?

Kremlin's plans for Christian curriculum in schools have Russian Jews worried

Iranian official: Countdown to Israel's destruction has begun

IDF launches wartime television studio

Netanyahu Calls for 'Disproportionate Force'

Israel Faces Certain Death: Iran's Leader Advises
LoisFaith2000
Bibi's Website
http://www.netanyahu.org/

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For those of us who have kept a close eye on Bibi over the years KNOWING that he WILL regain control as Israel's PM in these last days! You can read lots of info about him right here.
Its a very strange thing to me, something I can't explain, nor do I fully understand, but the Lord drew me to Bibi from the time he first was elected in as Israel's Prime Minister. I have prayed for this man ever since! I thought I was alone. Then discovered through the internet that MANY christians feel as I do. This has to be GOD. We just know that we know that we know, that the Lord has BIG plans for Benjamin Netanyahu in these last days. His will be done. Pray for Israel,pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and pray for Bibi.
LoisFaith2000
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It worked and it fell where they said it would fall.

There is news coverage from somewhere in Washington that everbody said was a meteor. Well, no. It was the satellite.


http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/US-shoots-do...a0ddd4115a953ef
LoisFaith2000
22 Feb 08

Turkish troops enter north Iraq
Turkish ground forces have rolled across the border into northern Iraq to target Kurdish rebels said to be sheltering there, Ankara has said.

Objective: Display of national motto in America's cities
In 2001, Jacquie Sullivan, a resident of Bakersfield, heard about a group of people who were upset with the public display of the nation's motto, "In God We Trust." In response, she set to work to get the motto displayed in Bakersfield City Council chambers.

Analyst predicts U.S. could see similar secessionist movement as Kosovo
Defense analyst Greg Copley believes it was a serious error for the U.S. to embrace and recognize the new nation of Kosovo, which declared its independence from Serbia. He argues the country was created by illegal immigrants, in a fashion very similar to those who are colonizing large areas of the American southwest.

Strong quake strikes Nevada's gold country

A strong earthquake in northeastern Nevada badly damaged the historic center of a remote town and injured several people at dawn on Thursday, but nearby mining operations were only briefly disrupted.

Brussels: New court to try Israel for war crimes
Civil court established by human rights organizations to begin operations in Belgium Friday. First issue on the agenda: Israel's alleged war crimes in Lebanon, Gaza

Turkey sends 10,000 troops into northern Iraq
Turkey's military has sent 10,000 troops into northern Iraq in a land offensive against Kurdish PKK guerrillas based there, the private broadcaster NTV said on Friday.

Russia threatens force over Kosovo

Russia has not ruled out using force to resolve the dispute over Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia if NATO forces breach the terms of their U.N. mandate, Moscow's ambassador to NATO warned on Friday.

Secret documents from Holy Inquisition revealed
Secret documents from the archives of the Holy Inquisition today went on public show for the first time in Rome - though not the instruments of torture used to extract confessions from heretics.

Is it likely that Netanyahu(Bibi) will run for PM of Israel and win?

Brussels: New court to try Israel for war crimes

Iran shows more atom work: IAEA

Hamas Warns Of Blasts Unless Israel Lifts Sanctions - AFP

Bibi's Website

Jerusalem stateless in int'l Monopoly (the Hasbro board game)

Turkey Launches Ground Operation in Iraq

PM's task force aims to transfigure Israeli-Diaspora ties

US gives IAEA information on Teheran's attempts to make nuclear weapons

Turkey army launches land offensive into Iraq
By Paul de Bendern
29 minutes ago



ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish ground troops crossed into northern Iraq in their hunt for Kurdish PKK rebels, the military said on Friday, describing the start of a campaign one report said could last 15 days.


The White House said the United States had been informed in advance of Turkey's offensive and called on Ankara to limit the operation to "precise targeting" of the PKK rebels who have been using northern Iraq as a base to stage attacks in Turkey.

Iraq's government urged Turkey to respect its sovereignty and avoid any military action which would threaten security and stability.

"We do not expect these operations will expand because they are against the Iraqi and Turkish desire to have good relations," spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told Reuters in Baghdad.

The European Union repeated its call for Turkey, which is seeking EU membership, to avoid "disproportionate" action.

Turkish television said troops, backed by warplanes and Cobra attack helicopters, had moved 25 km (16 miles) inside Iraq.

Turkish TV said 3,000 to 10,000 soldiers had entered Iraq, but several Iraqi officials and a senior military official with U.S.-led coalition forces in Baghdad tried to play down the operation, saying only a few hundred troops were involved.

"The Turkish Armed Forces, which attach great importance to Iraq's territorial integrity and stability, will return home in the shortest time possible after its goals have been achieved," the General Staff said in a statement posted on its Web site.

The General Staff did not specify the size of the operation, but released photographs of armed troops in white fatigues walking through snowy, mountainous Iraqi terrain.

A senior military source in southeast Turkey told Reuters: "Thousands of troops have crossed the border and thousands more are waiting at the border to join them if necessary."

CNN Turk television, citing unnamed security sources, said the operation would last 15 days.

DISAGREEMENT OVER NUMBERS

Ankara blames the PKK for the deaths of nearly 40,000 people since it began an armed struggle for a Kurdish homeland in southeast Turkey in 1984. Washington and the EU, like Turkey, classify the PKK as a terrorist organization.

Turkey appeared to be seeking to deal the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) a crushing blow before weather conditions improve, which would allow rebels to cross back into Turkish territory.

A PKK spokesman said rebels had clashed with the troops.

"There are severe clashes. Two Turkish soldiers have been killed and eight wounded. There are no PKK casualties," Ahmed Danees, head of foreign relations for the PKK, told Reuters by satellite phone from an undisclosed location in northern Iraq.

It was not possible to independently verify his statement.

Iraq's foreign minister played down the operation.

"There has not been any major incursion or land invasion. ... What is going on is around a few hundred Turkish forces have crossed the border looking for the PKK or their bases," Hoshiyar Zebari told Reuters by telephone.

A senior military officer with U.S.-led coalition forces based in Baghdad made a similar estimate of the number of troops involved. "A few hundred, at most," the source said.

Turkish financial markets weakened slightly on news of the operation.

NATO member Turkey says it has the right under international law to hit PKK rebels who shelter in northern Iraq and have mounted attacks inside Turkey that have killed scores of troops. Turkey says some 3,000 PKK rebels are based in Iraq.

"I sincerely believe that this operation will contribute to Iraq's stability and peace in the region," Turkish President Abdullah Gul said in a statement.

The EU and the United States have in the past raised concerns that a major offensive could destabilize the region, though they have not criticized recent small cross-border raids.

"We understand the concerns of Turkey ... but we think this action is not the best response," EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana told a news conference in Slovenia.

The central Baghdad government, which has little sway over mainly Kurdish northern Iraq, has repeatedly called for a diplomatic solution.

"We urged them (Turkey) to work directly also with the Iraqis, including Kurdish government officials, in determining how best to address the threat of the PKK," White House spokesman Scott Stanzel told reporters.

"I understand that Turkish authorities had notified Iraqi authorities simultaneously (about the operation)," he said.

Turkey launched several major land offensives in the 1990s into northern Iraq against the separatist movement.

"Militarily, even 50,000 troops in the 1990s were not able to destroy the PKK, but psychologically this operation could be quite effective. It has taken the PKK by surprise," said Gareth Jenkins, an Istanbul-based expert on Turkish security issues.
LoisFaith2000
Nevada EQ


Over 700 structures damaged.

It's really weird that the media isn't covering the story.

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Earth_Changes/...s.NV.homes.html

better yet: pics
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Earth_Chan...s.NV.homes.html

Recent Earthquakes in California & Nevada
http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/enviro...hp?q=1203471382
LoisFaith2000


Bird flu remains dangerous as it continues to mutate


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Bird flu remains dangerous as it continues to mutate

By Robert S. Boyd, McClatchy Newspapers Wed Feb 20, 2:22 PM ET

WASHINGTON — Like the rumble of distant thunder, bird flu continues to spread across Asia , Africa and Europe . Although it's been out of the news lately in the United States , scientists say that avian influenza, as it's also known, remains a serious threat to human and animal health.

The lethal H5N1 version of the virus is mutating rapidly and rampaging through bird flocks throughout those parts of the world, infecting and often killing people who come in contact with them.

The fear is that the virus will change into a form that makes human-to-human transmission quick and easy. At least seven slightly different subtypes already have been identified.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080220...CRMsAbxTAqs0NUE



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Has that ever happened before where an animal (bird) virus changed to a human one ?
I know they gave examples in the article of supposed human to human passing of it - but it seems just as likely that the family members handled the same bird since they are in the same household...

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Has that ever happened before where an animal (bird) virus changed to a human one ?
I know they gave examples in the article of supposed human to human passing of it - but it seems just as likely that the family members handled the same bird since they are in the same household...

Animal viruses mutate into human viruses all the time. Ebola, AIDS, there are tons of them.
They've proved that some of the cases were human to human.
Welcome to RR!

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It is just a matter of time before it goes human to human

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7252923.stm
I stumbled on this this morning:
A detailed map highlighting the world's hotspots for emerging infectious diseases (EIDs) has been released.

It uses data spanning 65 years and shows the majority of these new diseases come from wildlife.

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This is strange since I got a call last night from my friend and she told me her sister who is a nurse at a large hospital in Tucson told her that they had just recieved a shipment of cots, 2500 cots, And were told they should have 10 weeks of supplies ready in case of a pandimic of bird flu or anything else, it seems either they are expecting something or maybe they are just smart and want to have things ready IN CASE,I told my friend probably just wanting to make double sure things are in order, When my Mom was hospitalized a short time ago and I was there they had a fake drill then. They gave me a booklet before I left on what to do etc. So they are at least getting ready for it
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OK. This creeps me out!
Protesters Break Into U.S. Embassy in Serbia, Start Fire, Over Kosovo Independence
Almost lost 3 Senators!
Government announces kids' database
Stand With Our Military
Lavrov Lashes Out Over Kosovo
Kremlin Troubled By Kosovo Declaration
Google To Store Patients' Health Records
IPB Image Bird flu remains dangerous as it continues to mutate
Ashkenazi warns of war on the horizon
6.3 Earthquake in Nevada!
Navy missile hits spy satellite
US Offers Some Satellite Strike Data To China
Strong earthquake in NORWAY !!
China wants US to share secrets
Al Qaeda's Newest Tactic...
Court-favored Islam … in America
Greece is "rockin"




Jerusalem stateless in int'l Monopoly (the Hasbro board game)

PM's task force aims to transfigure Israeli-Diaspora ties

IPB Image Bibi's Website
http://www.netanyahu.org/

US gives IAEA information on Teheran's attempts to make nuclear weapons

European Parliament resolution urges end to Gaza blockade

Russia offers to host, finance Israel 60 anniversary events in Moscow

Is it likely that Netanyahu(Bibi) will run for PM of Israel and win?

Kremlin's plans for Christian curriculum in schools have Russian Jews worried

Iranian official: Countdown to Israel's destruction has begun

IDF launches wartime television studio

Netanyahu Calls for 'Disproportionate Force'

Israel Faces Certain Death: Iran's Leader Advises


IPB Image
LoisFaith2000
Re: THE DRUMS OF WAR BEAT LOUDER...2/20 on: Today at 10:41:05am
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/957096.html


TURKEY INTO IRAQ
2/22 on: Today at 10:37:26am
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSANK00037420080222
LoisFaith2000

Hamas Warns Of Blasts Unless Israel Lifts Sanctions
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GAZA CITY (AFP)--A senior advisor to the Hamas-run administration in Gaza on Wednesday warned of "explosions" unless the international community helps to lift the Israeli sanctions on the Palestinian territory.

"If the international community does not move in a serious way to end the siege and the attempt to topple Hamas, then the next explosions, God only knows how large, will take everyone by surprise," Ahmed Yussef said in a statement.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStor...nternational.na

You are precisely right, there buddy, but the god you are talking about is not the God I am talking about! tee hee hee





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You know they sure are brandishing a much hotter rhetoric lately. It makes you wonder if they are just barking louder than usual or if this time--backed by some other entities--they are capable of delivering the real bite.
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They are certainly all singing in the same quartet aren't they!
End-Time Calling
A large bomb? Is there any info out there that says if they have atoms or not? Kinda makes you wonder huh?
LoisFaith2000
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Nasrallah in a previous appearance on Al Manar.
Photo: Channel 1 [file]
"If Israel's attacks Lebanon again, we will wage war without any preconditions," Nasrallah said during a speech in Beirut in honor of Hizbullah arch-terrorist Imad Mughniyeh, who was assassinated last week in Damascus.

"The disappearance of Israel is an inevitable fact. It is an historical process in the region which will come to an end in several years," he said.

According to Nasrallah, Hizbullah will not stand quiet following Mughniyeh's assassination.

"There is no possibility that we will not respond to the murder of our loved and dear ones. We will not allow the enemy to continue and murder our commanders and dear ones."

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I wonder if Ahmadejad will get angry when he finds out Nasrallah stole his line?
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I just read the Galilee is mostly Muslim and they are losing that territory as well. Multiplication of Muslims is a hundred times that of Jews.
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I've noticed that too. I wonder why
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GAZA CITY (AFP)--A senior advisor to the Hamas-run administration in Gaza on Wednesday warned of "explosions" unless the international community helps to lift the Israeli sanctions on the Palestinian territory.

"If the international community does not move in a serious way to end the siege and the attempt to topple Hamas, then the next explosions, God only knows how large, will take everyone by surprise," Ahmed Yussef said in a statement.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStor...nternational.na

You are precisely right, there buddy, but the god you are talking about is not the God I am talking about! tee hee hee





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You know they sure are brandishing a much hotter rhetoric lately. It makes you wonder if they are just barking louder than usual or if this time--backed by some other entities--they are capable of delivering the real bite.
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I wonder if all the terrorist groups have kinda binded together....at least the Iranian backed groups....and have decided who is going to attack first. Or even attack at the same time. A lot of verbiage is being said at the same time all around Israel.



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They are certainly all singing in the same quartet aren't they!


If there is a central point in which all of the tribal leaders of Hamas get together and communicate with the leaders of Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, and Russia or if they have been somehow sending messages to them watch out. The last time somebody gave a warning of explosions was sometime before the wall between Gaz